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On March 28 2016 17:14 ritoky wrote:
i will be the first one to tell you rsoul that my execution of that plan was bad. the plan is good, execution bad. said it a bunch of times and have since moved on cuz if i bring it up people take that opportunity to call me an idiot and being called bad/trash/dumb gets old so i will just keep my disagreements on the matter to myself going forward.
i posted the picture -> people aren't grasping what i am doing because they scroll past the picture w/o thinking -> i make a post indicating the picture is a play -> that post was dumb and i shoulda just stayed quiet to let it develop -> the play then becomes a clusterfuck. basically it fucked up because i, as a player, am bad at staying quiet and on the sidelines when i am available to post. if that explanation doesn't reach you, that's on you cuz it is the truth.
outside of that, which i guess i can understand how my filter can be read as me utilizing my play to confirm myself rather than build something (altho i do tend to try and find ridiculous ways to confirm myself as town); no i don't understand how i can be read mafia. i have deep reads, not as much as i would like but that's due to the holiday primarily, have spent a lot of time attempting to drive the game forward or develop my reads (i mean a lot of this is at your expense so i guess you wouldn't view it as useful)....and i think some of what i have done and said i can't do as mafia....so yeah i think i am pretty blatantly town outside of the fact that i was spamming the word expedition and claiming VT and then a VT flipped as an expedition member.
lol >< yeah
well let's just talk about these deep reads then, cause yeah, you're right...from my perspective your main "deep" read is wrong and directly in response to my voting you, which you yourself admit right here isn't unfounded, so you'll have to forgive my skepticism
(also, i did catch some of this explanation before i got bored with the back and forth...it's not completely unbelievable but the rest of your play didn't help)
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On March 28 2016 17:15 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 16:40 rsoultin wrote:
tch, over-confident arrogant sl = town
not reading my posts = scum
maybe he's a woolly unicorn from the ice age
woolly unicorns sound fun ^^ maybe i should get one im reading your posts... your posts are acualy readable which is not your town trait
lol i know you're not dude ^^ or at least you're not comprehending them
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On March 28 2016 17:19 ritoky wrote:
rsoul is the only person who claimed reactively or due to provocation right?
every1 else has claimed pro-actively; SL and kuru not in conjunction with a flip...that correct?
also kuru was your shot refunded after shooting koshi? that could be telling if you shot into prot or a rb because aren't rb bullets refunded generally and prot bullets not?
sl and kuru pro-actively, sandro in conjunction with the stutters flip, and ye i claimed on request/demand whatever you want to call it
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On March 28 2016 17:21 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 17:19 rsoultin wrote:On March 28 2016 17:15 sicklucker wrote:On March 28 2016 16:40 rsoultin wrote:
tch, over-confident arrogant sl = town
not reading my posts = scum
maybe he's a woolly unicorn from the ice age
woolly unicorns sound fun ^^ maybe i should get one im reading your posts... your posts are acualy readable which is not your town trait lol i know you're not dude ^^ or at least you're not comprehending them example?
first part of my filter
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On March 28 2016 17:22 sicklucker wrote:
you were trying to push the agenda (your posts to dandred) that im scum even tho I claim to have stoped a kp and 2 or 3 kp are missing.
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lol see this is where you don't comprehend things
it was damdred's reaction to you i was questioning...and i'm still not really solid on it but it's not worthwhile to go into it more
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On March 28 2016 17:23 sicklucker wrote:
no your line was "youll be sorry if you lynch me" then you claim a useless role this was already after stutters flip I believe
lol you're a real dumbass sometimes. do i have to quote it? i literally breadcrumbed my first post and openly searched for stutters in-thread...like you can argue anything you want, but by definition i had to know there was an engineer in the game
i said no one would ever lynch me cause if i had to claim the other engineer would back me up -shrugs- i expected to be back in the thread. obviously that never happened
my role is potentially useless now though you're right, so i didn't mind claiming it...also kinda knew what sorta reaction i'd get but that can't be helped
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On March 28 2016 17:24 sicklucker wrote:
If your a role you didnt even care that you were close to getting lynched. Hell you didnt even vote to save yourself altho you were probably lurking
ye this doesn't make an ounce of sense with tube flipped, you know that, right?
i obv wasn't here
in fact, the entire tube wagon formed after i left @.@
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On March 28 2016 17:26 sicklucker wrote:
Dandred is coming to the easy logical conclusions and you were trying to make that invalid. Saying I did not stop kp is super anti town thing to do untill two people claimed they did us well
i'm trying to get a read on damdy. you can believe that or not but i'm not talking about this any further with you
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On March 28 2016 17:28 sicklucker wrote:
Like if people think im mafia outside of my claim thats fine. But its acualy so fucking stupid that you and vivax are pushing worlds where im scummy because my claim is scummy WHEN THERE IS TWO MISSING MAFIA KP
i'm not ^^
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On March 28 2016 17:29 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 17:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 28 2016 17:24 sicklucker wrote:
If your a role you didnt even care that you were close to getting lynched. Hell you didnt even vote to save yourself altho you were probably lurking ye this doesn't make an ounce of sense with tube flipped, you know that, right? i obv wasn't here in fact, the entire tube wagon formed after i left @.@ yes thats my point. YOu were confident as the leasing wagon or didnt care. This suggests to me you knew your team was going to save you and certainly were not a power role or you would have been around to claim
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dude, as either alignment i'd care that's why this argument is retarded
and obviously me trying to get everyone to talk about their other reads was because i intended to claim if i had to, like do you really think i cared so little as mafia that i would risk getting lynched over a town counterwagon? you're being ridiculous
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On March 28 2016 17:30 ritoky wrote:
like you gotta try to understand this from my perspective if you're town rsoul. regardless of how valid you think my reasons are (let's say they're shit hypothetically), i think you have done things that are scum indicative. you then proceed to basically threaten a claim 2 or 3 times withing 6 hours of the lynch. you are tied or leading in votes and have to leave prior to the deadline. you elect not to claim after having threatened it. you survive the lynch, don't get shot (as far as i know), and then relatively close to the start of the next phase in a closed setup you claim the same role as the only blue that has flipped after being cased.
that is what i am seeing as VT and that sequence of events doesn't look particularly town/blue....i don't understand why you don't claim to ensure you make it through the phase if you have to leave and can't be certain you'll survive...especially knowing your role is linked to another person you can also potentially get hints as to who your partner is....and then the reactive claim after pressure + convenience of same role as has flipped. this is what i am seeing, so explain to me how this is town motivated.
look...i left the thread thinking i'd return in an hour or two and then something came up and i had to leave town suddenly
you can believe it or not. i'm not going to say it again. obv i'd rather not claim if i don't have to and there were like 5 hours or something left
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On March 28 2016 17:33 sicklucker wrote:
also rstoulin you townread koshi right? that means you believe he was medic saved. So we have tow missing kp and one medic thats powers already accounted for.
that means we have two other protective roles that stoped mafia kp. WHY THE HELL WOULDNT YOU THINK IM ONE OF THEM? in this world 3 protective roles saved towns
how can I be mafia IF i stoped mafia
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stop being a retard and arguing against something i never even said
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On March 28 2016 17:36 sicklucker wrote:
Rsoultin could stutters have verified your role existed and therefor confirming your town? if you claimed before he died
yup, assuming he got the same verbage i did
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On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!
ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol ><
prelim thoughts
- foil and ls = town <- dude, breaking meta? xP
- damdred <-> personality...i sees parallels! (pick me, pick me! unless you're a nasty personality :/ are you a nasty?)
- slam poss policy lynch viz a viz aperture or whatever the fuck that game was...no tricky this time @.@ guess we'll see at the 12hr tick...but if this is end the day early again dropkick time!
- rit...bleh me no likey, though tbh you suck at reading ls anyway so maybe that doesn't mean anything
- kuru holy wot batman o.0 that normal for this dude? don't think i've played with him before
- gum...seen posts like that from him before but i forget alignment...gut says nai
hnnnn
ye i can't remember anything else catching my eye...at least slam might be interesting when i wake up! \o/
On March 24 2016 12:52 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 12:51 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2016 12:26 Vivax wrote:
Striking a bridge is a german idiom which means making connections to. Just realized it doesn't exist in english.
I'll reply to stuff when I think I got most of the game covered, until then I prefer to play this in obs qt mode, it kinda makes my reads more accurate. That's an incredibly German-like expression; BUILD BUILD BUILD ENGINEERING PEOPLES :D are you my buddy? 
On March 24 2016 12:55 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 12:52 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!
ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol ><
prelim thoughts
- foil and ls = town <- dude, breaking meta? xP
- damdred <-> personality...i sees parallels! (pick me, pick me! unless you're a nasty personality :/ are you a nasty?)
- slam poss policy lynch viz a viz aperture or whatever the fuck that game was...no tricky this time @.@ guess we'll see at the 12hr tick...but if this is end the day early again dropkick time!
- rit...bleh me no likey, though tbh you suck at reading ls anyway so maybe that doesn't mean anything
- kuru holy wot batman o.0 that normal for this dude? don't think i've played with him before
- gum...seen posts like that from him before but i forget alignment...gut says nai
hnnnn
ye i can't remember anything else catching my eye...at least slam might be interesting when i wake up! \o/ Should have waited for this Would have shot this Clearly not reading. Too late though nvm, def not my buddy :/
^ why anyone thinking my claim was "opportunistic" is retarded ^^ though it at least shows me who actually cared enough to check my filter and see if it was believable or not...one of the reasons i'm feeling better about super now
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On March 28 2016 17:40 sicklucker wrote:
So you could have been an inno child(confirmed town) day 1 if you claimed lol. ya your mafia
If what your saying about your role is true.( its not thats op)
If both of you knew the existance of the other in the game you could both claim and we would have two confirmed towns.
Thats not balanced at all
-squints at- dude just cause you'd play it differently doesn't mean i would, and certainly doesn't make me mafia. i'd rather get a chance to use whatever it was then claim later when it's more useful, if that's an option
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On March 28 2016 17:43 sicklucker wrote:
and you didnt even seem mad at all that stutters died...
like at all...
eh, it was actually kinda funny >> if i had claimed he wouldn't have been around to back me up and y'all prolly woulda insta-lynched me
hey, sl...is there a point to talking to you?
cause if you're gonna call everything i do scum, you're certainly not gonna convince me that i got a different role pm, and i doubt this will convince anyone else, either
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On March 28 2016 17:47 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 17:43 ritoky wrote:
from the way her role reads i think the balance is in, they don't know eachother, there is no confirmation of same alignment 1 could be making items for the other and the other is red, and that 1 makes the other uses, so if 1 dies the other becomes useless-ish? if rstolin is about to be lynch all she has to do is go. ok guys you fucked up im town and I can confirm it.( she says her role) can my partner plz confirm my existance in the game. Both are confirmed town or aligned which is something none town would never want to do this early ever. So that saves town a mislynch and they still have a power with mass medic wifmo. Ya not balanced
-shrugs- by your definition this makes masons unbalanced as well
i personally don't buy the kuru claim and i'm not convinced that even if you were vet you were actually shot. two protective roles doesn't sound crazy in this game, especially if they're limited
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On March 28 2016 17:50 ritoky wrote:
the other problem with that is i don't have another lynch i feel extremely passionately about....
maybe rels/LS cuz i made that yolo they together read....also when i glanced at rels filter he responded negatively to LS a few times, but then didn't include him in his read list at all...which i found extremely odd.
this is exactly my problem with you btw -_- (also makes it funny that you're accusing me of being tunneled/single-faceted whatever lol ><)
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On March 28 2016 17:51 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 17:49 rsoultin wrote:On March 28 2016 17:47 sicklucker wrote:On March 28 2016 17:43 ritoky wrote:
from the way her role reads i think the balance is in, they don't know eachother, there is no confirmation of same alignment 1 could be making items for the other and the other is red, and that 1 makes the other uses, so if 1 dies the other becomes useless-ish? if rstolin is about to be lynch all she has to do is go. ok guys you fucked up im town and I can confirm it.( she says her role) can my partner plz confirm my existance in the game. Both are confirmed town or aligned which is something none town would never want to do this early ever. So that saves town a mislynch and they still have a power with mass medic wifmo. Ya not balanced -shrugs- by your definition this makes masons unbalanced as well i personally don't buy the kuru claim and i'm not convinced that even if you were vet you were actually shot. two protective roles doesn't sound crazy in this game, especially if they're limited Masons can talk to each toher but no one considers that a power... Masons power is being inno child not being able to talk to each other everyone knows this. BUt your inno child and have a power
this is a really pointless discussion, you know that? how the fuck do i know why/how this game was balanced any more than the next person? seems to me though that engineers not knowing each other and the potential for an item having so many things that could go wrong on top of the 50% effectiveness thing doesn't make it stronger than masons at all
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On March 28 2016 17:55 sicklucker wrote:
Like this is not your town game I shouldnt be bailing you out with giving you something easy mechanic related to talk about. This is not the rstoulin that spams me into submission and has no care for the game
ye, you're right, not here = not spamming good job genius -shoos-
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