TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3 - Page 5

On March 24 2016 23:50 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't have strong scumreads yet. There are a few people (ritoky and slam) who did blatantly antitown things which should mean they are mafia but sadly I can't rule the possibility of bad townplay out entirely.
Still slam needs to justify his shot.

You for example seem engaged and proactive which is usually a good sign but I have a problem with a some of your posts.

On March 24 2016 23:54 Rels wrote:

This seems like you opportunisticly posted that after JAT attacked this read.

On March 24 2016 23:55 Shapelog wrote:

idk, why are you so defensive all a suddenly when you have stated that you are usually misread day 1?

On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:

This one:

The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true.

Also this one:

I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this.

On March 24 2016 23:55 Superbia wrote:
... Why are you defending me LS? x:

On March 25 2016 02:26 Koshi wrote:
Rels is mafia, the shut the fuck up is completely out of place and I saw him do that in Star Wars mafia. Wrongly called him town for that behaviour.

Kurumi his post is indeed good.

Both players get swapped in the list.

On March 25 2016 03:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Trying to catch up from my phone, but you're making a new post for every two I read.
I think one of Kurumi and LS is scum, because they were the gumshoe wagon starters (I don't feel comfortable scumreading either of the other two) and he was the target for a mislynch.
Also, all of you scumreading Slam for that shot are idiots. He was wrong, but he's obvious town because of it.

On March 25 2016 02:33 Koshi wrote:

Ohyeah. It was the game with the 2 scumteams

On March 25 2016 04:17 justanothertownie wrote:

Nope, sorry.

On March 25 2016 04:19 Shapelog wrote:

Sure LS! Give me a min.

On March 25 2016 04:16 Koshi wrote:
No I just said that

On March 25 2016 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:

Because 1) I will start traveling to my parents in about 15 minutes/will be on my phone only and 2) I don't feel like it. The things I wanted to say are all in the thread. That's where I am at so far. If I think someone should be lynched I will push that person and you will therefore know it.

On March 25 2016 04:32 ritoky wrote:
rsoul is mafia.

On March 25 2016 04:55 Shapelog wrote:

It is early in the game, so nothing really is solid solid other than a few people. Moved some people up and down on this list.

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Slam -> I believe his claim. Also a day 1 shot only vig for scum kinda seems dumb. Even if he is lying about the day 1 thing, day vig for scum is weird. Plus i like bread.
Rik -> most likely town, i felt that the plan wasn't great and the hunting a bit weird. But I still find him townie.

SL -> Town lean because he feels more like SL from Devil than from Cell. TBH i haven't really dive him so it really is pure meta. I get around to it one of these days.
Vivax -> Town lean

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Some Nulls/unsure:
Super: Kinda move down because i need to read his filter passed the gum lynch points. I remember something about weird reads from him. I still like the points i made b4 about him quite possible being town. Just a dive would make me feel more confident.
Kumuni, i kinda want to put him the town section, because i find good things in him. But i like to wait for him to come back and post some more. Honorable town lean i guess? Nah Town lean, i feel like even with some lingering sus. on him i can give him a town lean. No, Making up my mind that i do want him to post more and flesh out other reads.
Koshi: I just don't feel sure on him. idk why tbh. Techically, everything he has done so far makes me want to town read him. But i don't. His Slam thing is a bit weird. But for sure, wouldn't lynch today.
LS:I do not think LS is scum, but i really cannot remember much of him. I know about the scum read -> town lean on gum but i forgot what he has done.

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Sus. people IMO

Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free.
She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic.
Tumble: Mostly because he was here and just defended himself instead of doing anything. Currectly still waiting for answers about the 2 hour gap and stuff. He seems a bit fluster too. Thought, he is prob. the weakest one here.

Doubt these 2 are scum together tbh.

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Sub division, people who i do not mind lynching.
VA: Posted something after the last post about the house of chuz. idk, he is pretty mellow. None of his posts have made me go "this guy is town"

OWS: Understand this guy might actually be busy, but posted 3 posts of value. 1 scum reading Rik for blue hunting (fair because i did so early on too) 1 town reading SL, and one supporting a Plynch. Prob. should move him into the sub division but i kinda expect more from him. Except from the Plynch though, he did come to the same conclusion i did about SL and Rik early on. Fuck it i move this guy to the sub division till he actually posts more.

Mr.Stutter: Here because i want him to post things to get a read on him.

Rels: I suck at reading Rels, All i ever want to do is scum read the living jesus out of him. half his filter was talk about slam, but when sl talked about slam, gloves were off. Like to flesh this read out and prob. dive a bit

Anyone who does not post and steal from the post jar.

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People i am currently investigating

Tubesock: was diving filter when you called. Ranked Rels and JAT higher than Vivax. Kinda odd to me since Rels really has done nothing IMO to be higher up on the town list than Vivax. No offense to Rels (or JAT for that matter) but Vivax is tryharding and actually trying to solve this game. idk, maybe i am just being bias because i think vivax is town.

JAT: Haven't dive him at all. Interacts i saw in thread were semi-aggressive, but i remember him being a aggressive person from outlaw QT.

Damdred haven't dive yet. interactions with him feel promising though.

On March 25 2016 04:56 ritoky wrote:
firstly LS, you need to stop taking and start giving if you ever want to even consider getting a town read from me.

it's pretty simple about rsoul though:

1) i find her game so far lacks real depth and any teeth. she has pretty much 2 reads: a) ritoky is mafia cuz he typed b) LS is town cuz he typed; the amount of players she is not evaluating or attempting to evaluate is too large. she isn't caring to look at 75% of the game and consider their alignments or push to learn anything about their alignments, her scope is too narrow.

2) she is not listening to her own read on me, which is to flip her read.

3) forcing a narrative instead of looking at a whole. primary example being that her primary scum read posted a giant post of reads which from what small indications i see in her filter, she actually agrees with quite a few of; but rather than elect to comment and evaluate the entirety of information before her, she pushes the same tired and false narrative.

4) reading LS town for old reasons. a player says "i am going to try to mess with my standard of play" and you meta read him town; i can't even. but beyond that LS has done nothing to warrant a TR from anyone. almost all he has done is ask continuation questions that aren't particularly pointed and take information without giving opinions of his own. she shouldn't ever be making that read based on his play thus far and shouldn't be making a meta read based on LS's pregame comments; so i think the read is a pile, which means both her reads are piles.

On March 25 2016 05:09 ritoky wrote:


okay? what does that have to do with my read at all?

On March 25 2016 05:18 ritoky wrote:
you see this is my problem with you right here and why there's a decent chance you're mafia. you're asking continuation questions but then not making definitive conclusions and you're sitting here trying to take as much information as possible without giving any. townies are givers at heart because it is all we got.

"explain pls" -> "irrelevant comment" -> "well it's okay, let me wait and get back to you later"; you concluded nothing about my or rsouls alignment from that question. this is not an isolated incident either, this is much of your filter. why ask the question if you're going nowhere with it? and shape makes a giant read post and your only thought is "explain SL" who he says pretty much "i can't properly explain this, it is meta"....that's all you cared about from that and you made no determinations about his alignment from it? really?

On March 25 2016 05:12 Shapelog wrote:

Mostly that read comes from him being more like devil than Cell. SaltShaker in cell seemed to achieve (getting Damdred to be mayor etc.) something than here
Idk, it not really one thing that sticks out, its more his generaliness fits what i know of him as town. Like i said i didn't dive him, but he feels townie.

Now, this is the part where you question me on why i am using a meta read.