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Race Bannon
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On April 05 2016 09:19 Kuragari42 wrote: I read in a shaky voice?? You think I'm some weak coward or something?!? "Kuragari42 looked at the note and begin reading it off in a voice full of confidence." There. Guess the rumors were true, just look at all the wine in front of me. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On April 06 2016 14:44 Tumblewood wrote: @Race Bannon: Do you still stand by your TRs on GB and boxer? If so, why do you think a confident opening is townie? I do and I didn't mean just the first post. Boxer in his follow up and response to questioning blatantly calls the play useless, hence doesn't shy away from anymosity nor does he overelaborate in light of the scarce evidence at that early stage, the way I imagine self-conscious scum would compensate for insecurity. GlowingBear reminds me of Koshi with whom I have a dayphase of history, and he was town. Spicy exhibits the same sort of reticence he did in the last game as town while Damdred doesn't strike me any different, so that's a town and scumread respectively. By the way we should prepare and organize suspicions and arguments into persistent snowball cases the way some sites handle sign-ups; by copy-pasting the acumulated data and adding their input on top, for easier reviewing later. If we do this a mislynch following the chaos of a fake claim like the one I was subjected to last game seems less likely to happen in my second game here as well. The last minute hysteria which seems a recurring phenomenon is silly and bad for town. | ||
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On April 06 2016 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: GB because I thought he was going with my opening of starting up the game by pretending to be suspicious of me, but then doing nothing with it. Spikasaur because of the wishywashiness that CHodge already pointed out. Putting my vote on GB for now. As I said pregame I intend to spend less time on the game because I tend to get carried away. Will be back from one hour before deadline till deadline. ##Vote GlowingBear I don't like you excusing yourself from activity and expecting to make up for it 1 hour before deadline and your reason to vote is bogus. Please do more if you are town. | ||
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On April 06 2016 22:30 LightningStrike wrote: If he was scum I would think he would been more nervous about his posts knowing he is one of the newbies they feel natural so far for me. I meant the townvibe coming off of CHodge is obvious but he happens to be voting a townie, so I expect scum to encourage people to sheep him. ##LightingStrike | ||
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Race Bannon
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On April 06 2016 23:12 Damdred wrote: Obviously you will say because I know my own alignment. What I mean is why should you be town read. And why is ch just a brownie gone bad instead of mafia playing great? I know my alignment. Who are your scumspects? | ||
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On April 06 2016 23:44 Damdred wrote: Please don't do that, you dodged half of the statement. Yes because I didn't say he was town as opposed to clever scum. And yes he probably could be scum faking to be engaging in the game more than the majority. All I said was he was giving off townvibes and I figured LS might be capitalizing on it to get me lynched because the post was weird. | ||
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On April 07 2016 01:20 Gossemerr wrote: I'm getting a scummy vibe from Race Bannon. My reasoning: 1. Early posts are fluff, no real added value. 2. This post: He says CHodge is voting a townie (Himself), but CHodge made a clear post about why he was voting him - which is a town characteristic. Doesn't really offer a counter argument - instead responds by dodging the question. He then votes LS seemingly out of nowhere - I guess because his townie read on CHodge. 3. Then he does try to explain, which lacks confidence IMO. And on top of that he goes against his own advice of sheeping as a mafia trait and explains his LS vote as a good lynch based on others and not his own opinions. So I think RB is a possible mafia which is best read I have thus far. ##Vote: Race Bannon You fucking lack reading comprehension. On April 07 2016 00:35 Damdred wrote: Why is it that if others express issues with someone make them a good lynch? If I agreed with a couple other players that you were the lynch would that make you a good lynch Relative to a compromise derp lynch on me, yes. | ||
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On April 07 2016 02:35 Kuragari42 wrote: @Race Bannon Are you a smurf? Or have you played on other forums? I'm new | ||
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On April 07 2016 08:19 DoYouHas wrote: He doesn't have to, essentially modconfirmed ftw. Sry I tried to lynch you Fid. I don't get it why do you think he's town for saying he's town? | ||
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Race Bannon
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He's hardly modconfirmed conftown. | ||
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On April 07 2016 08:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: With the people that ended up on the boxerfred lynch I'm not very surprised he flipped town. Race Bannon, please answer this post when you get back: . Determinism? What's your point? | ||
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On April 08 2016 03:18 Fidei86 wrote: Fourth date this evening. I'll let y'all know how it goes. Don't let your dreams be dreams. | ||
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I'll give him the benefit of the doubt regarding the thing for now. | ||
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On April 08 2016 05:06 LightningStrike wrote: So Just Do It! But seriously though RB what you think of James(fideii) WoT? I will do a double check before posting to prevent mistakes. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On April 08 2016 05:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Point is: -You believe that mafia is more likely than town to underpin his towniness, calling out the guy you quoted as being scummy (presumably) -You proceed to do the exact same thing Basically, you called yourself scummy. Explain. Gosse looks pretty good with that post. Would town. Reasoning for switching mentioned above. Still want to lynch GB and RB. I've changed my mind. I believe LS was encouraging people to sheep him not because he thoughtt CH was town and worthy of being paraded as such with bulletpoints, but because he knew he was town voting a townie and encouraging him and others to mislynch me. Can you dig it, paragon? I never said sheeping was scummy or that in general scum tend to point out townieness, somehow getting caught in my own web in the process, that's just dumb. On April 08 2016 12:45 LightningStrike wrote: Because I broke that meta in Cell Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. Not a fan of your content thus far either. ##Vote: LS | ||
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On April 08 2016 19:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Wait, you say you've changed your mind suggesting that you did actually think that pointing out his towniness was something scum would be more likely to do, yet afterwards you say that LS' motivation for it was scummy. Did you ever believe pointing out CHodge being town is scummy in itself or did it require context? Do you have any scumreads beyond LS? No, why aren't you scumreading LS? : | ||
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QUOTE]On April 08 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also what do you think of GB?[/QUOTE] He's just not that invested in the game is why people are giving him a bad review I think. | ||
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On April 08 2016 19:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He's just meh to me, nothing really jumps out. I don't really have anything solid and I think GB and you look worse. Why? | ||
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On April 08 2016 19:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So basically you think he's not invested, but people are being too hard on him? He just gave a bunch of reads too. What did you think of them? Where do you stand on myself, for example? I think you have the potential to find scum if you're town, you're just barking at the wrong tree, maybe you're even jealous or something that I have a good reason to vote someone and you're just flailing, I don't know you. | ||
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On April 08 2016 19:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Your reason for scumreading LS is bad and you didn't explain at all why you don't believe GB is scum. Your presumption that I would get jealous about your reasoning is ridiculous. If I thought you had a good case I would sheep it. Same | ||
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On April 08 2016 19:12 Race Bannon wrote: I've changed my mind. I believe LS was encouraging people to sheep him not because he thoughtt CH was town and worthy of being paraded as such with bulletpoints, but because he knew he was town voting a townie and encouraging him and others to mislynch me. Can you dig it, paragon? I never said sheeping was scummy or that in general scum tend to point out townieness, somehow getting caught in my own web in the process, that's just dumb. Not a fan of your content thus far either. ##Vote: LS I thought CHodge was town but I didn't tell people to sheep me on that read -_- I guess you need to reread my filter on that part.[/QUOTE] Let's look at it again then On April 06 2016 22:13 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and I think CHodge is Town for a few reasons. 1. His approach to the game is quite different than a normal newbie regarding Vet players like myself and Artanis. 2. He been more thinking critically than me and everyone else up to this point. Not in those words but this is a clear declaration of readyness to outsource scumhunting because he was oh so critical in his thinking, so much better than everyone else. You didn't say sheep him or die, but you would've if you weren't so afraid to get your hands dirty and vote for ke yourself. | ||
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On April 09 2016 02:33 Tumblewood wrote: Goss, GB is one of your scumreads, right? So why are you "ok" with him getting lynched and not pushing him? Nitpicking semantics are we? | ||
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Race Bannon
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On April 09 2016 08:07 LightningStrike wrote: At some point real arguments outweigh meta ones. Unless someone can vouch for your scumgame being free of mischievous and clandestine manipulation I don't see how my argument would be shattered; are you saying you're utterly incapable of it? What's more you said you were switching to a content-oriented town meta, content the existence of which there is none to be found ... in actuality you may be playing against your scum meta. Furthermore established players find it hard to read you. Therefore I conclude that it's safe to disregard meta in your case.Also side note: Race could be town but his case would be shattered if he decided to check my past games XD Nevertheless my argument stems from the premise of me being town so I have to die first for others to acknowledge it. On April 10 2016 01:55 Fidei86 wrote: Guys. we are switching to Spika. He has enough posts to know he isn't lurking, but not enough to have contributed anything. Artanis might be mafia, but Spika is dead weight. ##Vote: Spikasaur I can get behind that, but I still think LS should be are lynch. | ||
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On April 10 2016 00:57 GlowingBear wrote: Game is way too quiet. I'm voting Artanis, I'm certain he is Mafia ##Vote: Artanis Do I need to write a comprehensive case or does everyone understand why he is Mafia? Yes I understand but I'd like to see you two duke it out some more. | ||
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On April 10 2016 02:28 DoYouHas wrote: @Race, what are you playing at? If you want push LS then make a case and try and convince us. Stop trying to convince LS that he is mafia. I get that you are new, but I'm not going to be ok with you throwing away your vote on a fringe candidate again today. I think you are town. Be useful. I'm working on it. If it's any consolation I'll be here for the deadline today. | ||
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On April 09 2016 09:58 LightningStrike wrote: I honestly don't know because I do believe that GB town and same with Lex but if I wrong anyone maybe GB because I am a huge sucker for him. Day 1 lead the lynch on a townie who predictably could't make the deadline (Germany). Day 2 no scumspect. CH would've been glad to lynch him so perhaps that's why he got offed. In the post which I got my scumread from, there may be a vet crumb to render an eventual fake claim more persuasive. On April 06 2016 22:13 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and I think CHodge is Town for a few reasons. 1. His approach to the game is quite different than a normal newbie regarding Vet players like myself and Artanis. 2. He been more thinking critically than me and everyone else up to this point. notice the capitalization. In case you haven't heard already I'm fairly certain that the timing of this post and it's content is indicative of scum parading CH as the most proficient townie in the field and thus making my lynch more attractive because CH was voting me. | ||
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On April 10 2016 08:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Sorry GB  By the way the bovine in your gif is a cow. | ||
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For not updating the players list and important posts info. | ||
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On April 11 2016 05:08 Gossemerr wrote: Have you caught up yet? What are your thoughts on Art since you voted him last second. Too scummy to be scum. I think he's town and I'll be taking the piss out of him a lot reminding him of this game. My scumreads are LS Damdred and a lurker. | ||
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On April 11 2016 05:37 Gossemerr wrote: Can you elaborate on what too scummy to be scum means? His cred for once? Everything GB said seems to be true. I know I'm town. He's townreading who I think is probscum and largely ignoring the lurkers. He's done everything wrong, I don't think scum would go full derp like that. And the thing about townreading CH it's ridiculous how he insists on slicing it up and viewing the pieces independently and out of context. Defending LS with meta that he dphimself denounced and now this naive assertion of LS's attempt to get me lynched being genuine and town. My last second vote was due to me being overwhelmed and my tablet clumsiness. I was stuxk with the notion of having to choose between RB and him, didn't evwn register the push on TW until after I pseudo-voted | ||
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Nor should he imo, but he's not calling you scum and that's troublesoe. | ||
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On April 11 2016 07:19 LightningStrike wrote: He only made a case on me and never really talked about his case with other people other than me. Am I supposed to go around a ask people what they think about you or my case like a beggar? That kind of lobbying seems kind of silly assuming everyone is reading the thread which I assume is a prerequisite to play. Also what are you doing, let me have a conversation with the man ffs, everyone heard you the first time you said that shit | ||
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On April 11 2016 07:02 Gossemerr wrote: Now couldn't it just be that 1: ART is town, in a t v t situation. Can you elaborate on everything he has done wrong in a case? He has been reading you as scummy for a while now. Even since day one. Cases against your top scum suspects will really help us as a town. Kind of important since you are being implicated as scum from a few of us and haven't really offered anything of value to the table. That's what I said TvT with GB but most likely TvS with LS. I will look at Damdred and tell you why he fits into the scumteam, but not right now; | ||
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On April 11 2016 08:21 LightningStrike wrote: Okay that kill was trying to frame me................ Normally when you case someone you do want to talk to other people about your case that how it works. Maybe, but for other reasons than to make it more persuasive, like force-checking for alignment indicative reactions, but the same can be argued in favor of not forcing it to see who reacts to it proactively. | ||
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Right now the only person I'm confident in calling town is Damdred. Why? I'm going through his filter now. | ||
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Rare posts with few short phrases, no cases, no real pushes. Now it's LYLO what is he doing? Mislynched boxer even though he was a townread of his supposed townread. Had the hubris of EoD-attempting to derail a GB vs Artanis lynch, following an insufficiently explained statement that he has townreads on them, even though he finds it curious that Art is townreading him. Says well at least he was right about GB. He kept his options for LYLO open, he could vote for LS, TW or me it seems like without breaking continuity. Makes a vote on LS sound like policy though, and since those aren't likely to happen he's free to hop on TW, who I think is town by process of elimination and me. Kura is the last scum, a new player would't be so absent as town. | ||
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On April 12 2016 18:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: -Contradicts himself time and time again (Calls LS out on TRing CHodge for no reason, does it himself) I didn't contradict myself then nor anywhen. | ||
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On April 12 2016 18:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: a) -Tunneled on LS when people were discussing between two mislynches, meaning he would evade suspicion whilst making sure no one actually would sheep him b) -Constantly comes into the thread with nothing of added value c) -Really goddamn smug d) -For no apparent reason has flipped his read on me e) -Disengaged ##Vote Race Bannon a) I made a case on LS and tried to get him lynched. b) See a). I gave reads and have sufficiently explained them c) I pride myself with an impecable cred. You're jelly and a hater. d) I never had a scumread on you. One time I said you need to do more and you did. e) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
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On April 12 2016 07:09 Kuragari42 wrote: I'm liking Tumble as scum. Not only has he voted for 2 flipped town (boxer and GB) but his filter is kind of lame. And if Tumble is scum, art[xp] may be as well because #649, #770/#772 seems like the kind of team bus that he'd do. What is this assumption based on? | ||
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On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Not lynching someone because he's a townread of a townread is preposterous. Is it? Everyone is working off of the same material so why wouldn't someone at least second guess lynching a townread of a townread? On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also why is Kura scum for being inactive when Spikasaur was just as inactive if not more and flipped town? Why is DYH still town despite being inactive? It makes sense for scum to try to do as little as possible without being first in line to get badmouthed for it. Spika did less than Kura so that made him feel safer. I think he would've been more active if Spika had been more active, if only to avoid being the extremity. I said I was overwhelmed and chose between you and GB, oblivious to the state of the votes because I checked in too late. Do you have other scumreads or will you persist to be a burden to the very end? | ||
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On April 12 2016 01:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: We had to put my dog to sleep today. Don't count on me doing much. I'm sincerely sorry about your dog. | ||
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On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Okay, who are you townreading? What are the townreads of all those people? Have you second guessed all those reads? Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town? If you fully read my post you'll see my other scumreads are Gosse and Kura. I did not only second guess your meta read of LS, but rationally took the decision to disregard meta in his case based on what he said about his own meta and the fact that Fidei said he can't read him at all. I think I went through that analytical process and second guessing accordingly yes. Indeed, I didn't quite catch that. | ||
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On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town? The most memorable thing he did is his recent scumread on TW. I just don't think newblood town would be this indifferent and expect to magically find scum. | ||
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On April 12 2016 20:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The point is, you said you expect every townie to second guess any scumread they have made by any townread they have. Firstly, they may have and just didn't post about it. Secondly, I don't exactly keep track of all of it and that seems silly. I'm pretty sure many people haven't. Thirdly, they might have actually gone through that but haven't posted about it. I expect everyone to do the second-guessing, and maybe Damdred is town and second-guessed his boxer because of me but kept on voting him anyway or not. At the end of the day it's more likely for scum to say they townread someone who townreads their scumread and mislynch that person regardless of what townies say anyway because it's their agenda. | ||
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On April 12 2016 20:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Okay. Presumably you read Gosse as town and you've said you read me as town. Why do you think his case on me is bad? What about TW? Why are two, in your eyes townie players casing me and why are you so sure they're wrong, yet seem to be willing to just take the fall and not try to convince them? Because you gave them good reasons to scumread you by being incompetent to deliver scum thus far. What I think they fail to see is scum wouldn't be this bad. They'd be more like the people I've listed as scum. | ||
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On April 12 2016 20:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So your sole reason for townreading me is because I'm too scummy to be scum? Nothing else? And the way you seem to get more and more restless the worse your cred gets, yes. Also PoE. | ||
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On April 12 2016 21:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You keep saying PoE but your scumread on Kura feels PoE-y and not very fleshed out. Also please answer this: Because you were vocal, passionate and confident about it, while Damdred betrays insecurities saying at least he was right about GB. Also there's a hierarchy to my reasons for Dandred being scum and this one is low on the list honestly. | ||
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On April 13 2016 00:28 Gossemerr wrote: @Race why do you think Art is pushing you so hard? He has been from the beginning. Get you misslynched and win. I'm not seeing how a more stealthy approach would've been less incriminating. @Art Do you think Kura's recent ahoy in activity is scummy? | ||
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On April 13 2016 03:53 Gossemerr wrote: Right, I'm asking: do you agree that Art is our lynch today? Help me lynch LS, Kura or Damdred FFS! | ||
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Goss checked the right people, crumbed inconspicuously, played accordingly so that was exemplary cop play; voting in favor of art regardless was a calculated move, probably instructed by art himself: it's now him vs me and he just needs 1 person to believe he's a dumbass newbtown trying to geronimo Goss' lynch through by himself like a boss, which his excuse of both cases had seemed scummy would indicate. ![[image loading]](http://www.badassoftheweek.com/badass-racebannon.jpg) | ||
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I can see myself going after LS again, the only thing that would've spoken against it is if Goss' suspicion on LS would've dropped dramatically after the greencheck, because then I figure a gf LS would've noticed and Goss wouldn't have survived as long as he did but I checked his filter and it's not the case imo. He calls LS "likely to be scum" way later as well. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/4082d482-e535-4d1f-9843-2e7e6864ce54/a6a09400-1519-4d12-8d36-46fd9c942796.gif) I don't always fire a riffle at someone, but when I do I do it the whole night long You are Race Bannon, the mafia RB. Once per night you may fire an unreal amount of ammunition at someone's residence forcing them to hit the deck and stay down. You will receive a QT with your fellow mafia players in your role PM. You win with mafia! | ||
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