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On February 16 2016 06:04 sicklucker wrote: Dear diary Today I woke up exited to play a game of mafia! Then I looked at the playerlist .. and I was how do you say it. Scared of spam and having alot to read. I also had alot of anxiety about jat calling me names i'm a very fragile emotional person. I hope gb has time because last game he was useless and now I here hes not going have much time again. Automatically scumreading SL for this opening I'm reading the game now for today I have time. | ||
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On February 16 2016 08:51 Trfel wrote: Hm, I'll bite. Eden is mafia because he's been present and seemingly interested, but has avoided talking about any of the things that have been happening. Eden has focused on setup speculation. This isn't inherently scummy, it's largely useless, which can come from either alignment. However, Eden seemed very interested in getting people to interact with him about his setup talk, instead of asking people about reads or commenting on things in the thread. This post directly shows Eden's desire to talk with people about the setup: + Show Spoiler + On February 16 2016 08:18 Eden1892 wrote: "I don't pay attention to the world ending. It has ended for me many times, and began again in the morning." Let's get to it. Any particular objections to millers claiming? In contrast, see his one read this game: + Show Spoiler + On February 16 2016 08:24 Eden1892 wrote: Also, for posterity's sake as much as anything else (how long can this streak last???)... Early guess that rsoultin is town off of tone of post. I put a lot less stock in this than I would have last year, since there's been plenty of time for her to emulate her posting style as mafia, and I recall her starting to do so anyway before I went on sabbatical. But for the moment I still consider it reason to give a cautious town read. Eden doesn't invite discussion, he doesn't even provide his reasons or basic framework for his read. He also weakens the force of his read significantly by providing doubts, resulting in a weak conclusion as well. Eden's disconnect from the thread and lack of interest in alignments says that Eden is mafia. I disagree entirely. Actually, my analysis is the opposite: the setup speculation felt off but his read on Rsoultin felt pretty much sincere. If he isn't null, he is most likely town than mafia for it. | ||
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On February 16 2016 08:59 Trfel wrote: I guess I should have left this with my above post, but to make my read a bit more clear, this is the post that makes me think that Palmar is town. It's not just that he's irrationally confident that Breshke is town, even without sharing reasons. As mafia, Palmar doesn't push things this way, he just doesn't. It's not a very direct method for scum to go "this guy is scum, this guy is scum, no I'm not going to tell you why but he's definitely scum". For Palmar to go out of his normal playstyle in an indirect manner like this, and then go farther to add that I (Trfel) might be mafia, I'm almost certain it's not in Palmar's mafia mindset. It's such an indirect approach for mafia to take with minimal gain, since it doesn't at all line up mislynches. Anyway, I hope that makes a little sense, I'm bad at explaining stuff. It makes sense, although I don't believe this is strong enough to guarantee a firm town read. Palmar is a competent player and completely capable of shape shifting his meta. But still, yes, it indicates Palmar is probably town. And I think the way you are approaching the game is also townie | ||
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On February 16 2016 09:13 sicklucker wrote: because on a somewhat pointless day one if I suspect someone as being mafia and not a powerole I will target them always. I dont even have to be too sure its just always the safe play You're mafia. ##Vote: sicklucker | ||
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On February 18 2016 01:17 nooniansoong wrote: @GB did you read all of SL's filter or are you just going to stop there because you're 100% on him being scum already? I'm catching up. I saw that post and adding his earlier posts to it I felt he was scum. I'm at page 10 now. I took a break for lunch. But I will catch up entirely until deadline | ||
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On February 16 2016 12:03 Eden1892 wrote: I got halfway through responding to that but decided this whole thing is stupid and pedantic. Not that you are. The conversation is just not doing anything helpful for either of us or (presumably) anybody else. I also feel like I'm being unduly backhanded and snide and would like to stop doing that. Suffice to say that I value trying to 'break' setups however possible, which is why I talk about setups all the time at the beginning of games. I don't think inviting millers to claim is actually going to win the game all by itself, but it's a small advantage that breaks our way, and enough of those piling up matters. I also chime in with reads whenever I have something meaningful, and given enough time, I find meaningful things. You know that and I know you know that, so I'm going to ask you to trust that this will happen again this game. Maybe we should talk about what you found interesting that I didn't. I was kinda interested in that but let my pettiness take over for a bit. I know you talked about those guys already and I could look it up in your filter, but humor me as to what you find interesting in those people you listed? I'm convinced Eden is town | ||
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On February 17 2016 01:45 nooniansoong wrote: Just because your name is boldified in red doesn't mean I think you're scum. Enlighten me what you meant here, kush. This doesn't make sense at all | ||
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On February 17 2016 08:12 Palmar wrote: It's unfortunate that I don't want to post right now. I bet that's not very helpful of me. I hate that you're doing this and I can see you doing it as Mafia | ||
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I'm on page 21 and I'll keep catching up later but I need a break. Can someone summarise what's going on right now for me? | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:00 Trfel wrote: We're basically lynching between Shapelog and sicklucker and maybe Palmar. Not much happening. Shapelog is in the lead, I suggest you take a look at him. My vote is on Sicklucker, but can you direct me to the reasoning of why Shapelog and Palmar are Mafia? I really didn't see anything alignmrent indicative during my read-through | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:10 Shapelog wrote: Can I Explain it? Yes Although I'll take it with a grain of salt | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:13 sicklucker wrote: Gb you realize you have a 100% record of scum reading me in games esp early right? like its not even funny at this point. you do it as mafia too which is annoiyng That's not true, latest games I've been accurately reading you as town because you looked townie. You don't here, at least until I've stopped catching up. And it seems I'm not the only one to think that here. | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:15 Trfel wrote: The reasoning for Palmar being mafia is that his reads are lazy and he's being bad. I think that this reasoning is a bit poor, to say the least. Shapelog is mafia because he hasn't had a push or direction to his play until he became the leading wagon. Only at this point did he show an actual interest in scumreads, and he seems to be flailing wildly instead of actually figuring out who is scum. I don't think Shapelog is the lynch for today. I've seen him droppig some genuine insights that showed fair amount of effort behind it. He could be Mafia but there are far better lynches today | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:25 sicklucker wrote: No no you havent. not even close. even in the pyp game where i was townread by 20/22 players you poped in randomly and said why is no one lynching sicklucker? came one game where you thought i was town. one I didn't even play PYP properly The game where I, Marv and you last played together | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:25 Breshke wrote: I never said they were BS i said i don't see how people were voting you without saying those posts were BS. Did TT's vote come before or after you made that post where you quoted three of your own? I understand GB because he probably hasn't read it. Honestly thought more people were voting you this is weird coming from you since you normally would just not care since you dont like D1 right? Wait did SL claim? | ||
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Ok, and what are your reada? | ||
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