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rsoultin
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Tumblewood
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 16 2016 09:48 Tictock wrote: This is pretty much what I've been thinking as well. If anyone cares... I liked This is a really towny post IMO. Trfel is throwing out an odd townread on someone who is kinda playing like lynchbait (and even backs up the meta-read fairly well in a followup post) while questioning their reads and trying to get further reaction from Bre. Cool, that's like 4 townreads right there. Ezy Game. Here Tictock townreads Trfel for his reads on Palmar/Breshke, and says that Breshke was playing like lynchbait. This could be a point against Breshke but it's probably confirmation bias. + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2016 16:02 Tictock wrote: This is prob the first thing I've seen from Rsoul that I totally agree with. The town!Bre that I know is never on the frontlines directing town and pushing the game forward, he's more the quite thoughtful guy in the corner who catches stuff that gets overlooked. His activity and the fact that he tends to post small snippets rather than huge cases and reads often makes it hard for people to read him. Every post I've seen from Bre this game looks like town!Bre to me. Asking questions with purpose, pointing out stuff that others miss (like the last post of his I quoted), and he's showing efforts at solving the game. This is a really hard townread on Breshke. Also, rsoul townread Breshke in the nested quote. + Show Spoiler + Tictock said one time, under the pretense of a tinfoil... Conclusions: Breshke is town, idk what Palmar was on about. Tumble is probably mafia, read progressions suggest an agenda because his main reads/poe list went out the window when his preferred lynch claimed blue. If Tumble flips red it's much more likely that scott is mafia, but not necessarily true. Trfel's strong TR on Tumble seems off to me, and it's also possible him being so sure Palmar was town was TMI like palmar suggested. Overall I'm still thinking Trfel is town because he seems to genuinely want to solve the game, but a lot of his reads just don't make sense to me. Kush is probably also Scum. Team of Tumble/Scott/Kush actually makes a lot of sense. I'm thinking Tumble is who we start with. He went from townlean to mafia on me, Trfel is town, Breshke is town, kush is scum, scott is scum. + Show Spoiler + On February 19 2016 12:02 Tictock wrote: For the Flowers though... Just gunna vote who I though was scum last night. ##Vote: Tumblewood He voted me on D2, when the only serious wagon was GB. I'm done doing this association read, TL;DR Tictock has been tunneling me since D2, townreading but disagreeing with Trfel all game, townleaning Breshke all game, and townreading rsoul since D2. To you it means more than to me, because he was townleaning/reading all of you and I'm not trying to read myself. Basically, you're all on equal footing in terms of association. | ||
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rsoultin
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i mean i do think bresh is the most likely scum here, but all this auto-lynching stuff gives me the heebie jeebies. tumble, dude, what does that post really mean? i guess the better way to put it is...what do you get out of it, in the sense that what were you expecting to find to indicate a scum mate with TT? | ||
Tumblewood
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On February 28 2016 13:12 rsoultin wrote: bueno... :/ i mean i do think bresh is the most likely scum here, but all this auto-lynching stuff gives me the heebie jeebies. tumble, dude, what does that post really mean? i guess the better way to put it is...what do you get out of it, in the sense that what were you expecting to find to indicate a scum mate with TT? Well, you know how sometimes people make association reads based on how a flipped scum acted toward suspects? I thought there would be something that TT did that could give me insight, but then I gave up and quit because I kept finding nothing in TT's filter (that was also 13 pages) to indicate the alignments of Trfel, Breshke, or you. | ||
rsoultin
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On February 28 2016 13:41 Tumblewood wrote: Well, you know how sometimes people make association reads based on how a flipped scum acted toward suspects? I thought there would be something that TT did that could give me insight, but then I gave up and quit because I kept finding nothing in TT's filter (that was also 13 pages) to indicate the alignments of Trfel, Breshke, or you. well...yeah, i've gone through it, too, and the most i really got from it is he seemed to not really know what to do with gb lol >< which at least suggests that you're town? cause like...gb is a much easier buss than you would be i'd think, and it would be weird for his awkwardness with one scum mate to not be shared with the other. so there's that | ||
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Vote Count - Day 5 Breshke (3): Trfel, Tumblewood, rsoultin Not Voting (1): Breshke At this time, Breshke is slated to be lynched. Day 4 ends in on 21:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted. | ||
Trfel
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##vote no lynch I don't like how Breshke has vanished completely, I'm not confident that this is mafia indicative for him. I really wish he could be here to answer questions, I feel that it would help a lot. The only concern is, if we no-lynch and Breshke gets modkilled and he's town, we lose, right? But that's basically the same as if we lynched him, which is the alternative anyway, so I don't think this matters? | ||
rsoultin
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On February 29 2016 14:25 Trfel wrote: Yeah, I doubt I will have time to do anything before the lynch. However, I am not going to end up being modkilled (talked to some comp sci person and got a fancy internet thing set up) and I would prefer to no-lynch if that is okay with everyone? ##vote no lynch I don't like how Breshke has vanished completely, I'm not confident that this is mafia indicative for him. I really wish he could be here to answer questions, I feel that it would help a lot. The only concern is, if we no-lynch and Breshke gets modkilled and he's town, we lose, right? But that's basically the same as if we lynched him, which is the alternative anyway, so I don't think this matters? honestly, truffle, i think you're town lol >< and if bresh gets modkilled and is town then yes...pretty sure that means we lose do you honestly think this will help? like, either bresh will come back and can answer questions or he won't and the game's already decided one way or another...if you think either tumble or myself could be scum, then maybe you should just look into that? | ||
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On February 29 2016 15:13 rsoultin wrote: I think it's possible that I'm wrong? I'm really good at being wrong?honestly, truffle, i think you're town lol >< and if bresh gets modkilled and is town then yes...pretty sure that means we lose do you honestly think this will help? like, either bresh will come back and can answer questions or he won't and the game's already decided one way or another...if you think either tumble or myself could be scum, then maybe you should just look into that? I mean, I kinda want to look at things again because regardless of who is mafia, it's a very winnable game. I just feel bad not doing so ![]() Like, I don't need to no-lynch, but I feel really guilty not doing so, if that makes sense? Because then it's very much my fault if we lose. + Show Spoiler + Also, I kind of wonder if Breshke is mafia, how was there a night kill? It didn't seem like Breshke was present at all, so was the kill randomized, or did he submit a kill and not actually post anything (feels out of character)? Or is he actually town? | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 29 2016 16:24 Trfel wrote: I think it's possible that I'm wrong? I'm really good at being wrong? I mean, I kinda want to look at things again because regardless of who is mafia, it's a very winnable game. I just feel bad not doing so ![]() Like, I don't need to no-lynch, but I feel really guilty not doing so, if that makes sense? Because then it's very much my fault if we lose. + Show Spoiler + Also, I kind of wonder if Breshke is mafia, how was there a night kill? It didn't seem like Breshke was present at all, so was the kill randomized, or did he submit a kill and not actually post anything (feels out of character)? Or is he actually town? + Show Spoiler + given damdy said kills are mandatory and the hosts just discussed RNGing the lynch with HTS's last game if scum doesn't submit a kill? not sure that the nk says anything one way or another lol >< well i mean, technically we can no lynch but it's not fundamentally different? then you know assuming bresh doesn't get modkilled you or i get shot lol >< and i personally can't play next day phase cause EoD falls on a thursday...which is really awful in lylo so no i don't really want to no-lynch, especially when bresh is still afk...i could see the point if he were here and we wanted the extra time -shrugs- | ||
rsoultin
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a no-lynch is tantamount to a concession :/ i am making sense, right? | ||
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But it's also quite possible that this is completely incorrect, and this isn't really a possibility that I've looked into yet ![]() | ||
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On March 01 2016 00:31 Tumblewood wrote: This is really bad if Breshke is actually here and votes at the very last second and is mafia. It gives him a free win. Even if it seems like Breshke just isn't here, that would be the worst way to lose.What I gather is that the best way to do this is to lynch someone (rsoul?) and let Breshke get modkilled. From my perspective, that's a 90%ish chance we hit mafia. And I really don't feel that playing for modkills is a good thing to do anyway. | ||
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