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On February 18 2016 15:11 Eden1892 wrote:I'm going to do my best to ignore the parts that were unreasonable, but you need to cut this attitude out, because it's completely uncalled for. I think there is one salient point in there I'll try to address without the things around it... Show nested quote +I very clearly gave reasons for why he could be town and started out as a townread but as I got to the end of his filter, the ZERO scumreads raised a red flag. The "evidence I cited for him being town" became evidence of being possibly scummy because, as I pointed out, scum are much more easily capable of handing out easy townreads like he did. Like, what I LITERALLY did is LITERALLY what you're saying I didn't do. Wtf? The way I read the initial reads post, this: Show nested quote +His early posts were short but the tone seemed pretty relaxed from the jokes with Shapelog, while also mixing some good posts, mainly the one about Trfel and his TR on him. I'm still working on my Trfel read due to how he's treating me, but I will say I really liked TT's Eden read and see pretty much what he sees. His GB read seemed pretty accurate, too, I've also played with a lackadaiscal, non-caring GB town multiple times before which has ended in GB being prime lynchbait. I could probably see where he's coming from, though I wish GB would actually play. looked like Shining was saying Tictock was townie for making these points about these reads. I guess if he's saying that Tictock is a little more likely to give these reads as mafia, you can still say all this, but when I'm reading it the conclusion I'm being led to is "Tictock is town." Maybe I should have asked first -- since you conclude that Tictock leans scum (and thus was just handing out these townreads to get town credit or be active or whatever have you), why do you think that explanation is more likely than the one where Tictock is town, identifies some other townies early but just doesn't have a good scumread at that point in time?
You got sarcastic with me, as well, but then tell me to cut the attitude out? Kays, I will try my best. At least this post is pretty straightforward.
I also explained the answer to that question, to a small degree. I came off of what was imo a great town game by TT in which we were both in Final 4 and we both had the last scum figured out. He also scumread/nailed quite a few of scum in that game. He may have scummed them all at one point. He was also very confident in that game. The lack of confidence in giving any sort of scumread to anyone while giving out townreads in this game didn't line up with that game and with it being so recent, I assumed that confidence would still be evident in his playstyle. Zero scumreads is not what I was expecting from the town TT I know.
And, in the interest of fairness, that read was originally supposed to lead to Tictock is town until I finished his filter and realized I had no idea who TT thought was scum or wanted to lynch. I just didn't bother re-reading or addressing the post because I didn't feel I had anything to hide. I thought it was easily summed up in "the lack of scumreads makes it possible that these were just ez town reads that scum could make."
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I'll get to Edens reads question after class. I think there's something I wanted to mention about Tictock this morning but I skimmed before class, I'll be useful in an about an hour or so.
Im really only making this post to say I absolutely hate that Shape put a billion spoilers into that post. Idk why I read them all, the medal wasn't worth it.
On the topic of Shape, am I the only one not sensing an urgency from him? Soft blue claim to avoid a lynch but it doesn't feel like he's afraid of dying tonight. Discuss?
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On February 19 2016 03:31 nooniansoong wrote:
Tt is still mafia though. Nothing townie in his filter. How tinfoil looks takes. I know he likes to tinfoil as scum I think. Opportunistic scum reads which I'll explain later.
TT tinfoiled as town in pyp. If he's scum, it's not for that. Im rereading TT to see if I still think he's scum but I wanted to point this out. Do you have an example of him tinfoiling as scum?
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On February 19 2016 06:26 Breshke wrote:
So you hard claim the investigative role?
Also why are you so sure you watched the Vigi?
Also you out who it is first to confirm your role
This is probably the best post since EoN.
Shape you already claimed who you watched. Just finish off the claim with who shot Eden so we can confirm you.
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On February 19 2016 06:51 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 06:50 The Shining wrote:On February 19 2016 06:26 Breshke wrote:
So you hard claim the investigative role?
Also why are you so sure you watched the Vigi?
Also you out who it is first to confirm your role This is probably the best post since EoN. Shape you already claimed who you watched. Just finish off the claim with who shot Eden so we can confirm you. no he said he got nor esult, I.E. there is a godfather who sent the kill
You believe that? He said it after he was reprimanded for insta claiming. It read to me like he was doing that to backtrack and claim later on in the day like he was told to.
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On February 19 2016 06:58 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 06:56 The Shining wrote:On February 19 2016 06:51 Breshke wrote:On February 19 2016 06:50 The Shining wrote:On February 19 2016 06:26 Breshke wrote:
So you hard claim the investigative role?
Also why are you so sure you watched the Vigi?
Also you out who it is first to confirm your role This is probably the best post since EoN. Shape you already claimed who you watched. Just finish off the claim with who shot Eden so we can confirm you. no he said he got nor esult, I.E. there is a godfather who sent the kill You believe that? He said it after he was reprimanded for insta claiming. It read to me like he was doing that to backtrack and claim later on in the day like he was told to. What is your most recent scum game?
Battle of the drams. I'd link but im on mobile.
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On February 19 2016 07:01 Shapelog wrote:
I am here for like 5 mins. If you find it hard to that i got a no result. Think about it logically. What Vig in their right mind would Shoot Eden N1? And between the 2, who was the easier ML? Eden or SL? Why would mafia decide to shoot SL over Eden? Because they did not shoot SL, they shot Eden.
Wait you're really hard claiming no result?
What's your read on me right now?
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On February 19 2016 07:54 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 07:05 Shapelog wrote:
DO not underestimate Tumble, as either alignment. Guy is pretty good Tbh as scum and prob. great as town. What? My play sucked in NSM XIX
By contrast, how would you rate your play here?
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I am Heat aka the vig. Breadcrumbs:
On February 17 2016 14:37 The Shining wrote:
I'm gonna go play Ark, I'll probably check back in once or twice in the next hr before bed, but I'll drop a vote before class at 10 am tomorrow morning EST. I'd like my scumleans to give me some interaction and responses before I jump the gun on any of em. Cheers.
On February 18 2016 14:57 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 14:22 Eden1892 wrote:On February 18 2016 14:20 The Shining wrote:On February 18 2016 14:10 Eden1892 wrote:On February 18 2016 11:20 The Shining wrote:On February 18 2016 05:24 Eden1892 wrote:
Lets lynch Shining.
Give me time to analyze the power role shenanigans. Don't try to resolve that without me. ESP since we might get more info about those shenanigans with the nightkill Still no power role shenanigans analysis. Went from not having a stance on Palmmar when rso asked to saying Palmar is a better lynch than both SLs and admitted to not reading since the night before. I also can't get a single Damn interaction or response from the guy who wants to lynch me off of one point. Seems legit. Eden continues to fall down my green list. brb crying to my parents about how scared this makes me feel Pointless taunt is pointless. Who's the one taunting who? Your entire post I quoted was empty threats. Then more insults when called out for it. Seriously? I pointed out that you haven't done what you said you were going to do(which you still haven't done) and pointed out something odd I found in your filter that was literally one post apart. Things that make me view you less as strong town and more as opportunistic and possible scum. These are not empty threats. They are comments on your gameplay. But instead of explaining them or trying to act rational, you get combative and sarcastic and antagonistic. Something that you say is scum indicative of me, but I'm supposed to believe it's townie when coming from you?. And please point out where these "insults" are. I've been very careful this game to not be my usual firebrand self for fear of a TL Ban after my warning last game. Saying I insulted you up to this point is false and a discredit to me.
Really surprised I lived through the night, I thought I was obvious. I shot Eden for big plays because I felt like he came off of me too easily and I was feeling cowboyish. It was a horrible shot in hindsight but he didn't seem connected or interested on anything besides me until the very last few posts, and I didn't want to second guess myself.
This is also why I was hammering Shape saying he got no result. His result should've been me. The only way he gets no result is being roleblocked and there was so much talk of SL being blue that I figured that is why scum shot SL. Thing is, why would they risk shooting a possible blue in Vet SL while rbing Shape instead?
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On February 19 2016 08:29 Breshke wrote:
Shining isn't excited enough to be the vig. Someone just claimed his role he would be more up and about than he is.
Also you can't reaction check a vigi so he is scum
I'm At work and technically not even allowed to be on my phone anymore. I'm doing the best I can. Your jumping on Me without even waiting for explanation looks horrible
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Man my time restraints are really killing me. I hate not being able to play anymore. I also really feel like I should've shot Scott. Hosts need to stop giving me nk power.
I don't understand why scum GB wouldn't fake claim there btw. It goes like this: GB has no useful contribution this game. GB posts pics. GB tunnels one person. GB goes under suspicion. GB claims vig. At best, he gets read as unCCd town vig if I don't cc him and rides that credit. At worst, he draws out the vig and goes 1-1. The reason scum would do this is if they can also confirm Shapes blue role, which happened. One scum for confirmation on two blue roles when that scum is already under suspicion is quite likely.
As for GB drawing a shot, Shape was pretty much confirmed town after his claim. I started tinfoiling because I was under the assumption rbs were notified and he should've either known he was rbd or actually saw me shoot Eden. Blue Shape being rbd and living makes complete sense now. But once Shape claimed watcher, there was no reason for a townGB to think a vig who alrdy shot was going to soak a bullet as opposed to the watcher who arguably becomes stronger the longer he's alive. Especially since scum has no way of guaranteeing their rber doesn't get lynched today.
Tldr why would GB think a vig who is basically named vt now would soak a shot over basically confirmed watcher Shape? He wouldn't. The fakeclaim is scummy.
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On February 20 2016 04:12 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2016 03:40 The Shining wrote:
Man my time restraints are really killing me. I hate not being able to play anymore. I also really feel like I should've shot Scott. Hosts need to stop giving me nk power.
I don't understand why scum GB wouldn't fake claim there btw. It goes like this: GB has no useful contribution this game. GB posts pics. GB tunnels one person. GB goes under suspicion. GB claims vig. At best, he gets read as unCCd town vig if I don't cc him and rides that credit. At worst, he draws out the vig and goes 1-1. The reason scum would do this is if they can also confirm Shapes blue role, which happened. One scum for confirmation on two blue roles when that scum is already under suspicion is quite likely.
As for GB drawing a shot, Shape was pretty much confirmed town after his claim. I started tinfoiling because I was under the assumption rbs were notified and he should've either known he was rbd or actually saw me shoot Eden. Blue Shape being rbd and living makes complete sense now. But once Shape claimed watcher, there was no reason for a townGB to think a vig who alrdy shot was going to soak a bullet as opposed to the watcher who arguably becomes stronger the longer he's alive. Especially since scum has no way of guaranteeing their rber doesn't get lynched today.
Tldr why would GB think a vig who is basically named vt now would soak a shot over basically confirmed watcher Shape? He wouldn't. The fakeclaim is scummy. Can you elaborate on this part Shining? Kus Shape had already claimed, and it was pretty obv that one of the shots was a Vig. So wouldn't scum already have all the info they need? I agree his fakeclaim was pretty bad but I really don't see any gain for scum to make that play. Town makes pretty stupid fake claims sometimes, like Damdred fake CC'd my claim as GS in Outlaw kus he was convinced I was lying and was scum (I was in fact the GS).
Onegu as scum also fake claimed a red check on you that game...
The point I'm making is they didn't know who was the vig so they use a useless scummate, which GB falls under useless so far, to draw me out.
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On February 20 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2016 04:20 Shapelog wrote:
I honestly feel like GB > over Scott right now. But I want a read list and content from them Soooooo :/
I'll laugh if neither of them are scum. (that is a lie, I curse myself.) I'd be happy because this game would become interesting.
If we lynch both and neither are scum, this game isn't interesting. It's over.
Like honestly the only way Scott and GB team makes sense is if their teammate is heavily TRd and thinks they can solo carry. Which isn't impossible but pretty risky. And it's horrible unflipped association.
Scott really gives no shits about surviving tbh. If he gets flipped scum, I'm sure at least one of his teammates are pushing him hard
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Wait.
Trfel, what happened between your vca implying TT was likely mafia to believing hes town and asking if others believe you?
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On February 20 2016 05:10 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2016 04:41 The Shining wrote:On February 20 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:On February 20 2016 04:20 Shapelog wrote:
I honestly feel like GB > over Scott right now. But I want a read list and content from them Soooooo :/
I'll laugh if neither of them are scum. (that is a lie, I curse myself.) I'd be happy because this game would become interesting. If we lynch both and neither are scum, this game isn't interesting. It's over. Like honestly the only way Scott and GB team makes sense is if their teammate is heavily TRd and thinks they can solo carry. Which isn't impossible but pretty risky. And it's horrible unflipped association. Scott really gives no shits about surviving tbh. If he gets flipped scum, I'm sure at least one of his teammates are pushing him hard scott/gb/tt why is that impossible?
It's not, it's just improbable and a little too easy for my liking.
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On February 20 2016 06:12 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2016 06:00 The Shining wrote:On February 20 2016 05:10 nooniansoong wrote:On February 20 2016 04:41 The Shining wrote:On February 20 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:On February 20 2016 04:20 Shapelog wrote:
I honestly feel like GB > over Scott right now. But I want a read list and content from them Soooooo :/
I'll laugh if neither of them are scum. (that is a lie, I curse myself.) I'd be happy because this game would become interesting. If we lynch both and neither are scum, this game isn't interesting. It's over. Like honestly the only way Scott and GB team makes sense is if their teammate is heavily TRd and thinks they can solo carry. Which isn't impossible but pretty risky. And it's horrible unflipped association. Scott really gives no shits about surviving tbh. If he gets flipped scum, I'm sure at least one of his teammates are pushing him hard scott/gb/tt why is that impossible? It's not, it's just improbable and a little too easy for my liking. why is it improbable? id look through your filter but it's kind of dense.
Ez reason: shit team. Scott afk voted GB d1. It throws a spike in them being scum together. Not impossible, just a big question mark. I also need to re-read TT. Then there's also my hatred of association reads with no scum flips.
Thought out reason: This day phase feels painfully slow. General consensus is that Scott or GB is scum. But no one is pushing that envelope super hard, or talking about other things on the chance that one or both are town. The lack of discussion and lines of questioning being pursued feels like scum is perfectly fine with how this day is progressing. That only happens if one or both are town, OR the 3rd teammate is hard towned.
Today is my last real lockdown day at work and no class tomorrow so I should be able to reevaluate and throw out thoughts between tonight and eod.
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On February 20 2016 06:17 rsoultin wrote:
gb prob is scum but not for the claim
#awesomestsoul
Can't. Resist.
Is it cuz you have tmi?
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On February 20 2016 06:41 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2016 06:35 rsoultin wrote:On February 20 2016 06:26 nooniansoong wrote:On February 20 2016 06:22 rsoultin wrote:On February 20 2016 06:20 nooniansoong wrote:
rsoul u like my lameass tt/gb/scott scumteam? hmmm tt idk but gb and scott yup ^^ like there's a chance gb isn't scum here but it's pretty small and getting smaller and nope not gonna explain, ha! i promise i might actually possibly really read filters tonight maybe >> noooooon i started yours and you has pages o.0 why do i not remember you being that involved? dont meta me bro. you played like 1 game with me. i'm a guuuuurl!!! i promise >> ignore any rumors started by the lex >> HE DOESN'T KNOW (lol >< more seriously, noon, i'm not "meta-ing" you, but i have been pretty impressed with your play lately and yes i've hosted games you were in -flicks- maybe i'll see that shiny when i read your filter, but this is a far cry from super!town noon) 1. girls can be bros, you want me to call you sista? that's just weird. 2. i thought you were metaing me, saying that as town i'm not that invovled, therefore my involvement is looking scummy. So I misinterpreted you there.2 3. I suspect you haven't seen me as that involved because you usually start talking late at night, and I usually go to bed 10:30ish eastern. Whenever I wake up I see all these posts from you, trfel, shining and I'm like damn I wish I could have been there for that party. All I have for interactions is shittyass shapelog at lunch time.
Lol @ #3
But ya RSo, Trfel threw a little doubt into me about you and it worries me that you're still producing posts even though you said you were trying not to spam, but your content doesn't look like it has any direction
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