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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 17 2016 14:42 rsoultin wrote: ye no explanation that's what i remembered Ah yeah the no explanation is questionable. I dont want to give him an out here but you have approx the same filter length as someone else higher up on his town list, Shape. Maybe he doesn't think you're quite spamming yet? Scott, are these 2 spamming? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 17 2016 14:46 The Shining wrote: Ah yeah the no explanation is questionable. I dont want to give him an out here but you have approx the same filter length as someone else higher up on his town list, Shape. Maybe he doesn't think you're quite spamming yet? Scott, are these 2 spamming? -_- > doesn't want to give him an out > proceeds to give him an out i already asked for an explanation | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 17 2016 14:45 rsoultin wrote: blah posting this late is making me lose my train of thought palmar i agree on more or less...i don't see him as a d1 lynch more because of who he is than anything else tt was underwhelming for me, so that kinda lines up if i didn't microsleep too much through the summary lol >< your reads seem okayish tbh (more or less close to where i'm sitting) though the play-by-play gives me pause just cuz...ye, you and jeering about your shit wall of texts before that i have a tendency to townread you for when you're scum >< evil one Lmao yeah the tldr on TT was underwhelming, lots of TRs, no scumreads but confident we'll lynch scum becuz he's found so many town. Ignoring the play by play aspect of my read on Shape, though, do you agree or disagree with the weird flop read on Tumble? Like, the posts happen so close to eachother, sometimes within the same post. LOL @ being TRd as scum for WoTs. I only have 2 scum games but I've squeezed them into town games, too. I don't want to self-meta but my alignment should become more evident AFTER my catch-up WoTs. But I can understand where you're coming from with this since the last time we played together was I believe my last scum game(Drams?) | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Looking through his filter I could definitely see him being mafia this game. I guess the first thing that sticks out to me is the townread on Palmar. I obviously think this is a very accurate and insightful read, however since I'm the only person who thinks this, it doesn't make sense that scott31337 would think this way and have so little doubt over it (the amount that he's letting Palmar seemingly direct his vote and the thread is insane for the level of seriousness/investment that Palmar has shown). Second, his switch to a townread on Tumblewood feels opportunistic, "he's playing just like last game" to "maybe he did roll town this game". But it's by no means a great argument. So, yay. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 17 2016 14:49 rsoultin wrote: -_- > doesn't want to give him an out > proceeds to give him an out i already asked for an explanation Rip. I'm also tired. There's another reasoning behind my question, though. But ya he should def start with explanations. It's also not that much of an out, since you already mentioned him calling your spam anti-town or scummy. Who gave him the out first? Outception. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 17 2016 14:50 The Shining wrote: Lmao yeah the tldr on TT was underwhelming, lots of TRs, no scumreads but confident we'll lynch scum becuz he's found so many town. Ignoring the play by play aspect of my read on Shape, though, do you agree or disagree with the weird flop read on Tumble? Like, the posts happen so close to eachother, sometimes within the same post. LOL @ being TRd as scum for WoTs. I only have 2 scum games but I've squeezed them into town games, too. I don't want to self-meta but my alignment should become more evident AFTER my catch-up WoTs. But I can understand where you're coming from with this since the last time we played together was I believe my last scum game(Drams?) ye heh >< you fooled me both times (drams, student V) with WoTs...i guess i'm just prime for falling for a shining i'd need to check that on shape re: tumble...prob in the morning, though objectively speaking i dunnae how alignment indicative waffling actually is. i'd gen say town is more reactive than scum. i already don't like shape though, and have a townlean on tumble, so -shrugs- | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Anyway, good night. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 17 2016 14:53 The Shining wrote: Rip. I'm also tired. There's another reasoning behind my question, though. But ya he should def start with explanations. It's also not that much of an out, since you already mentioned him calling your spam anti-town or scummy. Who gave him the out first? Outception. lol touche, though i'd argue i at least wasn't uber-direct about it @truffle, thanks for the look...and lol @ scumreads for agreeing with your reads. i understand but it's still funny >> | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On February 17 2016 14:41 The Shining wrote: The Mon/Tues thing? Before. He was the first one to ask about it after one of my first posts iirc i think ibrought it up tho... thats kinda my point unless i missed a post | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On February 17 2016 11:29 Breshke wrote: ehh I have a problem with these two posts. the first one shows meaningful insight into why edens "setup speculation" wasn't scummy. This makes me think that he has obviously thought about what eden is saying and realised millers are self aware. then the second post he suddenly backtracks and says a bunch of words about not much. I know dumbtells almost always come from town and mafia hardly ever fake them but this isn't really a dumbtell because it isnt about the mafia roles. Like I don't get how the same person wrote these two posts. Scum lean on Shape This is actually a really good point. I thought that tinfoil was off, but I was thinking more because it was silly to keep talking about the miller stuff when nobody claimed. Also if Eden was mafia I'd imagine he would have just claimed Miller himself and let us sort out that they are in fact aware. + Show Spoiler + ok actually I have no idea if Eden would do that as scum (never played with the guy/gal before), but I'm pretty sure I would have Ugh, I didn't want to have to go look at Shapes mafia filter, but I'm getting the feeling I may need to. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On February 17 2016 11:33 rsoultin wrote: pfft i'm not lynching breshke because when he's a good devil's advocate and looking at everything from all sides he pretty much invariably is town -beats with a wet noodle- palmar having different reads from me is not related to why i'm reading anyone the way i am; we're just both tone-type players and i've noticed that our reads have been converging more and more as time goes on, even if for different reasons tbf though usually when we're both town and we differ he's right >> bastard This is prob the first thing I've seen from Rsoul that I totally agree with. The town!Bre that I know is never on the frontlines directing town and pushing the game forward, he's more the quite thoughtful guy in the corner who catches stuff that gets overlooked. His activity and the fact that he tends to post small snippets rather than huge cases and reads often makes it hard for people to read him. Every post I've seen from Bre this game looks like town!Bre to me. Asking questions with purpose, pointing out stuff that others miss (like the last post of his I quoted), and he's showing efforts at solving the game. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On February 17 2016 11:40 sicklucker wrote: you think hes town right? nothing new me and everyone aparently does Why do you think shape is town? I remember you declaring it before, but I didn't really see why. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On February 17 2016 12:00 sicklucker wrote: Trefel your a pretty cool guy and the only one who even voted anyone AT ALL besides me and maybe kush. You two are likely to be town for that i think. I mean ive never been in a game where no one at all voted tho so i donno.. I may not be doing much but I at least voted early for information to you konw.. + Show Spoiler + play mafia I've never understood why there is this idea that people should vote early and often. Like i get the idea behind pressure votes but especially D1 votes are usually a hodgepodge with everyone being all over the place until the last couple hours. Well for me personally I find I tend to play better when I'm not trying to drop a vote with the first decent looking case that is brought up and instead focus a little more on my reads. Again, this is moreso in regards to D1-2. Later in the game it's easier and probably better to get the ball rolling with votes since there is already plenty to go on. Sorry, /rant I'd like to know what(if any) info you got from your vote SL. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On February 17 2016 12:00 rsoultin wrote: can we lynch shape? -bats lashes at- alternatively, if we're lynching players with pre-game excuses, gb is always fun to lynch lol Didn't you suggest GB play even though he said he was going to have issues with time this game? Although now that I think about it, if GB's play thus far is any indication of how he will continue to play he might not be a terrible Plynch even if he does flip town. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On February 17 2016 13:02 The Shining wrote: Hello. Phone post. I was townread? By who? I just got home and have a few hours to kill before bedtime, stuff I will do. Impressed you will be. I do like how Trfel brings up my Monday/Tuesday meta excuse but then starts pushing me because I made a few posts after realizing this game started, then went to live life. Seems counter intuitive to bring it up, call it NAI, then push it because I'm not here on days I'm known to not be here. OMG Scum claim right there. Implying that life is more important than this game... | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On February 17 2016 13:58 Trfel wrote: First, I didn't call you useless  Second, if I were convinced you were scum, I'd be voting for you Third, smileys are great Fourth, please, go ahead and carry me, that would also be great Not quite as great as smileys, though  Fifth, you're misrepresenting my argument, and I've already said what I think about that But it's fine, since I don't have a very strong argument anyway, please feel free to do your own thing I suddenly feel like Disformation hacked your account. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On February 17 2016 16:16 Tictock wrote: I've never understood why there is this idea that people should vote early and often. Like i get the idea behind pressure votes but especially D1 votes are usually a hodgepodge with everyone being all over the place until the last couple hours. Well for me personally I find I tend to play better when I'm not trying to drop a vote with the first decent looking case that is brought up and instead focus a little more on my reads. Again, this is moreso in regards to D1-2. Later in the game it's easier and probably better to get the ball rolling with votes since there is already plenty to go on. Sorry, /rant I'd like to know what(if any) info you got from your vote SL. nothing because no one voted | ||
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