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On February 17 2016 14:42 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 04:23 scott31337 wrote:
Palmar/Shape/Trfel leaning town
Rsoul/TT lighter not has hard but townside of null
GB/Noon/Shining/SL - not enough information
Tumble/Breshke leaning mafia since Tumble looks just like his last game I played with him - and Breshke should have more
light and shining and it's just not there.
Eden usually shits town rainbows but there's a lot of fluff in his filter - so I'm still on the fence on him - wouldn't be the lynch today ye no explanation that's what i remembered
Ah yeah the no explanation is questionable. I dont want to give him an out here but you have approx the same filter length as someone else higher up on his town list, Shape. Maybe he doesn't think you're quite spamming yet?
Scott, are these 2 spamming?
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On February 17 2016 14:46 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 14:42 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 04:23 scott31337 wrote:
Palmar/Shape/Trfel leaning town
Rsoul/TT lighter not has hard but townside of null
GB/Noon/Shining/SL - not enough information
Tumble/Breshke leaning mafia since Tumble looks just like his last game I played with him - and Breshke should have more
light and shining and it's just not there.
Eden usually shits town rainbows but there's a lot of fluff in his filter - so I'm still on the fence on him - wouldn't be the lynch today ye no explanation that's what i remembered Ah yeah the no explanation is questionable. I dont want to give him an out here but you have approx the same filter length as someone else higher up on his town list, Shape. Maybe he doesn't think you're quite spamming yet? Scott, are these 2 spamming?
-_-
> doesn't want to give him an out
> proceeds to give him an out
i already asked for an explanation
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On February 17 2016 14:45 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 14:40 rsoultin wrote:
nh
lol is it awful that i'm more happy with the later reads than the first ones? the play-by-play summaries of shape and tt were painful -flicks shining-
also -shakes fist at damdy- i want a scott filter!
lemme see if i can find the post again...it's basically that i'm used to scott scumreading me come hell or high water for being spammy -_- which ye i'm failing at again this game so i have no clue how it's different this time. he always thinks my "spam" is scummy or at best anti-town blah posting this late is making me lose my train of thought palmar i agree on more or less...i don't see him as a d1 lynch more because of who he is than anything else tt was underwhelming for me, so that kinda lines up if i didn't microsleep too much through the summary lol >< your reads seem okayish tbh (more or less close to where i'm sitting) though the play-by-play gives me pause just cuz...ye, you and jeering about your shit wall of texts before that i have a tendency to townread you for when you're scum >< evil one
Lmao yeah the tldr on TT was underwhelming, lots of TRs, no scumreads but confident we'll lynch scum becuz he's found so many town. Ignoring the play by play aspect of my read on Shape, though, do you agree or disagree with the weird flop read on Tumble? Like, the posts happen so close to eachother, sometimes within the same post.
LOL @ being TRd as scum for WoTs. I only have 2 scum games but I've squeezed them into town games, too. I don't want to self-meta but my alignment should become more evident AFTER my catch-up WoTs. But I can understand where you're coming from with this since the last time we played together was I believe my last scum game(Drams?)
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Oh yeah, scott31337 is in the game. I keep forgetting that, no filter, bad Trfel. Anyway, here you go rsoultin, even though I didn't actually finish the thread. Going to bed now, I'll try and do it tomorrow.
Looking through his filter I could definitely see him being mafia this game. I guess the first thing that sticks out to me is the townread on Palmar. I obviously think this is a very accurate and insightful read, however since I'm the only person who thinks this, it doesn't make sense that scott31337 would think this way and have so little doubt over it (the amount that he's letting Palmar seemingly direct his vote and the thread is insane for the level of seriousness/investment that Palmar has shown). Second, his switch to a townread on Tumblewood feels opportunistic, "he's playing just like last game" to "maybe he did roll town this game".
But it's by no means a great argument. So, yay.
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On February 17 2016 14:49 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 14:46 The Shining wrote:On February 17 2016 14:42 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 04:23 scott31337 wrote:
Palmar/Shape/Trfel leaning town
Rsoul/TT lighter not has hard but townside of null
GB/Noon/Shining/SL - not enough information
Tumble/Breshke leaning mafia since Tumble looks just like his last game I played with him - and Breshke should have more
light and shining and it's just not there.
Eden usually shits town rainbows but there's a lot of fluff in his filter - so I'm still on the fence on him - wouldn't be the lynch today ye no explanation that's what i remembered Ah yeah the no explanation is questionable. I dont want to give him an out here but you have approx the same filter length as someone else higher up on his town list, Shape. Maybe he doesn't think you're quite spamming yet? Scott, are these 2 spamming? -_- > doesn't want to give him an out > proceeds to give him an out i already asked for an explanation
Rip. I'm also tired. There's another reasoning behind my question, though. But ya he should def start with explanations. It's also not that much of an out, since you already mentioned him calling your spam anti-town or scummy. Who gave him the out first? Outception.
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On February 17 2016 14:50 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 14:45 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 14:40 rsoultin wrote:
nh
lol is it awful that i'm more happy with the later reads than the first ones? the play-by-play summaries of shape and tt were painful -flicks shining-
also -shakes fist at damdy- i want a scott filter!
lemme see if i can find the post again...it's basically that i'm used to scott scumreading me come hell or high water for being spammy -_- which ye i'm failing at again this game so i have no clue how it's different this time. he always thinks my "spam" is scummy or at best anti-town blah posting this late is making me lose my train of thought palmar i agree on more or less...i don't see him as a d1 lynch more because of who he is than anything else tt was underwhelming for me, so that kinda lines up if i didn't microsleep too much through the summary lol >< your reads seem okayish tbh (more or less close to where i'm sitting) though the play-by-play gives me pause just cuz...ye, you and jeering about your shit wall of texts before that i have a tendency to townread you for when you're scum >< evil one Lmao yeah the tldr on TT was underwhelming, lots of TRs, no scumreads but confident we'll lynch scum becuz he's found so many town. Ignoring the play by play aspect of my read on Shape, though, do you agree or disagree with the weird flop read on Tumble? Like, the posts happen so close to eachother, sometimes within the same post. LOL @ being TRd as scum for WoTs. I only have 2 scum games but I've squeezed them into town games, too. I don't want to self-meta but my alignment should become more evident AFTER my catch-up WoTs. But I can understand where you're coming from with this since the last time we played together was I believe my last scum game(Drams?)
ye heh >< you fooled me both times (drams, student V) with WoTs...i guess i'm just prime for falling for a shining
i'd need to check that on shape re: tumble...prob in the morning, though objectively speaking i dunnae how alignment indicative waffling actually is. i'd gen say town is more reactive than scum. i already don't like shape though, and have a townlean on tumble, so -shrugs-
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and shining takes a huge lead i the lame Olympics
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One more thing. It seems that scott31337's strongest scumread should be Breshke. But scott31337 didn't say anything about Breshke between his latest post and his initial read. In between, Breshke made many posts. Doesn't seem like a lot of direction.......
Anyway, good night.
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On February 17 2016 14:53 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 14:49 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 14:46 The Shining wrote:On February 17 2016 14:42 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 04:23 scott31337 wrote:
Palmar/Shape/Trfel leaning town
Rsoul/TT lighter not has hard but townside of null
GB/Noon/Shining/SL - not enough information
Tumble/Breshke leaning mafia since Tumble looks just like his last game I played with him - and Breshke should have more
light and shining and it's just not there.
Eden usually shits town rainbows but there's a lot of fluff in his filter - so I'm still on the fence on him - wouldn't be the lynch today ye no explanation that's what i remembered Ah yeah the no explanation is questionable. I dont want to give him an out here but you have approx the same filter length as someone else higher up on his town list, Shape. Maybe he doesn't think you're quite spamming yet? Scott, are these 2 spamming? -_- > doesn't want to give him an out > proceeds to give him an out i already asked for an explanation Rip. I'm also tired. There's another reasoning behind my question, though. But ya he should def start with explanations. It's also not that much of an out, since you already mentioned him calling your spam anti-town or scummy. Who gave him the out first? Outception.
lol touche, though i'd argue i at least wasn't uber-direct about it
@truffle, thanks for the look...and lol @ scumreads for agreeing with your reads. i understand but it's still funny >>
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On February 17 2016 14:41 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 14:37 sicklucker wrote:On February 17 2016 13:02 The Shining wrote:On February 17 2016 12:03 Trfel wrote:On February 16 2016 06:13 rsoultin wrote:On February 16 2016 06:12 The Shining wrote:On February 16 2016 06:04 sicklucker wrote:
Dear diary
Today I woke up exited to play a game of mafia! Then I looked at the playerlist .. and I was how do you say it. Scared of spam and having alot to read. I also had alot of anxiety about jat calling me names i'm a very fragile emotional person. I hope gb has time because last game he was useless and now I here hes not going have much time again. But you /in'd last. The player list was the same when you did. Why are you just now experiencing these fears? he is the hero town doesn't deserve shining-san ^^ keep up! Like, right after this, The Shining vanished until I asked him a question. And then vanished again. It feels like his will to play, his desire to be involved, stopped after he got townread. See what I'm getting at? Hello. Phone post. I was townread? By who? I just got home and have a few hours to kill before bedtime, stuff I will do. Impressed you will be. I do like how Trfel brings up my Monday/Tuesday meta excuse but then starts pushing me because I made a few posts after realizing this game started, then went to live life. Seems counter intuitive to bring it up, call it NAI, then push it because I'm not here on days I'm known to not be here. did he mention it before or after i brought it up? The Mon/Tues thing? Before. He was the first one to ask about it after one of my first posts iirc
i think ibrought it up tho... thats kinda my point unless i missed a post
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No one's thoughts feel coherent, which means that my thoughts probably aren't coherent, so it's time for me to get some sleep. See you all in 8-9 hours.
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oh and rstoul pointed out eden speculates on miller shit as town. I remember he did that as mafia once... on my team. Then i think he claimed scum at some point cant remember was awile ago
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On February 17 2016 11:29 Breshke wrote:ehh I have a problem with these two posts. Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 09:27 Shapelog wrote:On February 16 2016 09:17 Trfel wrote:Shapelog, why do you not care that I caught mafia  I am actually writing a reply to your questions Lol. But about Eden, tbh not a whole lot to go off of (I mean like 4 posts not counting the miller softclaim joke). In those two posts: Set up speculation, Rosukl Town read, Asking if people abject to Miller claiming, Miller claiming. Like why would mafia push Miller claiming AND while speculating that a DT is in a game? Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 23:19 Shapelog wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Sick Mafia Stat that while it has not…] +
OK so this is great. I was reading R-Girl's Filter and This pop into my head. This is comptlely Off topic and I highly suggest to you to NOT reply to this. IT will clog up the thread and my filter with useless crap. Only thing worth noting is the end.
SUPPOSE THAT THE MILLERS are NOT Aware. Cheekey right? I mean we have had everyone post and no one claimed. What if mafia posts a list like Eden's. Saying the Millers sound aware (while knowing somehow either by mafia knowledge or host question). and THEN having their partner claim Miller? Sure, they might run into problems later on. But that would be a amazing play.
IMPORTANT INFO
So, While I am all for Millers to claim if they are aware. I think we need to be careful since we do not actually know if Millers are really Millers. And if we have a DT, they can not check. Further more, we need to see if there is any associative behavior with the person who claims Miller and with people like Eden who assumes Millers are aware.
the first one shows meaningful insight into why edens "setup speculation" wasn't scummy. This makes me think that he has obviously thought about what eden is saying and realised millers are self aware. then the second post he suddenly backtracks and says a bunch of words about not much. I know dumbtells almost always come from town and mafia hardly ever fake them but this isn't really a dumbtell because it isnt about the mafia roles. Like I don't get how the same person wrote these two posts. Scum lean on Shape
This is actually a really good point.
I thought that tinfoil was off, but I was thinking more because it was silly to keep talking about the miller stuff when nobody claimed. Also if Eden was mafia I'd imagine he would have just claimed Miller himself and let us sort out that they are in fact aware. + Show Spoiler +ok actually I have no idea if Eden would do that as scum (never played with the guy/gal before), but I'm pretty sure I would have
Ugh, I didn't want to have to go look at Shapes mafia filter, but I'm getting the feeling I may need to.
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On February 17 2016 11:33 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 11:28 Trfel wrote:
I thought you're not lynching Breshke because he is a good devil's advocate?
In your above post, don't you imply that you not lynching Breshke has bearing on Palmar's alignment? (ie his main scumreads are town, and you don't like this) But if I am correct in your reason for not lynching Breshke, why would you be surprised that Palmar doesn't care about this reason if he is town? pfft i'm not lynching breshke because when he's a good devil's advocate and looking at everything from all sides he pretty much invariably is town -beats with a wet noodle- palmar having different reads from me is not related to why i'm reading anyone the way i am; we're just both tone-type players and i've noticed that our reads have been converging more and more as time goes on, even if for different reasons tbf though usually when we're both town and we differ he's right >> bastard
This is prob the first thing I've seen from Rsoul that I totally agree with.
The town!Bre that I know is never on the frontlines directing town and pushing the game forward, he's more the quite thoughtful guy in the corner who catches stuff that gets overlooked. His activity and the fact that he tends to post small snippets rather than huge cases and reads often makes it hard for people to read him.
Every post I've seen from Bre this game looks like town!Bre to me. Asking questions with purpose, pointing out stuff that others miss (like the last post of his I quoted), and he's showing efforts at solving the game.
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On February 17 2016 11:40 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 11:28 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 11:22 Trfel wrote:
I wasn't asking for an explanation, I was mentioning something that I thought was funny....
Anyway, I'm nearly caught up, so then I can go through the thread and once again completely fail to find mafia! Looking forward to it!
Does anyone have someone they'd like me to give additional attention to? Maybe sicklucker and Palmar? lol >< no one is commenting on my shape toneread it's making me itch you think hes town right? nothing new me and everyone aparently does
Why do you think shape is town?
I remember you declaring it before, but I didn't really see why.
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On February 17 2016 12:00 sicklucker wrote:Trefel your a pretty cool guy and the only one who even voted anyone AT ALL besides me and maybe kush. You two are likely to be town for that i think. I mean ive never been in a game where no one at all voted tho so i donno.. I may not be doing much but I at least voted early for information to you konw.. + Show Spoiler +
I've never understood why there is this idea that people should vote early and often. Like i get the idea behind pressure votes but especially D1 votes are usually a hodgepodge with everyone being all over the place until the last couple hours.
Well for me personally I find I tend to play better when I'm not trying to drop a vote with the first decent looking case that is brought up and instead focus a little more on my reads. Again, this is moreso in regards to D1-2. Later in the game it's easier and probably better to get the ball rolling with votes since there is already plenty to go on.
Sorry, /rant
I'd like to know what(if any) info you got from your vote SL.
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On February 17 2016 12:00 rsoultin wrote:
can we lynch shape?
-bats lashes at-
alternatively, if we're lynching players with pre-game excuses, gb is always fun to lynch lol
Didn't you suggest GB play even though he said he was going to have issues with time this game?
Although now that I think about it, if GB's play thus far is any indication of how he will continue to play he might not be a terrible Plynch even if he does flip town.
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On February 17 2016 13:02 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 12:03 Trfel wrote:On February 16 2016 06:13 rsoultin wrote:On February 16 2016 06:12 The Shining wrote:On February 16 2016 06:04 sicklucker wrote:
Dear diary
Today I woke up exited to play a game of mafia! Then I looked at the playerlist .. and I was how do you say it. Scared of spam and having alot to read. I also had alot of anxiety about jat calling me names i'm a very fragile emotional person. I hope gb has time because last game he was useless and now I here hes not going have much time again. But you /in'd last. The player list was the same when you did. Why are you just now experiencing these fears? he is the hero town doesn't deserve shining-san ^^ keep up! Like, right after this, The Shining vanished until I asked him a question. And then vanished again. It feels like his will to play, his desire to be involved, stopped after he got townread. See what I'm getting at? Hello. Phone post. I was townread? By who? I just got home and have a few hours to kill before bedtime, stuff I will do. Impressed you will be. I do like how Trfel brings up my Monday/Tuesday meta excuse but then starts pushing me because I made a few posts after realizing this game started, then went to live life. Seems counter intuitive to bring it up, call it NAI, then push it because I'm not here on days I'm known to not be here.
OMG Scum claim right there. Implying that life is more important than this game...
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On February 17 2016 13:58 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 13:47 The Shining wrote:On February 17 2016 13:43 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 12:45 scott31337 wrote:Catching up --- On February 17 2016 08:14 Trfel wrote:
Oh yeah, and people get mad at me when I say who I'm suspicious of without posting reasons.
The Shining still hasn't come back, to me this makes his posts feel a bit dry. Suddenly vanishing, in addition to still not having come back, while seeming to be interested in his sicklucker read earlier, feels off to me, however it's quite early in the game and it's possible that he's just suddenly busy or a bit disinterested for some reason. Don't forget about the Shining's Monday/Tuesday no net thing. On February 17 2016 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
not lynching the truffle ^^ he sounded like a truffle
what does a truffle sound like?
truffle sounds like a truffle in this game
#circularreasoningftw
also not lynching a breshke...so i saw the points on shapelog, eden...the thing that was bugging me about his posting was it almost seemed over the top, like he's trying to sound cheery when he isn't. also, he clearly didn't understand what you were getting at lol >< if he didn't realize that any millers in the game would be aware millers
disclaimer: i don't think i've ever played with shapelog, so the toneread is meh probably. for those who have played with him, is he always this OMG OMG sunshine!!! hahahaha!
2nd disclaimer: dumbtell lol...of course scum can also fail to read the op but eh Why don't you want to lynch breshke? You really didn't say anything here. I think you're aware of that... On February 17 2016 11:11 Tumblewood wrote:
@rsoul : I the only people I have any real insight on are Trfel, Eden (town), Tictock, kush (townlean), you, Shapelog (null), Palmar, SL (scum).
The other four have been too absent for my tastes... Breshke has been moderately active, stay tuned for a filter dive. So this post from TW is slightly better - he gives his thoughts on what he's thinking - and beyond Breshke since he doesn't know his posting very well, I can agree with quite a bit of it. Maybe TW did roll town this game. On February 17 2016 11:17 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 11:10 Trfel wrote:On February 17 2016 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
not lynching the truffle ^^ he sounded like a truffle
what does a truffle sound like?
truffle sounds like a truffle in this game
#circularreasoningftw And you say that my reads are useless... lol yeah it's like your palmar one i know ^^ i can explain it more...essentially you approached eden in a way that meets my understanding of your core personality, in the way that you're apologetic and deferential and, yes, self-depreciating this is something i see way more often in your town games than in your scum games (though i don't remember ever seeing it in your scum games lol >< except maybe in a wall of text buried somewhere) like, seriously >< you sit there and tell me in your last game where your reads were mostly spot on that you're doing something wrong because you can't get people to listen to you? lol where is the fun TL mafia arrogance the rest of us have? but it's what makes truffle a truffle Thank you for explaining this -  I'd move TW slightly up and maybe noon - and I thought I had too many scumreads like Palmar... The nulls are well still nully - but I think GB has ample opportunity to come back, and Shining should be back in the morning too. also explained bresh, but basically it's a metaread in that when he's looking at things from all sides and voicing the opposite viewpoint (i.e. devil's advocate) he's pretty much always town...plus just a joy to have around but that's another matter altogether ^^ -pokes- i want to know why my nemesis is townreading me...has the world turned inside-out and upside-down? -throws things at shining- he's got a point. suck it up. you were around when you said you wouldn't be, but then poofed, so ye. i'm more interested in your reads once you catch up with the thread of dinky He would have a point if he hadn't called it NAI beforehand, but then changed his mind because I made like 1 serious post and didnt have time to follow it up. I'm working on a reads post, believe in the shine, I'm actually planning on trying this game because I'm tired of certain people that I've been warned for cursing at constantly calling me useless ^^ How great it would be if he's town and gets carried by me. First, I didn't call you useless Second, if I were convinced you were scum, I'd be voting for you Third, smileys are great Fourth, please, go ahead and carry me, that would also be great Not quite as great as smileys, though Fifth, you're misrepresenting my argument, and I've already said what I think about that But it's fine, since I don't have a very strong argument anyway, please feel free to do your own thing
I suddenly feel like Disformation hacked your account.
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On February 17 2016 16:16 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 12:00 sicklucker wrote:Trefel your a pretty cool guy and the only one who even voted anyone AT ALL besides me and maybe kush. You two are likely to be town for that i think. I mean ive never been in a game where no one at all voted tho so i donno.. I may not be doing much but I at least voted early for information to you konw.. + Show Spoiler + I've never understood why there is this idea that people should vote early and often. Like i get the idea behind pressure votes but especially D1 votes are usually a hodgepodge with everyone being all over the place until the last couple hours. Well for me personally I find I tend to play better when I'm not trying to drop a vote with the first decent looking case that is brought up and instead focus a little more on my reads. Again, this is moreso in regards to D1-2. Later in the game it's easier and probably better to get the ball rolling with votes since there is already plenty to go on. Sorry, /rant I'd like to know what(if any) info you got from your vote SL.
nothing because no one voted
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