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On February 06 2016 02:57 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 02:50 disformation wrote:
And why didnt you vote Palmar before? Waiting for the thread consent? I started at 3am CET, I crashed somewhere between 8/8:30. This is day 1. And if you look at the votes, consolidation on day 1 is a mess. If you're town you want to consolidate. If I - or others - can come up with preferred lynches based on things I feel make them mafia, be it meta (yes it can be used properly, I didn't ignore your post), or be it lack of direction (see marv's last post), then I don't see what the problem is. People also had trouble understanding my previous arguments against VA, so I re-presented it ignoring myself (bias). I feel there's adequate cause for being scummy. That said, I want to ask you disformation, why you are not asking this same question of VA. He has said dick all prior to my "why Palmar could be mafia post". (Yes I realise I'm voting WITH him on Palmar, but that's besides the point, other townreads are doing so, and we can see based on the flip what is going on. I am confident in a red flip and then we can evaluate the context of how people got there.)
Nice try deflecting my questions by asking me about VA.
town!NM considers point from multiple angles. Don't see that in your approach of Palmar. And yes you ignored my post. You also didn't answer my question why some meta points on Palmar apply and others don't. Makes me think even more that you don't believe your meta read on Palmar.
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On February 06 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can also agree with kush and policy moosydoosy for excessive emoticon use AKA the rsoultin law VA bestest buddy. Please vote Kush. This is lazy town Palmar. Kill him D3 if he is alive and still trash.
How are you sure that Palmar can't replicate this as scum?
And what are your thoughts on marv's point about him not having direction?
The reason I ask you this is from what I previously read, marv/JAT, you seemed to be in a lot of conversation at times, together. So I think you are in a best position to evaluate this.
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Vote Count - Day 1
Palmar (4): marvellosity, justanothertownie, VayneAuthority, NocturneMage
nooniansoong (2): Koshi, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Rels
ritoky (2): boxerfred, Chezinu,
justanothertownie (1): Palmar
VayneAuthority (1):MoosyDoosy
Onegu (1):, nooniansoong
Zyrre (1): darthfoley
NocturneMage (1),disformation disformation
Disformation (0): Chezinu,Chezinu
MoosyDoosy (0): nooniansoong
Not Voting (4): Damdred, Onegu, Zyrre, ritoky,
At this time, Palmar is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
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disformation, my last point was because it's a double standard in how you are applying "thread sentiment" between myself and VA.
Also you want to talk about Dark Tournament (Noon, pay attention please, I think this also answers some of your concern on my case too) - even in Dark Tournament day 2, you remember when HTS got lynched. Palmar was lazy as fuck that game but HE STILL HAD DIRECTION. He came in and used his "lazy filter criteria" to correctly place the vote on HTS.
Even if you don't like my case, even if you don't like me, you cannot ignore marv's logic.
HE HAD MORE DIRECTION ON A LAZY DAY IN DARK TOURNAMENT THAN HE DOES HERE.
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On February 06 2016 02:59 NocturneMage wrote:EBWOP (at disformation): Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh and ##vote: Palmar
He is supposed to be my day 1 antithesis, the pinnacle of good day 1 play. where is that here Read VAs filter. ZERO mention of Palmar and this timing was well after my post/others' discussion. Ask him that too.
has the nocturnemage ever heard of sleep by any chance? Of course I wasn't around for 250+ posts when I'm sleeping. I really can't understand your constant antagonizing, making a case on me is fine but these constant asinine nitpicks are insane. I really don't understand.
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On February 06 2016 02:47 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 01:09 nooniansoong wrote:On February 06 2016 01:05 marvellosity wrote:On February 06 2016 01:01 nooniansoong wrote:nvm im towning zyrre. On February 04 2016 08:25 Zyrre wrote:
Sweet, I like being town. A lot less pressure. I don't see him being the type of player to say this as scum. Not saying ritoky is scummy, after reading his later posts I actually think he is more town. Still doesnt make NM's reasoning better though. organic nuanced reads here are you on drugs? this entire post is nonsense 1 I don't expect zyrre to roll scum, then start thinking up mindgamey things to say about how great it feels to be town. Someone like ritoky would do this, someone liek zyrre wouldn't. 2 HIs read of ritoky is changing as he is reading. He's thinking deep about NM's argument. Guaranteed town. This is one of the reasons Zyrre should be in the 50/50 or "leave it to inv" category. The other reason he should also be in the 50/50 category is that there is soemthing in his "shitty" post that everyone is going on about. Yes, it's bad. Yes, marvellosity has drawn a comparison between the 2010 post and this one. But there's one thing that is worthy of consideration and that's lack of time. First sentence in Zyrre's post mentions he was (paraphrasing) pressed for time to play. The town perspective here is that if someone doesn't have much time to play their reads are not going to be so good - in fact their reads are not going to be good as either alignment, really - and whatever sticks out to them sticks out to them as they are reading. The "game is hard" argument (subsequent post) has been used by people from both alignments, and quite frankly he's not the only one to have said this. I still want to engage him if he's around through end of cycle. If he should be mafia, and he gets lynched (seeing as he's likely to be a competing wagon), we get possible information on his partners. If people aren't voting Koshi or VA, then Palmar is the way to go today. Again, as I skimmed through, whoever mentioned the lazy argument in his favour I'm not buying it. As I said for Moosy Doosy laziness/not playing is a meta/behaviour/whatever phrasing you want to use that is easily replicated. Also having played Dark Tournament, I understand Palmar is not a player who plays or is active on weekends. This is not alignment indicative - judge him on the output so far. And as such I'm voting him.
Koshi will not be lynched today.
I doubt VA will be lynched. I would need a pretty convincing case to seriously consider lynching him over some other dudes.
A vote on Palmar is a vote well placed.
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On February 06 2016 02:43 Zyrre wrote:
Marv, the biggest difference I see in my filters is activity. I think I was just more confident as it was a newbie game.
Still, it was one game 2.5 years ago. I dont even remember it.
Do you have an opinion on Palmar? One way or another? Do you have an opinion on the people (other than previously mentioned) who are voting him?
Let's start there.
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Which is exactly what I did JAT.
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On February 06 2016 03:13 NocturneMage wrote:
Which is exactly what I did JAT.
I know. I just wanted to emphasize this once again.
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On February 06 2016 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 03:13 NocturneMage wrote:
Which is exactly what I did JAT. I know. I just wanted to emphasize this once again.
I do not want to vote with NM.
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On February 06 2016 03:21 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 03:13 NocturneMage wrote:
Which is exactly what I did JAT. I know. I just wanted to emphasize this once again. I do not want to vote with NM.
I don't care. Palmar is the leading wagon. You will either have to convince me why NM is mafia or why you think Palmar is town. This is a copout.
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On February 06 2016 03:07 NocturneMage wrote:
disformation, my last point was because it's a double standard in how you are applying "thread sentiment" between myself and VA.
Also you want to talk about Dark Tournament (Noon, pay attention please, I think this also answers some of your concern on my case too) - even in Dark Tournament day 2, you remember when HTS got lynched. Palmar was lazy as fuck that game but HE STILL HAD DIRECTION. He came in and used his "lazy filter criteria" to correctly place the vote on HTS.
Even if you don't like my case, even if you don't like me, you cannot ignore marv's logic.
HE HAD MORE DIRECTION ON A LAZY DAY IN DARK TOURNAMENT THAN HE DOES HERE.
This isn't about me liking you or your case, this about me thinking your approach to this is super scumy.
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Bleh. Reading Palmar's filter again.
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On February 06 2016 03:03 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:On February 06 2016 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can also agree with kush and policy moosydoosy for excessive emoticon use AKA the rsoultin law VA bestest buddy. Please vote Kush. This is lazy town Palmar. Kill him D3 if he is alive and still trash. How are you sure that Palmar can't replicate this as scum? And what are your thoughts on marv's point about him not having direction? The reason I ask you this is from what I previously read, marv/JAT, you seemed to be in a lot of conversation at times, together. So I think you are in a best position to evaluate this.
I am not sure. If Palmar didn't omgus JAT and then left I wouldn't even consider him as possible mafia. Palmar as town can be shit and 100% afk. I have played more than enough times with Palmar to know this.
If we vote Palmar and he flips town we just lost an important player for nothing. And I wouldn't even be surprised if it happened. Pure coin flip lynch and results can be disastrous.
But if people want to do it I am not opposing the lynch vocally.
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I'm gonna step up and be a town leader here. Guys, we need to lynch Onegu. He needs to get lynched. Everyone join my wagon immediately so we can get a claim.
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On February 06 2016 03:31 nooniansoong wrote:
lynch onegu
You are aware that you are a way better policy lynch than Onegu, right?
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On February 06 2016 03:32 justanothertownie wrote:You are aware that you are a way better policy lynch than Onegu, right?
um hellz no dude. I put in like 5 times the effort of onegu.
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On February 06 2016 03:32 nooniansoong wrote:
I'm gonna step up and be a town leader here. Guys, we need to lynch Onegu. He needs to get lynched. Everyone join my wagon immediately so we can get a claim.
Not going to happen.
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How am I a better plynch than Onegu???? like I'm probably the worst plynch out of all the people who are good plynches.
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EPT
