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I have read the invite game that was going on a while ago where chez was representing tl.net. | ||
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On February 05 2016 06:06 disformation wrote: I have read the invite game that was going on a while ago where chez was representing tl.net. Link This one. | ||
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On February 05 2016 06:25 Rels wrote: Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot". I agree and am kinda confused by this. | ||
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On February 05 2016 06:29 marvellosity wrote: no you're right. i dunno what's going on with that either :> well, call him scum for being indecipherable (ish). which you didnt Probably getting trolled by koshi, palmar and chezinu then. -.- | ||
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On February 05 2016 06:34 Chezinu wrote: Confusion is of the darkside... I thought speaking in absolutes is of the dark side? | ||
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On February 05 2016 06:36 Chezinu wrote: Welcome to the Brown Side, where Colors Do Matter! Since you are welcoming I assume this is very much a good thing? | ||
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Great. xD | ||
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On February 05 2016 06:50 Onegu wrote: Wait there is a chance to troll? ##Vote Disformation Bit late to that party.  On February 05 2016 07:24 Damdred wrote: I have a list of 4-6 people Moosey Nm Palmar Zy Kush Onegu I probably would take palmar out for today because a few things made me go maybe palmar is town. But pretty under whelming to a point. And I understand the rest are a mix of policy, I'd rather not lynch kush today probably. If I had to lynch just one person I'd policy zyrre for faking excitement about being town and not doing anything in that time. The others can be good as town and in some cases should be given time. Kinda in a similar spot. Got a various degree of town vibe from most of the ppl that were active in the thread, leaving me without any solid scum read and a bit of paranoia towards my town reads. But I agree, super strange that Zyrre didn't show up at all today. Also MoosyDoosy hasn't posted a single post yet. *rolleyes* | ||
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On the other hand I am not really feeling this NVT reaction test thing and he might be trying to discredit NM. *scratches head* Can anyone or did anyone confirm that VA does a lot of reaction tests or stuff? | ||
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On February 04 2016 12:50 NocturneMage wrote: I'm looking at the interactions between disformation and you - I was trying to answer for myself whether his read on you was scummy/trustworthy, not my read on you. You are looking okay I think so far. I'm trying to take a closer look at disformation. I think that taking a closer look thing hasn't happened yet. Just sayin'. | ||
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On February 05 2016 08:05 Damdred wrote: That zyrre post is so bad for so many reasons I got parroting, looks constructed and pushing/scum reading the most convenient target in noon. Also the timing of that post + lotsa excuses. Did I miss something? On February 05 2016 08:06 ritoky wrote: my town is something like: ritoky, rels, jat, disfo, darth maybe town is like: damdred, marv, koshi, kush fuck you is: boxerfred and i think there's probably a mafia between VA and NM. Gut agrees with one scum between VA and NM. Head can't figure out which one is more likely. | ||
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i am pretty sure nm is scum. will explain later.  [b]##vote: NocturneMage[\b] hint: why would someone who really does not like meta make a huge meta case he probablx does not believe in. | ||
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On February 05 2016 20:27 justanothertownie wrote: Why would a mafia who said he dislikes meta make a meta case? he did the same in nsm18. | ||
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On February 04 2016 13:07 NocturneMage wrote: If you mean MY meta reads, I try and stick to people that I play a bit more often with. And even then I'm under the 10 or wahtever game threshold to really make that a great read, so I generally defer to other shit. If you mean others' meta reads on people I don't really trust them, and I use interactions or other ways of evaluating people. Base line is: after him posting this I don't think he would believe in a meta read as the sole base for a read. Especially when he refers to a lot of games he didn't played in as he did in his case on Palmar: + Show Spoiler + On February 05 2016 15:45 NocturneMage wrote: Why I have a bad feeling Palmar could be mafia Palmar - read the following games for a compare/contrast: Tropical Storm, Down Under 3, Generic Boring. - In Generic Boring, he was dead wrong everywhere but he was assertive as all hell, was n1ed - Tropical Storm, looks like one right read, one wrong one (Damdred/rsoultin) but here, he goes pushing rsoultin on voting record, and is adamant he knew when to drop a townread on someone/knowing whom to sheep, not seeing that here. Important because a number of people in reading this thread are saying "game is hard" to some extent. They all can't be mafia. A cursory look through Palmar's filter - no strong town reads (i.e. I would sheep so and so) - Down Under 3 - Here, another example of one of his "absolutist" posts. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490661-mini-mafia-down-under-3?page=52#1026 Checking OP, all but one of these are wrong. Note: I purposely ignored PYP because a) it was a themed game b) multiple mafia teams The big contrast for me is tone. I'm seeing a lot of conditionals in this game (i.e. bf might be mafia), and a lot of absolutes in the above three games. Like he's so sure of himself even when he's wrong. The one thing I notice is his main involvement with JAT/marv/Koshi - two of which I'm townreading. Leads into the big contrast is his normal meta of lynching the inactives, the scummy players, etc. I'm looking for a push or even a trifle of anything against the sheer number of lower content players or even (almost universally?) scumread/discussed myself. Nothing. From Tropical Storm - and I know he applied this in PYP Finally I re-read his Outlaw Mafia filter for day 1 to refresh his day 1 scum play (go to his filter - read pages 1-3, day 1 ends at page 3) - and I'll be honest - his game so far here is a lot closer to his Day 1 play in Outlaw. I think people should read it - there's a lot of missing town tells that were present in the three games I discussed above. He is mainly talking about Tropical Storm, Down Under 3, Generic Boring. Three games he didn't play in. Compare that to his opinion about meta reads. Makes doubly no sense. In Outlaw Mafia town!NocturneMage mentions meta in a few places, but only refers to Dark Tournament where he had recently played together with a few ppl that were in Outlaw as well (Palmar/The Shining). More importantly: 90% of his arguments are based on logic and what actually happened in Outlaw. What gives me a bit of a pause is that town!NocturneMage did use a similar meta approach to highlight that meta did not make LS town that game. But he kinda used meta to defuse a meta argument, which makes it more believable. Link to his meta post on LS. In NSM 18 scum!NocturneMage did post day 1 that he really does not like meta. Link. And then proceeds to use a lot of meta based arguments later that game. Link Link Link Link Granted in hindsight his post this game looks way more than his approach in Dark Tournament than in NSM 18. Still don't think he does honestly believe his case on Palmar though. Why would scum!NM post a meta case after saying he didn't like meta? Well, why would town!NM post a meta read he can't possibly believe? Well, the post sure looks like he did a lot of work digging up old stuff... TBH after finding his meta thing on LS in Dark Tournament I am less sure about him being scum for this, but I am still not liking him this game a single bit. So yeah, still think he has a solid chance of being scum. Will reread his filter later, when I am back at home. | ||
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Comments on my meta thing on NM? Not 100% sure if I just want my shitty "trap" to have worked, but I can't seriously wrap my head around why town!NM would try to make a meta based case and then not really go anywhere with it. Like sure he has a list of ppl he would lynch, but he isn't really pushing any of them. | ||
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No clue why anyone would give me town credits for. How do you spend these things? | ||
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