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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 14:15 GMT
#821
Oo here are some scum tips for you bro.
Don't make nai mega posts this late in the game. Instead be more conversational. You whole team is making these long ass posts and it looks terrible for them.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 14:16 GMT
#822
Ignore that above post lol
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 03 2016 14:36 GMT
#823
On January 03 2016 23:09 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 22:47 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 03 2016 19:36 mderg wrote:
On January 03 2016 09:54 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 03 2016 02:42 mderg wrote:
On January 03 2016 02:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 03 2016 01:45 mderg wrote:
On January 03 2016 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Mderg, what's your read on Koshi?

Koshi is always town. He's not in this game, though.


ROFL I meant Onegu

He's meh. Not much actual content coming from him and he isn't trying that much to bring the discussion forwards. For the most part he was just going after the supposed scumslip. His extreme insistence on lynching Fidei for the scumslip makes me think he's town but I wouldn't be surprised, if he was scum.

So, probably town but I don't want to be the one to make the decision on him.


Why is his tunnel probably town?

I simply wouldn't expect scum to tunnel so heavily for IMO stupid reasons. So yeah, I'm not very confident in this read.


So he's too Scummy to be scum?

I would rather say his play is too dumb to scum. That goes in a similar direction, though.



To scummy to be scum or too dumb to be scum is a terrible reason in every game for every player.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 03 2016 14:37 GMT
#824
@NM if you scum read both me and GB why are you voting me over BlowingGear?


Try TL Mafia!!!
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 03 2016 14:48 GMT
#825
On January 03 2016 23:36 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 23:09 mderg wrote:
On January 03 2016 22:47 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 03 2016 19:36 mderg wrote:
On January 03 2016 09:54 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 03 2016 02:42 mderg wrote:
On January 03 2016 02:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 03 2016 01:45 mderg wrote:
On January 03 2016 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Mderg, what's your read on Koshi?

Koshi is always town. He's not in this game, though.


ROFL I meant Onegu

He's meh. Not much actual content coming from him and he isn't trying that much to bring the discussion forwards. For the most part he was just going after the supposed scumslip. His extreme insistence on lynching Fidei for the scumslip makes me think he's town but I wouldn't be surprised, if he was scum.

So, probably town but I don't want to be the one to make the decision on him.


Why is his tunnel probably town?

I simply wouldn't expect scum to tunnel so heavily for IMO stupid reasons. So yeah, I'm not very confident in this read.


So he's too Scummy to be scum?

I would rather say his play is too dumb to scum. That goes in a similar direction, though.



To scummy to be scum or too dumb to be scum is a terrible reason in every game for every player.

That's why I'm absolutely not confident in this read
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 16:07 GMT
#826
On January 03 2016 22:46 nooniansoong wrote:
Thanks for stepping in to explain it to the newbie, Mr mafia 😄


Post 815....that could come from either alignment. I've played enough newbies, I've seen rayn (as town) and ritoky (as mafia) and a few more in there make those suggestion type posts to newbies.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 16:10 GMT
#827
On January 03 2016 22:48 nooniansoong wrote:
Shape mderg onegu is my scumteam. So we basically agree nm.


No, not quite. It's possible I could be wrong somewhere, but my mind is right now Shape, Onegu, GB, with the latter two atm double bussing. Both need town cred, so the scum motivation makes sense, and so does the town motivation, but independent of associative reads, I have reasoning to scumread them both.

I thought mderg's last posts against GlowingBear were towny as it pointed out a discrepancy in prioritising his vote against what his sentiment was.

I know why you are reading mderg as scum fundamentally but what am I missing here? Meta? Should I hit the database then?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 16:25 GMT
#828
On January 03 2016 23:37 Onegu wrote:
@NM if you scum read both me and GB why are you voting me over BlowingGear?


I am scumreading both of you, there might be some associative stuff (unflipped, yes I realise this) with my other scumread, Shapelog, and GB's hesistancy to vote you indicates power role protection behaviour. Again, unflipped.

But

(1) I have independent reasons to scumread both of you individually.
(2) I have reasons that you might be a higher priority kill than GB. Admittedly associative, but they are there.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 16:27 GMT
#829
KMatt, I have a question. Let's say GlowingBear gets modkilled for whatever strange reason today.

Whom would you vote for now?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 03 2016 16:36 GMT
#830
Vote Count - Day 2


GlowingBear (3): Kmatt, Onegu, mderg
Onegu (3): GlowingBear, nooniansoong, NocturneMage
GiygaS (0) GlowingBear

Not Voting (4): Shapelog, The Shining, GiygaS, Fidei86

At this time, GlowingBear is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on Sunday, Jan 03 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 16:38 GMT
#831
It looks like GB owes responses to questions from GigyaS and myself, Fidei owes responses to myself as well. Granted it's a Sunday afternoon, let's hope people haven't been drinking like crazy all weekend.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 16:39 GMT
#832
Actually GB has been posting drunk in another ongoing game. On second thought...
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 03 2016 16:46 GMT
#833
On January 04 2016 01:10 NocturneMage wrote:
I know why you are reading mderg as scum fundamentally

Funnily enough I don't
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 03 2016 16:50 GMT
#834
On January 04 2016 01:27 NocturneMage wrote:
KMatt, I have a question. Let's say GlowingBear gets modkilled for whatever strange reason today.

Whom would you vote for now?


I would probably start looking into Noon more before placing that vote. The Onegu train seems to be going strong but I haven't been sold on him, while I have been picking up on that connection between GB and Noon. Admittedly with my hunt for GB I haven't been scrutinizing other players more and I ought to go do some more reading on the rest of the thread.

On that note, where is Shape? His sudden disappearance following the first night kill is rather suspicious. I can understand being out for New Year's, but it's been two full days now. I think I'm gonna have to join you on that scumread you have for him.
We CAN have nice things
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 16:59 GMT
#835
On January 04 2016 01:10 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 22:48 nooniansoong wrote:
Shape mderg onegu is my scumteam. So we basically agree nm.


No, not quite. It's possible I could be wrong somewhere, but my mind is right now Shape, Onegu, GB, with the latter two atm double bussing. Both need town cred, so the scum motivation makes sense, and so does the town motivation, but independent of associative reads, I have reasoning to scumread them both.

I thought mderg's last posts against GlowingBear were towny as it pointed out a discrepancy in prioritising his vote against what his sentiment was.

I know why you are reading mderg as scum fundamentally but what am I missing here? Meta? Should I hit the database then?


Mdergs point against gb was so obvious he doesn't get townpoints for that. Put your self in scums place. Would you think to jump on that post from gb? Of course.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 03 2016 17:17 GMT
#836
kush, simple question: what makes you think I'm scum?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 18:09 GMT
#837
On January 04 2016 02:17 mderg wrote:
kush, simple question: what makes you think I'm scum?


Why would I tell you? You aren't today's lynch. Telling you why you're scum at this point would be like giving you tips.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
January 03 2016 18:30 GMT
#838
I'm a bit concerned that nobody has really defended Onegu at all, but at this point if he's scum his scummates are probably trying to distance themselves from him. Also, GB is not the lynch today. I don't really like any of the points made against him.

##vote: Onegu
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 03 2016 18:37 GMT
#839
On January 04 2016 03:09 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 02:17 mderg wrote:
kush, simple question: what makes you think I'm scum?


Why would I tell you? You aren't today's lynch. Telling you why you're scum at this point would be like giving you tips.

This makes me think you don't actually have a good reason to scumread me.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 18:43 GMT
#840
On January 04 2016 03:37 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 03:09 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 04 2016 02:17 mderg wrote:
kush, simple question: what makes you think I'm scum?


Why would I tell you? You aren't today's lynch. Telling you why you're scum at this point would be like giving you tips.

This makes me think you don't actually have a good reason to scumread me.


Let's just say my reason for scumreading you isn't going to be some big thing that makes people say "ah ha" and convinces them.
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