• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:25
CET 18:25
KST 02:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT4Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up0ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)44Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker15
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed Gypsy to Korea Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Which units you wish saw more use in the game?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Yoga Therapist Training Online ZeroSpace Megathread What Game makes you happy and stress free? Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1860 users

Newbie Student Mafia XVIII - Page 43

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 41 42 43 44 45 69 Next
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 03 2016 18:46 GMT
#841
On January 04 2016 03:43 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 03:37 mderg wrote:
On January 04 2016 03:09 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 04 2016 02:17 mderg wrote:
kush, simple question: what makes you think I'm scum?


Why would I tell you? You aren't today's lynch. Telling you why you're scum at this point would be like giving you tips.

This makes me think you don't actually have a good reason to scumread me.


Let's just say my reason for scumreading you isn't going to be some big thing that makes people say "ah ha" and convinces them.

So it's a bad reason? Or nonexistent?
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 18:46 GMT
#842
GB still not back? Guess it's time to set priorities...

##unvote
##vote GlowingBear
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 18:46 GMT
#843
On January 04 2016 03:30 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm a bit concerned that nobody has really defended Onegu at all, but at this point if he's scum his scummates are probably trying to distance themselves from him. Also, GB is not the lynch today. I don't really like any of the points made against him.

##vote: Onegu


Can you read post 764 and get back to me?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 18:49 GMT
#844
On January 04 2016 01:59 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 01:10 NocturneMage wrote:
On January 03 2016 22:48 nooniansoong wrote:
Shape mderg onegu is my scumteam. So we basically agree nm.


No, not quite. It's possible I could be wrong somewhere, but my mind is right now Shape, Onegu, GB, with the latter two atm double bussing. Both need town cred, so the scum motivation makes sense, and so does the town motivation, but independent of associative reads, I have reasoning to scumread them both.

I thought mderg's last posts against GlowingBear were towny as it pointed out a discrepancy in prioritising his vote against what his sentiment was.

I know why you are reading mderg as scum fundamentally but what am I missing here? Meta? Should I hit the database then?


Mdergs point against gb was so obvious he doesn't get townpoints for that. Put your self in scums place. Would you think to jump on that post from gb? Of course.


Two questions:

(1) What makes mderg's actions exclusively mafia? When I skimmed GB's filter, you can see where GlowingBear expresses sentiment against mderg (confident we are hitting mafia) and an argument against Onegu where Onegu is exclusively mafia ("he cannot possibly believe what he is saying") so how can you eliminate either alignment looking at this and coming to the same conclusion? Am I making sense?

(2) The flip side to this question - why do you think GlowingBear is town?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 18:49 GMT
#845
On January 04 2016 03:30 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm a bit concerned that nobody has really defended Onegu at all, but at this point if he's scum his scummates are probably trying to distance themselves from him. Also, GB is not the lynch today. I don't really like any of the points made against him.

##vote: Onegu


There's no reason to defend him.
Take my scumteam...
Shape is MIA.
Mderg said he's probably town.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 18:51 GMT
#846
Or Noon, are you saying reading the filter is so obvious to come to that conclusion that he shouldn't get the townpoints? If true, then so.... But then that still poses the question - how do you arrive at any other conclusion?

Like if there's some metaread on mderg you have, that's great, but not having played with this person I don't really understand other than your surface level argument "he's looking town, but not acting in the best interests of town", that I get, but I'm trying to separate that argument from what you just said.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 18:53 GMT
#847
On January 04 2016 03:49 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 01:59 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 04 2016 01:10 NocturneMage wrote:
On January 03 2016 22:48 nooniansoong wrote:
Shape mderg onegu is my scumteam. So we basically agree nm.


No, not quite. It's possible I could be wrong somewhere, but my mind is right now Shape, Onegu, GB, with the latter two atm double bussing. Both need town cred, so the scum motivation makes sense, and so does the town motivation, but independent of associative reads, I have reasoning to scumread them both.

I thought mderg's last posts against GlowingBear were towny as it pointed out a discrepancy in prioritising his vote against what his sentiment was.

I know why you are reading mderg as scum fundamentally but what am I missing here? Meta? Should I hit the database then?


Mdergs point against gb was so obvious he doesn't get townpoints for that. Put your self in scums place. Would you think to jump on that post from gb? Of course.


Two questions:

(1) What makes mderg's actions exclusively mafia? When I skimmed GB's filter, you can see where GlowingBear expresses sentiment against mderg (confident we are hitting mafia) and an argument against Onegu where Onegu is exclusively mafia ("he cannot possibly believe what he is saying") so how can you eliminate either alignment looking at this and coming to the same conclusion? Am I making sense?

(2) The flip side to this question - why do you think GlowingBear is town?


My scumhunting method is this: I try to townread a player, and if I can't, I assume they're scum. It makes it hard to be convincing but I think it's the most reliable way to find scum.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 18:57 GMT
#848
Next thing I'll do is take a look at GB's filter and try to convince people he's town (if I still believe that myself)
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 18:58 GMT
#849
Your arguments so far against mderg is basically saying that he's towny on the surface. Let me read his filter again in entirety.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 18:58 GMT
#850
And your read on mderg is NOT a meta read, correct? If it is, then I will also check his games from the database.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 19:02 GMT
#851
On January 04 2016 03:58 NocturneMage wrote:
And your read on mderg is NOT a meta read, correct? If it is, then I will also check his games from the database.


It's not a metaread. I did check out two of his scum games from the database. And I found a similar depth to his scumreads on those games.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 03 2016 19:02 GMT
#852
Vote Count - Day 2


GlowingBear (4): Kmatt, Onegu, mderg, NocturneMage
Onegu (3): GlowingBear, nooniansoong, NocturneMage, Fidei86
GiygaS (0) GlowingBear

Not Voting (3): Shapelog, The Shining, GiygaS

At this time, GlowingBear is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on Sunday, Jan 03 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 19:09 GMT
#853
Page 1 of mderg's filter could come from either alignment. Mostly one-liners, indicates someone conversational, again either alignment. The scumread on you from him makes sense - if he's not familiar with your play (????) then it makes sense for him to call you hypocritical for calling a lynch when you don't play until d2.

From a scum motivation however, post 323 can be seen - you cannot expect someone to solve the game day 1. From a town motivation though you can also say that you aren't working towards finding a proper scum lynch.

The way I see it for my own standards is that if you cannot find a good lynch or compromise on a lynch early enough in the cycle THEN you go for the policy lynch.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 03 2016 19:09 GMT
#854
Hi
This is shapelogs girlfriend.

My Bf is in the ER again and has to get another surgery. He asked me to ask for a /replace or whatever that is.

Where do i do this at?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 19:10 GMT
#855
I honestly cannot figure out who I want to lynch today. I was so sure on kmatt until that megapost. Going to go over GB and Onegu's filters and the cases on them one more time, as it seems like the lynch will be one of those two.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 19:10 GMT
#856
On January 04 2016 04:09 Shapelog wrote:
Hi
This is shapelogs girlfriend.

My Bf is in the ER again and has to get another surgery. He asked me to ask for a /replace or whatever that is.

Where do i do this at?

D: get well soon shape
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 19:12 GMT
#857
On January 04 2016 04:09 Shapelog wrote:
Hi
This is shapelogs girlfriend.

My Bf is in the ER again and has to get another surgery. He asked me to ask for a /replace or whatever that is.

Where do i do this at?


Damn, I'm really sorry to hear about this. Give him our regards so he recovers quick. You need to PM Kita.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 03 2016 19:13 GMT
#858
On January 04 2016 04:09 Shapelog wrote:
Hi
This is shapelogs girlfriend.

My Bf is in the ER again and has to get another surgery. He asked me to ask for a /replace or whatever that is.

Where do i do this at?


I have notified the main host of this game kitaman27.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 03 2016 19:15 GMT
#859
On January 04 2016 04:10 GiygaS wrote:
I honestly cannot figure out who I want to lynch today. I was so sure on kmatt until that megapost. Going to go over GB and Onegu's filters and the cases on them one more time, as it seems like the lynch will be one of those two.


Even more confounding is both players have voted the other but have completely AFKed.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 03 2016 19:15 GMT
#860
On January 04 2016 04:12 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 04:09 Shapelog wrote:
Hi
This is shapelogs girlfriend.

My Bf is in the ER again and has to get another surgery. He asked me to ask for a /replace or whatever that is.

Where do i do this at?


Damn, I'm really sorry to hear about this. Give him our regards so he recovers quick. You need to PM Kita.


Just found his PM he sent earlier.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Prev 1 41 42 43 44 45 69 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Grubby 1811
Harstem 385
elazer 111
BRAT_OK 83
UpATreeSC 47
MindelVK 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32972
Sea 4386
Horang2 3214
Shuttle 1224
Mini 729
ggaemo 273
Mong 201
Backho 46
Aegong 39
sSak 35
[ Show more ]
scan(afreeca) 31
Rock 28
NaDa 7
Purpose 5
[sc1f]eonzerg 2
Dota 2
Gorgc6851
Dendi588
League of Legends
Rex43
Counter-Strike
fl0m4397
Other Games
FrodaN1735
hiko787
ceh9349
Hui .279
ToD252
Liquid`VortiX188
Sick169
ArmadaUGS106
XaKoH 81
QueenE73
Trikslyr55
C9.Mang023
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL40178
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 64
• LUISG 28
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV304
League of Legends
• Jankos4535
• TFBlade1115
Other Games
• Shiphtur296
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
7h 36m
Replay Cast
15h 36m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
18h 36m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 15h
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
1d 16h
KCM Race Survival
1d 16h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 18h
OSC
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-League Week 31
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.