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GargamelxD
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Iwasrobik
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Kaenu => Trfel. Wartruk => TT. kush => kush Vlad => NM ? Kush seemed sure and I see the similarities between the cold & logical tone as scum, but if Vlad is NM he either got super lazy or didn't have time to play, 'cause he proved he could be town leader as scum. No idea on Garga, Gold, unholyflare, saitama. | ||
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GargamelxD
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I typically get the opposite reaction from people suspecting me, so that gave me the impression of being just convenient at the time where you were able to switch your scumread to me (whom you correctly called town in the previous days when I actually played less). | ||
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Iwasrobik
190 Posts
On February 17 2016 18:56 GargamelxD wrote: So Robik the only reason you believed Warty was town was cause he tinfoild on you? I typically get the opposite reaction from people suspecting me, so that gave me the impression of being just convenient at the time where you were able to switch your scumread to me (whom you correctly called town in the previous days when I actually played less). Did you not read my post ? Where did he tinfoil me ? The "you're town 'cause you tinfoil me" was adressed to Kaenu. | ||
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Iwasrobik
190 Posts
On February 17 2016 18:53 GargamelxD wrote: I was suspicious of Keanu at the time cause among his reads he suspected Valdi so much over wartrukk which in my eyes didnt seem to be justified and thats what I meant with the ranting part. Kaenu was super undecided on Vlad, and soft defending him with "he's feeling town even though the AFK points to scum", so I have no idea what you are talking about. | ||
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Iwasrobik
190 Posts
On February 17 2016 18:12 Iwasrobik wrote: This is bullshit. Who is that "other scumread of mine that was the main force behind Valdi's lynch" you're talking about ? | ||
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GargamelxD
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On February 17 2016 19:00 Iwasrobik wrote: Kaenu was super undecided on Vlad, and soft defending him with "he's feeling town even though the AFK points to scum", so I have no idea what you are talking about. You would have if you read my points on keanu, anyway I had another impression. I thought he was covering Warty. | ||
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Iwasrobik
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Wait. You're talking about Kaenu here then. You're saying that it's weird that I scumread both Kaenu and Vald here: On February 13 2016 07:00 Iwasrobik wrote: Town: Kush Saimata Probably town: Wartruk Maybe town: Gargamel Scum: Keanu Valdiano Will explain in a little bit when I'm in front of my laptop During N1, because, Kaenu was the "main force behind Vlad's lynch". You cannot believe that for real. Kaenu at this point had only indicated Vlad as town. | ||
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GargamelxD
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On February 17 2016 19:25 Iwasrobik wrote: Wait. You're talking about Kaenu here then. You're saying that it's weird that I scumread both Kaenu and Vald here: During N1, because, Kaenu was the "main force behind Vlad's lynch". You cannot believe that for real. Kaenu at this point had only indicated Vlad as town. Wtf are you talking about? Its super simple. At EoD 2 I was scumreading Keanu cause I thought he was covering Warty, he was voting Valdi and suspecting me additionally. My point against you being that in this time your confidence into the valdi lynch never faltered even though your other scumread keanu was voting him, at least I believe you were scumreading him at the time. | ||
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Iwasrobik
190 Posts
On February 17 2016 19:37 GargamelxD wrote: Wtf are you talking about? Its super simple. At EoD 2 I was scumreading Keanu cause I thought he was covering Warty, he was voting Valdi and suspecting me additionally. My point against you being that in this time your confidence into the valdi lynch never faltered even though your other scumread keanu was voting him, at least I believe you were scumreading him at the time. The point where I started to think kaenu wasn't scum: On February 14 2016 08:10 Iwasrobik wrote: No wait this obviously is super bad but this post is 90% from a townie. Shapelog attacked me with narrative like that in a game I didn't have time to play, keanu is shape right ? I read that somewhere. The point where Kaenu mentioned he could be OK lynching Vlad: On February 15 2016 06:27 keanuisgod wrote: Okay, I may end up sheeping into the Valdi wagon but first I'll finish rereading. @Gargy: To be honest until right now I get the feeling you are more likely to be town and Warty to be scum, any "chainsaw defense" is actually an attack on your reasoning, not any actual defense. Anyways don't really worry about me So you're wrong. | ||
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Iwasrobik
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Iwasrobik
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Iwasrobik
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Why did you never give a read on Vlad near D2's lynch when it was clear he was probably the lynch and you posted very close to the lynch ? Besides the "Vlad = HTS = town" read. | ||
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GargamelxD
59 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On February 15 2016 04:48 GargamelxD wrote: you call my argument a strawman and then proceed to post a strawman? hilarious. youve never even made an accusation like the one on this page in the first place (which is the strawman), instead posted some theory how me and warty are mafia cause our votes are placed badly in your opinion. Why are they placed badly? Cause they're not on valdi. Why are they bad and not on valdi? Cause you are voting valdi and not warty (even though you have a case for voting warty or me here). For you to think that we are wasting our votes you have to think that we are town, which isn't in line with what you posted so far. On February 17 2016 19:43 Iwasrobik wrote: Why did you think Watruk tinfoiled on me ? Cause you said you thought he town for tinfoil, which you by the way adressed as a joke not long ago so seems like an out of place question now (this makes it look like you're just spamming whatever you can in an attempt to make me look bad). Why did you think Kaenu was the "main force behind Vlad's lynch" ? Cause of my argument with him in which he went after me when I was wanting the warty lynch (this way actually preventing people from maybe wrongly going for warty ) and cause I wrongly believed he was voting for him earlier. For some reason I still give keanu most credit for that lynch, not you, cause he kept people on course while I didn't, and cause I don't remember you being particularly memorable or even around during our argument. Why were you present 1h50 before D2 lynch and 30 minutes after it but AFK during it ? Why did you never give a read on Vlad near D2's lynch when it was clear he was probably the lynch and you posted very close to the lynch ? Besides the "Vlad = HTS = town" read. The afk arguments don't interest me, I see no reason why it should be an issue if I don't post during the night, I was around D1 to pick my lynch and push it, D2 to do the same, and at night I just couldnt be arsed to play mafia when we were awaiting the NK. As for my Valdi read, it was a lazy read but I was somehow convinced I saw a town HTS posting there who was genuinely busy, I have nothing more to add to this. Im still convinced it was HTS but a busy and mafia one. | ||
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keanuisgod
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Iwasrobik
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On February 17 2016 20:21 GargamelxD wrote: you just made me realize i was thinking that keanu was voting valdi back then: + Show Spoiler + On February 15 2016 04:48 GargamelxD wrote: you call my argument a strawman and then proceed to post a strawman? hilarious. youve never even made an accusation like the one on this page in the first place (which is the strawman), instead posted some theory how me and warty are mafia cause our votes are placed badly in your opinion. Why are they placed badly? Cause they're not on valdi. Why are they bad and not on valdi? Cause you are voting valdi and not warty (even though you have a case for voting warty or me here). For you to think that we are wasting our votes you have to think that we are town, which isn't in line with what you posted so far. Cause you said you thought he town for tinfoil, which you by the way adressed as a joke not long ago so seems like an out of place question now (this makes it look like you're just spamming whatever you can in an attempt to make me look bad). Again, for the third time, that didn't happen. I townread kaenu for tinfoil not Wartruk. Every point you said against me were false: "I used a dumbtell to townread wartruk and was apolegitic about it" => didn't happen "I townread wartruk because he tinfoiled me" => didn't happen. "I scumread Kaenu who was the main force behind Vlad's lynch" => didn't happen. Your recent suspicions against me are only starting now that I'm pretty sure you are the last scum, and are based on things that didn't happen. You're OMGUSing me. Nothing about Wartruk has changed, you didn't post any change to your read of him, but for some reason you're attacking me now. On February 17 2016 20:21 GargamelxD wrote: Cause of my argument with him in which he went after me when I was wanting the warty lynch (this way actually preventing people from maybe wrongly going for warty ) and cause I wrongly believed he was voting for him earlier. For some reason I still give keanu most credit for that lynch, not you, cause he kept people on course while I didn't, and cause I don't remember you being particularly memorable or even around during our argument. You're wrong. I'm telling you you're lying when you're saying " I still give keanu most credit for that lynch, not you, cause he kept people on course while I didn't, and cause I don't remember you being particularly memorable or even around during our argument". Prove it's true or shut up. | ||
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GargamelxD
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On February 17 2016 21:54 keanuisgod wrote: So Gargy, what do you think about my points about Warty? Do you agree with them (apparently)? No, not really, cause I just read this: On February 15 2016 05:45 Wartrukk wrote: Right now I'm thinking robik and garg is the most likely scumteam On February 15 2016 07:38 rsoultin wrote: Vote Count Valdiano (3): Iwasrobik, nnn_thekushmountains, keanuisgod Wartrukk (1): GargamelxD GargamelxD (1): Wartrukk Not Voting (1): Valdiano At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 6 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here Only votes there will be counted. On February 15 2016 07:20 Wartrukk wrote: Hm, should I switch so scum can't last minute hammer or what? Probably On February 15 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote: ##unvote ##vote: valdiano This makes warty still just as likely to be mafia (which would be nice so i didnt waste my energy on nothing yesterday actually  )The reason for his switch doesn't make much sense if he believes me and robik to be mafia, he should have been confident that we were about to lose the game, not afraid that robik might switch to him leading to valdi being lynched anyway. Imo this is still a strong point to be suspicious of him, mafia might have been afraid of ending up on the wrong wagon here, could easily have been tmi showing itself. Btw the votecount is wrong, keanu voted just before that count, so try to count that in. | ||
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GargamelxD
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On February 17 2016 22:18 Iwasrobik wrote: Again, for the third time, that didn't happen. I townread kaenu for tinfoil not Wartruk. Every point you said against me were false: "I used a dumbtell to townread wartruk and was apolegitic about it" => didn't happen "I townread wartruk because he tinfoiled me" => didn't happen. "I scumread Kaenu who was the main force behind Vlad's lynch" => didn't happen. Your recent suspicions against me are only starting now that I'm pretty sure you are the last scum, and are based on things that didn't happen. You're OMGUSing me. Nothing about Wartruk has changed, you didn't post any change to your read of him, but for some reason you're attacking me now. You're wrong. I'm telling you you're lying when you're saying " I still give keanu most credit for that lynch, not you, cause he kept people on course while I didn't, and cause I don't remember you being particularly memorable or even around during our argument". Prove it's true or shut up. If that didn't happen then what is the reason for you townreading Warty? The dumbtell was a joke, the tinfoil is wrong, so what are we left with for you to TR him all of a sudden? | ||
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Iwasrobik
190 Posts
On February 17 2016 22:32 GargamelxD wrote: If that didn't happen then what is the reason for you townreading Warty? The dumbtell was a joke, the tinfoil is wrong, so what are we left with for you to TR him all of a sudden? It happened that I reread the game and you're scum for the reasons I've explained. Watruk is not super townie, but the relations between Vlad and him compared to the relations with Vlad and you strongly points at you. You're also both low activity level players, but his lurkiness is more consistent and constantly explained, while you're AFKing at strategical moment without explaining. Exactly like Vlad here or Palmar in Star Wars. There are also small things that are pretty weak by themselves but points him as town and you as scum: - your TMI post on LS being lynchbait - his "THIS LYNCH IS BAD" posts EOD1 - you usually showing up only when you need to defend yourself - him voting Vlad when he could have fake AFKed or just not vote so Vlad is not lynched | ||
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Iwasrobik
190 Posts
On February 17 2016 22:32 GargamelxD wrote: If that didn't happen then what is the reason for you townreading Warty? The dumbtell was a joke, the tinfoil is wrong, so what are we left with for you to TR him all of a sudden? Plus, way to deflect the question. You said a bunch of things to explain your sudden suspicion on me; they are are false. So what are your read on me now ? | ||
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