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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 29 2016 18:34 GMT
#1161
I think there's a very good chance either Alur or I die tonight.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 18:34 GMT
#1162
I feel like its weird that PMT spends much of her early posting talking about townreads. Or often not even talking about townreads, but saying why other peoples scumreads are incorrect, without having a read on those people.

When PMT finally posts scumreads, they seem willing to lynch most anyone, including all suspects. This seems really strange given how aggressively PMT was shooting down non-definitive scumreads earlier. The exception to this is the scumread on Tumblewood, which was an original thought scumreading.

In regards to scumreads and the lynch, I feel that PMT has been very much in the background and non-influential. But the critical thinking is there, so I'm very unsure.

Thoughts?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 29 2016 18:37 GMT
#1163
I admit that she was once a strong TR for me, and I find her lack of activity/announced zoning-out till EoN1 kinda of weird
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 29 2016 18:42 GMT
#1164
On January 30 2016 03:34 Trfel wrote:
I feel like its weird that PMT spends much of her early posting talking about townreads. Or often not even talking about townreads, but saying why other peoples scumreads are incorrect, without having a read on those people.

When PMT finally posts scumreads, they seem willing to lynch most anyone, including all suspects. This seems really strange given how aggressively PMT was shooting down non-definitive scumreads earlier. The exception to this is the scumread on Tumblewood, which was an original thought scumreading.

In regards to scumreads and the lynch, I feel that PMT has been very much in the background and non-influential. But the critical thinking is there, so I'm very unsure.

Thoughts?

I took note of this as well. It looked surprisingly easy for her to townlean people early on. In reply to that Onegu said that it's just a way some people play. Which might be true, I really don't know what is most prevalent. Personally I find that it takes a lot for me to trust somebody.

I would have preferred it if you referenced specific posts with your allegation. Really makes it a lot easier for town to see your point of view.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 18:47 GMT
#1165
I'm on my phone. I can't do so.

The transition from townreads to scumreads is very pronounced. It's the post where PMT explains scumreads on four people iirc me, Onegu, Tumblewood, and JesusIncarnate. Before that are lots of talk about townreads and discounting other scum reads. After that it feels like a leaf in the wind, just going wherever with the scumreads and lynch. It's really weird that PMT doesn't discuss reasoning used to narrow down the lynch. Seems like PMT doesn't care to convince people about the lynch. Why did the reasoning stop? Maybe because everyone was townreading?

I don't know
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 18:49 GMT
#1166
Actually hm
PepperMintTea, please answer my statements when you get a chance.

A sensible and plausible explanation means that PepperMintTea is probably town. There should be an explanation for town.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 29 2016 18:56 GMT
#1167
On January 30 2016 03:34 darthfoley wrote:
I think there's a very good chance either Alur or I die tonight.

If iw ere scum I would kill eden.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
January 29 2016 18:56 GMT
#1168
I am catching up.
Try TL Mafia!!!
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 29 2016 19:01 GMT
#1169
On January 30 2016 03:56 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 03:34 darthfoley wrote:
I think there's a very good chance either Alur or I die tonight.

If iw ere scum I would kill eden.


me too
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 19:07 GMT
#1170
So I guess I'm at Tumblewood as definite mafia.

And the rest between Onegu, Ikidomari, and PepperMintTea, pending an explanation.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 29 2016 19:10 GMT
#1171
On January 29 2016 11:52 Shapelog wrote:
Things to do tomorrow that i prob. won't end up doing:
Close read Tumble filter,
Look at Eden (like someone said we let him be lazy)
Investigate trofl scum
Post reasons why i think Ikido is mafia (or town if by a miracle he convinces me)

Moving thru my list pretty well I think
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 29 2016 19:15 GMT
#1172
I agree that Eden is a good lynch, but for that to be the case he has to actually be town. Also, isn't there a chance that talking about this helps mafia? Doesn't it open nutty WIFOM options?

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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 29 2016 19:17 GMT
#1173
On January 30 2016 04:15 Alur wrote:
Also, isn't there a chance that talking about this helps mafia? Doesn't it open nutty WIFOM options?

Yup, and for once i didn't cause it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 29 2016 19:18 GMT
#1174
I would be an awful night 1 shot, hopefully the mafia agree with y'all instead of me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 29 2016 19:19 GMT
#1175
Like why are you guys honestly talking about it? What practical reasoning is there right now. Maybe tomorrow, but not right now.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 19:19 GMT
#1176
Alur, is that what you meant to say?

Also it is generally agreed upon for town to continue scumhunting as normal during the night phase. The extra 24 hours is worth more than giving mafia more info for nightkills.

If mafia nightkills for wifom, it almost always doesn't pay off. So that isn't something to worry a lot about.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 29 2016 19:21 GMT
#1177
On January 30 2016 04:15 Alur wrote:
I agree that Eden is a good lynch, but for that to be the case he has to actually be town. Also, isn't there a chance that talking about this helps mafia? Doesn't it open nutty WIFOM options?



I mean... if I were scum I would actually nk Jesusincarnate. That guy is scary good, he said so himself.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 19:21 GMT
#1178
Owait you're talking about mafia nks. I thought we were talking about reads. My bad.

Alur, mafia can shoot themselves. So Eden doesn't have to be town to get killsd.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 29 2016 19:21 GMT
#1179
If i might ask. How does it not pay off?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 19:22 GMT
#1180
Yeah Shapelog I'd rather not go into that. I suggest talking to experienced players when you get a chance, there are many people who are better at nk analysis than I am. Nk analysis and voting analysis aren't my strengths.
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