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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:03 GMT
#209
On January 27 2016 06:56 _MexicanAlien wrote:
So is the first day always just meta reads?

No, in fact meta reads come later in D1.
D1 is usually called the "joke phase" but a lot can be completed d1. personally i suck at D1 but am trying to improve on it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:04 GMT
#210
On January 27 2016 07:02 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 06:56 _MexicanAlien wrote:
So is the first day always just meta reads?



You shouldnt try to meta read people and the fact that people are talking about it in a newbie game is really bad.

Yeah I take the blame.
Should of been more clear on what i meant lol.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:05 GMT
#212
On January 27 2016 07:03 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 06:39 Onegu wrote:
But serious Shape trying to meta read kush(nooninsong) before he even posts is weird as fuck.

What exactly is weird about anything Shapelog did? Specifics please.

On January 27 2016 06:01 Shapelog wrote:
Kush is scum because he hasn't slip town yet.
2 down

OH I see why everyone is confused. I joked that Kush was scum while saying that.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:06 GMT
#214
Eh I done worse.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:13 GMT
#218
On January 27 2016 07:09 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 07:07 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Alright enough about meta reads
we should come up with a strategy


What do you suggest?

I Know your not talking to me, but i suggest we start organizing the town/Find a direction to go into for lynch and D2 (and n1 actions i guess). A course I am not sure how to do it, since half of the players have not posted and it is only a hour into the game.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:15 GMT
#219
And by n1 actions I mean Blue roles.

A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
B) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
C) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
D) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon

This is the pontienal set ups btw
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:15 GMT
#220
These are*
Blah my Grammar sucks arse
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:28 GMT
#228
On January 27 2016 07:19 darthfoley wrote:
You mean, discuss what the blue roles would do IF they in fact are in the setup?

Discussing blue roles in depth too early is dangerous for the town. That information is really valuable for mafia, ESPECIALLY because their setup is the same for each of the 4 possibilities.


That is why i put in ()"s
I agree that information is also important to mafia, eh best to ignore it for right now.
I mean:
Cop: doesn't need direction in all honesty
Doc: telling mafia who we are healing is a dumb idea
Vig: Eh I seen some games where the vig is directed. But, it could be risky.
Vet: Vet is passive

So yeah now that I think about it, nothing can be really gain from directing anything except from maybe a vig?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:29 GMT
#229
On January 27 2016 07:23 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Yes why talk about blue roles? This could possibly give the scum information. This may or may not help them but we shouldn't unwittingly give them any more

Doesn't scum already know set up?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:30 GMT
#230
On January 27 2016 07:23 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 07:19 darthfoley wrote:
You mean, discuss what the blue roles would do IF they in fact are in the setup?

Discussing blue roles in depth too early is dangerous for the town. That information is really valuable for mafia, ESPECIALLY because their setup is the same for each of the 4 possibilities.




Blues do not claim.

Yup ^
Did i come off suggesting that We have them Claim Btw? because if so, I did not mean that.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:33 GMT
#234
Omg I just realize that Onegu has been reading my posts <3
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:37 GMT
#238
On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Is anyone else here seeing a pattern?

I do something/suggest something dumb,
Post something un relating
Comment on someone elses post and do something dumb again,
and then post something unrelating?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:39 GMT
#240
I am just trying to help solve/point into a direction this game b/4 I have to get off at 6 ish.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:40 GMT
#241
On January 27 2016 07:39 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 07:37 Shapelog wrote:
On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Is anyone else here seeing a pattern?

I do something/suggest something dumb,
Post something un relating
Comment on someone elses post and do something dumb again,
and then post something unrelating?



Or you post something dumb trying to get discussion going and I shut it down because it is dumb...

Doesn't that make you scum since you want to control the thread and not allow the discussion to develop?
Or is that a Oneguy try hard thing?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:42 GMT
#244
Umm I am a Noob .
This is my 3rd game, 2nd game I had to be replaced because of medical reasons.
Games I have played in are:
NSM 18 (I had to be replaced)
Nutcracker
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:48 GMT
#248
On January 27 2016 07:44 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 07:40 Shapelog wrote:
On January 27 2016 07:39 Onegu wrote:
On January 27 2016 07:37 Shapelog wrote:
On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Is anyone else here seeing a pattern?

I do something/suggest something dumb,
Post something un relating
Comment on someone elses post and do something dumb again,
and then post something unrelating?



Or you post something dumb trying to get discussion going and I shut it down because it is dumb...

Doesn't that make you scum since you want to control the thread and not allow the discussion to develop?
Or is that a Oneguy try hard thing?



Yup. Trfel already caught me remember?

But seriously you are trying to make discussion about things that will not move the thread forward in a helpful way at all. Like what you have brought up only helps scum not town.

True, I think most of it is because i put something like "(n1 actions)" and everyone focuses on that. I try to be more helpful.
But any ways Mexican Alien is prob. town for trying to figure out what we should do. Even when he does not know what to do, he still trys to be helpful.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 22:55 GMT
#251
On January 27 2016 07:48 _MexicanAlien wrote:
So first shapelog suggests talking about blue roles, then he lists the reason for each blue role to not need help.
Very good reasons.

Yeah i was revising the logic on it after Deathfy posted about it.
Also I am always Sus. on my D1's, Both as Blue and Vt due to my reactive, blah blah blah trolling playstyle
Yet to roll mafia sadly, thought this would be the one =(.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 26 2016 23:03 GMT
#255
I also will be peacing out.
Mexican Alien i have a town lean on.
Onegu/Deathfy I am not sure about, and after reading the thread in the morning will prob. get a idea on them.
Everyone else has faded from my mind.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 01:58 GMT
#278
Yo USP is the bomb. Got me my motherboard a day early :D

I've read the TR on me. I think it is the worse possible town read on me period.
Let me explain.
On January 27 2016 08:30 PepperMintTea wrote:
A fairly interesting beginning. I wanted to share some of my observations

Shapelogseems to strike me as overexcited or nervous. I also do not believe he is reading the game carefully enough and he just spouts whatever comes into his head. At first his read of "town lean on MexicanAlien" seems rather farfetched

He/she calls my town lean on Mexican Alien farfetch. I town lean that came from:
On January 27 2016 07:07 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Alright enough about meta reads
we should come up with a strategy

On January 27 2016 07:17 _MexicanAlien wrote:
I have no freakin clue what to do.
We need information.

There is no way that a mafia make the first post and then makes the second. He could of easily pushed a mafia agenda right here. Hell he could of taken Thread control here forcing townies to listen to a strategy that really doesn't have any merit to it (too early in the game IMO).
Also the "we need infomation" also seems townie to me (though i will admit it can defiantly be NAI).
On January 27 2016 07:31 _MexicanAlien wrote:
no blue talk it is useless (to townies)

Tell me what is the purpose of saying this as mafia? Like at all why would he want the blue talk to end? Sure, maybe he wanted cred for it. But this is a very pro-townie statement, In fact, mafia benefits NONE from it.
On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Is anyone else here seeing a pattern?

This shows he is reading the thread and is trying to actively solve the game. Patterns are usally the first thing the brain notices when Analyzing things.

So My town read on Mexican is good. The fact he is solving the game should be a clear indication.
But here is why you don't town read him:
On January 27 2016 07:43 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Why does shapelog call his own play dumb? Shouldn't he be trying to play well? "Improve D1"?

Ok, First off I could see where you come from. Maybe (Just maybe) you think he is trying to draw attention to me, and possibly forcing a mislynch on me.
Ok lets ponder this:
Sure, i'll admit that I am prob. the best mislynch target for mafia at this point. I mean god, look at my posts. A lot of things that can be used for a case. And sure, while I did tried to help town, i ended up failing epicly. Also who would trust me? honestly who?
But the thing is, the above post from him doesn't push me. Sure, it could be taken as that. But that is more of a playstyle question then "I think this guy could be scum b/c of X" statement.
And lets also ponder the fact you can be mafia.
You come into the thread "lolly lolly, I am peppermint" read the posts and you get to the end. Who stands out? Prob. me and mexcian. You see that everyone is sus. of me. I can totaly see you town reading me (since you know I am town b/c your mafia) so when i get lynch (or if i get lynched) you get cred for it. You also benift if mexican gets killed because he is a strong player.
So no matter what you win either way.

Finally, lets discus your town read on me:
Initial: "hes overexcited and nervous"
On January 27 2016 08:41 PepperMintTea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 08:38 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:30 PepperMintTea wrote:
Shapelogseems to strike me as overexcited or nervous. I also do not believe he is reading the game carefully enough and he just spouts whatever comes into his head. At first his read of "town lean on MexicanAlien" seems rather farfetched


This seems contradictory. Nervous people don't spout whatever comes into their head.


Many people talk too much or over explain to counter feeling nervous or anxious. It is a fairly common issue.

So you drop the overexcited part? Ok, I will admit, I do have anxintry disorder. But, I have not felt nervous or overexcited about this at all. sure, i am happy that i am playing, but i am not like OMG YES YES YES.

What also is funny is that you decide is that my town lean was weak, BUT your town read was not. I mean at least mine I could prove and it made sense. All yours is on is tone, period.

Honestlly, Right now, you have a good chance of being scum.
##VoteepperMintTea
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#279
##VoteepperMintTea
Lol his name turns into the Emoji
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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