Pick Your Power: Intriguing

On January 19 2016 08:55 The Shining wrote:
Am I the only one picking high numbers because yolo? =O

On January 20 2016 01:59 Superbia wrote:
Also SL is too agreeable.

On January 20 2016 02:02 CopCake wrote:
Sorry for not being super active :/ I found out on monday I had a new project which is I wanted to be out but I feel it would be pretty disrespectful to just leave like that.

I promise that when I get out of work I will do my best!

On January 20 2016 02:17 Superbia wrote:


This shit doesn't even contradict rofl. Not entirely sure now.

On January 20 2016 02:21 Keirathi wrote:

He literally hasn't said anything except what numbers he was picking and that he was going to shoot me if I pick 1,1 with him.

I don't trust him enough to give him 1,1 for free, but I'm curious if he'll have the cojones to actually shoot me.

On January 19 2016 12:20 Onegu wrote:
1,1 has been locked in 100% and I am getting off here as I have to be up at 5 am EST... I called it and if you send me to the back I will attempt to get a day vig role and 1000000000000000000000000000% shoot you in the face.

And yeah I am that type of person. Ask people who have played with me if you dont know.

On January 20 2016 02:31 Keirathi wrote:

What? Picking the same number doesn't have anything to do with what role you get. Just what order you get to pick your role in.

On January 20 2016 02:34 Keirathi wrote:
SL:

Picking the same numbers doesn't mean you're a VT. It just means your picking order gets moved down the list. Also, there aren't even any fucking VTs in this game, wtf.

On January 20 2016 02:36 Superbia wrote:


Actually you become a rando role from the very bottom list. Forgot actual name.

On January 20 2016 04:50 Superbia wrote:


Played with the guy quite a bit and just.. feels like it. Tried to substantiate the claim after he said he only dumbtells as town and couldn't find a straight up dumbtell as mafia from his filters but couldn't really find one (though to be honest I only took 5m and only looked at the mafia game I was in as well). Still will hold to this point though. I feel like SL is more of a drifting player regardless of his alignment. Like he will only read specific parts of the game. So I don't think him dumbtelling is a towntell per say.

On January 20 2016 05:03 Palmar wrote:

that was my idea jesus. Getting sl to shoot me that is.

On January 20 2016 05:31 Palmar wrote:

I'm taking all the credit.

On January 20 2016 06:55 The Shining wrote:
Oh I'm bumping SL, the guy making the list LOL

On January 20 2016 09:30 Palmar wrote:
of the top people I trust geript and superbia the most.

I think I should trust rels too, but it's less strong.

On January 20 2016 09:32 Onegu wrote:



NO I was on 6,1 to fuck SL.

On January 20 2016 09:36 Palmar wrote:

yeah but tbh there's two mafia teams so it's sort of weak.

I need to read him more.

Also @everyone does anyone particularly feel like being a "check"?

IE: a check is a person who picks a random role from a list assigned to people above him OR we assign the check to pick a random mafia favored role to make sure someone else doesn't have it.

On January 20 2016 09:44 Superbia wrote:


Why? Because of the whole "give it to scum" thing?

On January 20 2016 10:02 Cephiro wrote:


I agree, I'm not. But based on your understanding of my post, I'm not so sure about you.

Which part of my post where I said I intentionally did it, did you not read?

Why should I suddenly start following Palmar who hasn't done much to make me believe he's town, and let him take full control over what everyone should do? Screw that.

On January 20 2016 10:18 The Shining wrote:


It's funny you say this but I've carried more than one game. And I put in 6 first. Suck it

On January 20 2016 10:42 kitaman27 wrote:


What did you have in mind here by "gaming the system"?

On January 20 2016 12:28 CopCake wrote:


I didn't pick got back from work an hr ago and got a pm warning, I asked for comfirmation if I was out so I dont have to read the thread and apparently I missunderstood.

:/ I got a SHITON of work IRL which is why I wanted to out before the game started.

On January 20 2016 13:14 Keirathi wrote:
sicklucker are you sure you sent in to both hosts that you were picking 12?

Becuase if you assume that your pick is still 6,1, then the draft order makes sense.

On January 20 2016 21:03 Rels wrote:

He's probably wrong but he's also probably town 'cause he's organising the town => likely to get shot by the other family if he's scum; and 'cause of the two dumbtells now.

On January 20 2016 21:26 Palmar wrote:
I'm back and realizing I need to hand out townreads more easily for this to ever work I'm starting with rels for getting super excited about a mechanic.

On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?

On January 20 2016 23:38 Breshke wrote:
Yeah SL and you not PM'ing the hosts right isnt a dumbtell its just dumb

On January 21 2016 00:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
You're. You should pick Ayla since you're a dumbass neanderthal.

On January 21 2016 02:13 Koshi wrote:

disagree. But I didn't read all the roles yet and dnu if I will today.

Audit is brutal. So tired. I can follow thread a bit but not much more.

On January 21 2016 04:23 geript wrote:

Just the mix of his reads and how he reacts. Like Keir is fucking obvious town. PalmAr's kinda being super cautious around calling people that are obvious town town. Instead he's almost pulling shitty reasons out of mid air to scumread people. He's focusing on this plan (which is NAI) but he's not really doing anything effective with it. Like Superbia's kinda run off with that. It's just more an exercise to get people avoiding having to talk about reads. Especially when the core of the pick plan really is to also discuss who we don't trust and why.

On January 21 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.

On January 21 2016 05:21 Koshi wrote:

maybe. Problem is town might protect mafia and mafia only protects mafia.

On January 21 2016 05:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
I won't be able to really catch up until i get to work in an hour and a half was there anything I was asked in the 200+ posts I skimmed?

On January 21 2016 05:34 The Shining wrote:
I don't really have a problem with Palmars post. Time travelling vig I'd be okay with, too, although I'm not sure how I'd be expected to prove I shot with town intent. Unless once I have solid TRs, they'd help direct my shot.

Yu Narukami looks fun, too, but probably because I'm a Persona fan. Also with a player like me, who doesn't get lynched or NKd early normally, town would get the most out of Yu.

I'll probably lock in one of those 2. Leaning towards Yu. Thoufhts? I'm a low pick so me not getting it would mean someone higher up took it without claiming it

On January 21 2016 05:48 The Shining wrote:
That's probably the best I'll get from someone who I think is town but called me useless.

Alright I'm locking in TT vig. If I don't get it, mc ftw

On January 21 2016 08:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


The last thing I want to do is wreck this game by going maverick.

On January 21 2016 08:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Unless mafia is already given roles that are really good, in which case they have no reason to hide/mess around with roles anyway because duh.

How on earth did Damdred get Nigella?

On January 21 2016 08:09 Superbia wrote:
Why are we giving shining a KP role..?

On January 21 2016 08:39 Damdred wrote:
I 100% am using whatever negative ability I get on obi no matter what now and the only way to stop me is to lynch me d1.

I allowed myself to be dicked around by ff because it was the date I got married on, but I won't be dicked around because I'm not able to be here when I am legit one of the stronger town players I. The game and these fear reads on me are pathetic

On January 21 2016 08:45 kitaman27 wrote:






Who here thinks these three statements could possibly follow a logical sequence from a town Palmar? It's impossible.

On January 21 2016 08:54 Palmar wrote:
I should just stick with my earlier plan of picking puppeteer so I have someone friendly and smart to talk to.

On January 21 2016 08:55 Palmar wrote:

you're friendly yes.

On January 21 2016 13:36 Tictock wrote:
Thats true GB, but you have to admit there's apathetic and forced dumbtells (asking questions about stuff in OP).

Speaking of dumbtells I don't really like SL making a big deal about his missed PM. Though my gut is leaning town on him kus of how upset he was that his "sweet spot" number didn't work out.

On January 21 2016 19:41 Koshi wrote:
I got a pro mafia role. Please do not ever kill me mafia. I just want to sit this one out till the end. I don't even want to win.

On January 21 2016 06:39 Koshi wrote:

Well. I just resubmitted to pick Werner.

On January 22 2016 06:49 Rels wrote:

Fucking fuck.
We cannot kill Alot then. Alot checks Artorias and we protect him. kita checks Alot to see if he's really kitaman.

On January 22 2016 06:54 Rels wrote:
OK. Alot claimed to have kita. We let him use it, if he lies about it we kill him. Simple.
We need to track roleblockers to be sure they're not blocking him if we're doing that, so he cannot lie about that.

On January 22 2016 06:58 Superbia wrote:


I don't want alot off the table for today. I say all the ???s claim (WHICH THEY SHOULDVE ALREADY DONE) and we go from there.

I think Vivax and TT need to be the first claims. That way if they claim something already taken by another ??? flower we get some ezinfo.

On January 22 2016 07:30 Superbia wrote:
In before sicklucker changes his whole story.

On January 22 2016 07:30 Superbia wrote:
In before sicklucker changes his whole story.

On January 22 2016 08:17 CopCake wrote:
Do I really have to claim sup?

On January 23 2016 01:39 Vivax wrote:
ill be completely honest i picked dimensional lemming hoping i could pull myself and a few other heroes of the resistance into another game where we could lynch palmar just for lulz

On January 23 2016 08:16 Onegu wrote:



so you dont believe he is lemming?

On January 23 2016 08:25 Damdred wrote:
I think I could easily see town vivax act this way.

And SL why are you ok with lynching vivax when in the past you have clearly always stated that we should give someone as easy to read as vivax till day 2 or three so we know for sure?

On January 23 2016 08:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
I want to swap to gb kinda now

On January 23 2016 08:43 CopCake wrote:
Ok I am free from work in 20 min (already finished but schedules and shit)

Going to arrive home and take a shower, I promise to re read the thread completely backwards and give a better read paragraph.

On January 23 2016 08:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
fuck I got stupid probe last pyp I played too

gg no re

On January 23 2016 09:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
wait so I thought there were two mafia teams do we not even get to associate people?

On January 23 2016 09:40 The Shining wrote:


GB voted SL, one of the towniest people in thread to me. He had no time to really play, really apathetic, but somehow had enough to pull a scum read on SL.

Vayne voted with scumVivax on Onegu. Need to recheck why.

Damdred voted GB and defends Vivax as doing what he did as either alignment but he also said he didn't read. The stubbornness reads a bit townie to me, though.

Onegu voted geript, also need to check on why for that one but I've never been in thread when onegus here so I don't remember him pushing geript.

By your heuristic, they could all be scum but scum are teams of 4, which means it's impossible they're all with Vivax or knew he was scum.

On January 23 2016 09:57 The Shining wrote:
I think I've decided on my shot and I might have crumbed it already. Dun dun dun.

Bang bang.

Wait am I gonna get scumread for not letting my shot be directed? Lol

On January 23 2016 10:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Following players seem unlikely to be paired with Vivax:
Palmar - Picked up on the early post from him that was bad and then Vivax tried to appease him towards end with town read.
disfo - Consistent mafia read on vivax during the first 72 hours and had the case which summarized things pretty well
sicklucker - It would be really suboptimal to reveal the missing busdriver when Vivax is going to be a prime candidate here.
superbia - Suggested we use the gambler plan on Vivax during planning phase and then lists him as priority lynch later

I thought about including damdred on the list for essentially hard defending him towards the end. If they were buddies, he almost certainly isn't going to save him with 30 minutes left and he would look worse for doing so. It seems like he might have actually thought Vivax was town.

Following players look worse after flip:
onegu - He never mentions Vivax all game and then shows up near the end with these posts that soft defend him by suggesting that we're lynching him based on the role, rather than the fact that he was really scummy.





Breshke - If he acknowledges that the disfo case is sufficient to lynch Vivax, why is he asking me about him? It's kind of hard to explain, but if he has already made his mind up, why is he coming to me to validate his read. If I say I'm lynching Vivax for different reasons than disfo, then he vote Vivax. If I say I'm lynching Vivax for the same reasons as disfo, then he votes Vivax. Seems like a buddy attempt or something.





copcake - She responds sarcastically when Vivax brings her up, but she doesn't actually share a scum read on Vivax which I felt was strange since it seemed like she was suggesting that.





Alotsomuch - No quotes here but he goes all game without really even mentioning Vivax and then just shows up to vote him without adding anything at all. Seems real complacent.

Koshi - Both defends Vivax directly by explaining why he is town and indirectly by strongly pushing the onegu counter-wagon. This would be pretty irrelevant though if onegu is scum too I guess.

On January 23 2016 10:16 CopCake wrote:
It is like a day vig but wowwwwwww not surprises and now mafia will come after me for it

On January 23 2016 11:22 CopCake wrote:


I can shot you at any given moment babe.

On January 23 2016 11:23 sicklucker wrote:
geript - Link
Breshke Holmes
kitaman27 - Sy N Tist
Tictock - mysterious challenger claimed german dude
Damdred - Doctor
VayneAuthority - Hero
Onegu - ???

I will be sentencing one of these people to death. but lets be real it will probably be onegu. i dont want are kills to stack shining

On January 23 2016 12:09 Breshke wrote:
Shooting me is dumb since I can basically be confirmed with my role or at least if I am mafia then I'll give free info

On January 24 2016 02:17 disformation wrote:

Have played a bit in the past, but I always end up flooding my fortress when attempting to get an underground well going.



Can fully recommend watching.


"I might want to consider shooting this guy, despite not even trying to figure out his alignment."
Uh, okay? Thanks I guess?


Don't think someone answered yet: Koshi is Werner von Braun (you know the guy with the nukes).


Yeah, same reaction.
Still not too convinced about the first point against Kita, but I'll have to review the other points against him and read kita's response again after that.

Still having a hard time figuring out TT btw...

On January 24 2016 06:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
so there will be like 5 people left after tonight? Looks like a lot of KP

On January 24 2016 09:11 Superbia wrote:
We're in such a horrible position right now.

16 players alive.
of which 7 are mafia.
7/16.

Better start killing mafia, mafia.

On January 24 2016 09:38 Rels wrote:
Fuck I shouldnt have checked the thread before sleeping. We're in a bad spot now. VA kill was waranted though and the best of the options.
Onegu needs to die, and he needs to die today. Lynch, nuke, KP, I don't care. The guy picked the main mafia role in the game and made us waste Alot's check. KP / nuke is better IMO so we can talk about something else.

On January 24 2016 10:48 Onegu wrote:
Sl why didn't you use your role? I am guessing you were lying about it

On January 24 2016 19:32 Onegu wrote:



You never answered why you didnt use your role.

On January 24 2016 19:36 Onegu wrote:



Yeah but I think you dont actually have that role. You are just BSing.

On January 24 2016 19:39 Onegu wrote:



Because you are scum and one of your scummates tried to take it...

On January 24 2016 19:55 Tictock wrote:
He did not, "half majority" in this case would be 5 votes.

The KP is only valid if he survives the day. Even in the worst case scenario we could have Cake shovel him to avoid the extra KP (course then we wouldn't know the flip till Cake dies).



This is not a bad point actually.

On January 24 2016 20:02 sicklucker wrote:


how so? hes only able to redirect one kp not multiple. he killed the maximum of towns. He may have saved a town but he could not have killed two people

On January 24 2016 20:45 Onegu wrote:



I busdrive player A and B. Player C puts protection on player A. Scum shoots player B. Player B gets the protection and Player A gets shot.

On January 25 2016 06:56 The Shining wrote:


Hrm. Do we have an RB for Onegu tonight? If not, bus driving could be a pain in the flower again. I'm really not happy about losing Linkript.