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On January 20 2016 08:37 sicklucker wrote: like serious shining/onegu wuts your problem. And your useless mafia palyers im 100% shooting you via policy It's funny you say this but I've carried more than one game. And I put in 6 first. Suck it | ||
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On January 20 2016 10:26 sicklucker wrote: everygame I played with you , you afked or yelled or got really omgus if people attacked you. I admit I cant read you for shit which is why I brought you up. This game you picked a number I had already claimed knowing I had claimed it and possibly knowing onegu also picked it. So you didnt even try to pick a favorable number and didnt care Basically your useless yo me untill proven otherwise No I picked 6,3 first, I just didn't claim it, which is why I told you after you said you picked 6. And Idk how onegus 6,1 ended up after me but w.e. And every game I've played with you, you've been particularly abrasive and push me as scum for no reason, like this one when I haven't ever really been here. And you think you're some sort of town God when I find you just as unreadable as you find me. You are extremely cocky with little reason to be, imo. And pinging on me for being emotionally invested in games and getting upset for being pushed for nothing as town(you call it omgus) is my town tell because I can't fake it, as proven in my only 2 scum games here. I don't really care if I'm useless to you since I'm not TRing you atm, Most of what you've posted is nai to me so again, suck it. Idc, I'm 18th, anyone can tell me what to pick, Yolo. I'll probably end up mysterious challenger anyway | ||
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On January 20 2016 10:38 sicklucker wrote: Confident is not cocky. Yes you probably submitted it without announcing it. BUt then you returned to the thread saw that I had it and didnt bother to change or comprimise? You didnt really care you just left the thread. YOu dont seem to ever really give a fuck tho so I cant really use that against you I also came back to the thread and saw someone who has played with me multiple times and who should know that in the 95% of games that I've played, I roll town and almost NEVER post or read on Monday or Tuesday because real life. And yet you already suggest I should be policy lynched. And your "Shining doesn't give a fuck" schpiel would be a lot more accurate if I hadn't carried town in lylo in 2 recent games and wasn't shot the same night I replaced into a game because I was obvtown. So on top of everything else, you're just trying to discredit me. Tell me again why I would choose to compromise or change for someone like you? | ||
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On January 20 2016 11:10 Breshke wrote: im confused if shining chose 6,3 why is he at the bottom of the list am i having a dumb Onegu supposedly chose 6,1 but it still doesn't make sense to me why I'm above him if he did, since I was 6,3. | ||
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On January 20 2016 11:36 kitaman27 wrote: Right now the only people that I'd say warrant assigned picks are Vivax, AlotSomuch and mayyybe The Shining. Vivax seems mafia because he shows up with this post to complain about the number claiming, but doesn't suggest a better strategy or show interest in planning things out. AlotSomuch had a really weak intro post. Something about trying to take notes, but not having any reads. Then the way he mentions VA's supsicions of him seem....awkward? Seems fine with being assigned too. The Shining also a mafia lean for similar reasons to Alot. A few posts on numbers and then accepting a role assignment with little sign of interest of abusing the setup or anything. Gambler, Doctor, and kitaman27 would probably be my three preferences for the assigned roles. Mostly beneficial for town and not a ton of use for mafia. Another thing with the kita role is that if one of the doctor trio slips through, we could use it to make sure all three are in the game and then use a wall of protects/watchers/trackers to make sure they are able to pull of their checks. I don't really like that you're hedging on me, you should just commit one way or the other. But as far as me being disinterested, I've never been one to be particularly good with setup, speculation and I rarely ever played any type of roles. I signed up for this game for a bit of fun and because I have never played a PYP game before, and someone told me it'd be really fun. I was more interested in who would assign me a role, and what role it would be, so I could glean some information on whether I'm being misled or jerked around. As 18th pick, there is absolutely no guarantee I'd get the role I picked, anyway. For instance, your reasoning for the kita role being an assigned one makes sense to me and that, added to your big list of what roles should be taken in what order, make me think you're looking at that game critically and probably warrant a slight TR. | ||
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On January 20 2016 10:58 Fecalfeast wrote: I actually agree with SL's interpretation of the shining's pick does that make me scum or not-give-a-fuck town? Also can you explain why you apparently liked Damdred's filter but decided to be stubborn and say you werent changing your pick number? Like if you agree with SL's interpretation of my pick and not giving a fuck after seeing he chose the same number, why would you do the same thing to Damdred? | ||
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On January 20 2016 12:41 Fecalfeast wrote: I didn't think his filter was touny I said it was like something at a fancy restaurant. Tastes fine but the portion is so small it's not even worth paying for. I guess I was a little baked and assumed everyone would get it but I meant his filter was a small portion of things that look nice but have no substance. Like damdred normally makes a towncircle so he made a townlist but it was hardly backed up at all. He joked around with me because he knows I like joking around but when I said I wasn't moving he just said his numbers had sentimental value and that he didn't care if I took them. That's not what I was looking for so I called his bluff. Ahhhh yeh I misunderstood then. This makes a bit more sense. | ||
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On January 20 2016 12:41 Fecalfeast wrote: I think it's too early to really give hard scum/town reads right now but it makes me lean scum on you shining Even after my response to him about why I wouldn't compromise or change? Or did you not read that? | ||
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On January 20 2016 12:55 sicklucker wrote: well one of copcake/gb is 100% mafia because they had to be paying some attention (or read in scum qt) to make the value pick of #12 And both claim they did not pick which cant be true Well I know I picked 6,3 and Onegu said he picked 6,1, though I'm not sure why he isn't ahead of me. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding how the second number pick worked. But that would mean one of Cop or GB did pick 12 and bumped you down. Idk why either would lie as town here, too | ||
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On January 20 2016 13:14 Keirathi wrote: sicklucker are you sure you sent in to both hosts that you were picking 12? Becuase if you assume that your pick is still 6,1, then the draft order makes sense. Also, this. | ||
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There's no other way I'd be ahead of either of them. | ||
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On January 20 2016 13:17 Breshke wrote: but if shining is 6,3 why is he behind people who overlapped on 9 SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN This is actually a really good question. | ||
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Because there are so many posts in my filter, amirite? | ||
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Yu Narukami looks fun, too, but probably because I'm a Persona fan. Also with a player like me, who doesn't get lynched or NKd early normally, town would get the most out of Yu. I'll probably lock in one of those 2. Leaning towards Yu. Thoufhts? I'm a low pick so me not getting it would mean someone higher up took it without claiming it | ||
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On January 21 2016 05:36 sicklucker wrote: The idea is you shoot who town tells you to shot and not who you feel like. So thats how you prove you shoot with town intent Ya that's what I said with my last line there. My TRs helping direct my shot. So you agree with me time traveling then? | ||
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Alright I'm locking in TT vig. If I don't get it, mc ftw | ||
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But that would mean assigning Obi Yu Narukami. Honestly I like Yu but the role does a lot, I'm afraid I'd Fuck it up | ||
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On January 21 2016 06:22 Tictock wrote: I'm not sure I follow what you mean by this. Am I gunna get shot? Lol how would you get shot before roles are out? TT vig = time travelling vigilante | ||
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I could still shoot him if he doesn't claim. Maybe not, he narrowed down his choices to 4 and one of them is what I chose. Bah. | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:42 Breshke wrote: Fairly sure it was assigned it to someone. iirc it was TT Just depends if they see it or not If it's TT, I don't think he's picking it. He made clear he's picking what he wants, without actually saying what it was. But he did have 4 roles he hinted at wanting to pick | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:09 Superbia wrote: Why are we giving shining a KP role..? Why not? I'm town whether ppl think so or not and my shot can always be directed. Me not wanting to cooperate and shooting who I want for whatever reason can be considered a scumclaim if you'd like | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:21 Palmar wrote: Palmar's list of mafia people that sound like mafia all the time: Kitaman Cephiro Keirathi Vivax Glowingbear Then there's some meh people that might be mafia too: Onegu disformation ticktock Alotsomuch That's 9 people, there's probably some mafia in there. wow such reads. Outside of kita and Ceph(your interaction with him gave me town v town vibes), this actually doesn't look bad. Why kita? I know you had some disagreement over the role assignments but he's arguably doing the most work with it besides you. | ||
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On January 21 2016 11:17 Keirathi wrote: Yo Shining. Literally the only person you've mentioned having a scumread on up until this point was SL. Everything else was just setup speculation stuff. Now 7 out of those 9 people are are in your scum reads list from out of nowhere. Give some reasoning? The SL read was based heavily on me being annoyed and upset at him suggesting me as a plynch when he knows from past games that I have little to no activity on Monday Tuesday, plus calling me useless when I'm far from the worst town player on TL. I also have a 95% town roll rate so plynching me at any point is going to flip me town 9.5 out of 10 times. But I admit that it was a bit omgus and decided to leave it at that for now. Since then, he's made a few posts about wanting town to work together and there's a slight town feel from some of them so I'm off of him. As for sheeping Palmars list, I just said it didn't look bad outside of kita and ceph because none of the people on that list scream town to me. And I don't necessarily believe the list in that order, either. You - no one bumped you from 1,1 which I expected scum would do if you're a good town player unless you're actually scum. And although I liked your catch on Palmar re: agreeing with Damdreds list that had you as top town, I found it weird that you scummed Damdred afterwards. Like if he's scum, why would Palmar agreeing with his list matter unless they're scum together? Vivax - he isn't cooperating with anyone and OMGUSd kita and Palmar, which just looked really weird. He also did some complaining about the setup and said its just a matter of which scum team wins so why even sign up? He seems pretty bitter for absolutely no reason. There's also literally no clue to what role he picked, which could mean he took a Mafia favored role. GB - so apathetic and clueless to pretty much everything going on in the game which just feels really off. Most if not all of the answers to his questions are in the OP, which he either didn't read or wants to make us think he didn't read. I can't see any towniness in any of those posts. Onegu - he's just a big question mark but his wanting to defy everyone and bring someone down with him felt weird. I am probably also a little biased becuz the last time he posted something that wasn't text(that pic), he was scum. And he's tried to appeal to Palmar more than once about carrying him as scum last game and asking what the problem is, as if he's trying to buddy him or win him over. Disfo - this is probably the weakest one but checking his filter the first half were just pregame questions and the second half was a ton of setup talk. He has more than one post saying he's catching up and asking for direction(any hot topics to discuss?) The things I did like from him was his willingness to discuss and claim his role and his wanting to cooperate. He also dropped a preliminary reads list which didn't look particularly scummy. I'm pretty waffly on this one. TT - I didn't like his "I probably won't put much effort into this one" post because it just feels like a reason to afk or not care later. And the last time he did that, he got lynched as blue and said he wouldn't do it again so I'm not sure why he's choosing to do it here. I also didn't like his reasoning for blocking Disfo. I have them both as possible scum, but they could very well be different teams. He also had a change in tone from "I won't put much effort into this one" to "I'll probably be invested d1-d2." I don't see how that's townie. Alotsomuch - no reads or really much of anything. Got directed into a role, claimed he got it and fucked off again. I didn't even realize Alot was playing until I saw this list, which was a red flag. | ||
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I just double checked outlaw, tt is right. He apologized for the throw, said he failed hard but he didn't say he would tryhard next game. I guess I took the apology to imply that. GB have you ever rolled back to back scum games? Because I'm not toot familiar with your scum meta but I could see you being less invested in rolling scum in back to back large games. I also am not sure you've ever been so obvious about asking questions about the op. It's one of the only things you've done. | ||
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Do tell | ||
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On January 21 2016 14:01 GlowingBear wrote: I don't know what rolling back to back means :/ Having 2 games, one after the other, where you were scum. | ||
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On January 21 2016 13:12 Keirathi wrote: @Shining: Ooh, thanks. A few follow up questions if you're sticking around for a bit - Fair enough. Even if I'm scum, the other scum team wouldn't know that. So why wouldn't they try to bump me off of [1,1]? And if I'm town (and a good town, at that), then if someone does bump me off of first pick, then they would have to put up with extra scrutiny from me, yes? I mean, the draft order is public and everyone was claiming their numbers. It would be trivial to figure out who bumped me down. The point of the Palmar thing didn't have anything to do with Damdred at all. It had everything to do with how Palmar's read suddenly changed because I got [1,1] and THEN he decided to read my filter and decide I was scum. He could have done that before the draft phase ended and countered my [1,1] pick but didn't. And anyways, they could be on different teams. Or I could be wrong. Or whatever. I'm not sure how disliking Damdred in general is a conflict with not liking Palmars read switch? I can tell you why I have him down as tentative town. First, this post - That kind of jokey/lighthearted response just immediately 'feels' townie. Weak +town points. But the big thing is that a lot of his setup talk was about getting town protective/investigative roles. And he took Watson, which is a pretty pro-town role. If he's mafia, would he actually come out and SAY he wasn't going to much effort in? [I don't know TT and haven't read any of his games. I dunno what his personality is like or anything] The bumping you down thing actually makes a lot of sense when you put it like that. What you're saying is whether you were town or scum, someone bumping you down would make them suspect and possibly scummy to you, right? But it's NAI because there are two scumteams. You could be town and bumped by a scumteam, or scum bumped by the opposing scumteam. And in both cases, it would bring a possible scum open to scrutiny. It doesn't make you scum or town because the safest scumplay, regardless of your alignment, is to just leave you there. It just felt weird that someone like you had a few people TRing you at the time was allowed to keep the 1,1 and I was trying to find a reason for that. For the next one, I'll have to go re-read Palmar and check how that happened but I will say if you're right, it looks kind of bad. But considering Palmar was 5th in pick order, and no one showed any intention of bumping him, it could make sense from either alignment that he wouldn't counter your 1,1 and drop himself lower down the list. And the conflict with the Damred read and Palmar's switch was that you scummed Damdred after making the Palmar point. I can't really explain it but mentioning Damdred and his list at that moment felt like you would've pointed out what you thought was scummy about Damdred right then, as well, if you were scumreading him instead of waiting until after and making a separate "lets talk about Damdred" post. I can understand where you're coming from with Disfo but I don't feel that it's enough to town him, probably because i've played with him before. I remember emoticons and joking around from him in Dark Tournament, where he was scum. But the point about him discussing protective and investigative roles does make him look better. And his insta-claim of one of the sanity checks(I think it was Holmes) doesn't seem like there was any thought behind it, just "I have this info, I'm going to share it with town." That's why I'm waffly. RE: TT Ehhh I'm not really sure but he HAS come out and said he's not going to put much effort into games before as town so it could be trying to replicate past town games. But it's a super weak meta point at best, and paranoia at worst. | ||
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On January 21 2016 14:14 GlowingBear wrote: Ok it seems I'm right, I saw it untie database http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482863-game-of-thrones-mini-mafia?user=GlowingBear I just checked the database, it also happened here: [M][T] Mission Mini Mafia Mafia Mission Mafia Survived Day 5 [N] TL Mafia LXVIII: Fanfic Crossover Edition Mafia Roleblocker Survived Day 3 And GoT was the 2nd of these two back to backs: [M][N] Mafia Mini Mafia2: another miniature game of mafia Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 2 [M][N] Game of Thrones Mini Mafia Mafia Godfather Lynched Day 3 You get a bonus point for ante'ing up some of this info, though. I'm gonna skim the filters of those 2nd games and see how many fucks you give(or don't give) on D1. | ||
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On January 22 2016 04:56 Tictock wrote: Humm, interesting. I think I like this idea. So you want the D1 lynch to be decided by VA alone? | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:37 sicklucker wrote: ya ... koshi even tells ticktock hes picking werner in this post rofl. this post was directed to ticktock I cannot make this shit up. If we had an immediate vig that would be nice for info Lol the best I could do is flip him with the D3 daypost. Bang bang. | ||
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On January 23 2016 05:47 Tictock wrote: So tbh I think I'd still preffer Vivax out of Onegu/Vivax/geript, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure why nobody cares to talk about Koshi literally claiming scum? I'm also pretty disappointed this was the last thing we heard from Damdred. (and it was right at the start of this phase) I'm gunna vote Diformation since he has been a consistant scumread of mine and I'm not impressed that after our last exchange he's writing me off as town while saying I'm being bad for using meta and just ignores the rest of what I was saying. + Show Spoiler + On January 22 2016 13:17 Tictock wrote: Funny that you say this is the same breath that you're pushing me to claim my role... I really don't see you putting in much real thought this game Dis. You've spent a lot of time focused on me, but mostly you're just going with the flow. I'm used to town!Dis picking up on something and agonizing over it for half the day going back and forth and asking questions to try and make up your mind. Here you are basically agreeing with most of what people say and not sharing much of your own thinking. I get that you don't like me right now (you shouldn't), but honestly thinking I'm scum? I doubt it. Your not asking yourself real questions about what I'm doing, like why would I snipe your spot as scum when I saw you townreading me? Feels like I've become a scumread more out of convenience to you than any actual conviction behind it. On January 23 2016 00:15 disformation wrote: Let me quote some beautiful advise I got during one of my NSM games: Bonus points if someone is able to guess who told me that.  Also you can be annoying town. ##Vote: Disformation I'd appreciate if people could take one more look at Disinfo as well as Damdred and tell me how beautiful of a flower I am for wanting to lynch them right now. Idk about this. You'd rather lynch Vivax, who is in the lead, out of him/vivax/onegu but you don't know so you go for an outlier vote on Disfo when you know we need 12 to lynch? How sure are you on disfo? | ||
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I'm shooting tonight. The shot won't flip until the D3 daypost so I'll only lose more time if I don't shoot tonight. And I get to shoot again if I bang scum =D | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:12 Palmar wrote: also I want to point out how fucking right I was about vivax arguing with the organizational effort. Would you like a cookie? Or better yet, a piece of cake? | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:16 Palmar wrote: a glass of red wine and some dark belgian chocloate would do. I am a sophisticated scumhunter. I don't drink but I approve of the chocolate. Classy, indeed. | ||
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Can you 4 please explain why? Even though there's two scum factions, it's still pretty likely at least one here is scum. | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:27 Palmar wrote: Remember my wisdom about how mafia fight lynches? Another wisdom is that mafia tend to stay on wagons they're not pushing even if they're lone rangers on it. Were all these on the same wagon, or on some random shitty wagon? GB voted SL, one of the towniest people in thread to me. He had no time to really play, really apathetic, but somehow had enough to pull a scum read on SL. Vayne voted with scumVivax on Onegu. Need to recheck why. Damdred voted GB and defends Vivax as doing what he did as either alignment but he also said he didn't read. The stubbornness reads a bit townie to me, though. Onegu voted geript, also need to check on why for that one but I've never been in thread when onegus here so I don't remember him pushing geript. By your heuristic, they could all be scum but scum are teams of 4, which means it's impossible they're all with Vivax or knew he was scum. | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:30 Damdred wrote: Also an action has already been used on me rip You were already notified? | ||
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BH is a mysterious challenger role. Blazinghand (New - TL Mafia Ban List) You are Blazinghand, The Chosen, Wielder of the Sacred List, and He Who Guides The Newbie. Twice per game during the day phase (ability activates after the end of day), you may recommend that a player be banned. Unfortunately, you took over the banlist in the shadow of the Great GMarshal, He Who Sees All Things And Wields The Mighty Hammer, and your power is not absolute. The player you targeted may choose to either take a 'warning' (and be roleblocked for the following night phase and the following day phase) or 'sitout a game' (that player's vote during the following day phase is not counted). If the player chooses neither (either out of choice or because they are roleblocked) they will be BANNED. A banned player will have their vote stolen and added to your voting power for the following day. Cop, GB, Onegu, TT haven't claimed roles. And 3 of them claimed Mysterious Challenger. Cop, GB, TT. | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:51 CopCake wrote: No I won't, I have said several times that I think is so pro mafia to claim shit and mafia will use info in their advantage. Ok but since you don't want to claim, can you tell us if you're NOT Blazinghand? What's your current read on Damdred? | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:53 Damdred wrote: Actually I think it is probably copcake considering TT is trying to judge reactions before making hasty decisions. I see what you mean but TT alluded to thinking you're scum. I don't think Cop has given a read on you. | ||
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Bang bang. Wait am I gonna get scumread for not letting my shot be directed? Lol | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:57 Palmar wrote: if your target is someone I have called town, you will die. otherwise, whatever. You have a 13 page filter. I don't wanna have to filter five a TR just to find his TRs. Halp. Also I don't understand Cop not wanting to claim her role after claiming its a mysterious challenger role. Afaik none of them are particularly strong and she's not BH, which narrows it down slightly. | ||
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On January 23 2016 10:06 Palmar wrote: Someone else will do it and I'll be dead. You will be lynched if you shoot a townie. good luck Meh even if I was scum, I'd be looking to shoot scum from an opposite team to get the 2nd shot. But I'm not shooting into your town list. I'd be really surprised if my shot flips town. | ||
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On January 23 2016 10:08 Damdred wrote: I was gone all phase because of internet trouble, which is easily verifiable by people in game who generally talk to me or see me on fb (shining for example). I have no opinions because i'm 50 pages behind at least, I also read one three page filter and decided most of the things that were said against him could be said coming from town vivax or scum vivax. He actually put more effort in as scum than he usually does so for that gj I guess? Either way your use of the power was super anti-town because now if i'm town you have the scenario where I come back and actually do work find scum and can't push it effectively, you who I don't have a real opinion on get my vote which I will never let happen btw. Or i'm role blocked and can't save anyone. Super bad of you if you are town. Espeially so quick on the draw. This makes me sad because I can confirm Damdred has been mia on Facebook and there's stuff obv not related to this game I've wanted to tell him. It's also why I haven't harped on his inactivity yet. Damdred isn't as strong of a townread as I'm used to him being but I really don't think he's bad enough to try and get ppl off the Vivax lynch so close to deadline while openly admitting he isn't caught up | ||
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On January 23 2016 10:12 Damdred wrote: Which actually might make TT town for blocking me over the super strong roles hrm.... I'll have to think about it but seems like such a impulsive way for scum to act when they have to plan around so many more strong roles. I sorta like that for town now. Tinfoil you are scum with TT and he RBd you because you might be weak and forced to save scum. Trolololol If anyone takes this post srsly, they're bad | ||
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On January 23 2016 10:17 Keirathi wrote: Wait wait wait Kita. You've called me mafia multiple time. I semi-defended Vivax, and tried to get people to lynch geript instead. What happened to your scum read on me? Did you just forget about me, or just deice to pick on the low-hanging fruit? Also, "Damdred was hard defending Vivax in the last 30 minutes, tempted to say that makes him town" vs "Koshi was hard pushing Onegu the last 30 minutes, he definitely looks worse now". How do both of those together make sense?? I really like this post | ||
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On January 23 2016 10:15 CopCake wrote: I am shovel knight, the last role of the list, ok? But Windrunner is the last role on the list. And it's not really a day vig, you can use it at any point after d1. Like right now. But you probably shouldn't. | ||
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At any time, once per game, you may deliver 1kp to a person on your list by typing ##YouHaveFailedThisCity PLAYERNAME in the thread. Isn't that the role you claimed? | ||
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On January 23 2016 10:34 Fecalfeast wrote: man not only am I a vet in a game full of cool powers, I'm an outed vet in a game full of cool powers so I'm strapping in for a long boring game Convince scum to shoot you and claim they shot you in thread and I'll shoot you and finish you off, bb | ||
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Someone protect Palmar. Sucks our claimed Doc can't. | ||
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On January 23 2016 11:23 sicklucker wrote: geript - Link Breshke Holmes kitaman27 - Sy N Tist Tictock - mysterious challenger claimed german dude Damdred - Doctor VayneAuthority - Hero Onegu - ??? I will be sentencing one of these people to death. but lets be real it will probably be onegu. i dont want are kills to stack shining They probably won't. I'm second guessing my shot since it had to do with people being obstinate about not claiming and not trying to find scum. But I don't feel like getting shovelled to shit or banned tomorrow. Bah humbug what to do what to do Kita, I was encouraging Palmar to shoot who he truly thinks is scum, since I am reading him town and he was concerned about being NKd tonight. If he chooses to shoot you, that's on him, not me. Although my town read in you got much weaker after that Keirathi post | ||
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On January 23 2016 13:14 kitaman27 wrote: Yeah the 4-5 people I listed were the ones that immediately came to mind based on the Vivax interactions towards the end of the day. Looking at your filter now, you had a few bad posts on him and yes I'm still leaning scum on you, though not particularly for the push on geript. I'll put together an updated list for who I think the remaining 7 are right before the day post tomorrow. I think the difference was that Koshi was aggressively pushing the counter lynch, while damdred seemed more concerned about a mislynch without really doing anything that was going to keep Vivax alive with the gb vote. Can you point out what Keirathi posts were bad RE: Vivax? I do agree on your point about Damdred not really trying to keep Vivax alive, but where was Koshi aggressively pushing a counter lynch? He kept mentioning and talking about Onegu but always maintained the fact that he'd consolidate but that Onegu was always his preferred lynch. | ||
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On January 24 2016 04:04 Superbia wrote: The shining/cephiro, tell me your targets so we don't stack. Snow. Snow everywhere. I hate NYC and I'll Copcake originally was my shot because she wouldn't claim and wasn't doing anything that made sense to me. But her claiming shovel knight made me question it. Especially if she's willing to let town direct her shovel kill. I also toyed with the idea of shooting her anyway, forcing her to use the shovel next day phase since her kill won't flip alignment until she does, to give us the most info out of the kills. But then she'd probably shovel me out of spite, which wouldn't help town at all. So Idk. Im also considering shooting AlotSomuch. He's done a whole bunch of nothing and keeps claiming he'll use the kitaman role to confirm whether or not Artorias is in the game and who has him. But there's no scum hunting and no urgency to do anything in his filter. And again my shot won't flip until the D3 daypost. So he'd still be around to claim his search results tomorrow. If he lies, let the shot go through. And there is always the chance Artorias isn't in the game, which means Alot would get that role power for the following night. I am at a crossroads. | ||
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On January 24 2016 06:15 sicklucker wrote: dont shoot alot. shoot onegu? I thought you were doing that. | ||
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On January 24 2016 06:18 AlotSomuch wrote: Though bus driver could very well move stuff on me tonight in case someone watches me or they want to make sure I can be killed, so just be aware your bullet could end up elsewhere. Why would they move stuff on you unless you're not town? | ||
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On January 24 2016 06:27 sicklucker wrote: i dont think town has any direct night vigs. Mafia was probably too scared to take em. SO 4 mafia kp two per team. But we also have medics and roleblockers and vets Cpr doc is a direct vig if no one kps/attacks the target. | ||
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On January 23 2016 05:10 Onegu wrote: [QUOTE]On January 23 2016 05:06 Palmar wrote: If vivax flips town I'm lynching koshi for tmi next Lol can we lynch koshi now? Even though it is impossible for him to have TMI unless they are on the same team...[/QUOTE] Somewhere between TRing Koshi for a dumbtell, telling Koshi to nuke SL and telling Koshi he'd protect him, this post happened. And this was right before he had those weird questions about lynching Vivax bcuz of being scared we'd give him a shot, then asking if someone didn't believe the Lemming claim, kind of like he knew he was Lemming. Why would you want to lynch a TR that you're now willing to protect? I could shoot Onegu. | ||
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On January 24 2016 06:52 AlotSomuch wrote: ...Because we talked about how the only way they can prevent me from finding the mafia would be to role block or kill me, which a watcher could prevent, and then it was brought up that they could get around that by busdriving me and shooting at whoever they switch me with and the watcher wouldn't be able to see and there would be basically no way to prevent it? Hmph. I don't wanna waste my shot if it's gonna be redirected to whoever the bus driver wants to hit. I'm really trying to hit scum so I can get a second shot. | ||
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On January 24 2016 06:56 Onegu wrote: Somewhere between TRing Koshi for a dumbtell, telling Koshi to nuke SL and telling Koshi he'd protect him, this post happened. And this was right before he had those weird questions about lynching Vivax bcuz of being scared we'd give him a shot, then asking if someone didn't believe the Lemming claim, kind of like he knew he was Lemming. Why would you want to lynch a TR that you're now willing to protect? I could shoot Onegu. Lol. Cant see a joke can you?[/QUOTE] Look! I summoned an Onegu! Apparently not, I had that issue last game, too. Jokes are too OP for me. Why would you protect/TR a Koshi that's blatantly doing nothing and admitting it, and not playing pro town? Are you only TRing him off of one dumbtell? | ||
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On January 24 2016 05:52 Palmar wrote: Disformation is probably mafia btw Why? For liking your case on kita? Or the reasons he gave for liking it? | ||
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The guy that made the post...why are you so clueless every time you're here? | ||
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On January 24 2016 07:30 GlowingBear wrote: Because I've already said I'm not keeping up with the thread and that I will only have time to play better next week? Then why are you asking the thread who is mafia if you're not keeping up? You are just begging for scum to direct your power. Plus it's night phase. You give a night action role? If not, why ask now? | ||
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On January 24 2016 07:47 Cephiro wrote: Onegu do you really think Koshi is scum? I don't see why you'd protect him otherwise. No he really thinks he's town over a dumbtell | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:09 Rels wrote: Happy being town by the virtue of picking a role ? (= Can you read Shining's filter and give your opinion on it ? You're super good at reading him. You are like another ritoky. I guess it can't be helped. Then again, the last two times he misread me, he was scum. You are a bit different though, because instead of tunneling, you asked someone who's like 95% right on reading me. That feels townie. I still have to read your filter, though =/ I've been absent bcuz snow, rip. I shot AlotSomuch. Hesitant to claim it because I'm not sure if it can be RBd or protected tonight, or if it had to be done when I first shot. Outside of his role stuff, he's still doing little to no prodding or hunting and it just feels off. It's like he just exists. The anger over having wasted his role felt real, but I'm not sure if it's because as scum he could've looked for an available role that's anti town or if he's really just mad. It also came after deadline, which is probably his only half a townie point he's earned. The player list has thinned and he said something about now being more invested because of it but I'm not seeing that. I like my shot. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:20 Rels wrote: About Shining there is a big problem here: He looked BH's role in the OP and quoted it in the thread. So he should be well aware of what he does. But in the night he posted this: Meaning he thought BH's role automatically roleblocked Damdred. Meaning he didn't really know what BH's role does. This means Shining posted BH's role description to only appear helpful, without really reading it. Why would he do that as town ? Knowing what abilities in action do is essential to solving the game. But if he's scum and Damdred is town, he either: - (1) doesn't really care about it, so he didn't read it carefully; or - (2) lied about not knowing the role so protection would stack on Palmar On January 23 2016 10:12 Damdred wrote: Which actually might make TT town for blocking me over the super strong roles hrm.... I'll have to think about it but seems like such a impulsive way for scum to act when they have to plan around so many more strong roles. I sorta like that for town now. What Damdred said + bolded. I took it at face value and thought he was going to keep his vote, since he literally said he was blocked. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:30 Rels wrote: Why the fuck would you not find that out before posting ? Why the flower* I assumed it would have to happen the same night I put in my action and I didn't get RBd or anything and no one claimed protection on him so I took a chance. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:34 Rels wrote: Doesn't explain the question. Why assume when you can be sure, especially since you have like 50 hours to PM hosts before your shot happens ? Because I'm dumb and not used to having roles and saw I was asked to claim my shot and it didn't click in my head until I was posting but I didn't wanna lose my post cuz mobile posting sucks. Is this AI to you? | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:49 Rels wrote: No. Because HTS said that the shot could be protected the night it arrives. It feels like you lied about your role, and now you have an excuse if alot doesn't die, something like "Oh I shouldn't have claimed my shot beforehands, how dumb of me." Interesting. When and where did she say this? Because I couldn't find it in her pre game posts. And why is your answer No, it isn't alignment indicative in the same post that you're thinking I lied about my role? | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:04 Rels wrote: On steam 10 minutes go when I asked her the question. I thought your question was "Is this alright to you?", didn't think AI was Alignement Indicative. Well ain't that a flower. I will confirm or deny this once one of the mods PM me back. Look on the bright side. Maybe the enemy scum team is the team able to protect him and won't bother. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:56 Rels wrote: 3 I think ? Me you and disfo; + kinda superbia. Cool so if Alot doesn't die, one of you are scum. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:14 Rels wrote: Well, if you're telling the truth I don't think anyone is going to protect him, 'cause if tracked / watched it's 2 scums found. p: My problem is maybe you didn't shoot and you will try to push a alot + protecter team when there is no kill. What's good about it is that it can be over if alot dies tomorrow. (= Lol I love + hate you for this. I wonder if it's really worth watching him. It would be if we catch a protecter but that's not up to me. Chances are he'll die so meh. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:32 Damdred wrote: If you try a lot and prove your town someone could protect you. True. But if he is scum and gets protected, I don't get my 2nd shot and I'll be sad. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:36 sicklucker wrote: guys does it not make more sense to just see what kita flips before we lynch ff? he wouldnt be the first mafia that lied you know. hes probably not lying but why not wait? Nah. If kita flips town, we waste time having to wait until tomorrow to lynch FF. Who would you lynch instead? & if he flips scum, there's a good chance FF flips scum, too, as opposite team member. So 2 scum kills instead of one. There is NO way they're both town, so it's a 1-1 at worst or 2 scum at best. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:51 sicklucker wrote: gb and onegu have to go anyway. I see no problem lynching one of them and then lynching ff tomorrow when hes confirmed idc tho Hrm. Do we have an RB for Onegu tonight? If not, bus driving could be a pain in the flower again. I'm really not happy about losing Linkript. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:58 sicklucker wrote: I can already predict onegus night actions as both alignments. "bus alot to sicklucker" Im half tempted to use my power today to self pres because there is so few towns left that I acualy think as town my goal needs to be to play for survival so mafia can kill each other That first line, tho. Ugh. | ||
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On January 25 2016 07:01 sicklucker wrote: well let me know if we do. IF we dont im going to kill him I dont want to die Koshi. His V1 is an RB. But it depends on if he wants to use it on Onegu. Lynching him today avoids another bad bus but I don't wanna miss what could be a confirmed scum lynch. | ||
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On January 26 2016 08:51 Superbia wrote: Already know who I'm shooting tonight. :D RIP | ||
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On January 26 2016 08:52 kitaman27 wrote: Sorry for absence. It's been a hectic day. I'm town for what that matters. Probably my own fault for getting shot. You're all going to hate me for this, but I just realized that my "frame all" ability doesn't actually frame all, it frames everyone but my target. So when I got a town result on FF, I assumed that meant he was mafia because of the frame -_- Wtffff | ||
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Wait how did it come back as alignment anyway? If you got the full Role PM, it shouldn't mention alignment, just the role. | ||
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On January 26 2016 08:58 Damdred wrote: Didn't someone have a scum check on onegu or someone? And we thought was inverted cause of kita? I mean if what he says now is right we have that lynch but kita flips scum,here ff town. Then,who,knows what this means If he did in fact use the framing, it still frames everyone else besides his own track. So Onegu coming back scum would still mean he's town. Who claimed that tho? | ||
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On January 26 2016 08:51 The Shining wrote: Double scum flip GO | ||
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On January 26 2016 09:04 AlotSomuch wrote: Whooo, go team. Dying will is still that Onegu gets lynched tomorrow. Flowering ninjad | ||
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On January 26 2016 09:04 Superbia wrote: Oh man. I'm like 95% sure I'm shooting mafia tonight as well. :D I kinda like you, don't shoot me  | ||
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On January 26 2016 12:23 Onegu wrote: Shining I need to know if you are canceling your shot on alot and if you want to change it. It can't be cancelled, I would've had to do it the night I shot. He doesn't seem too invested or trying to solve this game. I'm also not sure I trust who you'd bus it to =/ | ||
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On January 26 2016 20:05 Rels wrote: Scum doc never protects his partner there because of info + tracker. If alot survives and Shining is town, there is one confirmed doc that is scum => and for what ? Protect an useless player. So if alot survives and since no doc would protect him, Shining is scum lying about his shot. OK it doesn't prove they're scum together, but alot is scum anyway for his play. I didn't lie about my shot and no way we're scum together. And we def wouldnt be same team. Could you explain why as scum I wouldn't just nk him to avoid being accused of lying about my shot? I can't because im not scum. Doh | ||
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On January 29 2016 09:41 Superbia wrote: I'm going to work a bit on my d&d campaign. Keir, Disfo, Tictock, Copcake and The Shining, I want you guys to name the 3-4 scum you believe are left in this game. Give some reason but don't make it too long. Before EoN or you may get shot. TY. I'm sorry, school started back up and I've been swamped. My irl stuff that I don't want to really get into has gotten pretty bad lately too. I've been trying to keep up with the thread but it's been hard to find time to filter dive and gather thoughts. I can probably name 3, since I think GB was scum. But I still think Cop has to die. She feels like scum hiding behind her useless posts and very limited reads. And her flipping would give us the flip info on GB as well. Another double scum flip from what should be different teams would be perfect. Then there's Rels. The way he was treating me regarding my shot was pretty weird and he hasn't even mentioned me from what I recall since Alot flipped. If I get a chance, I'd like to re-read him but from what I remember, he didn't have much sense of direction. I need to revisit that. Not sure if he's scum but he doesn't feel super townie. Last one is super tinfoily but I can't shake it. Now that Onegu flipped scum, I'm starting to feel like it's possible Koshi could be scum riding his mafia nuke into the sunset. He wanted to vote SL over Onegu and the way Onegu treated him d1 feels off. He also flopped his Onegu read a few times. Like what if Koshis team shot Koshi then Onegu bussed it onto geript? It's the best way to not get KP tracked. They could also have the tracker on their team, which implicates Keirathi, and would explain the Koshi nuke and why Kei hasn't gotten any track results for us. They track Holmes/Breshke, get the result on Kita and nuke him. Super tinfoily but it's enough to question why Koshi is so lock town with the Onegu flip. That's 4 right there, but I wouldn't lynch into Koshi or Keirathi without getting the Cop/GB flip because if they're both scum, they'd be opposite teams and Kita and FF were opposite teams. With Onegu as well, it means Onegu/Kei/Koshi don't fit in a team together unless one or both of GB/Cop is town. | ||
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On January 29 2016 11:23 Tictock wrote: One of these days I'm gunna make a crazy assed tinfoil theory that seems impossible but turns out to be pure gold. I think I just did it for you lol | ||
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On January 29 2016 12:14 Tictock wrote: Actually I think I tinfoiled pretty much everything you said already. Onegu was unable to target his own team with his bus ability though, I had the same thought but I just requoted the part of his role where it says that it's impossible on the last page. So Koshi is actually confirmed not mafia with Onegu. I do agree with the notion that Cake probably needs to die both for the real GB flip and the chance that she could be mafia lurking here. Ah hm good point. Yeah Onegu couldn't bus him then. But he did claim he'd save Koshi. I wonder if Onegu would have his own team shoot Koshi then bus it, then, makes a lot more sense. I still think there's something there with the Holmes track -> Kita nuke, though. | ||
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On January 29 2016 12:24 Tictock wrote: I had almost a full day to live that dream before i realized the truth, I posted that same idea almost 2 days ago. Lol well Damn. Thanks for not leaving me in the dark then. This is what happens when I can't be active. | ||
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On January 30 2016 09:16 sicklucker wrote: 3. Rels malcolm reynolds 8. Tictock garbage role or liar 12. Superbia I forget but obviously town 15. The Shining vig 17. sicklucker confirmed town or has a partner can never mathematically be lynched today 21. CopCake shovel 22. Palmar suspicious list guy So thats where we are at 3. Can't confirm. 8. Confirmed BH roleblock on town Doc Damdred, Damdred lost a vote. 12. CPR Doc, confirmed on shooting Disfo. 15. Vig confirmed on Alot shot. 17. SL role confirmed on Onegu duel. 21. Confirmed on GB shovel. 22. Palmar confirmed Arrow shot. The only role not really confirmed is Rels, unless I missed him stopping a kp? | ||
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On January 30 2016 08:31 Rels wrote: Palmar superbia sl disfo Palmar superbia Superbia So I have one charge left. Wait wait wait wait. Rels = scum. Palmar was supposedly bussed with Damdred n2. So Damdred shouldve gotten the protection Palmar would've gotten, since he supposedly got the shot that was directed at Palmar. Can someone who is better informed about bussing double check this? And it didn't look like there was any kp on Super that night so Palmar->Damdred would've been the protect. | ||
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On January 31 2016 05:51 Superbia wrote: Like I went over some scenarios where we miss (and assuming it's 5v1v1), and me shooting seems like the best option, but it's still really bad. We will never know without the GB flip if its 5v1v1 or 4v2v1 and you'll probably end up shooting town anyway | ||
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On January 30 2016 22:21 Rels wrote: You motherfucker don't post for dozen of hours but do'nt take the time to verify info before posting BS: You're so feisty though as if it isn't common knowledge that I haven't been able to fully read or keep up with this game at times. Good tone to take with someone, really does a lot for tone. Unless you think I'm scum, then it might make a teeny bit more sensense. But your poe was TT, Cop, SL. So you're just salty to be salty. Cool. On January 29 2016 18:17 Rels wrote: I'm kinda not caring for the game since it's already won. Palmar Superbia Koshia and I are town. I will protect them all tonight, so they can't be killed; so the only possible kill out of the obvious townies is me, which: 1 - is the best kill among the obvious townies since some people suspects me 2 - only happens if disfo is scum anyway, since if he's town he protects me while I protect the other. We're just going to CPR kill / lynch all the remaining person in the game until the win. Kinda not caring when this game is getting close to the end isn't a town characteristic. This is more likely to come from scum being read as town and trying not to do too much to jeopardize that. Meh I'm really gonna have to read this stupid long filter now. | ||
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On January 31 2016 06:16 Superbia wrote: Eh? If we miss on you I'm pretty certain it'd be Rels. But it's probably just you. What are your thoughts? My thoughts are every time you suggest lynching me, my townread gets a little weaker. My thoughts are you've spent a few posts today talking about lylo, numbers, setup, night actions that depend on a lot of moving parts and haven't explained what would make me scum, or Rels scum if I flip town. You are also certain that we are 5v1v1 when there are only 5 flipped scum and we don't know GBs alignment. You're putting a lot of thought and effort into something that could be misinformed from the very beginning. | ||
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I also live in a world where activity and interest this late in a game is just as likely to come from scum making plays to win. But that's just me. Palmar Super TT me town. If Supers theory is right, I know I'm town so Rels prob scum. Copcake is just as much POE/policy as I am if not moreso. If GB wasn't scum, SL probably could be. Idk do what you gotta do. I just hope the game doesn't end if we lynch town here. If lynching me makes it easier for town to win then w.e | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:13 sicklucker wrote: Ticktock/mod - your alerted if he accepts your roleblock correct? sorry I dont know how to do fancy green writing I don't think TT said which one Damdred picked, so I dont think so | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:27 Palmar wrote: well, you would be notified if he didn't get a vote or if he controlled your vote right? please figure it out What I'm saying is the banned person Is notified, I dont think BH is. TT didn't know and Damdreds vote wasn't excluded until the eod post iirc | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:06 sicklucker wrote: so we can confirm it through the eod vote count? Yes through tomorrow's eod count. That means trusting TT actually bans me today and I choose the rb tonight, which I'm perfectly okay with. But if Rels end up flipping town, which I don't see happening, and I get CPRd tonight, im pretty sure we lose. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote: Again he would have killed me. (maybe im lying mafia scum and hes going to make me go boom tonight? that would be hilarious) You should've died when he did if you were bombed | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:11 Rels wrote: Why am I getting lynched btw ? Palmar sl shining I want to know your reasons Honestly it's the good logic from Super and Palm 're: the kp carrier. I know it wasn't me so it had to be you. But your tinfoil theory here isn't impossible. Not likely at, all, though, since he also could've bombed someone who is dead or done nothing n2. I wish you hadn't waited until you were being lynched to come up with this so it wouldn't feel like you r just trying to survive. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:28 Superbia wrote: Wait I'm actually not following the discussion right now. Why do we think Koshi both blocked a KP AND madhatted keir? We don't. That's the discussion. One ort the other happened n2. But it isn't that he blocked the kp, it's that he could've blocked scum. Or hattered Keir. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:28 sicklucker wrote: Yes I had a second look he can roleblock each night. Can someone explain what a madhatter is? He can't roleblock on the same night he hatters. When he dies, the person he hatted dies with him. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:30 Superbia wrote: If he blocked scum then how the fuck did we see 3kp. Rels theory. You shoot Disfo. 1 scum kp Koshi. Hatter on Keir. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:33 Superbia wrote: He can't do both. He can't roleblock AND hatter. The hatter on Keir would've happened n2 | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:46 Rels wrote: I can confirm maf hatter works like that, as can anybody with experience can: like palmar sl etc If a mad hatter puts a bomb on someone that person will die when the mad hatter dies even if its 3 days later This is correct | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:54 Superbia wrote: Wait. The shining, why are you voting for Rels if you've been defending his stance on Koshi's actions? Explaining them to you since you weren't caught up is different than defending them. I already said I was sheeping the logic from you and Palmar that one of us was the kp carrier. It isn't me so it has to be him. | ||
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On February 01 2016 09:02 Superbia wrote: Honestly for me the reason was him bringing up all kinds of logic all of a sudden when he's getting lynched while he could've been bringing that shit up all day. That's what I said. I find it funny I've been borderline useless all game but I've voted every scum and my reads weren't bad. Just wish I had more time | ||
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On February 01 2016 09:11 Palmar wrote: you got TT's thing? will you roleblock yourself tonight? I can confirm I got the ban. I will be taking the RB and won't have a vote tomorrow. I'm town vig with no shots, there's literally no reason not to. Inb4 scum no shoots and pushes me Lmao | ||
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I'll be confirmed after this whole TT thing. And I think he is town tbh. I liked his posts today | ||
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On February 01 2016 09:25 Palmar wrote: kinda scummy you think my guesswork team means this. This could def come from scum SL actually. This late in the game he can't afford me to live and be confirmed town and he can't shoot me because there are stronger townies to shoot. | ||
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Wifom but Palmar was tring me, I'd never shoot him as scum. I was roleblocked. And I'd honestly probably sheep TT on Super. It's definitely one of Super/SL. The no concession means last scum is townread heavily. That's obviously not me. Lynching me today is stupid, I am town and won't be the reason we lose, Fuck that. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:41 Superbia wrote: Right. The town between you two will need to realize that the only way we have a chance to lose this game is if we sleep or lynch me. But whatever, we'll get there tomorrow. There is 1 scum left. If we sleep, there would be 1 NK if you don't shoot and 3 left tomorrow with 1 scum. How is that a loss? | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:48 sicklucker wrote: it was because there was 1kp. we know cake didnt deliver the kp so it had to be you or shininng because you were not roleblocked. you following? How do we know cake didn't deliver kp? | ||
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Its probably super and if we mislynch, the game is over because he won't protect the person he's shooting. Or if by some magic he's town, he'd have to protect the person scum is shooting, which won't happen bcuz they just shoot him. Stupid. Mislynch = loss. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:57 Superbia wrote: Why is it not TT, the shining? The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum. If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon. | ||
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On February 02 2016 09:02 Superbia wrote: You do realize there is like 48 hours left before this game ends for all kinds of feelings to change. Oh and not to mention that the only way for mafia to win is to either miss-lynch me or SL or sleep. A mislynch on anyone loses the game, I just proved that. And sleeping only loses us the game if you're scum. So yeah. | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:01 sicklucker wrote: wait ticktock I think we can kill super today. Then we can confirm if shining is town. Then if shining agrees to this plan if hes town we can kill you Why does no one understand that with 4 left, there is no tomorrow. | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:03 sicklucker wrote: IF theres no mafia kp tonight shinings town. We can verify this through vote action. So i think from my pov I have to kill one of you... as much as it sucks your both playing really well Rels also played well. Rels was scum | ||
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I also already explained why scumSuper would no shoot last night as well. Knows I'm rb. Has 2 kp so only uses one, puts the missing one blame on me. | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:10 sicklucker wrote: but if i lynch super im afraid of losing to ticktock since a town shining probably votes against me in final 3 damn Gajbdbdjagajdndbajj there's 4 of us. THERE IS NO FINAL 3 IF WE ML TODAY, SCUM SHOOTS TONIGHT, 1v1=TOWN LOSS | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:11 sicklucker wrote: does shinings vote not count today or tomorrow if he choose that option? today right? My vote wouldn't count today. But it does bcuz I took the rb instead. | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:15 Superbia wrote: IF IM MAFIA I DONT NO-SHOOT. ITS FUCKING HORRIBLE BECAUSE IF YOURE THE OTHER MAFIA TOWN GAINS ANOTHER LYNCH. NOT IF YOU'RE BANKING ON COP BEING THE OTHER MAFIA. I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:24 sicklucker wrote: If im understanding the situation correctly. IF you both vote super I have no choice to vote him anyway. Because if we mislynch we lose, and if we sleep super wins This Is correct. Unless you think Super Is town and trust his shot. But that's the worst end game ever and he isn't town anyway | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:29 sicklucker wrote: shining you think supers the mafia? Yes. It's either you or Super and you seem to be thinking about the facts being brought, even though you can't seem to grasp that we're in lylo. Super is stuck on a contingency plan of shooting or lynching TT and myself. Without giving any sort of case for why I should be lynched. It feels like he is just hedging bets and doesn't care because if we go through with his plan regardless of who is lynched, he wins. He's also the only one that is likely to no shoot because he still has kp through his role, too. No shoot, point out I'm rbd, easy plays | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:32 sicklucker wrote: acualy if shinings mafia he has no vote today because he would have lied about taking roleblock. so i acualy hold the hammer between shining/super great... If I'm scum, why would I lie about taking the rb and then no shoot? There was Cop and one other scum alive. Most likely not on the same time. That would've been 3 kp with Supers shot, not 2. But I didn't shoot cuz I can't shoot cuz I'm not scum. And my vote still counts cuz idc about being rbd because I don't have night actions. | ||
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Honestly TTs defense of me is pretty accurate and not weird to me. He obviously read my filter and instead of finding reasons to scum me, which Super can't do but SL tried to do, he found things that make me town. The only way I lynch TT is if I decide that's a pocket attempt but it really doesn't feel like it. I'd probably lynch Super but SL apparently never will so we'll end up being forced to sleep. If super is scum, that's 2 kp, gg. I don't trust those odds. And all this back and forth is getting tiring. SL is hard towning Super the way TT is hard towning me. Super is hedging on one lynch, one shot. TT actually has a scum read. With thought out cases and posts. I don't agree with super that TT is being not townie. He seems the most townie to me. | ||
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Lol you seem to be the one that wants me dead the most. Why don't you? | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:43 Superbia wrote: Do you think you've been particularly town this game? Go read my 20 other town games. I'm as town as I always am. I lynch scum, I make posts when I'm able to be around, I catch people pushing me for no reason like you are. I don't see what the motivation is behind this question. It's something you would be deciding if your town, not asking me | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:44 Superbia wrote: I'm just literally baiting out to see what his read on you is. You don't think it's suspicious at all that he's hard reading you town in MYLO after deciding YOU were the one who had to be roleblocked JUST the day before. Except he's already made his read abundantly clear. And no I don't. I was the biggest question mark left and everyone in the thread leaned on him to RB me to confirm me. Now that it's done, both of us end up on the chopping block. Go figure. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:47 sicklucker wrote: Shining how is he pushing you for no reason? his poe list is down to two people. and he happens to have 2kp... That doesn't make me scum. Nothing he's said makes me scum except for a poe which has me in it so it isn't bad. He's picking on TT for hard defending me when he hasn't gone back to ree evaluating you. Basically the same thing. He hasn't mentioned a single thing in my filter that objectively makes me scum because he prob hasn't read it. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote: No. I want to know if you think it's justified that TT is reading you town in MYLO. I already answered this. And TT has played with me before so it isn't as far fetched as you make it out to be. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:52 sicklucker wrote: he doesint make you scum but it means he has auto and doesint give a fuck... Or he has auto as scum and doesn't give a Fuck and refuses to read filters because this game is on auto for a scum win. | ||
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On February 03 2016 16:51 sicklucker wrote: Like I would literally play how hes playing (trying to get my two lynchings and not caring about anything else) Infact im doing that. im also not giving shining this win. super can have it. hes struggled to post alot as mafia in the past and was very obvious when I caught him in my first mafia game in final 3 (altho i couldnt get him lynched) This is the shittiest non logic ever. SL you're gonna throw and I'm gonna bm you so hard for it. Indefinitely. You had the fucking nerve to shit on me for being useless before this game even really got started and then you expect me to be interested in playing with an arrogant sob like you. Now you're literally saying let's give scum Super a win. You are so Damn bad, and a douche towards me since this game started. Literally Fuck you. Just lynch me. I'm done with this game. I swear to god I hope you are town so I can call you bad and blame this loss on you forever. | ||
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On February 04 2016 03:58 sicklucker wrote: your so useless but dont worry ill win town the game K | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:04 sicklucker wrote: super maybe you thought shining was roleblocked last night and wanted to frame him for auto? Because I never said this ever before | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:08 sicklucker wrote: shining is being a big baby that I scum read him and calling me names. This is my probelm with you. you do nothing (thats fine w/e there are alot of inactive players here) But then when people scum read you for doing nothing you still do nothing except you make angry posts. Like its such a shit meta and im sorry im not one of your click who townread you for it but its such a shit meta and you should be scumread for. That being said I might not even lynch you here and thats sad. I might even lynch this super tryhard player super who has played a flawless game and I have zero reason to scum read just because im starting to think ticktock is more town then him Gives reads. Lynches scum. Does nothing. K. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:17 Superbia wrote: Can you refute my logic on why I would never roleblock you? The one in my big post just now. You can't roleblock me. I think you misphrased here. You don't have an rb role | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:21 sicklucker wrote: see the word of a potential scum on himself means notihng great you said that I ignored. I was just more thinknig under the logic that you as mafia would know there was a second mafia team left and probably come to the conclusion that tomorrow would be lylo so roleblocking yourself would be wrong Except I wasnt talking about myself only. I was talking about Super framing me because he knew I'd take the rb. If I'm scum, I never give up my only kp. Super is basically confirmed scum. There is no way any team with a qt is going to allow town to have an extra kp and risk losing their auto win. It's way too unlikely. And look at all of Supers walls of text. He's not being clear and concise. They're just there as misleading distractions. Even the follow up questions have no aim. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:30 Superbia wrote: I have shown with absolute perfect logic that if I was in the scum position last night, no-shooting is super insanely bad. But let's just ignore it. Or you stacked on Palmar and are now using the no shoot excuse. You even encouraged Palmar to not post during the night phase. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:40 Tictock wrote: @ Shining What is your read on SL? He was one of my two poe scum but he's progressively gotten more townie this day, where Superbia hasnt. Regardless of whatever SL has against me, which he's made abundantly clear multiple times this game, I like the way he's been looking at you and Super objectively. Normally I'd find all the flopping questionable but this is basically mylo and he's not just pulling out random speculations. He's reading filters, using meta, revisiting things that were already saidd today. He's basically doing everything I would expect him to do as town, even if I don't really don't like the way he's gone about me. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote: This is so backwards. You've been pushing me for no-shooting. I agree that a stack on Palmar was likely if you're town because I don't think a team of 2 with copcake +1 is likely. I also explained that TT would have likely not held his shot due to his EoN post. Also I specifically told Palmar to leave a legacy at EoN. What I meant by no shoot excuse is the logic you used to defend that you would not no shoot. Yes I believed you could and would still no shoot to frame me but it's also possible you just stacked on Palmar and used the missing kp to push me anyway. Yes you said leave a legacy but you also explicitly discouraged discussion multiple times, essentially allowing the last scum to hide and not have to post anything. You as scum would have the most to gain from that. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:58 Superbia wrote: TT you need to do your action on The Shining before EoD in case we still want to go through with SL's plan btw. Still trying to keep your auto intact, I see. It's pretty awesome that I keep getting called useless but no one has read my Damn posts and hasn't figured out THAT TTS ROLE IS TWO SHOT AND HE ALREADY BANNED TWICE. DAMDRED AND ME. Add that to reasons I don't think you're town. | ||
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On February 04 2016 05:03 sicklucker wrote: shit I forgot about this. super use your time to see if any mafia in this game had the power to alignment check tt or whatever Scum investigative roles went to Kita, FF and Disfo. Kita outed FF and died same day as him. It was brought up that Moriarty FF and Watson Disfo were on the same team and killed Breshke to protect their checks. Watson would get the sanity on Breshke Holmes and FF Moriarty and the alignment checks, not who, but if FF and Disfo were scum together, FF would share his checks with his qt, most likely. If they got a scum check on TT, they would've pushed it. | ||
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On February 04 2016 05:07 Tictock wrote: WoT, but I'm not gunna let it blow up the page. Still smaller than the last one. + Show Spoiler + On February 02 2016 08:39 The Shining wrote: I knew Cop was scum. Good shyt. Wifom but Palmar was tring me, I'd never shoot him as scum. I was roleblocked. And I'd honestly probably sheep TT on Super. It's definitely one of Super/SL. The no concession means last scum is townread heavily. That's obviously not me. Lynching me today is stupid, I am town and won't be the reason we lose, Fuck that. Fairly Meh, I'm not sure I believe there is any real passion behind that last line. On February 02 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote: There is 1 scum left. If we sleep, there would be 1 NK if you don't shoot and 3 left tomorrow with 1 scum. How is that a loss? This I totally agree with, actually there's a few good questions here in his filter I like. On February 02 2016 08:56 The Shining wrote: Whichever one of you is town is a flower and the other is happy scum. Good shit. Its probably super and if we mislynch, the game is over because he won't protect the person he's shooting. Or if by some magic he's town, he'd have to protect the person scum is shooting, which won't happen bcuz they just shoot him. Stupid. Mislynch = loss. This is what I have been saying but this looks like Shining isn't just straight parroting or anything here. Not sure if the slight misconception about Super's role means anything, but it is consistent with how Shining has gotten role stuff mixed up a little before (mostly with my Ban on damdred, and a little on it last night). On February 02 2016 09:00 The Shining wrote: The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum. If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon. Again, this post is pretty on point. It could be he is just rolling with the fact that I've hard townread him most of the game. Biggest thing to me is just that he is looking at things from multiple points of view. Yea I don't wanna quote everypost, but I agree with all the points TS is bringing up in #5045, #5098, #5100. Kinda Meh about this post too. On February 02 2016 11:11 The Shining wrote: Whoever thinks I'm scum should also really tell me what team I'm on. I've wanted Cop dead forever. I tried to get Rels lynched before anyone off of what I thought was a slip(his protect list). I was all in for the double scum flip. Like srsly there is no world I'm scum in this game On the one hand I agree with it as my earlier filter dives showed pushes and scumreads on the right people and enough that they had to have come from different teams. Then again if scum TS would be aware that his filter supports that. Eh still more towny imo, this is a hard enough game without scum selling out their own team. On February 02 2016 11:25 The Shining wrote: NOT IF YOU'RE BANKING ON COP BEING THE OTHER MAFIA. I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO Idk this response feels real. On February 02 2016 11:27 The Shining wrote: This Is correct. Unless you think Super Is town and trust his shot. But that's the worst end game ever and he isn't town anyway Ok Last post kus I'm almost at the present. Here is what bugs me at this point. Shining is talking to SL like he is town, he TR's me, and he agrees with basically everything I posted EoN onwards. In fact it's hard for me to really get a full sense of TS's own thoughts becasue I'm just seeing a lot of my own points coming from him. It's also weird to me that Shining hasn't voted if he's as convinced that Super is scum as he seemed to be in that last post. At worst though this still just leaves me uneasy, but leaning town on Shining. I've been hoping to see more clear thought and effort from him though, given we are at endgame here. I voted this morning | ||
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On February 04 2016 05:08 sicklucker wrote: Man if ticktock is scum he bussed so hard. but his motivations today are scummy because if hes scum he has to get super lynched He's apparently been through my filter and recent posts multiple times. He had ample opportunity to flop his read on me, ML and win the game as scum. | ||
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On February 04 2016 05:22 sicklucker wrote: no dude your wrong. super has a gun. if your lynched super shoots ticktock everytime This is a good point but then I fall back to a world where there is no way a scum QT allows this to even be a possibility. Scum never shoots town Palmar with no useful night actions vs Superbia. Scum never leaves town with a CPR Doc with an extra kp to solve the game by auto or a possible protection if they stack on the CPR target. I am convinced there is no world where townSuper doesn't die last night phase. | ||
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On February 04 2016 05:38 sicklucker wrote: Ticktock I asked you to check out supers night 2 missing kp/rb. Super I asked you to see if any mafia had a power to know TT;s alignment because FF or kita called TT mafia right before they flipped. Maybe shining can do this if hes around? Read my recent posts. I made a post about the scum investigative roles | ||
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On February 04 2016 05:14 The Shining wrote: Scum investigative roles went to Kita, FF and Disfo. Kita outed FF and died same day as him. It was brought up that Moriarty FF and Watson Disfo were on the same team and killed Breshke to protect their checks. Watson would get the sanity on Breshke Holmes and FF Moriarty and the alignment checks, not who, but if FF and Disfo were scum together, FF would share his checks with his qt, most likely. If they got a scum check on TT, they would've pushed it. This one | ||
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On February 04 2016 05:54 sicklucker wrote: Like I wantes to know if it was possible FF checked TT or whoever. like was there a missing check and enough nights? Breshke died n1, no check there. FF was told his sanity was the one that didn't give alignments but told him what mc role was in the game. Kitas check n1 was FF. Both died d2. So no I don't think TT was ever redchecked | ||
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On February 04 2016 06:28 sicklucker wrote: Shining and super really need to batlle it out here. I do have the hammer you know.. reading some more probably supers filter again to remind me hes probably town Lol you are waffling all over the place. Do what you need to do but I'm sure TT is right and so am I. And Super ditched the thread right when I got to work and started posting more. So Idk what I'm supposed to battle out here. | ||
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On February 04 2016 06:50 sicklucker wrote: Like if we lose because I vote you here shining your equally responsible dont think otherwise Not at all. You've played with me more than enough times, including my last scum game because you were scum with me, to be able to accurately read me and know what I'm doing and the motivation behind my posts. You vote me, it's all on you and I will never let you say otherwise. | ||
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On February 04 2016 06:54 sicklucker wrote: Shinings entire reason to townread TT is because hes not voting shining and thats false logic. and I dont think your trying to think about it since I told you thats not true? It's part of my town read on him but I already responded to you about this,I said it was a good point but it doesn't explain why scum lets a CPR Doc live until endgame. You just have a really annoying way of literally reading none of my posts. I also think TTs posting and cases have a lot of sense behind them and his reads have been pretty good. I have trouble believing he flawlessly bussed multiple members of his team this game if he were scum. His WOTs this phase are very sensical and easy to follow and points that I actually agree with about Super. Super has WoTs that are unclear, hedge a lot and have no concise aim. They're just there to distract and use singular points of logic to defend himself instead of looking at the entire game to find scum. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:16 sicklucker wrote: I dont think i was scum with you Battle Of The Drams. Me, you, Rels. We conceded. I did absolutely nothing that game and the second I was scummed, I afkd. I'm flattered if you think I can magically change that from one scum game to the next. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:15 sicklucker wrote: i agree that it was rels/dis/cake vs ff/onegu and one of super and the shining. super makes sense but why cant it be the shining? They both took 6.1 from me and purposely tanked there number pick Where do kita and vivax end up then? And you're still salty about the number thing lol I gave you ample time to change and I wasn't TRing you yet. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote: I honestly tried with TT. The Shining is a brick wall. I usually am when I think I know who the last scum is in endgame. In 3 different endgames, I've cased 3 scum and gotten 2 of them lynched and won. Was NKd and someone threw the other, but I cased the right one. Here, I haven't had the time to make a case but my conviction is no less certain. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:08 Superbia wrote: If we're no-lynching I'm not shooting. You guys can figure it out tomorrow then. And this coupled with his other posts is so scummy. You are stuck voting me and you have a shot. If you really are town with kp and think I'm scum, you'd shoot me tonight. Not no shoot. You're wavering on TT hard without any real explanation but are staying locked in on your vote on me and calling me a brick wall because I won't case my town reads. You did the same thing to TT. Now you're appealing to SL. You have no direction here. You are scum. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:36 sicklucker wrote: Shining reminding me of that mafia game reminds me you kind of played that game like this one... Negative. Go re-read it if you need to. And read my latest post on Super. You really need to get past your bias on me and realize who the scum is here. | ||
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But you're voting me. Obvious scum is obvious | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:31 sicklucker wrote: but this game every dead townie called super scum? you should probably try a little harder? palmer specifically said to lynch you in this sitation over me or super. He was even more sure super was town then me Palmar is another you and Rels and ritoky, AKA TRASH AT READING ME. And you still can't tell me why scum me or scum TT would leave a CPR DOC ALIVE IN ENDGAME | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:41 Superbia wrote: Right. It's between you and TT. I feel like it could still be TT. You do realize that the only way town can still win is if I force the draw because TT is gone, right? SL is convinced TT is town. He can figure it out tomorrow. Except forcing the draw if you're scum with 2 kp is your win condition. The only way town wins is lynching you. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:42 sicklucker wrote: Also shining it does not matter who we even vote today... the point is to get the draw The draw is what Superbia wants. It's his win condition. Jesus Christ | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote: you said it yourself you afked last time you were mafia and things were going bad. also your roleblocked? also cop would have shot palmar because she didnt give a fuck or know what she was doing I afkd the last 24 hours of the phase I was being lynched. I haven't afkd any lynches here, whether it was scum or me today. Wtf are you talking about? If I'm scum, I never take that roleblock. I shoot Super to get rid of that kp/possible save and hope town pushes a mislynch. You'd never know until eod that I didn't take the rb. That's stupid. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote: like im not even sure if thats a scum slip or a dumbtell.. but im going to vote you anyway You really deserve this loss. But I think you're town so you need to pull your head out of the dark place it's at and get over whatever it is you have against me because TT doesn't deserve the loss and I don't want to. It's like you're not even objectively reading my posts. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:48 Superbia wrote: If you don't take the roleblock you get 100% lynched today.. If I don't take the roleblock, you don't confirm it until EoD. So there was no way of knowing. Horrible argument. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:48 sicklucker wrote: Like if supers town hes giving me the final 3 hammer and will get nked . If hes mafia hes won. Either way you need a different angle HE'S MAFIA. HE WINS. IM NOT OKAY WITH THAT AND I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ARE. HE DOESN'T CARE WHO YOU VOTE, AS LONG AS IT ISN'T HIM. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:52 Superbia wrote: Lol. You can figure it out tomorrow. I just literally want to get out of this game. No offense dude but you're going to do your own shit at the EoD. I know you. I recommend taking a good hard look at TT. Like really fucking thorough. MORE PANDERING TO YOU. HOW DEEP DOES THIS POCKET GO? | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:53 Superbia wrote: Elaborate. I don't exactly get your point here. You have 0 way to prove whether I take the roleblock or not because the vote isn't excluded until the EoD post if I didn't. Theoretically no one knows if I did in fact take the roleblock or not. So how does it make me 100% lynched? You are just making things up now | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:53 sicklucker wrote: im totally ok with it. But I still want to win if your town you need to fight I am but I apparently can't get through to you. It's like you see it but you refuse to. Idk what else I can do to make it clear for you. Just look at the change in tone from his WoTs to now he's just sucking up to you. Now he's sure it's TT so he wants the draw but he says he won't shoot at night. HOW IS THAT TOWNIE? | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:56 Superbia wrote: Wait really? I thought it would show up in the vote count. I've lost count of how many times I've mentioned things that no one seems to realize. It's like I'm a flowering ghost. D2. Damdred gave up his vote to avoid the RB. His vote was in every D2 vote count until the EOD vote count in which it showed up Excluded. And again, one or two stances of unawareness might be acceptable. But you using multiple wrong things to try and prove something scummy about me is a giveaway. You're scum. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Lol all you have to do is open the database ctrl F shining | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
this fucking post is acualy so bad and I dont think a town would ever post it [/QUOTE] That's Super talking to his now #1 scumread. Outstanding | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 04 2016 08:30 sicklucker wrote: Like what town thinks like this fuck this game i might sheep tt afterall because im not sure and he tried so hard ^_^ What town with a shot thinks "screw this, good luck guys, I won't shoot who I think is scum(and I'm not voting who I think is scum) tonight. You guys can figure it out tomorrow." | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 04 2016 08:39 sicklucker wrote: why do you only try to convince tt your town and not shining Because I'm a brick wall. And he needs to convince his #1 scum read that he's town. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
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The Shining
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Good fucking job dude | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 04 2016 09:05 Palmar wrote: There is literally no way mafia does not shoot superbia, thus giving town an extra kp. I literally said this but ppl like to have boners for me and ignore very blatant very good very obvious information | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 04 2016 09:09 sicklucker wrote: i doubt anyone blames me much. you didnt play great and i was mostly just spite not giving you the mafia win ;p I mean you call me useless but I, of all people, had to explain to you mechanics, rb stuff, lylo stuff, even find a game for you that's in both our game histories. You literally have no right to judge my play ever again | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
I apparently am doing something wrong when I vote scum 4x in lylo and only win two games. I will become a better me. (Lol) | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 04 2016 09:23 GreYMisT wrote: I would also like to point out for the future I don't care about language or the like in my games, I just don't like attacks on other players as players or people. I have seen too many players driven away or driven apart by this sort of behavior, and simply don't want my games to end like that. There were some transgretions but thank you all for quickly adapting to my wishes. It was a very fun game to host. A lot of the roles turned out as I had hoped them too, but I will say that I am very sad that we lost Nigella and the Deminsional lemming on night 1. There were also a couple of roles we worked for a while on that were never actually picked. Oh well. Nah It's a very fair point with very good reasoning behind it. I tend to get too passionate sometimes, anyway, a good reality check can be helpful. The warning over instamodkill is very appreciated, Tbh. There's always next time for those roles XD | ||
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