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sicklucker
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Superbia
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Basically it boils down to us having to sleep with me putting a KP on the shining if there's 1 kp (my cpr) during last night. Which would be super bad for mafia (especially if it's me, due to the fact that I have to to survive mafia kp that night as well) because town gets a free the shining lynch. So mafia would have to take a huge risk during the night no-shooting. | ||
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The Shining
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On February 02 2016 11:24 sicklucker wrote: If im understanding the situation correctly. IF you both vote super I have no choice to vote him anyway. Because if we mislynch we lose, and if we sleep super wins This Is correct. Unless you think Super Is town and trust his shot. But that's the worst end game ever and he isn't town anyway | ||
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Superbia
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On February 02 2016 11:25 The Shining wrote: NOT IF YOU'RE BANKING ON COP BEING THE OTHER MAFIA. I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO Yes but I wouldn't. I'm really tired of this. I'm a super logical player. If I am mafia I'm not going all-in on 1 fact. | ||
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Superbia
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On February 02 2016 11:24 sicklucker wrote: If im understanding the situation correctly. IF you both vote super I have no choice to vote him anyway. Because if we mislynch we lose, and if we sleep super wins No. | ||
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Superbia
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On February 02 2016 11:28 sicklucker wrote: no if i side with super I can sleep but we only get one lynch instead of two. but super still gets lynched so ill have two lynches still. This is probably the safe path is it the one i will choose... You don't have two lynches if you lynch me. You will lose the game. We only have two lynches because I have a shot. | ||
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sicklucker
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great... | ||
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The Shining
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On February 02 2016 11:29 sicklucker wrote: shining you think supers the mafia? Yes. It's either you or Super and you seem to be thinking about the facts being brought, even though you can't seem to grasp that we're in lylo. Super is stuck on a contingency plan of shooting or lynching TT and myself. Without giving any sort of case for why I should be lynched. It feels like he is just hedging bets and doesn't care because if we go through with his plan regardless of who is lynched, he wins. He's also the only one that is likely to no shoot because he still has kp through his role, too. No shoot, point out I'm rbd, easy plays | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 02 2016 11:32 sicklucker wrote: acualy if shinings mafia he has no vote today because he would have lied about taking roleblock. so i acualy hold the hammer between shining/super great... If I'm scum, why would I lie about taking the rb and then no shoot? There was Cop and one other scum alive. Most likely not on the same time. That would've been 3 kp with Supers shot, not 2. But I didn't shoot cuz I can't shoot cuz I'm not scum. And my vote still counts cuz idc about being rbd because I don't have night actions. | ||
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sicklucker
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Tictock
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On February 02 2016 11:26 Superbia wrote: I'm going to sleep. I was making a post to prove your point wrong SL, but I really can't be bothered at this time in the night anymore. My logic is actually deteriorating as I post. I'm not sure if this is 100% correct anymore, I'm pretty sure it is though. Basically it boils down to us having to sleep with me putting a KP on the shining if there's 1 kp (my cpr) during last night. Which would be super bad for mafia (especially if it's me, due to the fact that I have to to survive mafia kp that night as well) because town gets a free the shining lynch. So mafia would have to take a huge risk during the night no-shooting. Lets just assume I'm right for a second and look at last night if Super and Cake are mafia from differen't teams. In this case Mafia has 3 KP when it is 4v2. Super with 2 KP and Cake with one. Cake knows it's 50/50 chnace that she gets shot by Super over me (actually after my post on Cake last night it should have been fairly obviuse Cake was the only correct shot) but knows it's prob over, she likely decided to put KP out there. Which actually in this case it seems like Cake would have shot Super over Palmar. So either Cake decided Palmar was worth the longshot or she didn't bother to submit KP. Super as mafia would def be trying his best to hit the remianing mafia. I think Cake is aruably the only real shot he can make so thats kinda locked in. Now in the off chance Cake is not mafia Super would prob not hold his KP just to make sure he hit the other mafia team, unless Super was almost positive that Cake is mafia. Then Super can either take out another town or, and here is where it gets interesting, hold his shot. Why hold his shot here? Well he knows Cake will be be shooting almost 100% of the time and unless she hits him both of them shooting, and a total of 3 KP going out, means it's final 3 today. So yes, Super holding his shot in that situation is benifitial due to 1) keeping one extra person in lylo to discuss 2) promoting WIFOM that either Cake was with the final mafia or that TS took the RB and lost a shot. I'm rather sold this is the world due to the fact that I strongly feel that one team was Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake which means the final mafia is from team Vivax/Onegu/FF, which Super fits into rather nicely. Now lets look at if I'm wrong and the teams are something like Rels/Dis/Kita/Vivax vs Onegu/Cake/FF/??? In this world there was only one mafia KP last night and they picked Palmar to kill even though Super said he was shooting Cake or me. In this case why does scum not Kill Super with no saves left on the table? Also in this world, from Super's point of view, final mafia has to be me right? TS was RB'd and Super seem pretty convinced that SL is town, so in this world to Super I am 100% mafia here, or he doesn't think Shining actually took the RB. But even though Super is argueing that this is the world we live in he is not reaching this conclusion. He thinks TS or I are mafia but doesn't really care who kus he "has auto" if he were town living in this world he should be wanting to verify that TS got RB'd, and then it should be easy for him to conclude that I must be scum with Cake. So the conclusion here is that either Super is mafia or if he is town I should be basically confirmed mafia to him. Thus I think we have to lynch either Super or myself today. + Show Spoiler + Tried to put this down in words before and I didn't think it made any sense. Hopefully after some sleep I was able to be coherent. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
The day you 1v1d Onegu Super never weighed in on the lynch. Both of which strike me as really odd since Super was admiment about killing VA for having an anti- town role, but doesn't care at all that Onegu had his role, or they way he claimed that role and wasted Alot's? Instead of even considering Onegu, super tried to shoot me, and GB made one of the best plays of the game by saving me via RBing Super. He's also brought up shooting me every night since, and only today does he drop that scumread on me. | ||
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Tictock
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I've actually never opened your filter this game SL. I wonder if I've actually gotten that good at reading you or if I'm fooling myself about what you would do as scum. | ||
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