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On January 13 2016 23:15 Half the Sky wrote: Welcome back Superbia <3 And you resolved to not be waffleboy after Dark Tournament hehe xD Thanks. :D PyPs usually have enough chaos/info/KP to not last aeons (hopefully ![]() | ||
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On January 19 2016 08:54 Onegu wrote: 1.1 is mine. I have surgery and wont be around to change the numbers. So get off it. You can change it now. | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:20 Koshi wrote: 4 mafia? Why not go for 7? They got 2 kp and some roles they can use. medic is always stronger in mafia hands in a setup like this anyway. tbh. It is maybe fair if there are more mafia in this game. Just more fun to play such a big themed game if you can coordinate. Fuck me. I am going to see if there is a role that can make a QT and I will make my own mafia faction. There are two mafia teams of 4. Dumbtells like last game we played. ![]() | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:28 Koshi wrote: I hope you got me as scum. Otherwise you are already 50% wrong. Nah. | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:48 Keirathi wrote: Kita: I had Watson as one of the more powerful roles. At least medium tier? Doc with the upside of getting all the cop checks when moriarty or holmes dies assuming they breadcrumbed. Holy shit that's actually huge. I think Watson claims d2. | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:56 Keirathi wrote: Wat. Why would he claim day 2? Yea, it can tell sherlock/moriarty their sanity, but it also denies him the chance to save more people and the sanity information can always be given out later or even after one or both of the others dies. It's a really strong role. No need to neuter it on day 2 for no reason :\ Nah fuck that. If all 3 (we should pick all 3) are alive d2 he outs instantly. Kp has been reduced to 2 (maybe +1 due to roles or w/e) and we should have other protection roles to protect him. Furthermore the 2kp is spread between 2 parties who can't communicate and are against each other. Besides, losing a protective role on n2 with a high possibility of 4 checks going into d3 is amazing. | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:54 Koshi wrote: Maybe it is better to distribute roles based on picks tbh. Dreamflower should never be picked as town. It is not good enough imo and mafia will NEVER pick it. If somebody picks it he is auto town Doesn't matter. Fact that I pick it essentially removes me from the pick order list and allows people below to pick more freely. | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:02 CopCake wrote: Sorry for not being super active :/ I found out on monday I had a new project which is I wanted to be out but I feel it would be pretty disrespectful to just leave like that. I promise that when I get out of work I will do my best! When is that? What numbers are you picking? | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:13 sicklucker wrote: your right palmar is probably scum but im a nice guy This shit doesn't even contradict rofl. Not entirely sure now. | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:23 Damdred wrote: Super why the postering on dreamflowet and then backing out? ? Read my post again lol. | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:21 Keirathi wrote: He literally hasn't said anything except what numbers he was picking and that he was going to shoot me if I pick 1,1 with him. I don't trust him enough to give him 1,1 for free, but I'm curious if he'll have the cojones to actually shoot me. Can you translate this to an alignment? Like does this lean him in any way for you? | ||
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Same for now. | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:34 Damdred wrote: Well atleadt I think SL is town now. Kei is basically confirmed town though Damd someone asked for your town leans earlier. Can you share? | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:36 sicklucker wrote: if you pick a role thats already been picked you become vt. its not my first rodeo Actually you become a rando role from the very bottom list. Forgot actual name. | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:37 Rels wrote: No read the OP again Probably means you're town (= I think you're town but this is incorrect. | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:40 Rels wrote: Again, dumbtells almost always comes from townies Not for SL tho. | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:47 Damdred wrote: Its half and half for SL dumbtells are a thing though. Kei Rels Suoer Geript Koshi SL tt to a lesser extent are my town pool currently the rest haven't caused me to remember them We have some overlap. That's good. ![]() | ||
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On January 20 2016 04:25 Rels wrote: Superbia why did you say dumbtelling is not town indicative for SL here ? Damdred same question concernening this post ? Played with the guy quite a bit and just.. feels like it. Tried to substantiate the claim after he said he only dumbtells as town and couldn't find a straight up dumbtell as mafia from his filters but couldn't really find one (though to be honest I only took 5m and only looked at the mafia game I was in as well). Still will hold to this point though. I feel like SL is more of a drifting player regardless of his alignment. Like he will only read specific parts of the game. So I don't think him dumbtelling is a towntell per say. | ||
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Also any reads so far FF? What do you think about my alignment? | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:09 Palmar wrote: Everyone above me needs to claim the role they're taking. Something to shoot you. Figure it out. | ||
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I don't think you're town. | ||
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I'm calling VA/Alot | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:26 Palmar wrote: Do you have anything to back that up because I really cba playing around dumb suspicions this game. Just a feeling based on expectations. We'll see how it ends up. | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:32 Palmar wrote: yeah please don't apply some dumb expectations to me, I play in huge amount of variety of ways all the way from completely inactive to super active, from trolling to serious. I can be meta read, but only by looking at why and how I'm doing the things I'm doing, not what I am doing. This game I'm trying to organize town I think. That feels like a thing I want to do now. Good. ![]() | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:28 Palmar wrote: The following players need to be assigned roles due to alignment: ceph vivax disfo fecal alot vayne shining glowingbear I like this list a lot. I think you can remove FF though. Not entirely sure yet. | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:39 Palmar wrote: are faction kp roleblockable? Yeh I believe so. | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:38 Superbia wrote: Maybe add +breshke and +copcake to the list. | ||
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I don't think you should've been reading VA town via that association. | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:42 Palmar wrote: I don't really want you picking dreamflower superbia Why? Because of the whole "give it to scum" thing? | ||
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Because I think it's NAI. Do you have a scum read on alot? | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:49 Palmar wrote: How certain are we keirathi is town? (I'm going to filter him right now, answer while I do it pls). He's in my lean town list. Though tbh he's only there bc of activity + my town has called him town. Needs some looking into. | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:51 Breshke wrote: No I didn't even remember any of alots posts until I just went and looked then. However why does mafia VA use his pick to overlap with someone and announces it to the thread. Because why not? It's been said before that scum actually probably doesn't want top pick because it makes them more likely to be hit by KP (2 mafia teams) and puts them in the spotlight. So why not block some random (or a team mate) and try to get some towncred. I actually think it's more likely that they're together. | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:57 Fecalfeast wrote: mnehh I don't know how much I trust you thinking you can read me that easily still Ezread. Don't have it yet though. But I will if you keep posting. | ||
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Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan: 1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir. 2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh). 3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons. 4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die). | ||
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On January 20 2016 22:13 Palmar wrote: The guy who makes the mayor election seems like a good role too, it helps protect town leaders etc. Meh. Priority in Investigative/Prot/KP imo. | ||
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On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote: Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now. Yeah but if they KP gambler other investigative/KP/Prot roles are fine. | ||
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On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote: Superbia what do you think of Breshke ? Meh. I kind of liked him questioning my question but that's literally all I liked. Prob slight scum-lean. | ||
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On January 20 2016 22:17 Superbia wrote: Yeah but if they KP gambler other investigative/KP/Prot roles are fine. safe* | ||
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On January 20 2016 23:34 kitaman27 wrote: Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe). Moreover I'm not sold on giving Breshke the Watson role. There's more than enough bullshit roles that can invert alignments or targets (dr sy n tist being one of them) so blame can always be shifted. Regardless of breshke's actual alignment. Watson needs to be 99% reliable. | ||
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On January 20 2016 23:41 Superbia wrote: Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe). Moreover I'm not sold on giving Breshke the Watson role. There's more than enough bullshit roles that can invert alignments or targets (dr sy n tist being one of them) so blame can always be shifted. Regardless of breshke's actual alignment. Watson needs to be 99% reliable. | ||
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On January 20 2016 23:44 kitaman27 wrote: yep yep, I'll also claim during the night if I do choose to frame and then I'll show up on any watchers and stuff (I'm assuming I visit every player) to confirm no tomfoolery. I don't think it's a choice. It's part of the action. You'll frame everyone. | ||
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On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote: Yo real quick before I get back to work: Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan: 1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir. 2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh). 2.5) Gambler RNGs a target within this list. 3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons. 4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die). | ||
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On January 20 2016 23:51 kitaman27 wrote: This seems solid. For number three, I think it is important that we tell them exactly who to pick. If we leave it up to them then they can pick a townie of their choice to kill and try to justify it. Since those 2-3 players don't know if they were actually targeted, they can't move their vote off a mafia at end of day if they know they're caught. Another option we have is to force the strongest scum suspect to be the gambler. If town feels that the gambler is still mafia by the end of day one, we force the gambler target to vote for the gambler, killing them both. Otherwise, we pick the target for the gambler voter. If either player refuses to follow through, we policy lynch since the final vote count will show the +0 and +2. I think I kinda like my version better. Thoughts? I actually love your version. That's even better. It also leaves the roles open of townie-esque people to pick more powerful stuff. 100% on board. | ||
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On January 20 2016 10:10 Palmar wrote: 1. Keirathi - Protective or investigative. 2. Superbia - CPRDoc 3. ObiWanShinobi - Investigative 4. Rels - Investigative or KP. 5. Palmar - Investigative or protective. 6. geript - Hardest time deciding tbh. I think investigative. 7. Breshke - Straight up protective, Doctor would be great. 8. Koshi - Protective or investigative. No shennanie weird role. Straight up something like Kitaman27 to check for a scummy role. 9. Cephiro - One of my primary lynch atm so don't really want to waste dreamflower. 10. kitaman27 - Don't mind him picking dr. sy n. tist as long as he always uses his spybot d1. No excuses/questions. 11. Vivax - prime dreamflower target else something that absolutely cannot hurt town. 12. Tictock - Gambler targeting 11/15/16/17/18/19/22 (and who is not dreamflower). 13. disformation - prot mayb investigative 14. Fecalfeast - prot 15. Damdred - prot 16. AlotSomuch - One of my primary lynch atm so don't really want to waste dreamflower. 17. VayneAuthority - One of my primary lynch atm so don't really want to waste dreamflower. 18. The Shining - check/maybe dreamflower 19. Onegu - check/maybe prot 20. Sicklucker - Investigative. 21. Copcake - check/maybe prot 22. GlowingBear - prot/maybe dreamflower Meh. I'm confident in assigning maybe 6-7 hard roles to specific players. Rest idk. | ||
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On January 21 2016 03:23 Koshi wrote: These are all the roles I would probably enjoy. I want do not want to be given 1 role but a selection of many roles with many people. Some roles really suck if mafia knows that I got them. Hero Dr. Sy N. Tist (to not use it, and I might die early, anybody who dies early should take this I guess) Sherlock Holmes Professor Moriarty Captain Malcolm Reynolds Dr. House Werner Von Braun Dimensional Lemming Ezio Auditorie Tommy the Fireman The Arrow Meh. I'd give you Holmes/Dr. House/The Arrow to pick from that list tbh. And only if you promise to use the arrow's KP ability in consultation. | ||
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Palmar can you enlighten a bit more on your read on me? The most substantial thing is me flipping on you, but you already had a town read on me before that. Obi I don't really like you deny-picking. I'd prefer it if you get a decent town-role like an investigative or a protect role. Idk what's left at this point since I haven't really delved into Palmar's post yet. | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:09 Palmar wrote: Because I trust him more than other people. He'll shoot whoever I tell him to. Really? I have no real read on him. Don't recall anything from him. But if he listens then he listens I suppose. | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:16 Fecalfeast wrote: I'd rather be cooperative than get a gun but I do want a gun lol Moriarty is a pretty bad-ass dude. Not sure if you're up for the challenge. | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:19 Palmar wrote: Also CPR doc is not a strictly town role. It's fantastic for mafia ))) Pray. :D | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote: Nope I have my role picked in either lynch me or suffer the consequences for the fear mongering Damd why'd you want Nigella Lawson? | ||
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Please do me a favor and pick doctor here =/. | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:46 kitaman27 wrote: Who here thinks these three statements could possibly follow a logical sequence from a town Palmar? It's impossible. EBWOP the second quote should be under palmar's name not mine. I think it makes sense from a town perspective to have some people check-pick near end of the list. Assuming they're not all aligned (decent assumption), it puts some pressure on mafia to pick what they're told and not pick some super scummy role. | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:46 kitaman27 wrote: super, does what I'm saying make sense to you? Honestly give me a second to read it all. It's been a hectic day. I haven't read your additions yet, but so far I don't think anything Palmar has been doing is scummy. I'll take a closer look at your arguments. | ||
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Check-pick means PICKING THE ROLE your scum-read was SUPPOSED TO PICK NOT picking a scummy role | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:52 kitaman27 wrote: Pick 8, 10, and 15 should not be thrown away simply to verify that a player picked their roles. I suggested they be replaced by three very powerful roles that include watching abilities, parity cop, tracking, and protection. Then Palmar calls me mafia for "undermining his plan". It's so illogical that it's ridiculous. Not 8,10 agreed. People at/near bottom of list should do it. Honestly still not sure what this argument is about alignment-wise. End result seems fine, even though we have no clue what bottom pickers are doing (meh). Think you may have had a point statistically, but I don't think this makes Palmar mafia at all. His pick-logic checks out, and you works with what you can (afkers etc.) Chance you are both town 89%. | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:54 Palmar wrote: I should just stick with my earlier plan of picking puppeteer so I have someone friendly and smart to talk to. FU nerd. | ||
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On January 21 2016 09:20 disformation wrote: It appears to be that Mr. Holmes judgment has been become clouded due to increased stress during the previous days. + Show Spoiler + Should I reveal my medical notes on Professor Moriarty as, well? No real reason not to reveal it imo. But we can discuss this some more at EoD or night or whatever. Really no reason to rush this information. | ||
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???marks should claim what they picked. SL gets a pass. | ||
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Didn't have it remembered. Flowey = you? | ||
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On January 22 2016 02:22 disformation wrote: Well, someone has moriarity cause I got his sanity (or lack thereof). No, you get sanity from both regardless whether they are in the game. | ||
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Keir? Maybe wait for the answer? :S | ||
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On January 22 2016 02:21 kitaman27 wrote: I've asked three or four times now for a response while being ignored, which probably points to yes. Out reads are pretty close though, so maybe I'm focusing too much on the single "undermined my plan" post from him. If he is town, he will probably be dead soon anyways so ideally it gets fixed by itself, but there is a high percentage chance that I alignment check him tonight. Yeah this is the answer I was looking for. I have no fucking idea why both of you were/are still going against each other when both Rels and myself said that you're probably both town. Tbh it started to feel very forced and no longer like two towns fighting. Palmar stop throwing the game you flower. We have so many scummy people to pick from and with 8 mafia in the game I feel very confident in lynching mafia on d1. Like one of these would just be a great d1 lynch to start: - Vivax - Alot - Tictock I personally would prefer alot but I really want the kitaman role results. Blah. | ||
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On January 22 2016 02:31 JudgeJudy wrote: Would you mind pointing me to the post you are refering to? I'm not seeing any list that includes Moriarty in Palmar's filter aside from the "plan", which you claim to have not seen. What the fuck is this? Did someone pick the smurf role? | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:47 sicklucker wrote: Actually I was thinking of making some plays with my claim by claiming tommy the fireman or something(my original choice) but If i die or something we would lose this valuable information so ill just hard claim my role now. Im a mysterious challenged (acualy a nice role I was not lying about that) I checked Knight Artorias, the Abysswalker he is in play mafia has him Ooh shit, seriously? Question marks need to claim what they have right now. - Vivax - Ticktock - Onegu - Copcake - GlowingBear Your role is nowhere near important enough to warrant KP or a roleblock, nor does the possibility of making "big plays" warrant you hiding your role CLAIM. | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:52 sicklucker wrote: Then why are you guys yelling at me? Im the most clearly town read player in the game. Even in palmars plan I had permission to do whatever I liked. I considered faking a role that absorbs kp so I didnt get nked. But I didnt even do that.. Tbh it probably would've been better if you just check-picked a town role. I think with this many ???s not wanting to claim a role there's bound to be mafia-roles among them. Like we confirmed we have the artorias role in play but not much else. Worst case scenario someone claimed to pick a prot role and instead picked artorias. | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:54 Rels wrote: OK. Alot claimed to have kita. We let him use it, if he lies about it we kill him. Simple. We need to track roleblockers to be sure they're not blocking him if we're doing that, so he cannot lie about that. I don't want alot off the table for today. I say all the ???s claim (WHICH THEY SHOULDVE ALREADY DONE) and we go from there. I think Vivax and TT need to be the first claims. That way if they claim something already taken by another ??? flower we get some ezinfo. | ||
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IF YOU REMAIN A QUESTION MARK BY THE END OF THE DAY, I WILL SHOOT YOU. | ||
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Oh shit. Too caught up in my own thinking. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:08 Rels wrote: Yep. So let's just say trackers should track roleblockers / watchers should watch alot. No more precision, there cannot be a million busdrivers. Nah I think this is a trap. We shouldn't put our eggs in a basket that is very very likely to be mafia. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:28 AlotSomuch wrote: Oh. No I hadn't caught up all the way yet. My understanding of my role is it is a one use, cannot be bus-driven, if I pick abysswalker I will be told who has the role unless I am killed or roleblocked. So a watcher on me would net us a scum in any situation, wouldn't it? I kind of like this post. I don't think it makes him town, but it makes me believe artorias is on the other team at least. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:32 Cephiro wrote: I'm also willing to work with both and/or only one mafia to eliminate you evenly or one-sidedly. Feel free to rat your buddies. I think you should always declare your target so we/others don't stack and so we get a confirmed town if you die. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:36 sicklucker wrote: so basically im the mayor tormorow and i pick the lynch because no ones dumb enough to vote me (i hope). So because of this I wont be talking about my reads too much to avoid roleblocks Mehhh. I was hoping we'd get an extra KP. =/ To be honest I think you should only use this when you think town is heading into a shitty direction. Also we don't want to use this on d2 because tomorrow we will have more information. Likely some confirmed mafia. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:38 Rels wrote: Cool. That's 1 mysterious challenger role claimed, and it's a easily verifyable power. Meh. I think SL was already town though. I kinda wanted him to claim last. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:41 CopCake wrote: This is so confusing what do you mean with "other team" ? Ugh copcake. People have already told you before that there are 2 mafia teams, each with 4 members. =/ Don't like this. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:42 sicklucker wrote: ill do as i see fit. also your being so bad for forcing me to claim. theres 4 other c who didnt claim yet now they cant acidently choose y role. SOOO SOO BAD im salty asaik What are you talking about SL z_z. I never said you had to claim... | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:44 CopCake wrote: No I mean, you are sure that a mafia team has that power why? SL tried to pick it and it failed, which means someone else took that role (Artorias). | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote: in because i challenge super to a duel Pewpew. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:48 Rels wrote: Alright gonna play one game of HOTS then sleep. Make TT answer my question pretty please if he is not back before I leave Anyone want to take this for the townie cred? I'm going to sleep somewhat early. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:48 Superbia wrote: Also copcake what Challenger role did you get? | ||
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On January 22 2016 08:01 kitaman27 wrote: If someone ended up with Pick their Power Picker from Mysterious Challenger, they should totally grab the gambler by the way. Gambler is the law. If we can enact that brilliant plan this game I'll be very happy. :D | ||
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On January 22 2016 08:17 CopCake wrote: Do I really have to claim sup? Actually wait for Vivax/TT/Onegu to claim first at least. | ||
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On January 22 2016 08:18 Fecalfeast wrote: Well if you think about it all the way through like that... I'm not really thinking about teams tbh it's all scum to me Meh. | ||
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On January 22 2016 08:36 AlotSomuch wrote: So... I have my suspicion, but I want you to elaborate on why you don't think it's worth using a watcher to find out whether (A) I am scum (B) finding scum who try to roleblock me or (C) find out which scum took the dang busdriver role? So there's 2 scum teams. Team A and team B. We know team A has Artorias. We know team B essentially gives no shits about team A and vice-versa. So only team A wants to role-block you. I think you're likely not on team A, so you wouldn't benefit from faking a roleblock. The credit only makes you look better. So one of the 3 of the other scum have to have a role-block ability (possible), and be willing to use it on you. Now that means that these roleblockers are either people that fake-picked (will get found out eventually) or picked a role that can roleblock (which are only one-shots, are likely to be found out, and one of them has the watch ability). So they trade either trade a very precious one-time roleblock on you (yes please), or we'll likely find out who they are eventually with more reliable checks. I'm completely fine with scum wasting a role-block on you if it means other protective/investigative roles are safe. I'm fairly confident in finding scum regardless of your check. You're going to be on my lynch-list regardless of the outcome. | ||
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On January 22 2016 08:59 AlotSomuch wrote: Actually a very different reasoning than I was expecting; I thought you were going to go with a "other people are more valuable" part of it, and I was going to counter that at this point my result is a guaranteed scum or I am, because there is 0 town reason to take that role, so either a scum took it, I lie about my result in which case I am scum, or SL(I think?) lied about it already being taken, in which case he is scum. There is no such guarantee that our cops (assuming they aren't mafia themselves) will actually find scum today or tomorrow or before they are killed. I do see what you are saying about only having to worry about 3 possible people that would want to block it though. I find it a little weird your lack of interest in a guaranteed scum find though in favor of maybes... ... That is essentially what I said. It's town resources vs mafia resources. From my POV we're using a mafia resource in you to get another mafia. If the other mafia want to invest resources to block your resources then I'm 100% fine by that. | ||
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On January 22 2016 09:21 AlotSomuch wrote: Actually, If all actions used on me are driven...then they'd role block/kill who ever the watcher was moved to. And the watcher would see it. No because they'd swap you with player x and then roleblock x. | ||
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On January 22 2016 09:28 CopCake wrote: I have played with alot before and I think it is pretty obvious because I said "You are my fave" and posted a pic with pandas. How does he compare to his usual game? | ||
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1. Can someone read that alot OMGUS pls. It's leaving me confused. 2. Pressure on ???-flowers: - VIVAX - TICKTOCK - Onegu - Copcake - GlowingBear Claim. Your. Roles. Specify what challenger you have if you did get it. 3. These people need to show more of themselves: - Was making a list but pretty much everyone except for a few who already know who they are. 4. BE CAREFUL WITH VOTES. We do not want to push towards majority UNLESS we are 100% lynching that person. Due to artorias. All right. We lynch mafia tomorrow evening. Look forward to it. | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:28 kitaman27 wrote: Dimensional Lemming "You may not knowingly cause there to be a majority of mafia players in either the main game thread or the new game thread." I wonder if we can use this as like a pseudo dt check if we include Vivax and two of the scummiest players. I like the idea but seems very unreliable. | ||
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I want pressure on other question marks too though. This not claiming bullshit is unacceptable and doesn't help town. | ||
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On January 23 2016 08:16 sicklucker wrote: so who do I kill tomorrow im taking suggestions You shouldn't force the lynch if we get info during the night z. | ||
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Can KP roles tell me who they are shooting? time-travel vigi & dreamflower. Mafia can tell me as well but idc about stacking there. :D | ||
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On January 24 2016 08:49 VayneAuthority wrote: why do you think mafia stacked with you 0o and why did you shoot me in the first place lol Because you're mafia and you picked hero. | ||
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On January 24 2016 08:51 Palmar wrote: do we want to kill VA? ??? Palmar? | ||
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Let's assume VA is town. Only way mafia will want to reduce KP during the night by saving someone who is not one of their own is to force the town's hand during the day. We can't do anything during the day to the guy because he's the hero. We literally can't lynch him. So why do they reduce KP during the night from 5 to 3 if he's town? They should've just let me shoot him and use their own KP or roleblock for something more significant. Easy answer: VA is not town. | ||
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On January 24 2016 08:56 Palmar wrote: Like half my list players are dead (I did predict the deaths quite well!) geript and obi were both on it. What's your list? | ||
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On January 24 2016 08:57 VayneAuthority wrote: Do you know how many things could have happened at night that dont involve me getting saved? not to mention you could be bluffing and not even have shot me. Not sure why you are so adamant about this in a themed game I should've bluffed. God damn it. | ||
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On January 24 2016 08:58 Palmar wrote: I think I should not reveal the players still on it? Although I'm on the verge of just saying fuck it and killing VA There is two other people on the list, one is likely mafia, the other is likely town. That's fair enough I think. Better to keep mafia guessing a bit. | ||
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On January 24 2016 09:00 VayneAuthority wrote: nuke him koshi, gg. im not the hero or mafia Why the hell would you claim hero then!? What's your role? | ||
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On January 24 2016 09:05 Palmar wrote: who me? I could kill him, keirathi or rels. I guess keirathi was the best kill of the bunch. meh You got the message that one of your list murdered another? | ||
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16 players alive. of which 7 are mafia. 7/16. Better start killing mafia, mafia. | ||
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On January 24 2016 09:11 Palmar wrote: Like my theory is simple. Who would protect VA? No townie surely would. And since superbia's shot didn't get through I thought there was a good chance he got protected. I of course didn't think that he was dumb enough to pick a protective role and protect himself and then lie about his role. Tommy can protect himself from 1kp during the night twice per game. | ||
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On January 26 2016 08:45 Damdred wrote: Keep you alive until lylo and endgame you. If kita is scum you gave us no help at eod so there is no reason to switch. Super palmar list is non block able so he could of been carrying a kp and I blocked him I guess since we were missing one. I hope you're talking about keeping me alive tbh. | ||
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On January 26 2016 08:57 Palmar wrote: he's trolling. There is literally no way kita who actually thinks about roles and shit failed to notice this. Then where the fuck is his track result? | ||
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On January 26 2016 08:56 Superbia wrote: Kita what was the result of your main action? The track? | ||
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On January 26 2016 08:58 Damdred wrote: Didn't someone have a scum check on onegu or someone? And we thought was inverted cause of kita? I mean if what he says now is right we have that lynch but kita flips scum,here ff town. Then,who,knows what this means Wait we did? | ||
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3 v 2 3, if you wipe out the 2 you never have to be afraid of night kp hitting you. 2, you're way behind the 3. Better make things equal or even better, get ahead. Just remember, I'm hitting a mafia. It could be one from your team. Do you want to fall behind the other mafia team? | ||
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Do we get to see whether Damdred was the Paranoid Doctor or the normal Doctor from the flip? I.e. Does Damdred flipping "doctor" mean for sure that he was the regular doctor? | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:38 sicklucker wrote: hum he was roleblocked im asuming super is confirming that. makes it more interesting. Koshis not going to block him? so It was probably just gb claiming mafia Yup. Got a PM saying I was roleblocked. | ||
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Interesting. Well, damdred claimed a save on Palmar d1 if I'm not mistaken. And palmar did not get a you were roleblocked message afaik. So I'm assuming roleblock is very likely mafia. | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:38 sicklucker wrote: Super were you notified you were roleblocked? there are doctors and potential unknown roles TT could be a vet for all we know Yes. I got notified. | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:42 Superbia wrote: Glowingbear did you roleblock me? Koshi did you roleblock me? Most important question for first part of the day. | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:48 Palmar wrote: also 12 people alive, 5 are mafia. palmar, koshi, rels, superbia, sicklucker get a pass. The rest of you create cases on each other. Yup yup. Like all 5. Except if Koshi blocked me. | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote: Super being RB'd just means mafia wanted to stop him from saving/killing anyone. Implying that the RB happened to save me is silly kus he claimed who he would shoot at the last second. Not like it helps prove I'm town, but it def doesn't confirm me as mafia. Who do you think is the most likely to have blocked me, and why? | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:53 sicklucker wrote: OH AND ONE OF THE MAFIA SAID YOU WERE ON THE OTHER MAFIA TEAM AFTER MAFIA ON MAFIA VIOLENCE HAPPENED OUT OF RAGE. This acualy happened right? can someone confirm im not making this up in my head? I believe FF said he was with Kita. | ||
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On January 27 2016 09:02 Koshi wrote: I am afk the entire day. Just complete bullshit how this game is just wait till mafia decide to kill mafia. Unbelievable stupid. My shots should start going through at some point z_z. Sometime before I'm killed hopefully. | ||
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On January 27 2016 09:13 Koshi wrote: No. But he did save you. Just like he saved me. And again somebody died who we thought was mafia. (Damdred) or at least the very least less mafia than you. At this point I don't really care who is mafia. Honestly I think this is why it's priority we find the mafia rber right now. We lynch mafia and are punished. We can lynch mafia each day and lose. Just ridiculous. | ||
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On January 27 2016 09:13 Koshi wrote: No. But he did save you. Just like he saved me. And again somebody died who we thought was mafia. (Damdred) or at least the very least less mafia than you. At this point I don't really care who is mafia. We lynch mafia and are punished. We can lynch mafia each day and lose. Just ridiculous. Honestly I think this is why it's priority we find the mafia rber right now. | ||
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On January 27 2016 09:17 sicklucker wrote: Gb has a 1 time roleblock anyway so no real reason to prioritize. I doubt he lied about his role as the 22ed pick in the draft but you never know That's actually true and a good point. I still want GB to claim whether he roleblocked me or not though. | ||
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On January 27 2016 09:22 Koshi wrote: This copcake person should shovel GB and then we lynch her. Easy peasy fucking lemon squuezy. GB not using kenpachi on copcake should be telling enough. This train of thought. Yes. I am on board. | ||
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On January 27 2016 09:25 Koshi wrote: I am even willing to let Copcake live if she shovels GB Yes. We are close in terms of mindset and geography both. | ||
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On January 27 2016 09:25 Tictock wrote: The fuck would I know, least until you posted that you were gunna shoot me. I don't recall any of your posts last night before that one. Can you elaborate a bit on copcake and glowingbear? | ||
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On January 28 2016 06:31 Koshi wrote: Pretty hard to do. Need to keep him alive another day as well. Meh. If we believe he is scum he won't do it anyway probably. Like... It's not like scum don't want to get lynched. They just shoot townies in the night and town can't keep up. It's ridiculous. My shots need to start connecting. x: All RB bullshit should be out of the way now. In before I die tonight. | ||
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On January 28 2016 06:39 Rels wrote: Yep I'm tired. :p So I'm the only one that found SL s reaction super weird apparently. Idk. I'm going to read some more into it later. I thought SLs reaction was very SLery looking back, though imo it was kind of an obvious ploy. | ||
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On January 28 2016 09:09 Palmar wrote: OBS QT: remember to make fun of him if this is wrong pls But I get creds if it is. Risk/reward etc. | ||
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On January 28 2016 09:11 Palmar wrote: no shooterino into that though I think although who cares. As long as you murder people I'm fine with it. You have no idea how disappointing the nights have been so far for me. And nah. I think we have way more pressing targets for now. Rels should die to mafia anyway before long because of his supermedic role. | ||
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On January 28 2016 09:37 sicklucker wrote: no we def wont have auto wtf. Too much depends on who mafia nk. They have 2kp we have 1 we can not have auto Yeh. | ||
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On January 28 2016 09:44 sicklucker wrote: Take disinfo out of the rng because were just lynching him anyway apparently Nah. I want mafia to be super scared about who is going to carry their KP. Bonus is if keir is town, there's potential for both mafia to be super scared. | ||
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On January 28 2016 09:49 sicklucker wrote: ALso keirs a tracker? how has he given us nothing useful all game.. Apparently tracked damdred n2. I don't think who he tracked n1 actually. I believe palmar? | ||
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On January 29 2016 06:23 Onegu wrote: It wasnt as serious as first thought. Thanks for the well wishes! <3 Good man! All the best. On January 29 2016 04:04 Keirathi wrote: I'm running a 102 degree fever and feel like someone dropped me off of a 10 story building. I still think onegu and SL are both kinda town, maybe even slightly less on SL because of his complete lack of opinion towards Kita, but I dont have it in me to fight for it so I'm just going to sheep. Damn man, take care. | ||
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On January 28 2016 19:44 Tictock wrote: ^ that took forever. Thank god I have some time to do the same for Super and Rels, Super will be first kus his filter is more manageable. If Rels is mafia he might have a chance to shoot me before I ever get through his huge filter. Gunna take a break. Whatever happened to this and the scumread on me btw. I kind of liked the read since the argument is not wrong (though the conclusion is) but meh. | ||
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On January 29 2016 01:05 disformation wrote: Oh I also didn't like Superbia's plan much. Like Koshi would need to randomize his mad hatter thing, too. Assuming two teams cause currently 4-5 mafia alive (I think it is 4 but we cant be 100% sure yet) and we don't know what onegu will flip. So if Koshi doesn't randomize his mad hatter thing and gets no protection one of the two teams, one just shoots Koshi to get a 2 for 1, since the person koshi targets can't be on both scum teams. Doubly so should he target town. So if Koshi does his RNG thing, the plan is good? | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:10 disformation wrote: Better than protecting facepalmar. Don't ask me, I don't think my opinion is valued any longer in this environment. Ask Palmar, he will probably yell at ppl if he doesn't like the plan. Palmar is not the only person in this game. I want to know your opinion on the plan if Koshi RNGs. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:18 disformation wrote: *sigh* Well. As I said before: If Koshi's target is known, koshi is not protected and there are still two scum teams around one of the two scum teams just shoots koshi for the free 2 for 1 kill. Unless Koshi is scum (which I very very highly doubt) this is either a 1-1 trade or two dead towners, depending on who he hatters. Depends a bit on the Onegu flip, but I don't think this is a very good outcome for town. So by rnging his bomb it would be very risky for scum to shoot him, even if there are still two teams alive. Plus leaves prot open for ppl like you and facepalmar. Okay. Granted we do that. How's the plan then? | ||
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Pewpew. You don't say "I don't like this plan" as town when the only problem you have is a minor detail easily fixed. Not correct town mindset. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:39 disformation wrote: Not sure why you would call scum basically controlling 3 of 4 KP a minor detail, but sure if you say so. ![]() You think I'm scum now? Explain. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:39 Onegu wrote: One person unvoteing me gives me not majority and while we dont have a lynch I shoot disformation Tempting, but we have no guarantee you'll do such a thing. So no. I'll get the credit during the night. :D | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:41 disformation wrote: Where did I say that you are scum? Oo I'm assuming the one extra kp you're talking about is mine? And the 4th being koshi's RNG? | ||
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My main gripe with this is the way you approach the plan anyway. I think dismissing it like that is very anti-town. | ||
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I think all roles are legit at this point in time. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:52 Keirathi wrote: Onegu: if I unvote you, you shoot me? I think I have to die if town wants to win because I'm useless and if I stay alive it just gets way harder closer to lylo. Wow. Really really dislike this. REALLY dislike. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:53 Onegu wrote: Like if I dont Sub just shoots me as it is a mafia claim and I am not mafia... Yes but we lose a lynch. | ||
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Also it's impossible without lynching SL and I'm not planning on doing that. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:54 Onegu wrote: Not really you just lynched disfor instead of me or SL I mean if you're mafia. Meh. I think at this point you're both probably town. =/ | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:52 Keirathi wrote: Onegu: if I unvote you, you shoot me? I think I have to die if town wants to win because I'm useless and if I stay alive it just gets way harder closer to lylo. I think Keir is on the table tomorrow just for this post alone. | ||
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Not 100% who I'm shooting yet tonight. | ||
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I really, really don't want a GB 2.0 "Oh I prevented your KP bc you were going to kill me lulz". | ||
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- Tictock - disformation - The Shining - Copcake - Maybe rels (give this a 1% chance). | ||
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I think rels saving both me and koshi is correct. With disfo overlapping on one of us. TT should visit someone outside of myself or koshi to see if he can get a future roleblock (this is how it works, right?). Koshi just madhats whoever the fuck he wants bc he shouldn't die. I put KP on someone. | ||
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On January 29 2016 09:17 Keirathi wrote: TT's role is a day action that activates with the night post. He has the vanilla virus though, since GB kenpachi'd me last night and I visited TT. | ||
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On January 29 2016 09:21 Keirathi wrote: I think you still have the virus? And whoever you target tonight, you will pass it on to. At least that's what it sounds like to me from the OP. Wouldn't make much sense if it jumped 2 people each night. Nah the virus part on me was the roleblock. So my ability gets blocked and then whoever I visited that night instead gets the virus. So I believe TT has the virus right now and will be blocked, and whoever he visits tonight will instead have the virus. ...But since he has a day power he shouldn't be able to spread the virus if he's town. ![]() | ||
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Keir, Disfo, Tictock, Copcake and The Shining, I want you guys to name the 3-4 scum you believe are left in this game. Give some reason but don't make it too long. Before EoN or you may get shot. TY. | ||
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On January 29 2016 09:40 Koshi wrote: Fuck... The guy superb wanted to visit last night will get rb this night. No? I think he gets roleblocked tonight and can cause the roleblock on the next night IF he can visit someone during the night. Mod can you confirm this is how it works? I.e. Kenpachi roleblocks player A who visits player B during night N. Now player B is roleblocked during night N+1 and can cause a player P to be roleblocked during night N+2 ONLY if player B can naturally visit player P during night N+1 by using an inherit role ability or alignment ability (player B does not gain an ability to visit someone during the night due to the virus) | ||
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On January 29 2016 09:45 Keirathi wrote: There's very little chance I do anything tonight. I still feel awful. If I feel better tomorrow I'll try to get something up befor EoN. Oh shit, right. Get better soon man. =/ | ||
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On January 29 2016 09:56 GreYMisT wrote: The only way player P is roleblocked under your scenario is if player B tried to visit player P on night N+1, ie: the night that player B was roleblocked. All right, I think I understand, thanks. | ||
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On January 29 2016 09:59 Koshi wrote: So that's a yes I think? I think so. :p | ||
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On January 29 2016 10:00 Koshi wrote: So TT is rb this night and will rb anybody he visits right? Except that he shouldn't be able to visit anyone. ;p His role has day power only. | ||
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On January 29 2016 10:01 Koshi wrote: So basically if anybody gets the rb message not this night but the night after means tt is mafia? Strange stuff. I guess TT should stay at home tonight ![]() What role is tt? challenger (BlazingHand) | ||
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On January 29 2016 09:41 Superbia wrote: I'm going to work a bit on my d&d campaign. Keir, Disfo, Tictock, Copcake and The Shining, I want you guys to name the 3-4 scum you believe are left in this game. Give some reason but don't make it too long. Before EoN or you may get shot. TY. This still stands btw. I'm out. Night. :D | ||
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Rels only protect 3 if you have >3 charges. Let's go good flips. See you guys tomorrow. | ||
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Will revisit this thought when my mind is clearer tomorrow. | ||
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On January 30 2016 10:26 Palmar wrote: It's super tempting to flip copcake just to know what gb was Yes. | ||
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On January 30 2016 10:25 Palmar wrote: I just want to point out how much shit town would be in if we didn't have my godlike reads this game. Less shit if people (including town) weren't effectively blocking my fucking shots until n3. | ||
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Can someone explain to me why we're assuming disfo did not kill keir? | ||
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![]() We know there that it's likely 1v1 mafia today. We know it's likely (imo), that disfo carried the KP for his team yesterday. So: - Assuming disfo was in team A: SL, Copcake and ticktock are never on team B. Which translate to only 1 mafia at most in that group. So for sure at least 1 mafia in: - Myself - Rels - Palmar - The Shining I honestly think it's 1 and it's the shining at this point, but I have backup KP in case. | ||
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So: 1. We lynch the shining today. 1a. We miss: - It's 4v1v1. 1a-1 I shoot & miss: - it's 2v1v1. - If we have my shot in this scenario we have a lynch and a shot to hit exactly both of the mafia. Shit situation but doable if you assume I'm not the mafia. THEREFORE: Rels has to NOT be mafia, else I die during the night. Actually it's a super fucked up/interesting situation because we can literally still win going into the night in a 1v1v1. But eh? I think lynching + me hitting is the best chance we have in this scenario. If miss then I'm going into the night with 2 mafia and it's going to be WIFOM who shoots who all the way. Kind of offtrack here with thoughts but this would be a super silly but cool ending. I'd probably hold my shot. - My argument was going to be that I have to shoot rels if we miss on the shining due to the fact that rels would never save me as mafia but 2v1v1 without a second KP from town actually means that town has to lynch town or sleep. Me dying makes Rels confirmed mafia so the other mafia would likely kill him during that night then. And town would have to hope mafia kills each other so lynching town in that scenario is actually best. - Anyway I'd probably shoot Rels over palmar anyway at this point so whatever. 1a-2 I shoot & hit: - 3v1. Pretty good. If I'm still alive we lynch that day + shot. Else sleep. 1a-3 I shoot & overlap with KP: Meh? Some info for next day. 1b. We hit: 5v1 - Good shit - I hold my shot I think postnight- 4v1 - I should still be alive - Lynch + my shot 2v1 worst case. I.e. 3 lynches. EZ. | ||
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On January 31 2016 05:54 The Shining wrote: We will never know without the GB flip if its 5v1v1 or 4v2v1 and you'll probably end up shooting town anyway ![]() Eh? If we miss on you I'm pretty certain it'd be Rels. But it's probably just you. What are your thoughts? | ||
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Most important fact today: At least 1 mafia in: - Myself - Rels - Palmar - The shining I'm going to make a wild assumption and assume that disfo was with one of the others. | ||
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Does the vanilla virus block factional KP (i.e. mafia KP)? | ||
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On January 31 2016 06:27 The Shining wrote: My thoughts are every time you suggest lynching me, my townread gets a little weaker. My thoughts are you've spent a few posts today talking about lylo, numbers, setup, night actions that depend on a lot of moving parts and haven't explained what would make me scum, or Rels scum if I flip town. You are also certain that we are 5v1v1 when there are only 5 flipped scum and we don't know GBs alignment. You're putting a lot of thought and effort into something that could be misinformed from the very beginning. That's very true, the 5v1v1 is pure conjecture, but I tried putting together 5v2v1 worlds and it's so much harder to calculate the correct play because we don't guarantee KP reduction on a hit. Also I've been kind of lazy with reads due to the size of the game and my role. I really don't feel like I have to elaborate on my gut-reads due to having KP. Don't need to convince no one of shit. :D As for both you and rels: I believe I had you as null early on in the game (which in this game is an automatic scum-lean) and I never shared Palmar's TR on you. I was kind of surprised to find your name as still alive in my roles-list doc (didn't know you were in the game), and, possibly most important of all, there's 1 scum between me, you, rels and palmar. And I think rels and palmar in particular have been wayyyy townier. Rels: Had a really really hard town read on him d0-d1. Has fallen off since then. Feel like his saves are actually a bit mehhhh. Especially with the Koshi death.. Despite that still think he's town because I kind of masoned with him d1. I don't give out mason easily. | ||
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All right. I think the points you brought up are correct, and my assumptions are a bit too steep. These are assumptions I made which may actually not be true: - Glowingbear was the Challenger (Kenpachi). Which means that: I was roleblocked n2->visiting TT->TT is roleblocked n3. Therefore cannot carry KP. HOWEVER. Glowingbear could've just actually been the jailkeeper or something similar. His role never was confirmed because he never flipped. Assuming GB was kenpachi means TT was unable to carry KP last night (I believe). - Copcake couldn't carry KP last night confirmed. Keir said he would track her and flipped town. So we can safely assume copcake did not carry KP last night. - SL claimed to have been roleblocked. Koshi is the safe assumption. This is very likely because: - Koshi was reading SL mafia. - Koshi more than likely did not use his mad hatter ability because all KP is essentially accounted for. There is a freak world where it was on Keir, but that's so ridiculously far fetched I don't even want to think about it. So no. Likely he used his roleblock. - He likely didn't claim because it looked like he was going to live. SO. Essentially we can say: - SL (92%) - Copcake (99%) - Possibly TT (but I'm kind of reluctant now because we never confirmed GB's role). were unable to carry KP last night. So let's say we take TT out of that list bc of GB shennanigans. That means that 2KP has to have come out of his list: - Myself - Rels - Palmar - Tictock - The Shining - Disformation We know for sure that disfo was mafia and could've carried KP (actually somewhat likely because I outed my KP 25-20m before EoN resolution time iirc). So as such, we can remove disfo from the list and reduce the KP by at most 1 which leaves us with the conclusion: There is, ALWAYS at least 1 mafia (to have carried the at least 1 KP) in this list: - Myself - Rels - Palmar - Tictock (if GB was mafia and lied) - The Shining | ||
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Still pretty undecided on the lynch. =/ I'll be back later today to review some filters to decide. | ||
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TT you need to do your ban thing during the day right? If so you need to use it before EoD. I'd prefer to flip the shining today tbh. But in the end I'll just sheep palmar. PoE is PoE. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:29 The Shining wrote: We don't. That's the discussion. One ort the other happened n2. But it isn't that he blocked the kp, it's that he could've blocked scum. Or hattered Keir. If he blocked scum then how the fuck did we see 3kp. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:31 sicklucker wrote: rels this is a more logical explination. both super and rels killed disinfo. Like this makes so much more sense then what your going on about. Stacked kills You can't stack with CPR doctor. I would've saved disfo then. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:32 The Shining wrote: Rels theory. You shoot Disfo. 1 scum kp Koshi. Hatter on Keir. He can't do both. He can't roleblock AND hatter. | ||
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SL/Palmar/Myself Ride or die. Kill rest. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote: Can someone explain how TT got the virus? Because his rb is the most confirmable one imo. I'm not sure how Koshi and Keirs rbs would've gone through on nights they died. Okok. So GB vanilla'd me n2 because he was afraid I would KP him. Instead I went on TT. So I get RBed but TT gets the virus (i.e. he gets RBed tonight). | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:44 Rels wrote: I m feeling disgusted that I did all of this proving keir was bombed by koshi, so TT or copcake was actually roleblocked, and this had no impact whatsoever Dude tbh I don't think the ability works like this. But mods aren't around to confirm. z_z | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:44 Superbia wrote: Okok. So GB vanilla'd me n2 because he was afraid I would KP him. Instead I went on TT. So I get RBed but TT gets the virus (i.e. he gets RBed tonight). Ehh, last night* | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:46 sicklucker wrote: tonight? so not last night? either way if hes getting rbed tonight we have to keep him in LAst night* | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:46 Rels wrote: I can confirm maf hatter works like that, as can anybody with experience can: like palmar sl etc If a mad hatter puts a bomb on someone that person will die when the mad hatter dies even if its 3 days later Oh man. IDK. Palmar what do? | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:54 Tictock wrote: Barely got a break in time, changed my Ban to Shining. I get no notification back from the action, we'll be able to verify if TS took the RB by him being able to vote tomorrow. Ok. Good. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:59 Rels wrote: GG town ![]() I have no idea who is the last scum though sry. Also real? GB maybe confirmed scum then? | ||
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On February 01 2016 09:02 sicklucker wrote: yes altho why didnt he just say itmore directly? could be wifmo really town deserves easy win and he knows it! Idk. Could just be wifom in retrospect. I'm going to assume worst case scenario? | ||
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On February 01 2016 09:06 sicklucker wrote: well yes we play for worst case scenario because if its best case scenario the game is over and shining will concede It's still possible it's 4v1v1... We'll see tonight. x: | ||
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You can see what happens at flips and then go from there tomorrow. | ||
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On February 02 2016 06:36 Tictock wrote: Btw, I get not sharing reads makes it harder for scum to decide who they should shoot, but I really don't see a reason for total silence. Not like it matters at this point with ~ an hour to go. There's a good reason. Trust me. | ||
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Me being alive gives us a 2nd lynch. We lynch today and I get a shot if we miss. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:13 Superbia wrote: Can mafia choose to no-shoot? | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:17 sicklucker wrote: Whats the playerlist? Sicklucker Super TT shining was there one or two kp super? During the night? I shot copcake. There was 1kp or mafia stacked. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:19 Tictock wrote: Nailed this so far. Interesting Palmar got shot though. ##Vote: Superbia Just to check things though Shining can verify that you took an RB? Lynch has to be between you and Super today. I think my associations have merit and 100% one team was Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake. So who was mafia with FF/Vivax/Onegu? My money is on Super. :D I think you may have fucked up. I think you stacked on palmar with copcake on accident. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:21 sicklucker wrote: ok so we have auto with 1 lynch. both me and tt were roleblocked so we cant be on copcakes team. because copcake was laso roleblocked on the same night. So we lynch shining if hes town your mafia but i doubt it. GG ##shining Honestly this doesn't matter because disfo and rels are probably on different teams. They both were probably the KP carriers on the night before previous night. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:23 Tictock wrote: Doesn't make me wrong though ![]() You're either scum or pretty wrong. :p I'll take a look at your big post later though. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:32 sicklucker wrote: acualy were just killing them both anyway super because you have a gun (if we dont kill you) im pretty sure its just shining but if im sure its not you i dont care the order.( but it should be shininng to end the game) This end-game for me is going to exist of me reading your filter approximately 8 times and shouting at people saying I'm mafia. Something like that. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:32 Tictock wrote: Then I'm like 99% sure you are the last mafia. Bring it. :D | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:42 The Shining wrote: Super no shooting makes sense too if he has kp anyway. Use his kp, no shoot, push me as the missing kp because he knew I was being rbd Except that if you are scum I literally give town another lynch for no reason. (5v2 -> 4v2/4v1, very likely 4v1) Oh yeah, and I also get rid of the big question mark in the progress (and very, very likely reduce the scum count to 1). Yeah, no. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote: There is 1 scum left. If we sleep, there would be 1 NK if you don't shoot and 3 left tomorrow with 1 scum. How is that a loss? No. If we sleep I literally die because I'm confirmed town tomorrow (due to the fact that the game is not over). AND we lose a lynch (I can't shoot anymore). Best case scenario is that scum does not realize this (derp, but kind of likely since they didn't realize the extra lynch), SL dies (likely), and my shot means that we get a shot at a draw. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:48 sicklucker wrote: it was because there was 1kp. we know cake didnt deliver the kp so it had to be you or shininng because you were not roleblocked. you following? Incorrect SL. Disfo/Rels could've been carrying KP respectively. Remember when I pointed out the list of me/palmar/rels/the shining/tictock (though tictock incorrectly)? There was at least 1 in there because disfo could've been (and was very very likely) carrying KP. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:51 sicklucker wrote: wait if we mislynch here ill be the last man standing. that would be epic It'd be you or me. :p Though probably you. | ||
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The night that just resolved? My KP does not stop KP. Copcake was not roleblocked. She could've delivered KP (hint: she likely did). | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:53 sicklucker wrote: like im not talking about tonight im talking about the night before. All me/tt/copcake were aparently roleblocked so me and tt cant be a team with copcake. Its probably confirmed shining (if we can confirm the roleblocks) Yes. But disfo and rels very very likely carried the KP (respectively) that night. Rels was not a roleblock target. Disfo was getting shot by me. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:56 sicklucker wrote: no rels/disinfo were a team its very obvious Why? I don't feel that way at all. | ||
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On February 02 2016 08:59 sicklucker wrote: They had to have been because everyone else was roleblocked??? am i in the wrong here? this seems like a simple concept to me There was 2kp that night. It was very likely they were in opposite mafia groups both delivering KP. | ||
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On February 02 2016 09:00 The Shining wrote: The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum. If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon. You do realize there is like 48 hours left before this game ends for all kinds of feelings to change. Oh and not to mention that the only way for mafia to win is to either miss-lynch me or SL or sleep. | ||
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On February 02 2016 09:04 The Shining wrote: A mislynch on anyone loses the game, I just proved that. And sleeping only loses us the game if you're scum. So yeah. Nooo. Miss-lynching gives us 2v1 going into the night. Then I can shoot. If I miss we lose. If I hit we win because we have 1 remaining. | ||
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On February 02 2016 09:28 Tictock wrote: There is a lot of stuff comeing from you that doesn't add up, this post especially. Why is SL or you the only options for Mafia? Who do you even think is mafia right now? You are pushing this option to sleep, which is terribad if you are scum kus you just KP and Shoot and win. It's really not making sense to me how you are looking at this game right now if you are town. Jesus christ re-read my posts if you're town please. | ||
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2. I have specifically said that WE NEVER SLEEP HERE. 3. I literally do not really give a shit which of you two are mafia because I can shoot the other if we miss. I just have to ensure SL is town but I'm pretty sure. | ||
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Sl: kp on copcake disfo. Hard vote on vivax. Stayed on onegu after he proposed to use his power for our benefit. Stayed on rels after palmar proposed going on the shining (would have had every reason to switch). Voted on ff but he was red check. | ||
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On February 02 2016 10:35 sicklucker wrote: Night 3 4 mafia left Rels Dis copcake /one of you Roleblocked Me TT Copcake confirmed by house Copcake had to be with rels or disinfo because she was rolleblocked. So the copcake team is dead now. This probably means rels and disinfo were not a team. unless it was 3v1 since copcake had to be with one of them. This is very interesting acualy. So that means one of you were with rels or disinfo. SO roleblocks dont acualy matter your right. But we do have confirmation that the last mafia was not with copcake. SO maybe we can get a lead on that No. =/ mafia team of 2 is still possible because last night could've been a reduction of KP. | ||
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On February 02 2016 10:40 Tictock wrote: Your play isn't auto, it's a coinflip if you are town. And rather than try and scumhunt today you just want us to do that. 3v1 Now 2v1 ML Scum KP -> Win* *50/50 Chance Super (if town) shoots correctly and is Last man standing. Joke of an Endgame. Especially when you consider Super had to be told to shoot Dis over me and I totally take credit for showing that Cake was gunna flip mafia and had to be Super's shot last night. Also remember he was scumreading me pretty hard last phase, even said he might shot me still. Where has that read gone? Cake flipped Scum, so now Super knows he's the last one, that's where. For me it's auto. I also ALWAYS decide my own shots. If you were still my primary mafia read that day I would've shot you. | ||
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On February 02 2016 10:41 sicklucker wrote: but if supers mafia he can only be mafia with rels. because he killed both cop/dis and I confirmed that the mafia still alive is not with copcake. i may as well start with seeing if that makes anysense Yes. And if I was mafia with rels I always jump on palmar's proposed switch to the shining because I have a super high chance of getting killed in the night by the other mafia. So I would keep rels around to save me. ALSO: I was literally the person who came up with the logic that there is always a mafia between palmar, rels, myself, and the shining. And I excluded palmar from that list. To be fair I wanted to go on the shining but there is no way I put pressure on both myself and rels in that situation. | ||
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On February 02 2016 10:46 sicklucker wrote: wait why did you live over palmar? does this make anysense? we have no roleblockers or trackers left. wait there should have been 2kp last night if what I said was true earlier because copcakes team should be dead since she was roleblock. fuck im doing something wrong I have no fucking idea why I lived over palmar. Yes, there should've been 2 kp last night. The shining took TT's roleblock so: - There's a team of 2 (copcake +1). - The shining couldn't deliver KP. - Mafia stacked on Palmar. One of these is true. | ||
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On February 02 2016 10:48 Tictock wrote: Pretty sure that was Palmar tbh, but w.e So this means you think TS is the last scum? Nope nope nope. Palmar literally asked me in the thread why this logic was true and I explained it. Also still not sure on the last scum. Tbf when you posted your EoN night I was super skeptical and expecting 2 kp because you were going on me pre-flip, which I thought may mean that you were expecting there to be 2kp (bc you control KP) in the night which in turn exonerates The Shining partially. The fact that you still have not evaluated the singular KP at all makes me super suspicious. Also your push on me is supershit. I expect town to be paranoid but you're only paranoid towards me. | ||
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On February 02 2016 10:50 sicklucker wrote: Vivax/FF/Onegu/Super does make some sense. Its the only combination super can be mafia in so I will give it some thought but its still one combination. I just dont see why mafia wouldnt kill super... I sapose shining as mafia would give no fuck. Ticktock maybe we just lynch super today and shining tomorrow. hum I kinda almost believe ticktock is more likely town... almost... In any scenerio shining needs to die Yeah I fucked up on FF. I had a town-lean on Onegu early on d1 when he posted the middlefinger. Also was kind of sheeping koshi (on onegu) until he started calling you mafia. | ||
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On February 02 2016 10:52 Tictock wrote: *Cough* Or mafia No shot Kus that's important, we even talked about that one. Remember Super? Yes. And I said before that if a mafia no shot it's a super shit play. Which I explained with logic because it literally gives town an extra lynch. So you trade a lynch for the shining. Which means you're effectively killing the shining during the night. Great mafia play. | ||
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I am quite literally dropping massive logic nukes and I have been all game. | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:03 sicklucker wrote: IF theres no mafia kp tonight shinings town. We can verify this through vote action. So i think from my pov I have to kill one of you... as much as it sucks your both playing really well You can choose to take the roleblock or have no vote tomorrow (guess which one mafia would pick in mylo). | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:08 sicklucker wrote: super when you say we have auto your right. but you dont take into account the shining roleblock at all. I think your poe should be to lynch tt today and then one of me or shining based on his action. but all you care about is getting your shot off.. to like win the game as mafia? HE DOESNT HAVE TO TAKE THE RB. HE CAN CHOOSE. READ THE ROLE. | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:08 The Shining wrote: TTs ability is also 2 shot. Damdred me. He can't do it again. I also already explained why scumSuper would no shoot last night as well. Knows I'm rb. Has 2 kp so only uses one, puts the missing one blame on me. IF IM MAFIA I DONT NO-SHOOT. ITS FUCKING HORRIBLE BECAUSE IF YOURE THE OTHER MAFIA TOWN GAINS ANOTHER LYNCH. | ||
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Basically it boils down to us having to sleep with me putting a KP on the shining if there's 1 kp (my cpr) during last night. Which would be super bad for mafia (especially if it's me, due to the fact that I have to to survive mafia kp that night as well) because town gets a free the shining lynch. So mafia would have to take a huge risk during the night no-shooting. | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:25 The Shining wrote: NOT IF YOU'RE BANKING ON COP BEING THE OTHER MAFIA. I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO Yes but I wouldn't. I'm really tired of this. I'm a super logical player. If I am mafia I'm not going all-in on 1 fact. | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:24 sicklucker wrote: If im understanding the situation correctly. IF you both vote super I have no choice to vote him anyway. Because if we mislynch we lose, and if we sleep super wins No. | ||
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On February 02 2016 11:28 sicklucker wrote: no if i side with super I can sleep but we only get one lynch instead of two. but super still gets lynched so ill have two lynches still. This is probably the safe path is it the one i will choose... You don't have two lynches if you lynch me. You will lose the game. We only have two lynches because I have a shot. | ||
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On February 02 2016 21:33 Tictock wrote: Probably didn't fully think about it until today, but yea. If town this role means you should have 50/50 shot at a save or townkill tonight. -1 Town from current pool All right, good. | ||
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On February 02 2016 21:37 Superbia wrote: Can you tell me why you think disfo and rels were on the same team? | ||
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On February 02 2016 22:17 sicklucker wrote: Ticktock it could be super. but I think you have to be rational here. Like super can only be mafia with that combinations of players basically and he had to been incorrectly read by everyone who played in this game. If the mafia teams different hes town. While your theory makes sense that does not make it the truth and it might even be very very unlikely. Tbh I know how to read mafia super really well from experience of losing to him so ill give his filter a good one over Yes. Kindly do this. | ||
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There's a good reason Palmar hard read me town while he has been able to scum-read me halfway through d1 in the past. Look at my past games. | ||
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On February 02 2016 22:51 sicklucker wrote: super how were you roleblocked when you shoot ticktock again GB. | ||
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On February 02 2016 22:53 sicklucker wrote: do you remember this? I believe rels and copcake to be a team. this leaves disinfo as a partner to the last mafia... Super your really shitting the bed here. We have to assume we have one lynch left not two ? | ||
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On February 02 2016 22:58 sicklucker wrote: You literraly have put zero effort into helping me figure out which one of them is the last mafia. Your like oh haha lets kill both. Well we can only kill one because we are probably sleeping My best play is to convince the town between them to stop being an idiot. I'm going to talk to both of them when they get back, but I think TT went to bed. | ||
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On February 02 2016 23:01 sicklucker wrote: Like do you shoot? do you hold it? you need a plan b We'll go into the night with me confirmed town and we can discuss my shot. I'll likely shoot because I have 0 confidence in the town to make the right decision tbh. | ||
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On February 02 2016 23:01 sicklucker wrote: I sapose you never hold it because then it will be lylo with you / shining /tt and were at square one Nah incorrect. Mafia has to shoot me because I'll be confirmed because the game is not over. | ||
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On February 02 2016 23:03 Superbia wrote: Nah incorrect. Mafia has to shoot me because I'll be confirmed because the game is not over. So it'd be you/shining/tt | ||
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Just tell me the piece of logic as to why Rels and disfo are both town. | ||
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On February 03 2016 06:36 Tictock wrote: Why the flower is it untowny anyways? If I was scum I'd just jump on TS with you guys and ride the win. Besides you have basically told me that you don't care kus you can shoot into the people you aren't convinced are town right now right? Which from my PoV means you want me to lynch TS so you can shoot me tonight... Nope, this is just complete WIFOM. At the moment I want to lynch you and then see if I need to shoot TS. | ||
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You came in today with a plan. Your post before the night reflected this. The fact that Palmar died over me in the night reflected this. | ||
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On February 03 2016 06:42 Tictock wrote: And I'm supposed to believe that you are town because your role gives you a chance at shooting scum? I'm supposed to be ok with your super flippant TR on SL and that all the shit I've done today only makes you think I'm scum? Yet you prefer to lynch TS still for ... what reasons now exactly? I prefer to lynch you. I'm pretty convinced. Explain how my TR on SL is flippant. Explain what you've done today that's townie? You haven't evaluated anything, all you've done is dug your tunnel deeper. | ||
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On February 02 2016 17:53 Tictock wrote: Lets just assume I'm right for a second and look at last night if Super and Cake are mafia from differen't teams. In this case Mafia has 3 KP when it is 4v2. Super with 2 KP and Cake with one. Cake knows it's 50/50 chnace that she gets shot by Super over me (actually after my post on Cake last night it should have been fairly obviuse Cake was the only correct shot) but knows it's prob over, she likely decided to put KP out there. Which actually in this case it seems like Cake would have shot Super over Palmar. So either Cake decided Palmar was worth the longshot or she didn't bother to submit KP. Super as mafia would def be trying his best to hit the remianing mafia. I think Cake is aruably the only real shot he can make so thats kinda locked in. Now in the off chance Cake is not mafia Super would prob not hold his KP just to make sure he hit the other mafia team, unless Super was almost positive that Cake is mafia. Then Super can either take out another town or, and here is where it gets interesting, hold his shot. Why hold his shot here? Well he knows Cake will be be shooting almost 100% of the time and unless she hits him both of them shooting, and a total of 3 KP going out, means it's final 3 today. So yes, Super holding his shot in that situation is benifitial due to 1) keeping one extra person in lylo to discuss 2) promoting WIFOM that either Cake was with the final mafia or that TS took the RB and lost a shot. I'm rather sold this is the world due to the fact that I strongly feel that one team was Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake which means the final mafia is from team Vivax/Onegu/FF, which Super fits into rather nicely. Now lets look at if I'm wrong and the teams are something like Rels/Dis/Kita/Vivax vs Onegu/Cake/FF/??? In this world there was only one mafia KP last night and they picked Palmar to kill even though Super said he was shooting Cake or me. In this case why does scum not Kill Super with no saves left on the table? Also in this world, from Super's point of view, final mafia has to be me right? TS was RB'd and Super seem pretty convinced that SL is town, so in this world to Super I am 100% mafia here, or he doesn't think Shining actually took the RB. But even though Super is argueing that this is the world we live in he is not reaching this conclusion. He thinks TS or I are mafia but doesn't really care who kus he "has auto" if he were town living in this world he should be wanting to verify that TS got RB'd, and then it should be easy for him to conclude that I must be scum with Cake. So the conclusion here is that either Super is mafia or if he is town I should be basically confirmed mafia to him. Thus I think we have to lynch either Super or myself today. + Show Spoiler + Tried to put this down in words before and I didn't think it made any sense. Hopefully after some sleep I was able to be coherent. This post is so obviously bad. The entire premise is that I'm already mafia. Like it doesn't try to prove or analyze anything. The entire first part is literally "Those night actions could've happened if super was scum!". Guess what you flower, those night actions could've happened if ANYONE was scum. Not only that, it makes such gross assumptions that it's entirely irrelevant. If I'm mafia I'm expecting cake to be mafia and to shoot? Oh wait, what if GB is the mafia and I'm the only one left? Oh wait, what if cake holds her shot? Oh wait, what if someone else is mafia? Literally TUNNELVISION (Town does not tunnel vision in MYLO). Let's explore the "non-superbia" world you paint. Somehow the premise completely changes. There's only 1 kp? You have to be mafia? Like why are you not looking at a world where copcake shot palmar and TS RB made it so there was only 1 KP? What if TS was on a team with copcake and copcake delivered the KP? What if SL was the mafia and held his shot? Nope. None of these worlds TT is evaluating. Why? Because TT is not town and TT came in today with a plan. There is an absolutely obvious trend in all of your logic, TT. It's the fact that every single piece of logic hinges on the fact that I am already mafia. Tictock is not looking at the facts and evaluating. He's looking at a world of me already being mafia and stringing the pieces together from there. | ||
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On February 03 2016 06:50 Tictock wrote: So fucking lynch me, this day is becoming a headache for me. Nobody can give me reasons why TS is mafia, Nobody cares to explain their Townreads. You are calling me scum for backing up my read on TS. TS at least gave a decent reason why he TRs me and is willing to sheep, but has otherwise not really done much today and is just letting his vote hang out there. Read my post just now and respond. | ||
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On February 03 2016 07:03 Tictock wrote: Nah, lynch me. Lets get this over with so I can see if I'm right or being a dumb. Incorrect answer as town. | ||
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On February 03 2016 07:07 sicklucker wrote: Hes very right tho. shining has not earned this ride or die scenario your goiving him. The thing is super in are first game together we had auto but he still wanted to lynch me over a confirmed mafia and thats why I ragged quit and got banned lol TT? | ||
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On February 03 2016 07:43 sicklucker wrote: no your wrong. even if we lose a lynch shining is confirmed town or mafia so we dont acualy lose a lynch... Dude why? | ||
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On February 03 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote: Like we sleep and you dont shoot thats the best play here for me and you. ITs acualy the same as you shooting one and we lynch the other tho. But its better for you because if im mafia you will know it in final 3 because shining will be confirmed to you. I'm not following you at all here dude. x: | ||
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On February 03 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote: I'm not following you at all here dude. x: Wait. You mean applying ban on The Shining and sleeping? | ||
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1. Mafia can just no shoot. 2. We cannot "no-lynch". And we only have 3 votes. So we have to lynch today. | ||
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On February 03 2016 07:47 sicklucker wrote: if they no shoot we still see if supers vote counted and we will know his alignment Or you know, he just accepts the roleblock and we're back in this exact scenario. | ||
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On February 03 2016 07:50 sicklucker wrote: Mafia wouldnt acept it because he cant really win if hes does... BUt maybe he ddint expect copcake to flip idk. Anyway I think im done trying. Your never mafia here. Lets force the tie and shinings vote probably wont count and you can kill them both. Like im so sure your town fuck it. If theres no more angels to push we just force the tie Nono. The only way we tie is if we vote on each other each vote each. And I'm not giving TT the option to push someone over at EoD. Not in a million years. | ||
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On February 03 2016 07:53 sicklucker wrote: Someone told me that if we tie 2-2 we go to sleep? isint it usualy first to reach two which is why i told you shining? ill read the rules No. Majority is required. And the shining doesn't have a vote today so it's 3 votes total. | ||
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On February 03 2016 07:54 sicklucker wrote: This Game is Majority lynch. This means that in order for a player to be lynched, a majority of players in the game must be voting for that player. Majority is calculated by # Players alive in the game divided by 2 plus 1. If majority is not reached at the deadline, there will be a no-lynch. So how does tying the game give ticktock the win? The only way we tie (because we have 3 votes) is for example: I vote: tictock you vote: the shining tictock vote: me So if tictock is mafia he just changes his vote to the shining at last minute and wins. | ||
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On February 03 2016 07:56 sicklucker wrote: I would really like you to answer this... I'll 10% it. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:00 sicklucker wrote: no if we acualy sleep you always hold your shot you scum bastard ;p Nono. Let mafia think there might be a chance to go for the win. If they want to take a 10% chance to win this game then by all means. ;p | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:06 Tictock wrote: If I'm mafia why not vote me today? If you are voting mafia right now, why are you suddenly scared that I might join that vote? This is why I have a hard time seeing you as town. You have a chance to win RIGHT NOW as town, but you don't care kus you 100% win tonight if you are mafia. ..or because I'm like 99% SL is town and I have night KP. This also taken out of context. I thought there were 3 votes today and said that you would win as mafia in a tie due to the 3 spread votes requirement. Then SL picked that up in the correct scenario where there are 4 votes. I then explained that since you are unable to push me over, I can just shoot you in the night if you try to go for the win that way (though in retrospect that's also possible in a 3 vote scenario if we place the votes correctly). | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:09 sicklucker wrote: like this is why your mafia in some peoples minds. YOUR CONFIRMED TOWN TORMROW. shining might be confirmed town. like we learn so fucking much. Then ticktock/shining cant hide behind their tunnels on you and we can read them better That last part is true. I just really don't want to spend an additional 72 hours in this scenario. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:17 sicklucker wrote: This is how we kill them both. IF they cant vote you publicly two things will happen. They will have to both start tunneling me which is kind of laughable. Or they will turn on each other and we can lynch both of them in anyorder. This scenario is better because two lynches is better then one. You not agreeing to this is a mafia claim tbh lol. impatience fucking mafia who wants to gloat sooner No? If I'm mafia I would gloat whether we sleep or lynch. Both means I win at the same time. Anyway, I'll agree to sleep but don't expect much activity from me in the following day. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:18 Tictock wrote: I think I'm willing to count the sheep to sleep, as long as SL is down to take the 100% blame if Super if mafia here. In that case I think it means I voted mafia everyday, even my "shenannies" on D1 on Dis was good. I still never heard him explain why he TR's you SL, he dodged the question. I just don't trust he has real reads on people right now. My read on SL is really really good. I believe I've correctly called him as his alignment in all games I was town and he was in it. This game is exactly how he plays town. I can break it down if you want but I really don't think I have to. It has to do with a mixture of activity level, mood, general state of mind, and the way he constructs his posts. Also it helps that he did not carry KP on the night koshi/keir died. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:37 Tictock wrote: I'm not giving up, but I've more or less said my peace. I've got nothing more to add till something interesting happens. Make a case on the shining. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:42 The Shining wrote: I have a vote. It wouldn't be excluded until the eod post even if I didn't take the rb. I've been in class all day and I'm at a meeting now, I won't be around until 10 EST. From what I've read, it's obvious Super has to be against sleeping because if he is all for it, it's a scum claim to me imo. Honestly TTs defense of me is pretty accurate and not weird to me. He obviously read my filter and instead of finding reasons to scum me, which Super can't do but SL tried to do, he found things that make me town. The only way I lynch TT is if I decide that's a pocket attempt but it really doesn't feel like it. I'd probably lynch Super but SL apparently never will so we'll end up being forced to sleep. If super is scum, that's 2 kp, gg. I don't trust those odds. And all this back and forth is getting tiring. SL is hard towning Super the way TT is hard towning me. Super is hedging on one lynch, one shot. TT actually has a scum read. With thought out cases and posts. I don't agree with super that TT is being not townie. He seems the most townie to me. Do you think you've been particularly town this game? | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote: Lol you seem to be the one that wants me dead the most. Why don't you? I'm just literally baiting out to see what his read on you is. You don't think it's suspicious at all that he's hard reading you town in MYLO after deciding YOU were the one who had to be roleblocked JUST the day before. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:46 The Shining wrote: Go read my 20 other town games. I'm as town as I always am. I lynch scum, I make posts when I'm able to be around, I catch people pushing me for no reason like you are. I don't see what the motivation is behind this question. It's something you would be deciding if your town, not asking me No. I want to know if you think it's justified that TT is reading you town in MYLO. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:48 The Shining wrote: Except he's already made his read abundantly clear. And no I don't. I was the biggest question mark left and everyone in the thread leaned on him to RB me to confirm me. Now that it's done, both of us end up on the chopping block. Go figure. His read essentially hinges on the fact that I'm mafia. You realize this right? If you're town here you really shouldn't be swayed by the fact that he's "reading you correctly". He literally does not need to kill you to win the game. He just needs to not die. Take WIFOM for what it is. | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:54 The Shining wrote: Or he has auto as scum and doesn't give a Fuck and refuses to read filters because this game is on auto for a scum win. Okay. But what if I'm town? | ||
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On February 03 2016 08:55 sicklucker wrote: god the mindmelds im sure super is scum ... | ||
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On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: SL it must be really comfy in Super's pocket. I can't believe you don't see how he has no interest in figuering out scum today and you buy his "I have auto tonight" excuse. It's a great excuse to hind behind as scum, but it's the wrong fucking attitude as town when we can win today by finding and lynching scum. Instead of trying he just is bouncing between me and TS without trying to find reasons why we are town or scum. Rereading today, focusing on Super's posts and modivations. This was his position right at the start of the day. Does it really make sense that mafia would not realize Super's role or the number of shots they needed last night because there was no discussion? His tone is all wrong too. He's way to mild mannered and uninvested for someone who just "fooled mafia" into letting him live. All right. The problem here is that you see my motivation as mafia-aligned regardless of what's behind it. Imagine this, you're the town vigi with a shot in 3v1, do you look for the 1 scum? Honestly consider it yourself. You have two kills as town, and you have 3 to pick from. Isn't it easier to just find a ride-or-die town and kill the other two? I really don't understand how you're still not getting this if you're town. The scenario is different from my POV because I have power that changes the math. I win if I find a single town. The thing is, it does make sense that mafia didn't figure it out, because I didn't get killed. Moreover, this also slightly leans towards a world where the last mafia is either with cake, didn't shoot, or couldn't shoot. This last part doesn't really matter though, except that a stack on palmar is unlikely. I'm going to be brutally honest here, and no offense, but I don't think both you and the shining are particularly great at logic, judging from your general responses to my logic and the fact I have had to explain the amount of lynches in a variety of scenarios multiple times. Part of the reason why I'm pretty sure the mafia is between you two. I think SL would probably have figured it out and I would've been dead during the night. I think my tone has been the same throughout the game. I was going to be the judge during this mylo and let you guys fight so I could figure out who the confirmed town was (was already heavily leaning towards SL tbh). My outlook changed the moment the two of you decided that I was the all of a sudden mafia and I could no longer play the judge role. On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: This post is also odd, why does he think we lose if we sleep? If he is town he should realize a sleep puts us in 2v1 tomorrow as long as he holds his shot. Only event of a town loss if we sleep is if Super is mafia. Thus only a scum!Super should be thinking that town losses if we sleep. Again, I have no idea how you're misreading my posts this hard every time. For me we have a great chance to win because I can kill 2/3. If we sleep we lose that opportunity. So we go from 2/3 chance to 1/3. So yeah, town's chances go from almost certainly winning to decent chance of losing. Greatly reinforced by the fact that if the mafia is you, you'll more than likely be able to convince the shining that sicklucker is mafia, and if the shining is mafia, god knows where your logic will lead the game. So yes, I'd shoot every time (until SL came up with his plan). On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: This post actually makes no sense, Super is actually talking as though he DID have 2 KP to consider. If he was town I'd expect him to only explain why he shot Cake, this actually reads "well if i left you alive I gave town another lynch which is stupid, also I did kill a question mark who turned out to be scum" Okay. Let me explain why a no-shot is always the incorrect play as mafia, and why I would never do it if I were mafia. Yesterday it's 4v1v1, 4v2, or 5v1 (GB could have been mafia, now confirmed to be false). Agreed? Now let's paint this in where I'm mafia, because my 2nd kp would change the math and we can make some assumptions because copcake flipped mafia due to my shot. If I'm mafia, it's 4v1v1 or 5v1, unless I KP my partner (hint: nope). So, if I am to no shoot, the following can happen: 1. It's 5v1, and there is no KP from mafia. 2. The Shining is mafia and there is no KP. 3. Other mafia holds their shot and there is no KP. 4. Mafia goes on my CPR target (very, very unlikely). So, there's a actually pretty good chance that there is no KP. What does this mean? We go to the following scenario: 3v1v1 OR 4v1. What happens then? We sleep and I have to shoot the shining to prove myself. So let's examine the worlds then. In a 4v1 it can only get reduced to a 3v1 or a 2v1 at best. AND town gets a the shining flip for free. Great reduces my chances if I'm mafia. (This would also be the likely world because I CPRed copcake, and a scum is likely to flip). In a 3v1v1 I literally give the other mafia another chance to KP me during the night. So I basically turn the game into a coinflip. Yeah. No. So yes, if I am mafia then no-shooting something I would never do. Now let's fill in the world where you are mafia: A. With copcake. - You have no choice, you only have 1 KP. Rels could've been on both of you as opposed mafia as a bonus. However, I think that Rels may have been aligned with copcake. Can't remember why I think this though. I think this world is logically viable, but gut says Rels was with copcake so that means you couldn't have been with copcake. Next. B. Not with copcake. - I honestly think you accidentally stacked with copcake on Palmar here, or copcake no-shot (very unlikely world tbh). I don't think you held your shot because of the way you were pushing me pre-flip and the way you are fine with hard defending the shining, even though it looks like KP was missing on paper, and he was roleblocked (due to TMI). Like I said before, I don't think your logic has been strong, so I don't think you would've understood the consequences of no-shooting versus shooting if you were mafia. The fact that you were already ready to defend The Shining makes me believe that there was no no-shoot from you, unless it's ultimate WIFOM and you were planning to let SL and myself to d the grunt work. Now let's fill in the world where the shining is mafia: A. With copcake. - Copcake delivers the singular KP that they share. I feel like this can logically be a world because of the way copcake has played this game. I.e. she could've been with everyone bar Glowingbear (and myself). However, like I've said before, I feel like rels was with copcake so the shining couldn't have been. B. Without copcake. - Copcake delivered KP. TS couldn't deliver KP. It's a pretty straightforward world, but one that can be ridden out with the "mafia held their shot" WIFOM. Sicklucker is mafia: - Town loses the game. On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: So Super doesn't want to sleep because he might die, which would actually put us in 2v1 tomorrow with a 1/3 chance of lynching scum over the 1/4 today. However! The ironic thing here is that that situation should literally be Super's PoV today, he needs to pick the mafia between the 3 of us to win. Yet he has constantly refused to do anything towards that end. He just wants to leave it at either me or TS with his shot to end the game. It's REALLY important to find scum today, but Super just keeps using his shot as an excuse to do nothing. The fact the he continues to do nothing to push TS or myself as mafia while claiming he doesn't want to sleep is a HUGE contradiction. No. I pick the TOWN between the 3 of you to win. I've explained this before. Sleeping without SL's plan is superbad because it literally loses us a lynch while confirming me town and I get to leave behind a 1-lynch legacy. Versus getting 2 lynches. Yeah. I think I've explained this enough already. tl;dr: 2 lynches > 1 lynch. On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: Just again, very adiment about not sleeping but he isn't thinking about winning today. How does it make sense that town!Super is more focused on the win tonight than on winning today by lynching scum? I don't know how to point this out more clearly. Again, I COMBINE THE TWO. I get BOTH the lynch AND the shot. I'm not focused on the shot. I'm focused on both. On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: This is a retarted way to reply. If Super is mafia obv Shining is not, sorry but Caps don't hide the fact that you are not responding to this in a way that makes sense. I've explained above why I would never no-shoot as mafia and have shown with logic how it gains town a free flip on the shining (and copcake/GB) while not costing you a lynch. Great play as mafia. 5/7. On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: This is a technicality, sure the easy way for a Town!Super to pull off the win, but it doesn't mean that he shouldn't try to find scum today so that he doesn't need to rely on his shot. I really REALLY think it's scummy that Super's so focused on this play that involves winning tonight not lynching scum today. No it doesn't. I find the town to ride or die with because it allows me to focus my efforts. I could focus on either of you but logically you both fit as mafia in the world. Stop hammering this shit home, it is really, really obnoxious. On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: I really dislike this post. First line reads "Yea I should be townread for the Dreamflower thing" and then he's just useing the fact that Palmar townread him as proof that he's town. I don't see why mafia can't claim they are going to pick dreamflower and then pick something else later, it's actually a decent move to get easy towncred. Act like your going for a role that is suicide if mafia, then back down when someone suggests something else. I pointed out I had suspicions about this claim right off btw, it doesn't convince me anymore now. Also if we wanna throw in dead players reads... + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2016 02:23 Damdred wrote: Super why the postering on dreamflowet and then backing out? (Didn't go looking for that one, happened to spot it while I went looking for...) On January 25 2016 05:12 Damdred wrote: Yeah I already read shinning filter. He's probably 90% town, decent activity and prodding questions. I wouldn't ever lynch him Out of context. Pretty sure damdred's reponse was a reaction test because at that point in time I was still adamant about picking it. The only reason I let dreamflower go was because of the hilariously ingenious application of forcing a scummy player to pick it. I was pretty adamant about picking it because I loved the role and I'm pretty confident in shooting scum (100% hit rate when the shot went through btw. Also could still be 3/4 correct targets). On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: This is a bad answer. If town he should realize that if we sleep and he shoots wrong it's game. If he thinks he's got better reads than the rest of us why isn't he sharing them and trying to convince us to lynch that person today? Only reason he'd shoot if we sleep is if he is scum. I shoot because I have 0 confidence in the town between you and the shining to make the correct play. I can honestly see you guys just lynching SL in final 3 after these shenanigans. On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: Yea, explaining my TR on someone is un-towny. This is total BS. Super should get lynched for this alone. Claiming that me discussing why I think someone is town in 3v1 is mafia motivated. You know what I mean with this. Town should be super suspicious. YOU should be super suspicious. Your logic has been invalid and skewed (in the direction of me being Mafia), as I've pointed out before. Your evaluation on the shining is ???. I don't even know. You say you have a town-read on him but you said the same about me when you flipped your read on me ("Superbia is the same as he was last game we played in"). The real fact is that the shining should be your #1 suspect, or at least A suspect. But that's not what I'm getting out of your gameplay at all. Moreover, you're not even bothered by his absence or lack of contribution during this MYLO. Mind. Boggling. On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: Explain how Palmar being killed explains anything? If I am scum I never let Super live to possibly shoot me. 2v1 is better for me as scum than the current situation with Super having a shot tonight. Hell anyone of Me/SL/TS as scum would have a high priority to shoot you Super, yet you are still here. I don't think you were logical enough to realize this (shooting me == optimal play). No personal offense meant. I've had to explain this logic multiple times already, and you're still either not getting it, or ignoring it. Moreover, I've explained the KP world in which you're mafia above. The fact that you had a huge case on me pre-flip suggests that you were planning on going on me the following day. This suggests that I'm living and that the shining could possibly be confirmed town going into the night (hence the world where you stacked with copcake being the logic one). Moreover, thinking about it, even if you did see the logic, if you expected 3kp in the night we would end up in a 2v1 anyway. On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote: This never panned out. I don't think Super ever did this. I glanced over your filter but I couldn't really find anything substantial either way. The fact that the game was like 3/4 years ago and one of your first games (I believe), kind of invalidates any filter-logic. On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:I think I'm done here, kinda feel like I'm hitting on the same points over and over (also only a couple more pages to go). I think it's really clear from Super's posting today that he is only focused on winning tonight, not in correctly lynching mafia today. The only reason why he would be discounting winning today is if he is mafia, this excuse of "having auto" is the most BS reasoning I've ever heard. This is my last effort to show you guys why we should be lynching Super. If I'm wrong, convince me of it. If I'm mafia, lynch me for it. You are hitting the same points over and over, and it's annoying. I think it's clear from my posts that I'm winning, but as town. Whatever. I think I've refuted all your points with this post, and I expect to hear something fresh before EoD. I'm not crazy about the option to sleep myself since I think scum!Super just wins then, but if that's my only choice besides lynching Shining hoping that I've been wrong on him all game... I think it's what I prefer.[/QUOTE] | ||
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On February 03 2016 22:58 The Shining wrote: This is the shittiest non logic ever. SL you're gonna throw and I'm gonna bm you so hard for it. Indefinitely. You had the fucking nerve to shit on me for being useless before this game even really got started and then you expect me to be interested in playing with an arrogant sob like you. Now you're literally saying let's give scum Super a win. You are so Damn bad, and a douche towards me since this game started. Literally Fuck you. Just lynch me. I'm done with this game. I swear to god I hope you are town so I can call you bad and blame this loss on you forever. Right. | ||
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On February 04 2016 02:02 Tictock wrote: Wont be able to read that whole response right now during my break, but I might switch my vote purely bacause you took the time to respond like that when it's clear SL is never budging anyway. You want to vote SL now?? | ||
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On February 04 2016 03:59 sicklucker wrote: i see you all evaded this important qeustion. I cant really proceed untill you answer this He would accept the roleblock if he's mafia because not accepting it would mean he's essentially confirmed mafia. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:04 sicklucker wrote: super maybe you thought shining was roleblocked last night and wanted to frame him for auto? ![]() That is what the entire discussion is about. But I wouldn't know if the shining was town or mafia even if I was mafia. And I wouldn't know if there would be a second kp. So me going for the "frame" is suboptimal. Explained it in my big post. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:08 sicklucker wrote: shining is being a big baby that I scum read him and calling me names. This is my probelm with you. you do nothing (thats fine w/e there are alot of inactive players here) But then when people scum read you for doing nothing you still do nothing except you make angry posts. Like its such a shit meta and im sorry im not one of your click who townread you for it but its such a shit meta and you should be scumread for. That being said I might not even lynch you here and thats sad. I might even lynch this super tryhard player super who has played a flawless game and I have zero reason to scum read just because im starting to think ticktock is more town then him Uhuh. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:15 sicklucker wrote: So when a scum shining has to choose to rb himself or not. Its 6 players left rels just got lynched. Us four palmar and cop. I confirmed copcake was the last mafia on her team probably with rels judging by his post. So that means shining did not know if he was the last mafia or not. So he probably thought he was 1 mafia vs 5 towns. So he probably thinks he has to comply with town and pray something dumb happens to win the game. I think this means shining really did roleblock himself as scum here? That means I dont have to lynch him today I can lynch between tt and super and get two lynches. SO theres acualy no reason to side with super just to get two lynches The roleblock lasts for 1 night dude. SL are you high right now. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:13 The Shining wrote: Because I never said this ever before Can you refute my logic on why I would never roleblock you? The one in my big post just now. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:23 The Shining wrote: You can't roleblock me. I think you misphrased here. You don't have an rb role Eh, no-shoot*. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:23 sicklucker wrote: No super Somethings sitting wrong with me. Your filter is so clean im probably losing my mind. Gonna go read filters for a shit ton of time now. Dont wanna get this wrong. TT i suggest you keep your vote the same because im now deciding between you and super rather then between super and both fo you. This is a more even playing field really Read filters all you want but don't be too paranoid please.. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:26 sicklucker wrote: Lol that might have been a scum slip. FUCK SUPER IF YOUR TOWN YOUR PLAYING THIS LYLO SO BAD ...? I'm never a roleblocker? | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:28 The Shining wrote: Except I wasnt talking about myself only. I was talking about Super framing me because he knew I'd take the rb. If I'm scum, I never give up my only kp. Super is basically confirmed scum. There is no way any team with a qt is going to allow town to have an extra kp and risk losing their auto win. It's way too unlikely. And look at all of Supers walls of text. He's not being clear and concise. They're just there as misleading distractions. Even the follow up questions have no aim. How is this literally all you have to say. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:31 sicklucker wrote: but you might hold shot thinking shining is roleblocked? you see where the paranoia kicks in... SL I have explained how no-shooting last night very likely leads to a super bad situation if I were mafia. Check out the big reply I had on TT's post. 2nd part iirc. Essentially it boils down to a likely 4v1 where we have to sleep while I shoot the shining. Which essentially means that I'm giving town a free the shining flip were I mafia. That's not a good play. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:33 sicklucker wrote: Scum would not know if the other scum are alive. ALSO THERE IS ACUALY NO EVIDENCE THAT SCUM EVEN HELD THERE SHOT. yet you fucking talked about it for your entire day. like wtf maybe they just stacked? its not even worth talking about. Maybe you thought shining was roleblocked tonight and not tomorrow? not really worth talking about. So your entire huge post was not worth talking about SL you do realize that the case on me has hinged on the fact I am the mafia who no-shot to frame the shining, right? Seriously dude, read the post. It's really fucking good. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:37 sicklucker wrote: Yes its a shitty case Agreed. But they have both hammered the fact that I could have no-shot home, while I've been saying that's absolutely ridiculous because it's a shit tier play. I've taken part of the post to explain why it's a shit tier play because I'm fucking tired of hearing it. From my POV it's either TT who stacked on Palmar with copcake or the shining who just straight up got roleblocked. I've explained why in my big post. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:39 The Shining wrote: Or you stacked on Palmar and are now using the no shoot excuse. You even encouraged Palmar to not post during the night phase. This is so backwards. You've been pushing me for no-shooting. I agree that a stack on Palmar was likely if you're town because I don't think a team of 2 with copcake +1 is likely. I also explained that TT would have likely not held his shot due to his EoN post. Also I specifically told Palmar to leave a legacy at EoN. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:39 Tictock wrote: I think you guys might need to take a step back from the KP and stuff last night. We are for sure 3v1 right now, one of the 4 of us is scum. We shouldn't need to drone on about this RB, KP, Role stuff just look at what everyone's motivations are in their posts today. This is actually exactly what I did in my last WoT btw. Post #5355 Though tbh when I was looking at The Shining's posts as I did that I was also not seeing a ton of town motivations. I'll relook at those. Yes. But in PyP games the powers are incredibly important and hard facts can be drawn from them. Have you read my big post yet? | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:45 sicklucker wrote: I dont think tt can be with disinfo form filter. and I think rels/copcake werre together and copcake is confirmed a dead mafia. This means he would have had to be 1v3. and he got roleblocked with 2 kp.. which is alot of town points I would like to remind you that I shot disfo. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:46 sicklucker wrote: i understand and its something you would believe as mafia and focus which is rubbing me the wrong way. When I play mafia I focus on the town cases that make absolutely no sense on me and get mad about. Thats kind of how im reading you and starting to flip my read Right. But if people keep repeating the same shit over and over again and not evaluating the actual game then yes, I'm going to get annoyed/mad. | ||
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On February 04 2016 04:47 sicklucker wrote: I didnt say your mafia team would include disinfo ... If copcake is with rels then disfo is on a different team. | ||
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I believe I have shot mafia from both teams. My votes have been pretty godly as well. I think I've played townie. I think my mindset today was correct. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:15 sicklucker wrote: i agree that it was rels/dis/cake vs ff/onegu and one of super and the shining. super makes sense but why cant it be the shining? They both took 6.1 from me and purposely tanked there number pick What's the logic behind the rels/dis/cake team? | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:20 sicklucker wrote: you never really tried to do this tho i think? I honestly tried with TT. The Shining is a brick wall. | ||
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SL you out of all people should know I'm town. Like over TT. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:35 sicklucker wrote: Well TT is town and you dont see it No. I don't. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:39 The Shining wrote: But you're voting me. Obvious scum is obvious Right. It's between you and TT. I feel like it could still be TT. You do realize that the only way town can still win is if I force the draw because TT is gone, right? SL is convinced TT is town. He can figure it out tomorrow. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:43 sicklucker wrote: Well it matters so ticktock cant hammer you for the win but i happen to think hes town He can't because I would shoot him. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:45 The Shining wrote: The draw is what Superbia wants. It's his win condition. Jesus Christ The draw is my only option now. It's fucking horrible but whatever. Can't work with this town. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:47 The Shining wrote: I afkd the last 24 hours of the phase I was being lynched. I haven't afkd any lynches here, whether it was scum or me today. Wtf are you talking about? If I'm scum, I never take that roleblock. I shoot Super to get rid of that kp/possible save and hope town pushes a mislynch. You'd never know until eod that I didn't take the rb. That's stupid. If you don't take the roleblock you get 100% lynched today.. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:48 sicklucker wrote: I dont like that supers not trying to influence who i lynch but tho Lol. You can figure it out tomorrow. I just literally want to get out of this game. No offense dude but you're going to do your own shit at the EoD. I know you. I recommend taking a good hard look at TT. Like really fucking thorough. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote: If I don't take the roleblock, you don't confirm it until EoD. So there was no way of knowing. Horrible argument. Elaborate. I don't exactly get your point here. | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:55 The Shining wrote: You have 0 way to prove whether I take the roleblock or not because the vote isn't excluded until the EoD post if I didn't. Theoretically no one knows if I did in fact take the roleblock or not. So how does it make me 100% lynched? You are just making things up now Wait really? I thought it would show up in the vote count. | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:26 The Shining wrote: this fucking post is acualy so bad and I dont think a town would ever post it That's Super talking to his now #1 scumread. Outstanding[/QUOTE] You've been taking what I've been saying way out of context for the entirety of the end of the day. | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:39 The Shining wrote: What town with a shot thinks "screw this, good luck guys, I won't shoot who I think is scum(and I'm not voting who I think is scum) tonight. You guys can figure it out tomorrow." Because you post shit like this. | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:39 sicklucker wrote: why do you only try to convince tt your town and not shining Do you even see what I have to deal with!? Like there is literally no communicating here. Everything I say is scum according to him. EVERYTHING | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:40 sicklucker wrote: i nkwo you shut him out can you give actual evidence why for what? | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:42 sicklucker wrote: then why dont you think its more likely the guy that jumped on tts tunnel and wont budge is scum rather then tt himself Because TT's entire pre-night post and everything he has been doing lines up with a scum agenda to push me! | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:45 sicklucker wrote: "I shoot because I have 0 confidence in the town between you and the shining to make the correct play. I can honestly see you guys just lynching SL in final 3 after these shenanigans." so if i dont vote you you say your going to shoot but your not trying to figure out who to shoot? No. I'm no longer shooting. Figure it out for yourselves. | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:50 sicklucker wrote: Its not fucking ticktock so i might fucking lynch you since you will probably shoot ticktock... I don't share the same read. You better fucking win tomorrow. I swear to god. | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:52 sicklucker wrote: The only thing saving you right now super is you saying something like "kita said ff was on his team" like its so fucking dumb for a mafia to have said that I literally cannot believe you have flipped on me this hard. | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:56 sicklucker wrote: fuck it im flipping a coin NO. DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT THROWING THIS GAME. | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:02 sicklucker wrote: super you played insanely well UNTILL LYLO then you just screamed scum but I didnt wanna pull the trigger Yeah. Probably. LYLO fucking does things with my mind and emotion. I also haven't been in LYLO as town for aeons, so I have no idea how I need to town-play it. | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:05 sicklucker wrote: Like i just want to reward good play rather then avg to bad play. Thats probably why I couldnt do it even tho that woulda been an epic come from behind lynch It's so high risk/high reward. I think I never should've lived to mylo as town though. | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:07 disformation wrote: Team Cobra tried to shoot you N2. you = superbia Sick game though! Thank god for medics! (I believe damd saved me?) :D | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:07 Vivax wrote: Thanks for hosting and thanks to superbia for the impressive performance. Thanks! :D Sorry for having to bus. ![]() | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:10 Damdred wrote: I cost town the game sorta? Stupid me saving cpr medic Well that would've saved 2 mafia in the long run. ![]() | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:01 disformation wrote: All hail our new scum overlord Superbia! I'll adopt you into my new scum team. :p | ||
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Thanks man. You did really (annoyingly) well. Literally lynched my team on day 1, 2, and 3. | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:17 Keirathi wrote: Imagine how much different the game would have been if I wouldn't have let Palmar bully me out of taking CPR Doc ![]() Which was actually the main reason I decided on House, in the end. On the off chance that I would think Superbia was scum, House basically full counters that role. But I didn't think he was scum so I didn't use it that way ![]() That's why I KP you during n3 (or whatever it was). The day you track me is the day I get lynched. | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:23 GreYMisT wrote: I would also like to point out for the future I don't care about language or the like in my games, I just don't like attacks on other players as players or people. I have seen too many players driven away or driven apart by this sort of behavior, and simply don't want my games to end like that. There were some transgretions but thank you all for quickly adapting to my wishes. It was a very fun game to host. A lot of the roles turned out as I had hoped them too, but I will say that I am very sad that we lost Nigella and the Deminsional lemming on night 1. There were also a couple of roles we worked for a while on that were never actually picked. Oh well. This game gave birth to the concept of flowers. | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:24 Keirathi wrote: No, me tracking you wouldn't have said anything about your alignment. It would have just blocked your shot. Doesn't matter if your shot was from town or scum, I wouldn't have any way to know, or know who you shot. Yeah but KP would've been visibly reduced. I also didn't know mafia KP could be held so I thought I'd just be fucked if you end up in MYLO. | ||
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I play: - BUG eldrazi control deck with Tasigur as the commander. - BG sacrifice/recursion deck with Meren as the commander (this one is actually really disgusting). - mono-B all-stars with Erebos as the commander (first deck). | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:28 Palmar wrote: One note about the game. Almost everyone actually tried. This game was, on both sides, a quality game. I agree. I think all sides played very well. Really enjoyable game. | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:30 GreYMisT wrote: You have to go all out Grixis with my main man Bolas I really wanted to make that deck at some point. Bolas is the shit. :D | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:35 Keirathi wrote: Hmm, how could Cobra have won? Superbia was already shooting Cake. Best Cake could have done was shoot Superbia back and town would have won, right? I was so expecting this the night before MYLO. The fucking day post took so long (relatively) to go up. I was expecting an endgame post. | ||
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On February 04 2016 10:06 GreYMisT wrote: Oh also, I would like player input on the following mechanics in the game First: we actually didn't use this, but I thought it might have been interesting to give each of the Mafia team 1 "ban" they could use to eliminate a role from the list, rendering it unable to be picked. This ban would have been annouced at the start of the pick phase. We opted not to include it becuase HtS was getting bad feelings about it, I didnt care enough to push for it, and it probably would have given the scum team too much power. Second: The mysterious challenger. I'm not sure if it was needed in this set up. I think this game balances itself out through night KP. Don't think mafia needs an extra edge. Usually they do in PyP games, but I don't think it was necessary in this one. | ||
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Gimme some scumcred geript. :D We still need to finish that pathfinder/dnd discussion thing one day. :p | ||
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On February 04 2016 10:13 GreYMisT wrote: You guys know that I GM about 6 different game systems right? we need to have a TL mafia 1 shot night at some point. Jesus you mad man. I have trouble balancing work and GMing 1 game. Also yes. Very yes. | ||
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On February 04 2016 10:17 GreYMisT wrote: Well not 6 games at the same time, lol. I'm not that inhuman. I just know the rule sets to a lot of different games. Right now I play "The Strange" with my sister and brother and some other people. What systems do you know? Which ones are your favorite? :p | ||
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On February 04 2016 10:22 GreYMisT wrote: I can GM Pathfinder, Numenera, The Strange, Traveller, Stars without Number, Traveller (Mongoose edition), Dungeon World, Apocalypse World, Worlds in Peril, and Shadowrun (5th ed.). I can also do Maid RPG but I really would rather not call that a game. My favorite is hard to call, they all offer different things to different types of groups. I have had the most fun with Dungeon world, Worlds in Peril, and The Strange/Numenera. Shadowrun is a lot of fun, but my GMing style really doesnt mesh well with it. Same goes for Pathfinder. Stars without Number and Traveller I have had a lot of fun with and enjoy, but they really depend on the right group. Both are desinged to be sandbox space adventures so the open worldness can get a bit annoying for some players Jesus I don't even know 75% of those systems. :p Sounds awesome though. I'd definitely be up for a TL mafia oneshot. | ||
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On February 04 2016 10:25 GreYMisT wrote: A one shot would most lend itself to dungeon world, apocalypse world, or Numenera/the Strange (I put those together because they are connected settings with the same basic ruleset) I've heard of the 1st and the 3rd before. Will be interesting to dive in. :D | ||
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