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Superbia
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January 13 2016 12:56 GMT
#39
/in
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Superbia
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January 13 2016 15:02 GMT
#56
On January 13 2016 23:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Welcome back Superbia <3

And you resolved to not be waffleboy after Dark Tournament hehe xD


Thanks. :D PyPs usually have enough chaos/info/KP to not last aeons (hopefully ). That and they're a lot of fun. :D
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Superbia
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January 18 2016 22:13 GMT
#193
Hyep.
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Superbia
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January 18 2016 22:19 GMT
#195
When the game starts.
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Superbia
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January 18 2016 23:44 GMT
#203
[1,1]. Picking dreamflower.
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Superbia
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January 18 2016 23:44 GMT
#204
...
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Superbia
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January 18 2016 23:45 GMT
#210
Ok. [2,1] and picking dreamflower.
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Superbia
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January 18 2016 23:53 GMT
#217
In all seriousness we will not have 3 or whatever people claiming [1,1] by end of this phase. I will decide the towniest person to take the [1,1] spot near end of phase. If I find [1,x]s at the bottom of the list I will shoot into them.
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Superbia
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January 18 2016 23:54 GMT
#220
Again. [2,1] - Dreamflower
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Superbia
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January 18 2016 23:56 GMT
#223
On January 19 2016 08:54 Onegu wrote:
1.1 is mine. I have surgery and wont be around to change the numbers. So get off it.


You can change it now.
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Superbia
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January 18 2016 23:59 GMT
#225
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 00:05 GMT
#228
Why'd you enter this game koshi?
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 00:07 GMT
#229
Also mafia team size expanded to 4.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 00:20 GMT
#242
Protective and investigative roles are #1 priority for town.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 00:21 GMT
#244
On January 19 2016 09:20 Koshi wrote:
4 mafia? Why not go for 7? They got 2 kp and some roles they can use. medic is always stronger in mafia hands in a setup like this anyway.

tbh. It is maybe fair if there are more mafia in this game. Just more fun to play such a big themed game if you can coordinate.

Fuck me. I am going to see if there is a role that can make a QT and I will make my own mafia faction.


There are two mafia teams of 4. Dumbtells like last game we played.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 00:23 GMT
#248
Fuck off.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 00:24 GMT
#249
J/k :3
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 00:27 GMT
#256
I already have this game 10% solved.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 00:29 GMT
#259
On January 19 2016 09:28 Koshi wrote:
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On January 19 2016 09:27 Superbia wrote:
I already have this game 10% solved.

I hope you got me as scum. Otherwise you are already 50% wrong.


Nah.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 00:32 GMT
#266
I already want to kill Palmar.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 00:51 GMT
#279
On January 19 2016 09:48 Keirathi wrote:
Kita: I had Watson as one of the more powerful roles. At least medium tier? Doc with the upside of getting all the cop checks when moriarty or holmes dies assuming they breadcrumbed.


Holy shit that's actually huge.

I think Watson claims d2.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 01:10 GMT
#286
On January 19 2016 09:56 Keirathi wrote:
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On January 19 2016 09:51 Superbia wrote:
On January 19 2016 09:48 Keirathi wrote:
Kita: I had Watson as one of the more powerful roles. At least medium tier? Doc with the upside of getting all the cop checks when moriarty or holmes dies assuming they breadcrumbed.


Holy shit that's actually huge.

I think Watson claims d2.

Wat.

Why would he claim day 2? Yea, it can tell sherlock/moriarty their sanity, but it also denies him the chance to save more people and the sanity information can always be given out later or even after one or both of the others dies.

It's a really strong role. No need to neuter it on day 2 for no reason :\


Nah fuck that. If all 3 (we should pick all 3) are alive d2 he outs instantly. Kp has been reduced to 2 (maybe +1 due to roles or w/e) and we should have other protection roles to protect him. Furthermore the 2kp is spread between 2 parties who can't communicate and are against each other. Besides, losing a protective role on n2 with a high possibility of 4 checks going into d3 is amazing.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 01:11 GMT
#288
On January 19 2016 09:54 Koshi wrote:
Maybe it is better to distribute roles based on picks tbh. Dreamflower should never be picked as town. It is not good enough imo and mafia will NEVER pick it. If somebody picks it he is auto town


Doesn't matter. Fact that I pick it essentially removes me from the pick order list and allows people below to pick more freely.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 01:12 GMT
#289
Last on list should pick dreamflower to check if I have it if in doubt. Likely you're not getting shit anyway.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 01:15 GMT
#290
Off to bed for now.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 16:57 GMT
#434
I'm not rescinding the dreamflower pick. I don't have a scumread on Onegu either (not really a read at all tbh).
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 16:59 GMT
#435
Also Palmar has been too inactive during this phase for my liking. I expected certain things from him and it did not show.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 16:59 GMT
#436
Also SL is too agreeable.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:02 GMT
#438
FF post some more.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:03 GMT
#439
On January 20 2016 02:02 CopCake wrote:
Sorry for not being super active :/ I found out on monday I had a new project which is I wanted to be out but I feel it would be pretty disrespectful to just leave like that.

I promise that when I get out of work I will do my best!



When is that? What numbers are you picking?
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:16 GMT
#443
Keith what's your read on Onegu?
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:17 GMT
#444
On January 20 2016 02:13 sicklucker wrote:
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On January 20 2016 01:59 Superbia wrote:
Also SL is too agreeable.


your right palmar is probably scum but im a nice guy


This shit doesn't even contradict rofl. Not entirely sure now.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:23 GMT
#448
On January 20 2016 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Super why the postering on dreamflowet and then backing out?


? Read my post again lol.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:26 GMT
#449
On January 20 2016 02:21 Keirathi wrote:
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On January 20 2016 02:16 Superbia wrote:
Keith what's your read on Onegu?

He literally hasn't said anything except what numbers he was picking and that he was going to shoot me if I pick 1,1 with him.

I don't trust him enough to give him 1,1 for free, but I'm curious if he'll have the cojones to actually shoot me.


Can you translate this to an alignment? Like does this lean him in any way for you?
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:27 GMT
#451
On January 20 2016 02:27 sicklucker wrote:
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On January 20 2016 02:17 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 02:13 sicklucker wrote:
On January 20 2016 01:59 Superbia wrote:
Also SL is too agreeable.


your right palmar is probably scum but im a nice guy


This shit doesn't even contradict rofl. Not entirely sure now.


cannot compute


Same for now.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:31 GMT
#458
I don't think Onegu's initial troll "I will shoot you" means anything. Not entirely sure why you'd take that serious keith. SL may have a point here.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:34 GMT
#465
This is actually going nowhere. Nvm.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:35 GMT
#467
On January 20 2016 02:34 Damdred wrote:
Well

atleadt I think SL is town now.

Kei is basically confirmed town though


Damd someone asked for your town leans earlier. Can you share?
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:36 GMT
#469
On January 20 2016 02:36 sicklucker wrote:
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On January 20 2016 02:34 Keirathi wrote:
SL:

Picking the same numbers doesn't mean you're a VT. It just means your picking order gets moved down the list. Also, there aren't even any fucking VTs in this game, wtf.


if you pick a role thats already been picked you become vt. its not my first rodeo


Actually you become a rando role from the very bottom list. Forgot actual name.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:37 GMT
#470
"Mysterious Challenger"
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:39 GMT
#472
On January 20 2016 02:37 Rels wrote:
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On January 20 2016 02:36 sicklucker wrote:
On January 20 2016 02:34 Keirathi wrote:
SL:

Picking the same numbers doesn't mean you're a VT. It just means your picking order gets moved down the list. Also, there aren't even any fucking VTs in this game, wtf.


if you pick a role thats already been picked you become vt. its not my first rodeo

No read the OP again
Probably means you're town (=


I think you're town but this is incorrect.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:40 GMT
#474
On January 20 2016 02:40 Rels wrote:
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On January 20 2016 02:39 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 02:37 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 02:36 sicklucker wrote:
On January 20 2016 02:34 Keirathi wrote:
SL:

Picking the same numbers doesn't mean you're a VT. It just means your picking order gets moved down the list. Also, there aren't even any fucking VTs in this game, wtf.


if you pick a role thats already been picked you become vt. its not my first rodeo

No read the OP again
Probably means you're town (=


I think you're town but this is incorrect.

Again, dumbtells almost always comes from townies


Not for SL tho.
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
January 19 2016 17:47 GMT
#477
Oh shit hi disfo. Didn't read your "hi superbia" until looking at your filter, sorry.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:47 GMT
#478
On January 20 2016 02:47 Damdred wrote:
Its half and half for SL dumbtells are a thing though.

Kei
Rels
Suoer
Geript
Koshi
SL
tt to a lesser extent

are my town pool currently the rest haven't caused me to remember them


We have some overlap. That's good.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:51 GMT
#479
Though you spelled my name wrong..
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 17:53 GMT
#481
I think Obi may deserve a town lean as well.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 19:50 GMT
#514
On January 20 2016 04:25 Rels wrote:
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On January 20 2016 03:35 sicklucker wrote:
I have never dumb telled as a mafia...

Superbia why did you say dumbtelling is not town indicative for SL here ?
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On January 20 2016 02:39 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 02:37 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 02:36 sicklucker wrote:
On January 20 2016 02:34 Keirathi wrote:
SL:

Picking the same numbers doesn't mean you're a VT. It just means your picking order gets moved down the list. Also, there aren't even any fucking VTs in this game, wtf.


if you pick a role thats already been picked you become vt. its not my first rodeo

No read the OP again
Probably means you're town (=


I think you're town but this is incorrect.



Damdred same question concernening this post ?
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On January 20 2016 02:47 Damdred wrote:
Its half and half for SL dumbtells are a thing though.



Played with the guy quite a bit and just.. feels like it. Tried to substantiate the claim after he said he only dumbtells as town and couldn't find a straight up dumbtell as mafia from his filters but couldn't really find one (though to be honest I only took 5m and only looked at the mafia game I was in as well). Still will hold to this point though. I feel like SL is more of a drifting player regardless of his alignment. Like he will only read specific parts of the game. So I don't think him dumbtelling is a towntell per say.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 19:53 GMT
#515
Like he doesn't do it on purpose regardless.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 21:04 GMT
#528
Are you reading damdred town?
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 21:05 GMT
#530
Then why you budging son.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 21:09 GMT
#532
Changing that subject like nobody's business. nmu? Now tell me wuzzup with FF bowing down to some fewl.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 21:24 GMT
#535
What do you feel your chances are this game FF?
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 21:29 GMT
#538
Mind sharing the knowledge VA? Or do you want to keep it a secret for now?

Also any reads so far FF? What do you think about my alignment?
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 21:41 GMT
#542
readreadread :D Also get a number down.
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Superbia
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January 19 2016 22:14 GMT
#550
gnight townman. Just chilling and lurking till results.
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:06 GMT
#587
Coo
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:08 GMT
#591
Wait really? That means Koshi and Ceph overlapped.
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:10 GMT
#594
On January 20 2016 09:09 Palmar wrote:
Everyone above me needs to claim the role they're taking.


Something to shoot you. Figure it out.
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:15 GMT
#604
VA said he'd overlap with a scum and he overlapped with Alot I think? Which I think could indeed very well be scum. Don't recall his posts at all.
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:22 GMT
#614
On January 20 2016 09:20 Palmar wrote:
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On January 20 2016 09:10 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:09 Palmar wrote:
Everyone above me needs to claim the role they're taking.


Something to shoot you. Figure it out.

??


I don't think you're town.
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:23 GMT
#616
On January 20 2016 09:22 Palmar wrote:
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On January 20 2016 09:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Since this seems to happen every game, making a post game bet with myself that at least two scum buddies picked the same number to try to throw us off :D

this always happens


I'm calling VA/Alot
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:30 GMT
#625
On January 20 2016 09:26 Palmar wrote:
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On January 20 2016 09:22 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:20 Palmar wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:10 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:09 Palmar wrote:
Everyone above me needs to claim the role they're taking.


Something to shoot you. Figure it out.

??


I don't think you're town.

Do you have anything to back that up because I really cba playing around dumb suspicions this game.


Just a feeling based on expectations. We'll see how it ends up.
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:33 GMT
#629
On January 20 2016 09:32 Palmar wrote:
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On January 20 2016 09:30 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:26 Palmar wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:22 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:20 Palmar wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:10 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:09 Palmar wrote:
Everyone above me needs to claim the role they're taking.


Something to shoot you. Figure it out.

??


I don't think you're town.

Do you have anything to back that up because I really cba playing around dumb suspicions this game.


Just a feeling based on expectations. We'll see how it ends up.

yeah please don't apply some dumb expectations to me, I play in huge amount of variety of ways all the way from completely inactive to super active, from trolling to serious.

I can be meta read, but only by looking at why and how I'm doing the things I'm doing, not what I am doing.

This game I'm trying to organize town I think. That feels like a thing I want to do now.


Good. I actually was expecting this and your latest post towards ceph fits in with this. Good timing. ;p
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:35 GMT
#633
On January 20 2016 09:28 Palmar wrote:
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On January 20 2016 09:15 sicklucker wrote:
1. Keirathi 1
2. Superbia 2
3. ObiWanShinobi 5
4. Rels 7
5. Palmar 10
6. geript 17?
7. Breshke20

Everyone else overlapped lol and i got last somehow...
8. Koshi
9. Cephiro
10. kitaman27
11. Vivax
12. Tictock
13. disformation
14. Fecalfeast
15. Damdred
16. AlotSomuch
17. VayneAuthority
18. The Shining
19. Onegu
20. Sicklucker
21. Copcake
22. GlowingBear


The following players need to be assigned roles due to alignment:

ceph
vivax
disfo
fecal
alot
vayne
shining
glowingbear


I like this list a lot. I think you can remove FF though. Not entirely sure yet.
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:38 GMT
#638
Maybe add +breshke and +copcake to the list.
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January 20 2016 00:39 GMT
#641
On January 20 2016 09:39 Palmar wrote:
are faction kp roleblockable?


Yeh I believe so.
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:40 GMT
#645
On January 20 2016 09:38 Superbia wrote:
Maybe add +breshke and +copcake to the list.

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January 20 2016 00:41 GMT
#649
I've also already said what role I'll be picking.

+ Show Spoiler +

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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:42 GMT
#650
On January 20 2016 09:40 Breshke wrote:
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On January 20 2016 09:38 Superbia wrote:
Maybe add +breshke and +copcake to the list.


hmm?


I don't think you should've been reading VA town via that association.
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:44 GMT
#653
On January 20 2016 09:42 Palmar wrote:
I don't really want you picking dreamflower superbia


Why? Because of the whole "give it to scum" thing?
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Superbia
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January 20 2016 00:46 GMT
#659
On January 20 2016 09:44 Breshke wrote:
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On January 20 2016 09:42 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:40 Breshke wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:38 Superbia wrote:
Maybe add +breshke and +copcake to the list.


hmm?


I don't think you should've been reading VA town via that association.


Why?


Because I think it's NAI. Do you have a scum read on alot?
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January 20 2016 00:53 GMT
#671
On January 20 2016 09:49 Palmar wrote:
How certain are we keirathi is town? (I'm going to filter him right now, answer while I do it pls).


He's in my lean town list. Though tbh he's only there bc of activity + my town has called him town. Needs some looking into.
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January 20 2016 00:56 GMT
#678
On January 20 2016 09:51 Breshke wrote:
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On January 20 2016 09:46 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:44 Breshke wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:42 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:40 Breshke wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:38 Superbia wrote:
Maybe add +breshke and +copcake to the list.


hmm?


I don't think you should've been reading VA town via that association.


Why?


Because I think it's NAI. Do you have a scum read on alot?


No I didn't even remember any of alots posts until I just went and looked then.

However why does mafia VA use his pick to overlap with someone and announces it to the thread.


Because why not? It's been said before that scum actually probably doesn't want top pick because it makes them more likely to be hit by KP (2 mafia teams) and puts them in the spotlight. So why not block some random (or a team mate) and try to get some towncred. I actually think it's more likely that they're together.
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January 20 2016 00:57 GMT
#681
I rescind my mafia lean on Palmar btw. He's town (prob).
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#682
On January 20 2016 09:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On January 20 2016 09:35 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:28 Palmar wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:15 sicklucker wrote:
1. Keirathi 1
2. Superbia 2
3. ObiWanShinobi 5
4. Rels 7
5. Palmar 10
6. geript 17?
7. Breshke20

Everyone else overlapped lol and i got last somehow...
8. Koshi
9. Cephiro
10. kitaman27
11. Vivax
12. Tictock
13. disformation
14. Fecalfeast
15. Damdred
16. AlotSomuch
17. VayneAuthority
18. The Shining
19. Onegu
20. Sicklucker
21. Copcake
22. GlowingBear


The following players need to be assigned roles due to alignment:

ceph
vivax
disfo
fecal
alot
vayne
shining
glowingbear


I like this list a lot. I think you can remove FF though. Not entirely sure yet.

mnehh I don't know how much I trust you thinking you can read me that easily still


Ezread. Don't have it yet though. But I will if you keep posting.
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January 20 2016 00:59 GMT
#685
All right I'm off for now. Game is heading in good direction.
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January 20 2016 13:09 GMT
#945
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).
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#947
I.e. the "-target-, get a red-check or die" role. Fucking amazing. And due to the fact that you can RNG it between 2-3 players, you essentially force them to all comply.
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January 20 2016 13:16 GMT
#949
Oh step 2.5) Gambler RNGs within this list.
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#952
On January 20 2016 22:13 Palmar wrote:
The guy who makes the mayor election seems like a good role too, it helps protect town leaders etc.


Meh. Priority in Investigative/Prot/KP imo.
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#953
On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote:
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On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).

Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now.


Yeah but if they KP gambler other investigative/KP/Prot roles are fine.
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January 20 2016 13:19 GMT
#954
On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote:
Superbia what do you think of Breshke ?


Meh. I kind of liked him questioning my question but that's literally all I liked. Prob slight scum-lean.
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#955
On January 20 2016 22:17 Superbia wrote:
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On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).

Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now.


Yeah but if they KP gambler other investigative/KP/Prot roles are fine.


safe*
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January 20 2016 13:20 GMT
#957
On January 20 2016 22:19 Superbia wrote:
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On January 20 2016 22:17 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).

Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now.


Yeah but if they KP gambler other investigative/KP/Prot roles are fine.


safe*


safer*
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January 20 2016 13:23 GMT
#961
All right I'm going to get back to work. Everyone read the gambler plan I posted and give some thoughts.
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#998
On January 20 2016 23:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D


Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe).

Moreover I'm not sold on giving Breshke the Watson role. There's more than enough bullshit roles that can invert alignments or targets (dr sy n tist being one of them) so blame can always be shifted. Regardless of breshke's actual alignment. Watson needs to be 99% reliable.
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#1001
More people need to look at my gambler plan.
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January 20 2016 14:44 GMT
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On January 20 2016 23:41 Superbia wrote:
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On January 20 2016 23:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D


Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe).

Moreover I'm not sold on giving Breshke the Watson role. There's more than enough bullshit roles that can invert alignments or targets (dr sy n tist being one of them) so blame can always be shifted. Regardless of breshke's actual alignment. Watson needs to be 99% reliable.

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On January 20 2016 23:44 kitaman27 wrote:
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On January 20 2016 23:41 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D


Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe).


yep yep, I'll also claim during the night if I do choose to frame and then I'll show up on any watchers and stuff (I'm assuming I visit every player) to confirm no tomfoolery.


I don't think it's a choice. It's part of the action. You'll frame everyone.
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January 20 2016 14:46 GMT
#1011
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
2.5) Gambler RNGs a target within this list.
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).

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January 20 2016 14:49 GMT
#1014
I'm also probably picking the CPR doc.
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January 20 2016 14:51 GMT
#1016
Oh yeah, we also should probably get Nigella Lawson, since she has a watch ability (I'm assuming). Watch is absurd.
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January 20 2016 14:53 GMT
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On January 20 2016 23:51 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:46 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
2.5) Gambler RNGs a target within this list.
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).



This seems solid. For number three, I think it is important that we tell them exactly who to pick. If we leave it up to them then they can pick a townie of their choice to kill and try to justify it. Since those 2-3 players don't know if they were actually targeted, they can't move their vote off a mafia at end of day if they know they're caught.

Another option we have is to force the strongest scum suspect to be the gambler. If town feels that the gambler is still mafia by the end of day one, we force the gambler target to vote for the gambler, killing them both. Otherwise, we pick the target for the gambler voter. If either player refuses to follow through, we policy lynch since the final vote count will show the +0 and +2. I think I kinda like my version better. Thoughts?


I actually love your version. That's even better. It also leaves the roles open of townie-esque people to pick more powerful stuff. 100% on board.
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January 20 2016 14:54 GMT
#1019
We haven't even lynched mafia and I already feel like we're winning rofl.
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January 20 2016 14:58 GMT
#1022
All right I'm off for now. Everyone check Kita's post for gambler plan v2.
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January 20 2016 18:16 GMT
#1075
Palmar can you take a look at the Gambler plan I proposed and Kita's version as well?
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January 20 2016 18:19 GMT
#1077
Also think VA's attack on SL makes him pretty scum. Still calling VA+Alot team.
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January 20 2016 18:20 GMT
#1078
Link or House for Keir may be good.
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January 20 2016 18:21 GMT
#1079
Sec.
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January 20 2016 18:37 GMT
#1085
Hijacking Palmar's old post to include my personal thoughts/opinion.

On January 20 2016 10:10 Palmar wrote:
1. Keirathi - Protective or investigative.
2. Superbia - CPRDoc
3. ObiWanShinobi - Investigative
4. Rels - Investigative or KP.
5. Palmar - Investigative or protective.
6. geript - Hardest time deciding tbh. I think investigative.
7. Breshke - Straight up protective, Doctor would be great.
8. Koshi - Protective or investigative. No shennanie weird role. Straight up something like Kitaman27 to check for a scummy role.
9. Cephiro - One of my primary lynch atm so don't really want to waste dreamflower.
10. kitaman27 - Don't mind him picking dr. sy n. tist as long as he always uses his spybot d1. No excuses/questions.
11. Vivax - prime dreamflower target else something that absolutely cannot hurt town.
12. Tictock - Gambler targeting 11/15/16/17/18/19/22 (and who is not dreamflower).
13. disformation - prot mayb investigative
14. Fecalfeast - prot
15. Damdred - prot
16. AlotSomuch - One of my primary lynch atm so don't really want to waste dreamflower.
17. VayneAuthority - One of my primary lynch atm so don't really want to waste dreamflower.
18. The Shining - check/maybe dreamflower
19. Onegu - check/maybe prot
20. Sicklucker - Investigative.
21. Copcake - check/maybe prot
22. GlowingBear - prot/maybe dreamflower


Meh. I'm confident in assigning maybe 6-7 hard roles to specific players. Rest idk.
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#1086
On January 21 2016 03:23 Koshi wrote:
These are all the roles I would probably enjoy. I want do not want to be given 1 role but a selection of many roles with many people. Some roles really suck if mafia knows that I got them.

Hero
Dr. Sy N. Tist (to not use it, and I might die early, anybody who dies early should take this I guess)
Sherlock Holmes
Professor Moriarty
Captain Malcolm Reynolds
Dr. House
Werner Von Braun
Dimensional Lemming
Ezio Auditorie
Tommy the Fireman
The Arrow


Meh. I'd give you Holmes/Dr. House/The Arrow to pick from that list tbh. And only if you promise to use the arrow's KP ability in consultation.
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January 20 2016 18:41 GMT
#1087
I think Palmar should be moriarty.
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January 20 2016 18:42 GMT
#1088
Or rels. If we're okay with just the one town KP from cpr doc.
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January 20 2016 18:43 GMT
#1089
I think geript or obi should have link leaning towards obi.
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January 20 2016 18:45 GMT
#1090
I'm leaning towards keir or disfo for watson.
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January 20 2016 18:46 GMT
#1091
And the other gets house maybe. Then Koshi can be sherlock?
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January 20 2016 18:47 GMT
#1092
Maybe give rels Werner Von Braun because I don't want that in the hands of mafia. Then palmar can be moriarty.
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January 20 2016 18:48 GMT
#1093
Then get sicklucker kitaman to check for either ezio or hero or something scummy. We'll decide after d1.
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January 20 2016 18:49 GMT
#1094
All right. Let Palmar post his big post and take my thoughts into account and make some supermutation masterplan. I'm gonna go play some csgo matches with friends. I'll be back before deadline.
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January 20 2016 22:53 GMT
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I'm here. Have only half-read pages so far. Still half-busy.

Palmar can you enlighten a bit more on your read on me? The most substantial thing is me flipping on you, but you already had a town read on me before that.

Obi I don't really like you deny-picking. I'd prefer it if you get a decent town-role like an investigative or a protect role. Idk what's left at this point since I haven't really delved into Palmar's post yet.
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January 20 2016 22:57 GMT
#1274
Nigella Lawson and Doctor still open.. I think either of those is great.
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January 20 2016 22:58 GMT
#1276
Moriarty still open? Go for that Obi.
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#1277
Brb
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January 20 2016 23:03 GMT
#1282
Nigella seems pretty awesome if all her powers do what I think they do. But idk if that's what they do. We have moriarty to check for fake roles (and kitaman), and I'm decently inclined to believe Obi.
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January 20 2016 23:09 GMT
#1294
Why are we giving shining a KP role..?
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January 20 2016 23:09 GMT
#1298
Obi pick Nigella. SL are you around?
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January 20 2016 23:11 GMT
#1301
On January 21 2016 08:09 Palmar wrote:
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On January 21 2016 08:09 Superbia wrote:
Why are we giving shining a KP role..?

Because I trust him more than other people.

He'll shoot whoever I tell him to.


Really? I have no real read on him. Don't recall anything from him. But if he listens then he listens I suppose.
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January 20 2016 23:11 GMT
#1304
We need to have a moriarty picker as well.
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January 20 2016 23:12 GMT
#1309
Copcake/GB/???-pickers if you're around, pick the role your scummiest role is claiming to pick.
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January 20 2016 23:14 GMT
#1314
We need a Moriarty picker, someone who doesn't have a pick yet
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January 20 2016 23:14 GMT
#1315
I'll go with your read on TS for now Plammar. Can you give me the reason why you were townreading me before the flip situation btw?
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January 20 2016 23:15 GMT
#1316
FF can you pick Moriarty?
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January 20 2016 23:16 GMT
#1322
All right.
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#1323
On January 21 2016 08:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'd rather be cooperative than get a gun but I do want a gun lol


Moriarty is a pretty bad-ass dude. Not sure if you're up for the challenge.
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January 20 2016 23:18 GMT
#1324
Damd where you at.
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#1325
Let's get a vanilla doctor up in this biatch.
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January 20 2016 23:20 GMT
#1330
We don't even have a Gambler. >:| Fucking wasted my gambler plan (refined by Kita™). It was so good too.
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January 20 2016 23:21 GMT
#1331
On January 21 2016 08:19 Palmar wrote:
Also CPR doc is not a strictly town role. It's fantastic for mafia )))


Pray. :D
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January 20 2016 23:40 GMT
#1355
Damd can you pick vanilla doctor?
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#1359
On January 21 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
Nope I have my role picked in either lynch me or suffer the consequences for the fear mongering


Damd why'd you want Nigella Lawson?
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January 20 2016 23:46 GMT
#1365
Like if you're town it sucks to have your role taken away from you by someone else, and people telling you what to do and shit. But I think town is headed in a pretty good direction and I also think obi has a pretty decent chance of being town. So if you're town you're probably fighting with your own alignment here.

Please do me a favor and pick doctor here =/.
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January 20 2016 23:47 GMT
#1372
On January 21 2016 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
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On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote:
It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible


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On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:
The entire point of having ffa/check players is for them to take roles that SHOULD have been taken before them to PROVE the players before them actually took the roles they were meant to take. It's a failsafe.


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On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:
Kita's additions completely undermine my plan.


Who here thinks these three statements could possibly follow a logical sequence from a town Palmar? It's impossible.

EBWOP the second quote should be under palmar's name not mine.


I think it makes sense from a town perspective to have some people check-pick near end of the list. Assuming they're not all aligned (decent assumption), it puts some pressure on mafia to pick what they're told and not pick some super scummy role.
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January 20 2016 23:48 GMT
#1374
On January 21 2016 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
super, does what I'm saying make sense to you?


Honestly give me a second to read it all. It's been a hectic day. I haven't read your additions yet, but so far I don't think anything Palmar has been doing is scummy. I'll take a closer look at your arguments.
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January 20 2016 23:51 GMT
#1385
Also to be abundantly clear:

Check-pick means PICKING THE ROLE your scum-read was SUPPOSED TO PICK

NOT picking a scummy role
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#1409
On January 21 2016 08:52 kitaman27 wrote:
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On January 21 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:
On January 21 2016 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote:
It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible


On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:
The entire point of having ffa/check players is for them to take roles that SHOULD have been taken before them to PROVE the players before them actually took the roles they were meant to take. It's a failsafe.


On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:
Kita's additions completely undermine my plan.


Who here thinks these three statements could possibly follow a logical sequence from a town Palmar? It's impossible.

EBWOP the second quote should be under palmar's name not mine.


I think it makes sense from a town perspective to have some people check-pick near end of the list. Assuming they're not all aligned (decent assumption), it puts some pressure on mafia to pick what they're told and not pick some super scummy role.


Pick 8, 10, and 15 should not be thrown away simply to verify that a player picked their roles.

I suggested they be replaced by three very powerful roles that include watching abilities, parity cop, tracking, and protection. Then Palmar calls me mafia for "undermining his plan". It's so illogical that it's ridiculous.



Not 8,10 agreed. People at/near bottom of list should do it.

Honestly still not sure what this argument is about alignment-wise. End result seems fine, even though we have no clue what bottom pickers are doing (meh). Think you may have had a point statistically, but I don't think this makes Palmar mafia at all. His pick-logic checks out, and you works with what you can (afkers etc.) Chance you are both town 89%.
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#1411
On January 21 2016 08:54 Palmar wrote:
I should just stick with my earlier plan of picking puppeteer so I have someone friendly and smart to talk to.


FU nerd.
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#1412
That was a joke btw. No real flamerino.
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January 21 2016 00:17 GMT
#1415
Sup.
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#1420
Wait what?
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January 21 2016 00:21 GMT
#1422
What exactly did you pick Damd?
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#1423
On January 21 2016 09:20 disformation wrote:
It appears to be that Mr. Holmes judgment has been become clouded due to increased stress during the previous days.
+ Show Spoiler +
Sherlock Holmes be cray cray!
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Repeating: Sherlock Holmes insane!


Should I reveal my medical notes on Professor Moriarty as, well?


No real reason not to reveal it imo. But we can discuss this some more at EoD or night or whatever. Really no reason to rush this information.
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January 21 2016 00:34 GMT
#1434
VA did you really take Hero? If so I'm shooting you during the night.
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#1437
Also if you did not get your role or whatever, claim.

???marks should claim what they picked. SL gets a pass.
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#1442
Gonna sleep. Let's see what ???s will claim tomorrow.
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#1443
Night friends.
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January 21 2016 16:47 GMT
#1660
Sup gonna catch up rq.
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January 21 2016 16:48 GMT
#1663
What's your role GB?
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#1666
On January 22 2016 02:05 GlowingBear wrote:
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On January 22 2016 01:48 Superbia wrote:
What's your role GB?


Why?


Didn't have it remembered. Flowey = you?
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January 21 2016 17:07 GMT
#1667
Wait no. You never claimed. Why? Why do you think. I don't think your role is important because all strong town roles have been taken. You are not target for kp or rb or whatever. I want to know whether you check-picked someone and if not, what you picked.
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January 21 2016 17:15 GMT
#1669
Kita do you still think Palmar is scum?
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January 21 2016 17:19 GMT
#1671
And you didn't get moriarity right?
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January 21 2016 17:20 GMT
#1672
Like this is important, because if you did get moriarty FF is scum.
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#1677
On January 22 2016 02:22 disformation wrote:
Well, someone has moriarity cause I got his sanity (or lack thereof).


No, you get sanity from both regardless whether they are in the game.
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#1679
On January 22 2016 02:22 GlowingBear wrote:
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On January 22 2016 02:19 Superbia wrote:
And you didn't get moriarity right?


I didn't


Keir? Maybe wait for the answer? :S
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January 21 2016 17:28 GMT
#1682
On January 22 2016 02:21 kitaman27 wrote:
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On January 22 2016 02:15 Superbia wrote:
Kita do you still think Palmar is scum?


I've asked three or four times now for a response while being ignored, which probably points to yes. Out reads are pretty close though, so maybe I'm focusing too much on the single "undermined my plan" post from him. If he is town, he will probably be dead soon anyways so ideally it gets fixed by itself, but there is a high percentage chance that I alignment check him tonight.


Yeah this is the answer I was looking for. I have no fucking idea why both of you were/are still going against each other when both Rels and myself said that you're probably both town. Tbh it started to feel very forced and no longer like two towns fighting.

Palmar stop throwing the game you flower. We have so many scummy people to pick from and with 8 mafia in the game I feel very confident in lynching mafia on d1.

Like one of these would just be a great d1 lynch to start:
- Vivax
- Alot
- Tictock

I personally would prefer alot but I really want the kitaman role results. Blah.
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#1683
Yeah FF got moriarty confirmed then. But I already had a decent townread on him so meh.
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#1684
Gonna eat some dinner.
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January 21 2016 17:32 GMT
#1686
Oh yeah, completely forgot. I really really want a check on VA tonight. Can someone check roles real quick to see whether there is a targeted framer of some sorts? If VA turns out to be mafia (not unlikely imo) it can really really fuck over town later on in the game.
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#1688
On January 22 2016 02:31 JudgeJudy wrote:
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On January 21 2016 13:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar helped and I chose one of that list he made.


Would you mind pointing me to the post you are refering to? I'm not seeing any list that includes Moriarty in Palmar's filter aside from the "plan", which you claim to have not seen.


What the fuck is this? Did someone pick the smurf role?
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#1689
Nvm lol. Kitaflower.
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#1766
On January 22 2016 06:47 sicklucker wrote:
Actually I was thinking of making some plays with my claim by claiming tommy the fireman or something(my original choice)
but If i die or something we would lose this valuable information so ill just hard claim my role now.

Im a mysterious challenged (acualy a nice role I was not lying about that)

I checked Knight Artorias, the Abysswalker he is in play mafia has him


Ooh shit, seriously?

Question marks need to claim what they have right now.

- Vivax
- Ticktock
- Onegu
- Copcake
- GlowingBear

Your role is nowhere near important enough to warrant KP or a roleblock, nor does the possibility of making "big plays" warrant you hiding your role

CLAIM.
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#1770
Also had a pretty good nap and feeling mentally rejuvenated. Someone discuss a world with me in which we can have alot on the lynch/kp list and still find out who took the Knight role.
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January 21 2016 21:53 GMT
#1775
Actually would much rather have FF role-check some shady ??? flower than rely on info given by alot during d2.
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#1780
On January 22 2016 06:52 sicklucker wrote:
Then why are you guys yelling at me? Im the most clearly town read player in the game. Even in palmars plan I had permission to do whatever I liked. I considered faking a role that absorbs kp so I didnt get nked. But I didnt even do that..


Tbh it probably would've been better if you just check-picked a town role. I think with this many ???s not wanting to claim a role there's bound to be mafia-roles among them. Like we confirmed we have the artorias role in play but not much else. Worst case scenario someone claimed to pick a prot role and instead picked artorias.
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#1786
On January 22 2016 06:54 Rels wrote:
OK. Alot claimed to have kita. We let him use it, if he lies about it we kill him. Simple.
We need to track roleblockers to be sure they're not blocking him if we're doing that, so he cannot lie about that.


I don't want alot off the table for today. I say all the ???s claim (WHICH THEY SHOULDVE ALREADY DONE) and we go from there.

I think Vivax and TT need to be the first claims. That way if they claim something already taken by another ??? flower we get some ezinfo.
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#1790
I'm 100% shooting into the people that have not claimed their role today.

IF YOU REMAIN A QUESTION MARK BY THE END OF THE DAY, I WILL SHOOT YOU.
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#1792
On January 22 2016 06:58 sicklucker wrote:
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On January 22 2016 06:58 Superbia wrote:
On January 22 2016 06:54 Rels wrote:
OK. Alot claimed to have kita. We let him use it, if he lies about it we kill him. Simple.
We need to track roleblockers to be sure they're not blocking him if we're doing that, so he cannot lie about that.


I don't want alot off the table for today. I say all the ???s claim (WHICH THEY SHOULDVE ALREADY DONE) and we go from there.

I think Vivax and TT need to be the first claims. That way if they claim something already taken by another ??? flower we get some ezinfo.


tt claimed... like 1 page ago


Oh shit. Too caught up in my own thinking.
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January 21 2016 22:02 GMT
#1794
SL... He needs to claim what mysterious challenges role he got.
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January 21 2016 22:03 GMT
#1795
challenger*
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#1800
All right. You can get a pass anyway SL. I care more about the other ???flowers.
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#1803
On January 22 2016 07:08 Rels wrote:
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On January 22 2016 07:06 Keirathi wrote:
There's a small flaw in the plan to figure out who artorius is using the kitaman role: it might not be able to be busdriven, but it can certainly be roleblocked.

If Alot did actually pick kitaman, there are a couple of scenarios:

1) He's town. Someone on one of the mafia teams picked artorias. If they have any way to roleblock him they probably will? I don't think anyone took Yu for the anti-roleblock, right?

2) He's mafia WITH Artorias. He can just claim he was roleblocked forever.

3) He's mafia on the other mafia Team. Probably the best case scenario, becuase it has the lowest chance of being roleblocked, and if it isn't roleblocked he doesn't have any reason to keep the result to himself.

Yep. So let's just say trackers should track roleblockers / watchers should watch alot. No more precision, there cannot be a million busdrivers.


Nah I think this is a trap. We shouldn't put our eggs in a basket that is very very likely to be mafia.
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January 21 2016 22:10 GMT
#1805
Though if Artorias is on mafia team A and alot is on mafia team B, mafia might kill him for us. :D
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#1812
Oh yeah. I think I have to be saved every night btw. I haven't done the exact math, but we're 14 vs 8 and it's 4 kp n1, 2kp following nights. Mafia is against each other so a little bit of balance there, but it's essentially going to be 1 lynch vs 1 1/2 (and that's optimistic) kp. I think we'll need the town KP for sure.
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January 21 2016 22:24 GMT
#1813
Ok alot.
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January 21 2016 22:28 GMT
#1817
As long as artorias is in the game we need to keep our night actions a bit vague/hidden.
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#1820
On January 22 2016 07:28 AlotSomuch wrote:
Oh. No I hadn't caught up all the way yet. My understanding of my role is it is a one use, cannot be bus-driven, if I pick abysswalker I will be told who has the role unless I am killed or roleblocked. So a watcher on me would net us a scum in any situation, wouldn't it?


I kind of like this post. I don't think it makes him town, but it makes me believe artorias is on the other team at least.
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January 21 2016 22:30 GMT
#1821
In before sicklucker changes his whole story.
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January 21 2016 22:33 GMT
#1826
On January 22 2016 07:32 Cephiro wrote:
I'm also willing to work with both and/or only one mafia to eliminate you evenly or one-sidedly.

Feel free to rat your buddies.


I think you should always declare your target so we/others don't stack and so we get a confirmed town if you die.
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January 21 2016 22:35 GMT
#1829
Rels you are my mason buddy.
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January 21 2016 22:35 GMT
#1831
On January 22 2016 07:34 sicklucker wrote:
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On January 22 2016 07:30 Superbia wrote:
In before sicklucker changes his whole story.


what story?


Like this is some sort of weird play.
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January 21 2016 22:38 GMT
#1835
On January 22 2016 07:36 sicklucker wrote:
so basically im the mayor tormorow and i pick the lynch because no ones dumb enough to vote me (i hope). So because of this I wont be talking about my reads too much to avoid roleblocks


Mehhh. I was hoping we'd get an extra KP. =/ To be honest I think you should only use this when you think town is heading into a shitty direction. Also we don't want to use this on d2 because tomorrow we will have more information. Likely some confirmed mafia.
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January 21 2016 22:39 GMT
#1837
On January 22 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:
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On January 22 2016 07:35 Superbia wrote:
Rels you are my mason buddy.

(=
If you're scum I'm going to be really mad.


Haha same here. I'm never wrong with my mason-read though.
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#1838
On January 22 2016 07:38 Rels wrote:
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On January 22 2016 07:36 sicklucker wrote:
so basically im the mayor tormorow and i pick the lynch because no ones dumb enough to vote me (i hope). So because of this I wont be talking about my reads too much to avoid roleblocks

Cool. That's 1 mysterious challenger role claimed, and it's a easily verifyable power.


Meh. I think SL was already town though. I kinda wanted him to claim last.
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January 21 2016 22:41 GMT
#1840
SL, don't use your powers tonight/tomorrow, for explanation look at what I posted.
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#1843
On January 22 2016 07:41 CopCake wrote:
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On January 22 2016 07:30 Superbia wrote:
On January 22 2016 07:28 AlotSomuch wrote:
Oh. No I hadn't caught up all the way yet. My understanding of my role is it is a one use, cannot be bus-driven, if I pick abysswalker I will be told who has the role unless I am killed or roleblocked. So a watcher on me would net us a scum in any situation, wouldn't it?


I kind of like this post. I don't think it makes him town, but it makes me believe artorias is on the other team at least.



This is so confusing

what do you mean with "other team" ?


Ugh copcake. People have already told you before that there are 2 mafia teams, each with 4 members. =/ Don't like this.
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#1845
On January 22 2016 07:42 sicklucker wrote:
ill do as i see fit. also your being so bad for forcing me to claim. theres 4 other c who didnt claim yet now they cant acidently choose y role.


SOOO SOO BAD im salty asaik


What are you talking about SL z_z. I never said you had to claim...
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January 21 2016 22:44 GMT
#1848
I want to believe this is sarcasm x:
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#1851
Dude. Obviously that post was not 100% serious. x:
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#1853
On January 22 2016 07:44 CopCake wrote:
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On January 22 2016 07:42 Superbia wrote:
On January 22 2016 07:41 CopCake wrote:
On January 22 2016 07:30 Superbia wrote:
On January 22 2016 07:28 AlotSomuch wrote:
Oh. No I hadn't caught up all the way yet. My understanding of my role is it is a one use, cannot be bus-driven, if I pick abysswalker I will be told who has the role unless I am killed or roleblocked. So a watcher on me would net us a scum in any situation, wouldn't it?


I kind of like this post. I don't think it makes him town, but it makes me believe artorias is on the other team at least.



This is so confusing

what do you mean with "other team" ?


Ugh copcake. People have already told you before that there are 2 mafia teams, each with 4 members. =/ Don't like this.


No I mean, you are sure that a mafia team has that power

why?


SL tried to pick it and it failed, which means someone else took that role (Artorias).
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#1854
On January 22 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote:
in because i challenge super to a duel


Pewpew.
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January 21 2016 22:45 GMT
#1856
> Actually challenging someone with KP to a duel
> meme arrows
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January 21 2016 22:46 GMT
#1859
In all seriousness though SL, it kind of sucks that you claimed, but it was miscommunication. My bad. I still think you're town. All is not lost.
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January 21 2016 22:48 GMT
#1860
I have a feeling people are lurking. Pls stop lurking.
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January 21 2016 22:48 GMT
#1862
Also copcake what Challenger role did you get?
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#1863
On January 22 2016 07:48 Rels wrote:
Alright gonna play one game of HOTS then sleep. Make TT answer my question pretty please if he is not back before I leave


Anyone want to take this for the townie cred? I'm going to sleep somewhat early.
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January 21 2016 22:53 GMT
#1866
FF you're up for TT watching.
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January 21 2016 22:54 GMT
#1868
On January 22 2016 07:48 Superbia wrote:
Also copcake what Challenger role did you get?

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#1873
On January 22 2016 07:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On January 22 2016 07:58 Rels wrote:
On January 22 2016 07:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
I liked rels' case on alot but his thought process about the abysswalker/watcher combo is towny and I like it.

There is a problem in that sentence ?

alot's thought proccess

why?


How do you go from "I like scum-case on X a lot" to "but I think X is townie" in the same sentence? x:
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January 21 2016 23:06 GMT
#1874
On January 22 2016 08:01 kitaman27 wrote:
If someone ended up with Pick their Power Picker from Mysterious Challenger, they should totally grab the gambler by the way.


Gambler is the law. If we can enact that brilliant plan this game I'll be very happy. :D
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January 21 2016 23:13 GMT
#1878
Ok. Walk me through your thought process here FF. You think alot is townie for coming out seemingly genuine against the Artorias picker even though there are two mafia teams???
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#1881
On January 22 2016 08:17 CopCake wrote:
Do I really have to claim sup?


Actually wait for Vivax/TT/Onegu to claim first at least.
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#1882
On January 22 2016 08:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On January 22 2016 08:13 Superbia wrote:
Ok. Walk me through your thought process here FF. You think alot is townie for coming out seemingly genuine against the Artorias picker even though there are two mafia teams???

Well if you think about it all the way through like that... I'm not really thinking about teams tbh it's all scum to me


Meh.
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January 21 2016 23:21 GMT
#1883
Tbh I don't follow this flow of thought for either alignment.
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#1884
Taking into account 2 teams, does that change your opinion on alot?
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#1888
Sigh.
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#1890
Yeah tbh I really don't want the watch to go on you. I'm decently sure the Artorias is not in your alignment group at this point. Watch has more important targets.
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January 21 2016 23:32 GMT
#1892
Just watch for ticktock. x: I'm going to chill&lurk for a bit and then sleep.
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#1896
On January 22 2016 08:36 AlotSomuch wrote:
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On January 22 2016 08:28 Superbia wrote:
Yeah tbh I really don't want the watch to go on you. I'm decently sure the Artorias is not in your alignment group at this point. Watch has more important targets.


So... I have my suspicion, but I want you to elaborate on why you don't think it's worth using a watcher to find out whether (A) I am scum (B) finding scum who try to roleblock me or (C) find out which scum took the dang busdriver role?


So there's 2 scum teams. Team A and team B.

We know team A has Artorias. We know team B essentially gives no shits about team A and vice-versa. So only team A wants to role-block you. I think you're likely not on team A, so you wouldn't benefit from faking a roleblock. The credit only makes you look better. So one of the 3 of the other scum have to have a role-block ability (possible), and be willing to use it on you. Now that means that these roleblockers are either people that fake-picked (will get found out eventually) or picked a role that can roleblock (which are only one-shots, are likely to be found out, and one of them has the watch ability). So they trade either trade a very precious one-time roleblock on you (yes please), or we'll likely find out who they are eventually with more reliable checks.

I'm completely fine with scum wasting a role-block on you if it means other protective/investigative roles are safe. I'm fairly confident in finding scum regardless of your check. You're going to be on my lynch-list regardless of the outcome.
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January 21 2016 23:51 GMT
#1897
Also there's a small possibility of team A having absolutely no role-blocks. Having one or maybe two one-shot roleblocks is the highest probability probably.
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January 22 2016 00:01 GMT
#1899
I don't know where geript is at this game tbh. Had him leaning town earlier this game but he's fallen off since then. Don't think he's a good lynch today but probably a good target for a cop.
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#1900
On January 22 2016 08:59 AlotSomuch wrote:
Actually a very different reasoning than I was expecting; I thought you were going to go with a "other people are more valuable" part of it, and I was going to counter that at this point my result is a guaranteed scum or I am, because there is 0 town reason to take that role, so either a scum took it, I lie about my result in which case I am scum, or SL(I think?) lied about it already being taken, in which case he is scum. There is no such guarantee that our cops (assuming they aren't mafia themselves) will actually find scum today or tomorrow or before they are killed. I do see what you are saying about only having to worry about 3 possible people that would want to block it though. I find it a little weird your lack of interest in a guaranteed scum find though in favor of maybes...


... That is essentially what I said. It's town resources vs mafia resources. From my POV we're using a mafia resource in you to get another mafia. If the other mafia want to invest resources to block your resources then I'm 100% fine by that.
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#1902
I have no idea about your play in general. I do know that there are 8 scum in this game, and I think your gameplay has not been very townie in the least. Start being more proactive and maybe you'll change some minds.
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#1903
I'm off to bed for now.
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#1910
(Pro: That's not a good way to start being proactive btw.)
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#1911
Pro-tip*
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#1915
Wow FF with the actual logic bomb. Nice.
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#1916
Actually doesn't work in the way you describe it but artorias can fuck over watch indeed.
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#1919
On January 22 2016 09:21 AlotSomuch wrote:
Actually, If all actions used on me are driven...then they'd role block/kill who ever the watcher was moved to. And the watcher would see it.


No because they'd swap you with player x and then roleblock x.
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#1922
Watcher should always do what he/she wants because it paranoids mafia.
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#1923
Alot have you played forum mafia before?
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#1926
Not sure what to make of the OMGUS.
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#1927
On January 22 2016 09:28 CopCake wrote:
I have played with alot before and I think it is pretty obvious because I said "You are my fave" and posted a pic with pandas.


How does he compare to his usual game?
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#1929
How does he usually gather his alignment info as town? Like does he push people, or vote logic, or what?
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#1931
I'm going to leave my vote on Vivax because he needs to come in and claim his role.
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January 22 2016 00:32 GMT
#1932
...Among with countless others
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#1933
Also, alot, why the hell are you OMGUSing me, and not VA after he sniped your spot for being scummy?
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#1939
Gonna sleep now.

1. Can someone read that alot OMGUS pls. It's leaving me confused.

2. Pressure on ???-flowers:
- VIVAX
- TICKTOCK
- Onegu
- Copcake
- GlowingBear

Claim. Your. Roles. Specify what challenger you have if you did get it.

3. These people need to show more of themselves:
- Was making a list but pretty much everyone except for a few who already know who they are.

4. BE CAREFUL WITH VOTES. We do not want to push towards majority UNLESS we are 100% lynching that person. Due to artorias.

All right. We lynch mafia tomorrow evening. Look forward to it.
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January 22 2016 15:24 GMT
#2032
Vivax claim your role pls.
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#2033
Rest too. I honestly can't believe you haven't claimed yet if you're town (for each of you). =/
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#2038
Oh I missed that.
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#2039
On January 23 2016 00:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Dimensional Lemming
"You may not knowingly cause there to be a majority of mafia players in either the main game thread or the new game thread."

I wonder if we can use this as like a pseudo dt check if we include Vivax and two of the scummiest players.



I like the idea but seems very unreliable.
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January 22 2016 15:35 GMT
#2046
I'm pretty okay with a Vivax at this point in time. No idea what he's doing tbh.

I want pressure on other question marks too though. This not claiming bullshit is unacceptable and doesn't help town.
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January 22 2016 15:36 GMT
#2048
Vivax what's your reason for picking the lemming anyway?
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January 22 2016 23:14 GMT
#2306
Tipsy + tired + headache.
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January 22 2016 23:15 GMT
#2307
Can someone recap what has happened
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#2311
On January 23 2016 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
so who do I kill tomorrow im taking suggestions


You shouldn't force the lynch if we get info during the night z.
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#2318
Literally just going to chill+lurk until flip.
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January 23 2016 00:00 GMT
#2379
Good stuff friends. Good job etc. Gonna sleep now.
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January 23 2016 19:03 GMT
#2611
Activity starts monday. Maybe tomorrow night.

Can KP roles tell me who they are shooting? time-travel vigi & dreamflower.

Mafia can tell me as well but idc about stacking there. :D
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January 23 2016 19:03 GMT
#2612
Also someone should save me. Or a watch.
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January 23 2016 19:03 GMT
#2613
I think town kp is necessary to secure, else we won't keep up kp-wise.
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January 23 2016 19:04 GMT
#2614
The shining/cephiro, tell me your targets so we don't stack.
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January 23 2016 19:05 GMT
#2615
Then you also won't stack with investigatives.
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#2616
Ok I'll be back for a bit near deadline.
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January 23 2016 20:56 GMT
#2626
Don't check or KP VA.
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#2629
I think alot is a pretty decent shot since it still allows him to reveal his info tomorrow.
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January 23 2016 21:05 GMT
#2630
I've already said who I'm going to shoot so whatever. Cephiro, if you somehow stack with me I will 100% lynch you tomorrow.
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#2631
Also save me. Always.
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#2632
Ok. Don't disappoint me friends. See you post-flips.
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January 23 2016 23:44 GMT
#2728
Why is VA still alive?
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January 23 2016 23:46 GMT
#2730
Check results.
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#2731
2 kp missing (one of which is mine). Mafia stacked with me on VA most likely, or I was roleblocked and we got a save.

VA is probably always mafia here.
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January 23 2016 23:48 GMT
#2732
Wait, FF you know your moriarty check? Who did you check? You know what kind of sanity you have right?
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January 23 2016 23:50 GMT
#2736
We're not lynching VA, obviously. We should still have the werner role for day kp.
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#2737
On January 24 2016 08:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On January 24 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:
2 kp missing (one of which is mine). Mafia stacked with me on VA most likely, or I was roleblocked and we got a save.

VA is probably always mafia here.


why do you think mafia stacked with you 0o and why did you shoot me in the first place lol


Because you're mafia and you picked hero.
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January 23 2016 23:51 GMT
#2740
werner can shoot VA at 1/2 day and we're all good.

Checks please.
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January 23 2016 23:51 GMT
#2741
On January 24 2016 08:51 Palmar wrote:
do we want to kill VA?


??? Palmar?
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#2743
Talk to me about the world in which VA is town and mafia saved him please.
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January 23 2016 23:53 GMT
#2747
(protip: he's hero)
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January 23 2016 23:56 GMT
#2754
Dude you should've figured this out.

Let's assume VA is town.

Only way mafia will want to reduce KP during the night by saving someone who is not one of their own is to force the town's hand during the day. We can't do anything during the day to the guy because he's the hero. We literally can't lynch him.

So why do they reduce KP during the night from 5 to 3 if he's town? They should've just let me shoot him and use their own KP or roleblock for something more significant.

Easy answer: VA is not town.
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January 23 2016 23:57 GMT
#2761
I'm assuming KP was stacked to save him but another world be me getting RBed and a save occurring. Still unlikely due to the fact he's hero imo.
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#2762
On January 24 2016 08:56 Palmar wrote:
Like half my list players are dead (I did predict the deaths quite well!) geript and obi were both on it.


What's your list?
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January 23 2016 23:59 GMT
#2765
On January 24 2016 08:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On January 24 2016 08:56 Superbia wrote:
Dude you should've figured this out.

Let's assume VA is town.

Only way mafia will want to reduce KP during the night by saving someone who is not one of their own is to force the town's hand during the day. We can't do anything during the day to the guy because he's the hero. We literally can't lynch him.

So why do they reduce KP during the night from 5 to 3 if he's town? They should've just let me shoot him and use their own KP or roleblock for something more significant.

Easy answer: VA is not town.


Do you know how many things could have happened at night that dont involve me getting saved?

not to mention you could be bluffing and not even have shot me. Not sure why you are so adamant about this in a themed game


I should've bluffed. God damn it.
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#2767
On January 24 2016 08:58 Palmar wrote:
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On January 24 2016 08:58 Superbia wrote:
On January 24 2016 08:56 Palmar wrote:
Like half my list players are dead (I did predict the deaths quite well!) geript and obi were both on it.


What's your list?

I think I should not reveal the players still on it?

Although I'm on the verge of just saying fuck it and killing VA

There is two other people on the list, one is likely mafia, the other is likely town.


That's fair enough I think. Better to keep mafia guessing a bit.
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#2774
On January 24 2016 09:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
nuke him koshi, gg.

im not the hero or mafia


Why the hell would you claim hero then!? What's your role?
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January 24 2016 00:02 GMT
#2777
As far as Palmar is concerned, I 100% approve of this shot.
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#2782
Meh. Flowers.
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#2783
Fucker protected himself from the 1kp z_z mannnn
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#2785
Sorry, not meant personal. Just frustrated. x:
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#2786
Onegu is a mystery to me tbh.
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#2788
On January 24 2016 09:05 Palmar wrote:
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On January 24 2016 09:04 AlotSomuch wrote:
AGAIN WHY DID YOU NOT KILL THE CLAIMED BUSDRIVER WHO USED BUSDRIVING TO KILL A TOWN?

who me?

I could kill him, keirathi or rels.

I guess keirathi was the best kill of the bunch.

meh


You got the message that one of your list murdered another?
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#2792
This is why you don't fake claim btw x:
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January 24 2016 00:11 GMT
#2801
We're in such a horrible position right now.

16 players alive.
of which 7 are mafia.
7/16.

Better start killing mafia, mafia.
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January 24 2016 00:12 GMT
#2804
On January 24 2016 09:11 Palmar wrote:
Like my theory is simple.

Who would protect VA? No townie surely would. And since superbia's shot didn't get through I thought there was a good chance he got protected.

I of course didn't think that he was dumb enough to pick a protective role and protect himself and then lie about his role.


Tommy can protect himself from 1kp during the night twice per game.
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#2805
Like this is why you don't fake claim and try to make plays.
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#2807
I'm pretty done for today.
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January 24 2016 00:16 GMT
#2811
What was your role check kita? You should have a 100% check.
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January 24 2016 00:35 GMT
#2836
Right. I'll see tomorrow what comes of this slow roll. Better be worth it. Good night.
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January 24 2016 22:12 GMT
#3128
Super tired. FF actually being mafia is the most messed up thing. Godread = no more.
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January 24 2016 22:14 GMT
#3131
I'm skimming more atm but nothing is really mentally sticking. x:
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January 24 2016 22:15 GMT
#3132
Who wants to kill SL?
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January 24 2016 22:18 GMT
#3134
I'll read this stuff tomorrow. Literally falling asleep. Insanely busy weekend.
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January 25 2016 23:21 GMT
#3334
Did Kita ever mention what the result of his second action was?
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January 25 2016 23:21 GMT
#3336
And sup friends.
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#3337
Damdred do you know what type of doctor you are?
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January 25 2016 23:28 GMT
#3339
So you're the weak doctor?
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January 25 2016 23:33 GMT
#3342
All right. Too bad. :p
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January 25 2016 23:34 GMT
#3343
FF are you actually mafia? You're getting lynched either way. If so, very wp friend. :D
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January 25 2016 23:35 GMT
#3347
Do players roleblocked by the paranoid doctor receive a notification that they're been roleblocked?
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#3349
FF give your final thoughts.
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January 25 2016 23:36 GMT
#3350
Kita same. Also what was your secondary action???
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January 25 2016 23:38 GMT
#3352
Like tbh, the fact that kita hasn't claimed his second action makes me believe he's going to flip red. =/

I'm expecting an EoD knowledge bomb or a (double? I dare to hope :D) red flip.
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January 25 2016 23:39 GMT
#3356
FF probably isn't. This isn't his usual town play atm.
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January 25 2016 23:45 GMT
#3361
I don't think FF is town. I believe he would be super paranoid in this situation, putting blame left and right.
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#3363
On January 26 2016 08:45 Damdred wrote:
Keep you alive until lylo and endgame you.

If kita is scum you gave us no help at eod so there is no reason to switch.

Super palmar list is non block able so he could of been carrying a kp and I blocked him I guess since we were missing one.


I hope you're talking about keeping me alive tbh.
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January 25 2016 23:49 GMT
#3365
Ah I see. Hint is in the "endgame you". :p
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#3366
Hmm. I wonder if he would still get a message whether he got roleblocked.
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January 25 2016 23:51 GMT
#3368
Already know who I'm shooting tonight. :D
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#3372
?????
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#3373
ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?>
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January 25 2016 23:54 GMT
#3376
Kita please tell me you're joking.
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#3381
I have no idea what to do. You have a hard town check on FF??
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January 25 2016 23:55 GMT
#3383
Shenannies onto TT?
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#3388
Kita what was the result of your main action? The track?
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#3389
Yeah this is never happening with 3m z_z.
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#3391
On January 26 2016 08:57 Palmar wrote:
he's trolling. There is literally no way kita who actually thinks about roles and shit failed to notice this.


Then where the fuck is his track result?
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#3392
On January 26 2016 08:56 Superbia wrote:
Kita what was the result of your main action? The track?

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#3396
On January 26 2016 08:58 Damdred wrote:
Didn't someone have a scum check on onegu or someone? And we thought was inverted cause of kita?
I mean if what he says now is right we have that lynch but kita flips scum,here ff town.

Then,who,knows what this means


Wait we did?
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#3398
On January 26 2016 08:57 Superbia wrote:
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On January 26 2016 08:56 Superbia wrote:
Kita what was the result of your main action? The track?


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#3401
Kita what was the result of your main action? The track?
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#3414
HAHAHAHA
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#3415
PALMAR YOU MAGNIFICENT GENIUS
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#3421
Fucking GG FF. Wp my man. :D
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#3428
Oh man. I'm like 95% sure I'm shooting mafia tonight as well. :D
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#3432
On January 26 2016 09:05 The Shining wrote:
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On January 26 2016 09:04 Superbia wrote:
Oh man. I'm like 95% sure I'm shooting mafia tonight as well. :D


I kinda like you, don't shoot me


;p
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#3434
I think at least 1 protective role has to protect me tonight.
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#3435
Though I think Palmar may have earned some protection as well :p
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January 26 2016 00:19 GMT
#3446
It's the U.S. of A.

Filthy foreigner.
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January 26 2016 00:21 GMT
#3450
Yo mafia is:

3
v
2

3, if you wipe out the 2 you never have to be afraid of night kp hitting you.

2, you're way behind the 3. Better make things equal or even better, get ahead.

Just remember, I'm hitting a mafia. It could be one from your team. Do you want to fall behind the other mafia team?
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#3455
On January 26 2016 09:23 disformation wrote:
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On January 26 2016 09:22 disformation wrote:
On January 26 2016 09:21 Superbia wrote:
Yo mafia is:

3
v
2

3, if you wipe out the 2 you never have to be afraid of night kp hitting you.

2, you're way behind the 3. Better make things equal or even better, get ahead.

Just remember, I'm hitting a mafia. It could be one from your team. Do you want to fall behind the other mafia team?

How do you know it is 2v3? Oo

nevermind am stupid.


:D
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January 26 2016 22:25 GMT
#3700
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January 26 2016 22:58 GMT
#3702
Shooting Ticktock
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January 26 2016 23:34 GMT
#3710
"You were roleblocked"
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January 26 2016 23:34 GMT
#3711
We are missing 2 shots.
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January 26 2016 23:35 GMT
#3714
Anyone want to claim roleblock on me?
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January 26 2016 23:35 GMT
#3715
Hmmm??
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January 26 2016 23:37 GMT
#3719
1 save more than likely.

Do we get to see whether Damdred was the Paranoid Doctor or the normal Doctor from the flip? I.e. Does Damdred flipping "doctor" mean for sure that he was the regular doctor?
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January 26 2016 23:38 GMT
#3721
Small chance damdred save + roleblocked me if flip info is disguised. Even so, Palmar would've claimed if he was roleblocked d1. So very likely mafia roleblock on me for sure.
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January 26 2016 23:39 GMT
#3724
On January 27 2016 08:38 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 08:36 disformation wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:34 disformation wrote:
voting GB give me a moment to cobble together a case

actually wait.

Let us find out who blocked superbia.
Only ones with block are GB and Koshi, right?


hum he was roleblocked im asuming super is confirming that. makes it more interesting. Koshis not going to block him? so It was probably just gb claiming mafia


Yup. Got a PM saying I was roleblocked.
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January 26 2016 23:39 GMT
#3725
On January 27 2016 08:39 GreYMisT wrote:
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On January 27 2016 08:37 Superbia wrote:
1 save more than likely.

Do we get to see whether Damdred was the Paranoid Doctor or the normal Doctor from the flip? I.e. Does Damdred flipping "doctor" mean for sure that he was the regular doctor?


That information is not revealed


Interesting.

Well, damdred claimed a save on Palmar d1 if I'm not mistaken. And palmar did not get a you were roleblocked message afaik. So I'm assuming roleblock is very likely mafia.
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January 26 2016 23:39 GMT
#3726
On January 27 2016 08:38 sicklucker wrote:
Super were you notified you were roleblocked? there are doctors and potential unknown roles TT could be a vet for all we know


Yes. I got notified.
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January 26 2016 23:42 GMT
#3729
Glowingbear did you roleblock me?

Koshi did you roleblock me?
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January 26 2016 23:44 GMT
#3733
Wait what challenger was GB again? I don't have him down as anything specific.
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January 26 2016 23:46 GMT
#3738
If onegu wasn't roleblocked/lying then the KP put on damdred was meant for palmar.
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January 26 2016 23:49 GMT
#3743
On January 27 2016 08:42 Superbia wrote:
Glowingbear did you roleblock me?

Koshi did you roleblock me?


Most important question for first part of the day.
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January 26 2016 23:50 GMT
#3745
On January 27 2016 08:48 Palmar wrote:
also 12 people alive, 5 are mafia.

palmar, koshi, rels, superbia, sicklucker get a pass.

The rest of you create cases on each other.


Yup yup. Like all 5. Except if Koshi blocked me.
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January 26 2016 23:51 GMT
#3748
On January 27 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote:
Super being RB'd just means mafia wanted to stop him from saving/killing anyone.

Implying that the RB happened to save me is silly kus he claimed who he would shoot at the last second.

Not like it helps prove I'm town, but it def doesn't confirm me as mafia.


Who do you think is the most likely to have blocked me, and why?
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January 26 2016 23:53 GMT
#3752
On January 27 2016 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
OH AND ONE OF THE MAFIA SAID YOU WERE ON THE OTHER MAFIA TEAM AFTER MAFIA ON MAFIA VIOLENCE HAPPENED OUT OF RAGE.

This acualy happened right? can someone confirm im not making this up in my head?


I believe FF said he was with Kita.
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January 26 2016 23:58 GMT
#3759
Look at ticktock's read progression on disformation btw. It's pretty funny.
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January 27 2016 00:04 GMT
#3768
On January 27 2016 09:02 Koshi wrote:
I am afk the entire day. Just complete bullshit how this game is just wait till mafia decide to kill mafia. Unbelievable stupid.


My shots should start going through at some point z_z. Sometime before I'm killed hopefully.
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January 27 2016 00:08 GMT
#3773
Yeah I'm pretty sold on Palmar who pretty much lynched 3 mafia all not on the same team as being possibly mafia.
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January 27 2016 00:10 GMT
#3778
TT can you please talk a little more about "the other 6".
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January 27 2016 00:13 GMT
#3789
On January 27 2016 09:13 Koshi wrote:
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On January 27 2016 09:10 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:09 Koshi wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:05 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:54 Onegu wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:48 Palmar wrote:
also 12 people alive, 5 are mafia.

palmar, koshi, rels, superbia, sicklucker get a pass.

The rest of you create cases on each other.



I just saved you from KP and I dont get a Pass? What do I have to do???

if you hadn't touched me, damdred would've saved me and not died... I think?

Is this true? If you are bussed with Damdred. And damdred protects you, doesn't damdred protect himself? So how did he die?

yeah I didn't think of that.

Are you willing to be responsible for a townread one onegu?

No. But he did save you.
Just like he saved me.
And again somebody died who we thought was mafia. (Damdred) or at least the very least less mafia than you.
At this point I don't really care who is mafia.

Honestly I think this is why it's priority we find the mafia rber right now.


We lynch mafia and are punished. We can lynch mafia each day and lose. Just ridiculous.

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January 27 2016 00:14 GMT
#3790
Where the fuck did my post go.
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January 27 2016 00:14 GMT
#3792
Jesus it's in the quote. I may be a bit drunk.
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January 27 2016 00:14 GMT
#3793
On January 27 2016 09:13 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 09:13 Koshi wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:10 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:09 Koshi wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:05 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:54 Onegu wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:48 Palmar wrote:
also 12 people alive, 5 are mafia.

palmar, koshi, rels, superbia, sicklucker get a pass.

The rest of you create cases on each other.



I just saved you from KP and I dont get a Pass? What do I have to do???

if you hadn't touched me, damdred would've saved me and not died... I think?

Is this true? If you are bussed with Damdred. And damdred protects you, doesn't damdred protect himself? So how did he die?

yeah I didn't think of that.

Are you willing to be responsible for a townread one onegu?

No. But he did save you.
Just like he saved me.
And again somebody died who we thought was mafia. (Damdred) or at least the very least less mafia than you.
At this point I don't really care who is mafia.

We lynch mafia and are punished. We can lynch mafia each day and lose. Just ridiculous.




Honestly I think this is why it's priority we find the mafia rber right now.
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January 27 2016 00:14 GMT
#3794
Fixed.
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January 27 2016 00:15 GMT
#3797
On January 27 2016 09:13 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 09:10 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:09 Koshi wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:05 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:54 Onegu wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:48 Palmar wrote:
also 12 people alive, 5 are mafia.

palmar, koshi, rels, superbia, sicklucker get a pass.

The rest of you create cases on each other.



I just saved you from KP and I dont get a Pass? What do I have to do???

if you hadn't touched me, damdred would've saved me and not died... I think?

Is this true? If you are bussed with Damdred. And damdred protects you, doesn't damdred protect himself? So how did he die?

yeah I didn't think of that.

Are you willing to be responsible for a townread one onegu?

No. But he did save you.
Just like he saved me.
And again somebody died who we thought was mafia. (Damdred) or at least the very least less mafia than you.
At this point I don't really care who is mafia.

We lynch mafia and are punished. We can lynch mafia each day and lose. Just ridiculous.


Honestly I think this is why it's priority we find the mafia rber right now.
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January 27 2016 00:15 GMT
#3798
Fixed***
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January 27 2016 00:18 GMT
#3802
On January 27 2016 09:17 sicklucker wrote:
Gb has a 1 time roleblock anyway so no real reason to prioritize. I doubt he lied about his role as the 22ed pick in the draft but you never know


That's actually true and a good point. I still want GB to claim whether he roleblocked me or not though.
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January 27 2016 00:22 GMT
#3809
TT who did you think I was going to shoot in the night?
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January 27 2016 00:23 GMT
#3811
On January 27 2016 09:22 Koshi wrote:
This copcake person should shovel GB and then we lynch her. Easy peasy fucking lemon squuezy. GB not using kenpachi on copcake should be telling enough.


This train of thought. Yes. I am on board.
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January 27 2016 00:25 GMT
#3820
On January 27 2016 09:25 Koshi wrote:
I am even willing to let Copcake live if she shovels GB


Yes. We are close in terms of mindset and geography both.
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January 27 2016 00:26 GMT
#3823
On January 27 2016 09:25 Tictock wrote:
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On January 27 2016 09:22 Superbia wrote:
TT who did you think I was going to shoot in the night?


The fuck would I know, least until you posted that you were gunna shoot me.

I don't recall any of your posts last night before that one.


Can you elaborate a bit on copcake and glowingbear?
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January 27 2016 00:28 GMT
#3826
Copcake, there has been a formal request issued to you by the town to use your shovel on glowingbear. Please kindly comply.
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January 27 2016 00:46 GMT
#3841
Palmar what's your thought on shoveling GB?
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January 27 2016 00:52 GMT
#3849
On January 27 2016 09:48 Palmar wrote:
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On January 27 2016 09:46 Superbia wrote:
Palmar what's your thought on shoveling GB?

perfectly fine with it.


Think it's important you are vocally behind it then. iirc copcake said you could direct her shovel ability.
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January 27 2016 00:57 GMT
#3850
I can't stay awake. Good night friends.
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January 27 2016 21:25 GMT
#4123
Aw man. I really wanted to pressure Onegu in using his ability on someone of our choice first. =/
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January 27 2016 21:34 GMT
#4126
On January 28 2016 06:31 Koshi wrote:
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On January 28 2016 06:25 Superbia wrote:
Aw man. I really wanted to pressure Onegu in using his ability on someone of our choice first. =/

Pretty hard to do. Need to keep him alive another day as well. Meh. If we believe he is scum he won't do it anyway probably. Like... It's not like scum don't want to get lynched. They just shoot townies in the night and town can't keep up.

It's ridiculous.


My shots need to start connecting. x: All RB bullshit should be out of the way now. In before I die tonight.
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January 27 2016 21:34 GMT
#4128
On January 28 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:
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On January 28 2016 06:25 Superbia wrote:
Aw man. I really wanted to pressure Onegu in using his ability on someone of our choice first. =/

That cannot work.


Obviously.
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January 27 2016 21:37 GMT
#4130
Jesus, I enter and you leave? Lame. Your reaction to Palmar's "Lynch SL" test was kind of weird imo. x:
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January 27 2016 21:40 GMT
#4132
On January 28 2016 06:39 Rels wrote:
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On January 28 2016 06:37 Superbia wrote:
Jesus, I enter and you leave? Lame. Your reaction to Palmar's "Lynch SL" test was kind of weird imo. x:

Yep I'm tired. :p So I'm the only one that found SL s reaction super weird apparently.


Idk. I'm going to read some more into it later. I thought SLs reaction was very SLery looking back, though imo it was kind of an obvious ploy.
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January 27 2016 21:53 GMT
#4133
Have to do some more stuff rq. Some game solverino then :D
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January 27 2016 23:43 GMT
#4139
CopCake give me some god-tier reads.
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January 27 2016 23:46 GMT
#4140
Palmar, how does Kita usually treat his team mates in thread? Do he town-read them? Does he null-read them? Does he mafia-read them?
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January 28 2016 00:07 GMT
#4143
Nah man. Use the resources you have. :D I have caught 100% mafia the same way.

I'm pretty sure from kita's filter alone that Vivax was likely with FF (opposite of Kita). Also leaning towards GB being a hit and on Kita's team.
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January 28 2016 00:09 GMT
#4145
I think there's a hidden mafia in keir/rels btw. Purely gut.
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January 28 2016 00:11 GMT
#4148
On January 28 2016 09:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 09:07 Superbia wrote:
Nah man. Use the resources you have. :D I have caught 100% mafia the same way.

I'm pretty sure from kita's filter alone that Vivax was likely with FF (opposite of Kita). Also leaning towards GB being a hit and on Kita's team.

OBS QT: remember to make fun of him if this is wrong pls


But I get creds if it is. Risk/reward etc.
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January 28 2016 00:14 GMT
#4150
On January 28 2016 09:11 Palmar wrote:
no shooterino into that though I think

although who cares. As long as you murder people I'm fine with it.


You have no idea how disappointing the nights have been so far for me.

And nah. I think we have way more pressing targets for now. Rels should die to mafia anyway before long because of his supermedic role.
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January 28 2016 00:15 GMT
#4151
Onegu better flip mafia btw, or else this game gets a lot harder.
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January 28 2016 00:17 GMT
#4152
I think TT/disfo are obvious targets. I think you need to start considering the shining for sure. I actually did not like how he paranoid acted towards me the previous night (combined with GB RBing me).
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January 28 2016 00:21 GMT
#4153
Does Captain Reynolds Part of the Crew visit a player?
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January 28 2016 00:24 GMT
#4154
God damnit. We should've had onegu kill off disformation with his ability and then lynched onegu. We could've forced keir to house diagnostics rels with only KP being able to interfere.
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January 28 2016 00:25 GMT
#4155
As it stands I believe we can only have keirs target disformation without hidden shenanigans and I kind of don't care about that diagnostic.
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January 28 2016 00:27 GMT
#4156
Can we get an explanation on the vanilla virus? What exactly does it do?
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January 28 2016 00:28 GMT
#4157
More precisely, does it prevent a mafia from delivering KP?
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January 28 2016 00:29 GMT
#4158
Fuck it's already 1:30.
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January 28 2016 00:33 GMT
#4159
Hmm it may be time to start directing our PRs exactly what to do. I don't think there are any mafia roleblockers in the game, and I think the roles list we have produced is accurate.

I think Koshi doesn't need to be protected due to his madhatter ability. Kill Koshi? Give town another KP.
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January 28 2016 00:33 GMT
#4160
Actually can we get auto if roles comply?
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January 28 2016 00:38 GMT
#4162
Actually it's fucking impossible (probably not literally, but I'm planning to figure it out) to determine how many mafia are dying /what is happening during the night even if you assume worst case (GB and Onegu both town).
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January 28 2016 00:38 GMT
#4163
On January 28 2016 09:37 sicklucker wrote:
no we def wont have auto wtf. Too much depends on who mafia nk. They have 2kp we have 1 we can not have auto


Yeh.
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January 28 2016 00:39 GMT
#4164
HOWEVER
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January 28 2016 00:41 GMT
#4165
Night actions:

Koshi -> Madhatter The Shining
Superbia -> CPR tictock

disfo -> heal Superbia
Rels -> heal Palmar

Keirathi -> track RNG between The Shining/copcake/disfo/TT
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January 28 2016 00:41 GMT
#4166
I think those actions are great, but could be refined.
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January 28 2016 00:42 GMT
#4167
Maybe different madhat target for koshi. RNG range of keir could be shortened.
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January 28 2016 00:42 GMT
#4169
We can add rels to the RNG list.
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January 28 2016 00:43 GMT
#4170
I think those actions fuck mafia super hard.
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January 28 2016 00:46 GMT
#4173
On January 28 2016 09:44 sicklucker wrote:
Take disinfo out of the rng because were just lynching him anyway apparently


Nah. I want mafia to be super scared about who is going to carry their KP. Bonus is if keir is town, there's potential for both mafia to be super scared.
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January 28 2016 00:47 GMT
#4174
Track also heals the target if it's KP so there's that benefit as well.
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January 28 2016 00:50 GMT
#4176
Actually it doesn't track then, but that's actually kind of whatever. Since I'm assuming mafia will never stack with medic if save is announced. So KP prevention = win. Bonus: mafia can't WIFOM this shit since they're still risking getting rekt (due to RNG list) AND we get KP reduction.
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January 28 2016 00:50 GMT
#4177
On January 28 2016 09:49 sicklucker wrote:
ALso keirs a tracker? how has he given us nothing useful all game..


Apparently tracked damdred n2. I don't think who he tracked n1 actually. I believe palmar?
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January 28 2016 00:54 GMT
#4178
Like I think Koshi doesn't madhat someone like disfo because it starts forcing mafia to kill protective roles (possibility of mafia killing mafia) to get out of the lock. So we can force mafia to kill off disfo. We need to get some protection for rels though.

Maybe disfo heals rels and rels heals me and palmar? I'm not sure how many points he has left (nor do I want him to out this).
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January 28 2016 00:55 GMT
#4179
Also the madhatter target needs to be a great target. I'm not that sure on the shining.
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January 28 2016 00:58 GMT
#4180
All right. It's 2 am so I'm going to head off. Everyone, let me know what you think of my plan. Thoughts etc.

Goodnight flowers. :D
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January 28 2016 22:55 GMT
#4261
On January 29 2016 06:23 Onegu wrote:
It wasnt as serious as first thought. Thanks for the well wishes! <3


Good man! All the best.

On January 29 2016 04:04 Keirathi wrote:
I'm running a 102 degree fever and feel like someone dropped me off of a 10 story building.

I still think onegu and SL are both kinda town, maybe even slightly less on SL because of his complete lack of opinion towards Kita, but I dont have it in me to fight for it so I'm just going to sheep.


Damn man, take care.
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January 28 2016 22:55 GMT
#4262
Also sup all.
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January 28 2016 22:58 GMT
#4263
On January 28 2016 19:44 Tictock wrote:
^ that took forever. Thank god I have some time to do the same for Super and Rels, Super will be first kus his filter is more manageable.

If Rels is mafia he might have a chance to shoot me before I ever get through his huge filter.

Gunna take a break.


Whatever happened to this and the scumread on me btw.

I kind of liked the read since the argument is not wrong (though the conclusion is) but meh.
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January 28 2016 22:58 GMT
#4264
And we're staying on onegu.
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January 28 2016 22:59 GMT
#4265
Rels should probably save me and koshi both then. I want koshi in the late game. :D
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January 28 2016 23:00 GMT
#4266
Since disfo would have no reason to actually save me if he's flipping mafia from my shot.
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January 28 2016 23:04 GMT
#4267
On January 29 2016 01:05 disformation wrote:
Oh I also didn't like Superbia's plan much.
Like Koshi would need to randomize his mad hatter thing, too. Assuming two teams cause currently 4-5 mafia alive (I think it is 4 but we cant be 100% sure yet) and we don't know what onegu will flip.
So if Koshi doesn't randomize his mad hatter thing and gets no protection one of the two teams, one just shoots Koshi to get a 2 for 1, since the person koshi targets can't be on both scum teams. Doubly so should he target town.


So if Koshi does his RNG thing, the plan is good?
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January 28 2016 23:12 GMT
#4269
On January 29 2016 08:10 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 08:00 Superbia wrote:
Since disfo would have no reason to actually save me if he's flipping mafia from my shot.

Better than protecting facepalmar.

Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 08:04 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:05 disformation wrote:
Oh I also didn't like Superbia's plan much.
Like Koshi would need to randomize his mad hatter thing, too. Assuming two teams cause currently 4-5 mafia alive (I think it is 4 but we cant be 100% sure yet) and we don't know what onegu will flip.
So if Koshi doesn't randomize his mad hatter thing and gets no protection one of the two teams, one just shoots Koshi to get a 2 for 1, since the person koshi targets can't be on both scum teams. Doubly so should he target town.


So if Koshi does his RNG thing, the plan is good?

Don't ask me, I don't think my opinion is valued any longer in this environment. Ask Palmar, he will probably yell at ppl if he doesn't like the plan.


Palmar is not the only person in this game.

I want to know your opinion on the plan if Koshi RNGs.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:19 GMT
#4272
On January 29 2016 08:18 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 08:12 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:10 disformation wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:00 Superbia wrote:
Since disfo would have no reason to actually save me if he's flipping mafia from my shot.

Better than protecting facepalmar.

On January 29 2016 08:04 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:05 disformation wrote:
Oh I also didn't like Superbia's plan much.
Like Koshi would need to randomize his mad hatter thing, too. Assuming two teams cause currently 4-5 mafia alive (I think it is 4 but we cant be 100% sure yet) and we don't know what onegu will flip.
So if Koshi doesn't randomize his mad hatter thing and gets no protection one of the two teams, one just shoots Koshi to get a 2 for 1, since the person koshi targets can't be on both scum teams. Doubly so should he target town.


So if Koshi does his RNG thing, the plan is good?

Don't ask me, I don't think my opinion is valued any longer in this environment. Ask Palmar, he will probably yell at ppl if he doesn't like the plan.


Palmar is not the only person in this game.

I want to know your opinion on the plan if Koshi RNGs.

*sigh*
Well. As I said before:
If Koshi's target is known, koshi is not protected and there are still two scum teams around one of the two scum teams just shoots koshi for the free 2 for 1 kill.
Unless Koshi is scum (which I very very highly doubt) this is either a 1-1 trade or two dead towners, depending on who he hatters. Depends a bit on the Onegu flip, but I don't think this is a very good outcome for town.
So by rnging his bomb it would be very risky for scum to shoot him, even if there are still two teams alive. Plus leaves prot open for ppl like you and facepalmar.


Okay. Granted we do that. How's the plan then?
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:31 GMT
#4276
On January 29 2016 08:22 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:18 disformation wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:12 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:10 disformation wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:00 Superbia wrote:
Since disfo would have no reason to actually save me if he's flipping mafia from my shot.

Better than protecting facepalmar.

On January 29 2016 08:04 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:05 disformation wrote:
Oh I also didn't like Superbia's plan much.
Like Koshi would need to randomize his mad hatter thing, too. Assuming two teams cause currently 4-5 mafia alive (I think it is 4 but we cant be 100% sure yet) and we don't know what onegu will flip.
So if Koshi doesn't randomize his mad hatter thing and gets no protection one of the two teams, one just shoots Koshi to get a 2 for 1, since the person koshi targets can't be on both scum teams. Doubly so should he target town.


So if Koshi does his RNG thing, the plan is good?

Don't ask me, I don't think my opinion is valued any longer in this environment. Ask Palmar, he will probably yell at ppl if he doesn't like the plan.


Palmar is not the only person in this game.

I want to know your opinion on the plan if Koshi RNGs.

*sigh*
Well. As I said before:
If Koshi's target is known, koshi is not protected and there are still two scum teams around one of the two scum teams just shoots koshi for the free 2 for 1 kill.
Unless Koshi is scum (which I very very highly doubt) this is either a 1-1 trade or two dead towners, depending on who he hatters. Depends a bit on the Onegu flip, but I don't think this is a very good outcome for town.
So by rnging his bomb it would be very risky for scum to shoot him, even if there are still two teams alive. Plus leaves prot open for ppl like you and facepalmar.


Okay. Granted we do that. How's the plan then?


Hmmm... looks solid for me.


Pewpew.

You don't say "I don't like this plan" as town when the only problem you have is a minor detail easily fixed. Not correct town mindset.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:41 GMT
#4280
On January 29 2016 08:39 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 08:31 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:22 disformation wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:18 disformation wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:12 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:10 disformation wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:00 Superbia wrote:
Since disfo would have no reason to actually save me if he's flipping mafia from my shot.

Better than protecting facepalmar.

On January 29 2016 08:04 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:05 disformation wrote:
Oh I also didn't like Superbia's plan much.
Like Koshi would need to randomize his mad hatter thing, too. Assuming two teams cause currently 4-5 mafia alive (I think it is 4 but we cant be 100% sure yet) and we don't know what onegu will flip.
So if Koshi doesn't randomize his mad hatter thing and gets no protection one of the two teams, one just shoots Koshi to get a 2 for 1, since the person koshi targets can't be on both scum teams. Doubly so should he target town.


So if Koshi does his RNG thing, the plan is good?

Don't ask me, I don't think my opinion is valued any longer in this environment. Ask Palmar, he will probably yell at ppl if he doesn't like the plan.


Palmar is not the only person in this game.

I want to know your opinion on the plan if Koshi RNGs.

*sigh*
Well. As I said before:
If Koshi's target is known, koshi is not protected and there are still two scum teams around one of the two scum teams just shoots koshi for the free 2 for 1 kill.
Unless Koshi is scum (which I very very highly doubt) this is either a 1-1 trade or two dead towners, depending on who he hatters. Depends a bit on the Onegu flip, but I don't think this is a very good outcome for town.
So by rnging his bomb it would be very risky for scum to shoot him, even if there are still two teams alive. Plus leaves prot open for ppl like you and facepalmar.


Okay. Granted we do that. How's the plan then?


Hmmm... looks solid for me.


Pewpew.

You don't say "I don't like this plan" as town when the only problem you have is a minor detail easily fixed. Not correct town mindset.

Not sure why you would call scum basically controlling 3 of 4 KP a minor detail, but sure if you say so.


You think I'm scum now? Explain.
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January 28 2016 23:41 GMT
#4282
On January 29 2016 08:39 Onegu wrote:
One person unvoteing me gives me not majority and while we dont have a lynch I shoot disformation


Tempting, but we have no guarantee you'll do such a thing. So no. I'll get the credit during the night. :D
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:42 GMT
#4284
On January 29 2016 08:41 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 08:41 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:39 disformation wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:31 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:22 disformation wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:18 disformation wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:12 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:10 disformation wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:00 Superbia wrote:
Since disfo would have no reason to actually save me if he's flipping mafia from my shot.

Better than protecting facepalmar.

On January 29 2016 08:04 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

So if Koshi does his RNG thing, the plan is good?

Don't ask me, I don't think my opinion is valued any longer in this environment. Ask Palmar, he will probably yell at ppl if he doesn't like the plan.


Palmar is not the only person in this game.

I want to know your opinion on the plan if Koshi RNGs.

*sigh*
Well. As I said before:
If Koshi's target is known, koshi is not protected and there are still two scum teams around one of the two scum teams just shoots koshi for the free 2 for 1 kill.
Unless Koshi is scum (which I very very highly doubt) this is either a 1-1 trade or two dead towners, depending on who he hatters. Depends a bit on the Onegu flip, but I don't think this is a very good outcome for town.
So by rnging his bomb it would be very risky for scum to shoot him, even if there are still two teams alive. Plus leaves prot open for ppl like you and facepalmar.


Okay. Granted we do that. How's the plan then?


Hmmm... looks solid for me.


Pewpew.

You don't say "I don't like this plan" as town when the only problem you have is a minor detail easily fixed. Not correct town mindset.

Not sure why you would call scum basically controlling 3 of 4 KP a minor detail, but sure if you say so.


You think I'm scum now? Explain.

Where did I say that you are scum? Oo


I'm assuming the one extra kp you're talking about is mine? And the 4th being koshi's RNG?
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:44 GMT
#4287
And with Koshi RNGing that's no longer an issue. And that was your issue with the plan.

My main gripe with this is the way you approach the plan anyway. I think dismissing it like that is very anti-town.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:45 GMT
#4290
There's no more RB for scum.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:47 GMT
#4294
On January 29 2016 08:46 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 08:45 Superbia wrote:
There's no more RB for scum.



Do we know this for sure?


I think all roles are legit at this point in time.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:51 GMT
#4298
We're 11. We can't "no-lynch" via majority rule since we can't throw away votes. I'm not planning on trading SL for your life + a possible shot on disfo (who's dying tonight anyway) tbh.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:51 GMT
#4299
I don't believe we can no-lynch. Else SL's ability would be garbage (it already is for town).
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:52 GMT
#4301
Everyone's sudden absence is kind of disturbing.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:53 GMT
#4304
On January 29 2016 08:52 Keirathi wrote:
Onegu: if I unvote you, you shoot me?

I think I have to die if town wants to win because I'm useless and if I stay alive it just gets way harder closer to lylo.


Wow. Really really dislike this. REALLY dislike.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:53 GMT
#4306
On January 29 2016 08:53 Onegu wrote:
Like if I dont Sub just shoots me as it is a mafia claim and I am not mafia...


Yes but we lose a lynch.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:54 GMT
#4307
On January 29 2016 08:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 08:53 Onegu wrote:
Like if I dont Sub just shoots me as it is a mafia claim and I am not mafia...


Yes but we lose a lynch.


Also it's impossible without lynching SL and I'm not planning on doing that.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:55 GMT
#4310
On January 29 2016 08:54 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 08:53 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:53 Onegu wrote:
Like if I dont Sub just shoots me as it is a mafia claim and I am not mafia...


Yes but we lose a lynch.



Not really you just lynched disfor instead of me or SL


I mean if you're mafia. Meh. I think at this point you're both probably town. =/
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:55 GMT
#4312
SL and you, that is.
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Superbia
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January 28 2016 23:57 GMT
#4315
Decision was already made when the power was used on you. =/
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:00 GMT
#4322
Thank god.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:04 GMT
#4334
On January 29 2016 08:52 Keirathi wrote:
Onegu: if I unvote you, you shoot me?

I think I have to die if town wants to win because I'm useless and if I stay alive it just gets way harder closer to lylo.


I think Keir is on the table tomorrow just for this post alone.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:06 GMT
#4336
Also pretty sure disfo is scum.

Not 100% who I'm shooting yet tonight.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:07 GMT
#4339
On January 29 2016 09:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 09:04 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 08:52 Keirathi wrote:
Onegu: if I unvote you, you shoot me?

I think I have to die if town wants to win because I'm useless and if I stay alive it just gets way harder closer to lylo.


I think Keir is on the table tomorrow just for this post alone.

Can't you kill people?


I really, really don't want a GB 2.0 "Oh I prevented your KP bc you were going to kill me lulz".
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:11 GMT
#4341
For the record Keir, you're going to RNG a house track between:

- Tictock
- disformation
- The Shining
- Copcake
- Maybe rels (give this a 1% chance).
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:15 GMT
#4343
I also want to discuss my plan.

I think rels saving both me and koshi is correct. With disfo overlapping on one of us.

TT should visit someone outside of myself or koshi to see if he can get a future roleblock (this is how it works, right?).

Koshi just madhats whoever the fuck he wants bc he shouldn't die.

I put KP on someone.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:18 GMT
#4345
On January 29 2016 09:17 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 09:15 Superbia wrote:
I also want to discuss my plan.

I think rels saving both me and koshi is correct. With disfo overlapping on one of us.

TT should visit someone outside of myself or koshi to see if he can get a future roleblock (this is how it works, right?).

Koshi just madhats whoever the fuck he wants bc he shouldn't die.

I put KP on someone.

TT's role is a day action that activates with the night post.


He has the vanilla virus though, since GB kenpachi'd me last night and I visited TT.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:19 GMT
#4347
Tbh I still have no fucking clue how the vanilla virus actually works or what it's supposed to do.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:24 GMT
#4349
On January 29 2016 09:21 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 09:18 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 09:17 Keirathi wrote:
On January 29 2016 09:15 Superbia wrote:
I also want to discuss my plan.

I think rels saving both me and koshi is correct. With disfo overlapping on one of us.

TT should visit someone outside of myself or koshi to see if he can get a future roleblock (this is how it works, right?).

Koshi just madhats whoever the fuck he wants bc he shouldn't die.

I put KP on someone.

TT's role is a day action that activates with the night post.


He has the vanilla virus though, since GB kenpachi'd me last night and I visited TT.

I think you still have the virus? And whoever you target tonight, you will pass it on to.

At least that's what it sounds like to me from the OP. Wouldn't make much sense if it jumped 2 people each night.


Nah the virus part on me was the roleblock. So my ability gets blocked and then whoever I visited that night instead gets the virus. So I believe TT has the virus right now and will be blocked, and whoever he visits tonight will instead have the virus.

...But since he has a day power he shouldn't be able to spread the virus if he's town.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:27 GMT
#4351
You're being awfully helpful for someone who wanted to get day killed and just recently got on my possible KP list.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:27 GMT
#4352
I'm going to call your helpfulness scummy. How's that for rewarding good behaviour? :D
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:28 GMT
#4354
You're right. Someone told me about it before and it makes sense.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:28 GMT
#4355
Still scum though.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:41 GMT
#4361
I'm going to work a bit on my d&d campaign.

Keir, Disfo, Tictock, Copcake and The Shining, I want you guys to name the 3-4 scum you believe are left in this game. Give some reason but don't make it too long. Before EoN or you may get shot. TY.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:46 GMT
#4364
On January 29 2016 09:40 Koshi wrote:
Fuck... The guy superb wanted to visit last night will get rb this night.


No? I think he gets roleblocked tonight and can cause the roleblock on the next night IF he can visit someone during the night.

Mod can you confirm this is how it works?
I.e. Kenpachi roleblocks player A who visits player B during night N. Now player B is roleblocked during night N+1 and can cause a player P to be roleblocked during night N+2 ONLY if player B can naturally visit player P during night N+1 by using an inherit role ability or alignment ability (player B does not gain an ability to visit someone during the night due to the virus)
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:47 GMT
#4365
On January 29 2016 09:45 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 09:41 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to work a bit on my d&d campaign.

Keir, Disfo, Tictock, Copcake and The Shining, I want you guys to name the 3-4 scum you believe are left in this game. Give some reason but don't make it too long. Before EoN or you may get shot. TY.

There's very little chance I do anything tonight. I still feel awful.

If I feel better tomorrow I'll try to get something up befor EoN.


Oh shit, right. Get better soon man. =/
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:59 GMT
#4372
On January 29 2016 09:56 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 09:46 Superbia wrote:
On January 29 2016 09:40 Koshi wrote:
Fuck... The guy superb wanted to visit last night will get rb this night.


No? I think he gets roleblocked tonight and can cause the roleblock on the next night IF he can visit someone during the night.

Mod can you confirm this is how it works?
I.e. Kenpachi roleblocks player A who visits player B during night N. Now player B is roleblocked during night N+1 and can cause a player P to be roleblocked during night N+2 ONLY if player B can naturally visit player P during night N+1 by using an inherit role ability or alignment ability (player B does not gain an ability to visit someone during the night due to the virus)


The only way player P is roleblocked under your scenario is if player B tried to visit player P on night N+1, ie: the night that player B was roleblocked.


All right, I think I understand, thanks.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 00:59 GMT
#4373
On January 29 2016 09:59 Koshi wrote:
So that's a yes I think?


I think so. :p
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 01:00 GMT
#4375
On January 29 2016 10:00 Koshi wrote:
So TT is rb this night and will rb anybody he visits right?


Except that he shouldn't be able to visit anyone. ;p His role has day power only.
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 01:02 GMT
#4378
On January 29 2016 10:01 Koshi wrote:
So basically if anybody gets the rb message not this night but the night after means tt is mafia?
Strange stuff.

I guess TT should stay at home tonight


What role is tt?


challenger (BlazingHand)
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 01:08 GMT
#4380
On January 29 2016 09:41 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to work a bit on my d&d campaign.

Keir, Disfo, Tictock, Copcake and The Shining, I want you guys to name the 3-4 scum you believe are left in this game. Give some reason but don't make it too long. Before EoN or you may get shot. TY.


This still stands btw.

I'm out. Night. :D
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Superbia
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January 29 2016 22:33 GMT
#4532
Shooting disfo. Will be back in 1hr+.

Rels only protect 3 if you have >3 charges.

Let's go good flips.

See you guys tomorrow.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 01:19 GMT
#4571
How the fuck did Mafia even dare to KP Koshi.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 01:20 GMT
#4572
Man, this really fucking makes me iffy on rels.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 01:20 GMT
#4573
I'm also super tired with a headache because of alcohol + battlestar galactica board game + EDH evening so I'll be peacing out soon.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 01:21 GMT
#4574
First shot to go through, first hit.

100% PR effectiveness in all games.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 01:24 GMT
#4575
Oh man. Why did Koshi have to die. =/ That's such a mindfuck if rels is town.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 01:26 GMT
#4580
Really want to see copcake flip bc of the GB info tbh. Not sure if this is true, but I feel like if GB was town it makes copcake likely mafia. Hedging is for pussies but meh. Want info.

Will revisit this thought when my mind is clearer tomorrow.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 01:26 GMT
#4581
On January 30 2016 10:26 Palmar wrote:
It's super tempting to flip copcake just to know what gb was


Yes.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 01:27 GMT
#4582
On January 30 2016 10:25 Palmar wrote:
I just want to point out how much shit town would be in if we didn't have my godlike reads this game.


Less shit if people (including town) weren't effectively blocking my fucking shots until n3.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 01:27 GMT
#4583
But also yes.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 01:28 GMT
#4584
Ok time to sleep. Mafia super worthless btw.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 20:25 GMT
#4632
Yoyo.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 20:26 GMT
#4633
Some good logic being thrown around, think we can possibly solve the game today. But..

Can someone explain to me why we're assuming disfo did not kill keir?
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 20:37 GMT
#4636
? It actually brings you back on the discussion board rels.

We know there that it's likely 1v1 mafia today. We know it's likely (imo), that disfo carried the KP for his team yesterday.

So:
- Assuming disfo was in team A:
SL, Copcake and ticktock are never on team B.
Which translate to only 1 mafia at most in that group.

So for sure at least 1 mafia in:
- Myself
- Rels
- Palmar
- The Shining

I honestly think it's 1 and it's the shining at this point, but I have backup KP in case.
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Superbia
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January 30 2016 20:37 GMT
#4637
Reason Rels is not confirmed is because while he is on Palmar's Arrow list with Keir, we don't know who disfo hit.
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January 30 2016 20:50 GMT
#4638
I think we really need to hit today, but it's fucking impossible to calculate this game.
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January 30 2016 20:51 GMT
#4639
Like I went over some scenarios where we miss (and assuming it's 5v1v1), and me shooting seems like the best option, but it's still really bad.
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January 30 2016 21:14 GMT
#4641
Actually let me propose the best course of action imo. I'm going to assume 5v1v1, since if we miss-lynch here in 4v2v1 I think we need to depend on mafia hitting mafia. I haven't actually gone over this world in depth, because tbh I don't want to live in this world (and I also don't think it would matter as to our lynch today).

So:

1. We lynch the shining today.
1a. We miss:
- It's 4v1v1.
1a-1 I shoot & miss:
- it's 2v1v1.
- If we have my shot in this scenario we have a lynch and a shot to hit exactly both of the mafia. Shit situation but doable if you assume I'm not the mafia. THEREFORE: Rels has to NOT be mafia, else I die during the night. Actually it's a super fucked up/interesting situation because we can literally still win going into the night in a 1v1v1. But eh? I think lynching + me hitting is the best chance we have in this scenario. If miss then I'm going into the night with 2 mafia and it's going to be WIFOM who shoots who all the way. Kind of offtrack here with thoughts but this would be a super silly but cool ending. I'd probably hold my shot.
- My argument was going to be that I have to shoot rels if we miss on the shining due to the fact that rels would never save me as mafia but 2v1v1 without a second KP from town actually means that town has to lynch town or sleep. Me dying makes Rels confirmed mafia so the other mafia would likely kill him during that night then. And town would have to hope mafia kills each other so lynching town in that scenario is actually best.
- Anyway I'd probably shoot Rels over palmar anyway at this point so whatever.

1a-2 I shoot & hit:
- 3v1. Pretty good. If I'm still alive we lynch that day + shot. Else sleep.

1a-3 I shoot & overlap with KP:
Meh? Some info for next day.

1b. We hit:
5v1
- Good shit
- I hold my shot I think
postnight- 4v1
- I should still be alive
- Lynch + my shot
2v1 worst case. I.e. 3 lynches. EZ.
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January 30 2016 21:15 GMT
#4642
Think that checks out. Bit rambly towards the LYLO components of this game (which are when statistically played, fucking hilarious).
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January 30 2016 21:16 GMT
#4643
On January 31 2016 05:54 The Shining wrote:
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On January 31 2016 05:51 Superbia wrote:
Like I went over some scenarios where we miss (and assuming it's 5v1v1), and me shooting seems like the best option, but it's still really bad.


We will never know without the GB flip if its 5v1v1 or 4v2v1 and you'll probably end up shooting town anyway


Eh? If we miss on you I'm pretty certain it'd be Rels. But it's probably just you.

What are your thoughts?
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January 30 2016 21:18 GMT
#4644
I'm going to do some work.

Most important fact today:
At least 1 mafia in:
- Myself
- Rels
- Palmar
- The shining

I'm going to make a wild assumption and assume that disfo was with one of the others.
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January 30 2016 21:20 GMT
#4645
Actually also somewhat (very) important:

Does the vanilla virus block factional KP (i.e. mafia KP)?
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January 30 2016 21:41 GMT
#4651
On January 31 2016 06:27 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 06:16 Superbia wrote:
On January 31 2016 05:54 The Shining wrote:
On January 31 2016 05:51 Superbia wrote:
Like I went over some scenarios where we miss (and assuming it's 5v1v1), and me shooting seems like the best option, but it's still really bad.


We will never know without the GB flip if its 5v1v1 or 4v2v1 and you'll probably end up shooting town anyway


Eh? If we miss on you I'm pretty certain it'd be Rels. But it's probably just you.

What are your thoughts?


My thoughts are every time you suggest lynching me, my townread gets a little weaker. My thoughts are you've spent a few posts today talking about lylo, numbers, setup, night actions that depend on a lot of moving parts and haven't explained what would make me scum, or Rels scum if I flip town. You are also certain that we are 5v1v1 when there are only 5 flipped scum and we don't know GBs alignment. You're putting a lot of thought and effort into something that could be misinformed from the very beginning.


That's very true, the 5v1v1 is pure conjecture, but I tried putting together 5v2v1 worlds and it's so much harder to calculate the correct play because we don't guarantee KP reduction on a hit.

Also I've been kind of lazy with reads due to the size of the game and my role. I really don't feel like I have to elaborate on my gut-reads due to having KP. Don't need to convince no one of shit. :D

As for both you and rels:
I believe I had you as null early on in the game (which in this game is an automatic scum-lean) and I never shared Palmar's TR on you. I was kind of surprised to find your name as still alive in my roles-list doc (didn't know you were in the game), and, possibly most important of all, there's 1 scum between me, you, rels and palmar. And I think rels and palmar in particular have been wayyyy townier.

Rels:
Had a really really hard town read on him d0-d1. Has fallen off since then. Feel like his saves are actually a bit mehhhh. Especially with the Koshi death.. Despite that still think he's town because I kind of masoned with him d1. I don't give out mason easily.
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January 30 2016 21:41 GMT
#4652
Actually who came up with the fact that the KP had to be on keir?
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January 30 2016 21:41 GMT
#4653
Between me, palmar, the shining.
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January 30 2016 21:41 GMT
#4654
That could've been an actual slip.
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January 30 2016 21:43 GMT
#4655
It's rels. Nvm.
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January 30 2016 21:45 GMT
#4656
Also TT, have partially read your plan and it might be useful to confirm a town or a mafia. Force them to take the roleblock and look at KP. Don't have time to look at all angles bc I really have to do some work now.
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January 30 2016 21:45 GMT
#4657
I like the plan. Have to look at it in depth.

Be back later.
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January 31 2016 12:02 GMT
#4666
On January 31 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 06:18 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to do some work.

Most important fact today:
At least 1 mafia in:
- Myself
- Rels
- Palmar
- The shining

I'm going to make a wild assumption and assume that disfo was with one of the others.

why is this true btw?


All right. I think the points you brought up are correct, and my assumptions are a bit too steep. These are assumptions I made which may actually not be true:

- Glowingbear was the Challenger (Kenpachi). Which means that: I was roleblocked n2->visiting TT->TT is roleblocked n3. Therefore cannot carry KP. HOWEVER. Glowingbear could've just actually been the jailkeeper or something similar. His role never was confirmed because he never flipped. Assuming GB was kenpachi means TT was unable to carry KP last night (I believe).

- Copcake couldn't carry KP last night confirmed. Keir said he would track her and flipped town. So we can safely assume copcake did not carry KP last night.

- SL claimed to have been roleblocked. Koshi is the safe assumption. This is very likely because:
- Koshi was reading SL mafia.
- Koshi more than likely did not use his mad hatter ability because all KP is essentially accounted for. There is a freak world where it was on Keir, but that's so ridiculously far fetched I don't even want to think about it. So no. Likely he used his roleblock.
- He likely didn't claim because it looked like he was going to live.

SO. Essentially we can say:
- SL (92%)
- Copcake (99%)
- Possibly TT (but I'm kind of reluctant now because we never confirmed GB's role).

were unable to carry KP last night.


So let's say we take TT out of that list bc of GB shennanigans.

That means that 2KP has to have come out of his list:
- Myself
- Rels
- Palmar
- Tictock
- The Shining
- Disformation

We know for sure that disfo was mafia and could've carried KP (actually somewhat likely because I outed my KP 25-20m before EoN resolution time iirc).

So as such, we can remove disfo from the list and reduce the KP by at most 1 which leaves us with the conclusion:
There is, ALWAYS at least 1 mafia (to have carried the at least 1 KP) in this list:
- Myself
- Rels
- Palmar
- Tictock (if GB was mafia and lied)
- The Shining
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January 31 2016 12:03 GMT
#4667
Now the whole GB thing I figured out kind of makes the information less relevant because my earlier list is less reliable so meh.
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January 31 2016 12:05 GMT
#4668
I think it leaves copcake off the table for today. And I think it kind confirms SL as being town, because I think he would always have carried the KP for his team last night with the track threat we had lying around.
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January 31 2016 12:08 GMT
#4669
Gonna eat some lunch and do some work. I want everyone to give thoughts on the logic and their own conclusions.

Still pretty undecided on the lynch. =/ I'll be back later today to review some filters to decide.
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January 31 2016 12:17 GMT
#4670
Actually this probably just means very little with TT out of the confirmed not being able to provide KP list. z_z gdi nvm.
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January 31 2016 23:20 GMT
#4795
Here. Reading.
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January 31 2016 23:24 GMT
#4802
Kind of forgot about TT's plan. If we want to lynch rels and roleblock the shining I'm never shooting the shining via TT. I'll be shooting into TT/copcake.

TT you need to do your ban thing during the day right? If so you need to use it before EoD.

I'd prefer to flip the shining today tbh. But in the end I'll just sheep palmar. PoE is PoE.
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January 31 2016 23:27 GMT
#4807
I believe Koshi's roleblock wasn't one-shot from the OP. Neither was his madhat.
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January 31 2016 23:28 GMT
#4808
Wait I'm actually not following the discussion right now. Why do we think Koshi both blocked a KP AND madhatted keir?
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January 31 2016 23:30 GMT
#4815
On February 01 2016 08:29 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 08:28 Superbia wrote:
Wait I'm actually not following the discussion right now. Why do we think Koshi both blocked a KP AND madhatted keir?


We don't. That's the discussion. One ort the other happened n2. But it isn't that he blocked the kp, it's that he could've blocked scum. Or hattered Keir.


If he blocked scum then how the fuck did we see 3kp.
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January 31 2016 23:32 GMT
#4822
On February 01 2016 08:31 sicklucker wrote:
rels this is a more logical explination.

both super and rels killed disinfo. Like this makes so much more sense then what your going on about. Stacked kills


You can't stack with CPR doctor. I would've saved disfo then.
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January 31 2016 23:33 GMT
#4826
On February 01 2016 08:32 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 08:30 Superbia wrote:
On February 01 2016 08:29 The Shining wrote:
On February 01 2016 08:28 Superbia wrote:
Wait I'm actually not following the discussion right now. Why do we think Koshi both blocked a KP AND madhatted keir?


We don't. That's the discussion. One ort the other happened n2. But it isn't that he blocked the kp, it's that he could've blocked scum. Or hattered Keir.


If he blocked scum then how the fuck did we see 3kp.


Rels theory. You shoot Disfo. 1 scum kp Koshi. Hatter on Keir.


He can't do both. He can't roleblock AND hatter.
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January 31 2016 23:35 GMT
#4834
Does the madhatter ability of Dr Werner persist? I.e. if used n2, and you get killed n3. Does your n2 target die?
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January 31 2016 23:35 GMT
#4835
MODDDDSSSSS
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January 31 2016 23:36 GMT
#4837
Everytime I think this game is logicable some inane question appears and idk anymore.
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January 31 2016 23:38 GMT
#4844
I think TT has been decently townie today tbh.
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January 31 2016 23:39 GMT
#4845
TT are you around?
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January 31 2016 23:39 GMT
#4846
I swear if you somehow stack your ability with our lynch I am shooting you 100000%.
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January 31 2016 23:40 GMT
#4848
Palmar if you end up being mafia I'm going to cry for a week. I'm pretty sure you're not though.
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January 31 2016 23:43 GMT
#4853
Koshi 100% rbed SL last night though. I firmly believe that. It makes complete sense. I think SL would've carried the KP for scum last night unless he's scum with palmar but then GG etc. So SL town too.

SL/Palmar/Myself

Ride or die. Kill rest.
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January 31 2016 23:43 GMT
#4854
Waitttt
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January 31 2016 23:43 GMT
#4856
Nvm.
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January 31 2016 23:44 GMT
#4858
On February 01 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
Can someone explain how TT got the virus? Because his rb is the most confirmable one imo.

I'm not sure how Koshi and Keirs rbs would've gone through on nights they died.


Okok.

So GB vanilla'd me n2 because he was afraid I would KP him. Instead I went on TT. So I get RBed but TT gets the virus (i.e. he gets RBed tonight).
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January 31 2016 23:44 GMT
#4860
On February 01 2016 08:44 Rels wrote:
I m feeling disgusted that I did all of this proving keir was bombed by koshi, so TT or copcake was actually roleblocked, and this had no impact whatsoever


Dude tbh I don't think the ability works like this. But mods aren't around to confirm. z_z
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January 31 2016 23:45 GMT
#4861
On February 01 2016 08:44 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
Can someone explain how TT got the virus? Because his rb is the most confirmable one imo.

I'm not sure how Koshi and Keirs rbs would've gone through on nights they died.


Okok.

So GB vanilla'd me n2 because he was afraid I would KP him. Instead I went on TT. So I get RBed but TT gets the virus (i.e. he gets RBed tonight).


Ehh, last night*
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January 31 2016 23:46 GMT
#4866
On February 01 2016 08:46 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 08:44 Superbia wrote:
On February 01 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
Can someone explain how TT got the virus? Because his rb is the most confirmable one imo.

I'm not sure how Koshi and Keirs rbs would've gone through on nights they died.


Okok.

So GB vanilla'd me n2 because he was afraid I would KP him. Instead I went on TT. So I get RBed but TT gets the virus (i.e. he gets RBed tonight).


tonight? so not last night? either way if hes getting rbed tonight we have to keep him in


LAst night*
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January 31 2016 23:48 GMT
#4869
On February 01 2016 08:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 08:44 Superbia wrote:
On February 01 2016 08:44 Rels wrote:
I m feeling disgusted that I did all of this proving keir was bombed by koshi, so TT or copcake was actually roleblocked, and this had no impact whatsoever


Dude tbh I don't think the ability works like this. But mods aren't around to confirm. z_z

I can confirm maf hatter works like that, as can anybody with experience can: like palmar sl etc
If a mad hatter puts a bomb on someone that person will die when the mad hatter dies even if its 3 days later


Oh man. IDK.

Palmar what do?
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January 31 2016 23:50 GMT
#4872
TT you are blocking The Shining?
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January 31 2016 23:52 GMT
#4877
You better be right Palmar. Fucking better be. Lynching my mason buddy. X:
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January 31 2016 23:53 GMT
#4878
Rels. Who do I shoot between copcake and TT? What do you think?
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January 31 2016 23:54 GMT
#4879
Wait. The shining, why are you voting for Rels if you've been defending his stance on Koshi's actions?
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January 31 2016 23:55 GMT
#4882
On February 01 2016 08:54 Tictock wrote:
Barely got a break in time, changed my Ban to Shining.

I get no notification back from the action, we'll be able to verify if TS took the RB by him being able to vote tomorrow.


Ok. Good.
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January 31 2016 23:59 GMT
#4896
YESSSSSSSSSSS
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February 01 2016 00:00 GMT
#4898
GOTEM BOYS
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February 01 2016 00:00 GMT
#4899
ez cruise this to victoryy
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February 01 2016 00:00 GMT
#4901
On February 01 2016 08:59 Rels wrote:
GG town
I have no idea who is the last scum though sry.


Also real? GB maybe confirmed scum then?
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February 01 2016 00:02 GMT
#4908
Honestly for me the reason was him bringing up all kinds of logic all of a sudden when he's getting lynched while he could've been bringing that shit up all day.
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#4911
On February 01 2016 09:02 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 09:00 Superbia wrote:
On February 01 2016 08:59 Rels wrote:
GG town
I have no idea who is the last scum though sry.


Also real? GB maybe confirmed scum then?


yes altho why didnt he just say itmore directly? could be wifmo really town deserves easy win and he knows it!


Idk. Could just be wifom in retrospect. I'm going to assume worst case scenario?
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#4917
On February 01 2016 09:06 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 09:03 Superbia wrote:
On February 01 2016 09:02 sicklucker wrote:
On February 01 2016 09:00 Superbia wrote:
On February 01 2016 08:59 Rels wrote:
GG town
I have no idea who is the last scum though sry.


Also real? GB maybe confirmed scum then?


yes altho why didnt he just say itmore directly? could be wifmo really town deserves easy win and he knows it!


Idk. Could just be wifom in retrospect. I'm going to assume worst case scenario?


well yes we play for worst case scenario because if its best case scenario the game is over and shining will concede


It's still possible it's 4v1v1... We'll see tonight. x:
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February 01 2016 00:12 GMT
#4922
NO DISCUSSING AUTO UNTIL TOMORROW

You can see what happens at flips and then go from there tomorrow.
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February 01 2016 00:13 GMT
#4924
I'll be leaving a legacy and how I believe the game can be solved right before EoN. Palmar should do the same.
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February 01 2016 00:14 GMT
#4925
Also sicklucker should do the same.
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February 01 2016 00:16 GMT
#4927
I'm going to be off for now.

Good shit. :D
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February 01 2016 00:17 GMT
#4931
Yes. At EoN. I'll be shooting between copcake and TT.
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February 01 2016 00:18 GMT
#4932
All right. Time to head towards bed. Let's lynch scum for the last day in a row tomorrow hopefully. :D (Or with a bit of luck I may be able to end the game tonight).
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February 01 2016 12:14 GMT
#4965
Please no more discussion until EoN.

Post everything you have at EoN.
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February 01 2016 22:51 GMT
#4972
On February 02 2016 06:36 Tictock wrote:
Btw, I get not sharing reads makes it harder for scum to decide who they should shoot, but I really don't see a reason for total silence.

Not like it matters at this point with ~ an hour to go.


There's a good reason. Trust me.
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February 01 2016 22:53 GMT
#4973
Does resolution start in 5m or 1h5m?
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February 01 2016 22:54 GMT
#4974
Does resolution start in 5m or 1h5m?
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#4978
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February 01 2016 23:12 GMT
#4981
GG boys GG. Game = auto.
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February 01 2016 23:13 GMT
#4982
Can mafia choose to no-shoot?
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February 01 2016 23:14 GMT
#4984
Honestly it doesn't really matter that much. The reason I didn't want anyone to talk is because palmar was discussing our number of lynches and others were as well. I was hoping mafia would fuck up and they did.

Me being alive gives us a 2nd lynch.

We lynch today and I get a shot if we miss.
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February 01 2016 23:16 GMT
#4985
On February 02 2016 08:13 Superbia wrote:
Can mafia choose to no-shoot?

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February 01 2016 23:19 GMT
#4987
On February 02 2016 08:17 sicklucker wrote:
Whats the playerlist?

Sicklucker
Super
TT
shining

was there one or two kp super?


During the night? I shot copcake. There was 1kp or mafia stacked.
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February 01 2016 23:20 GMT
#4989
On February 02 2016 08:19 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:11 Half the Sky wrote:


[center]Copcake, as the Shovel Knight, was nightkilled!

Palmar, as the Arrow, was nightkilled!

The body of GlowingBear, as Kenpachi, was exhumed from the grave, an innocent man.


Nailed this so far. Interesting Palmar got shot though.

##Vote: Superbia

Just to check things though Shining can verify that you took an RB? Lynch has to be between you and Super today.

I think my associations have merit and 100% one team was Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake.

So who was mafia with FF/Vivax/Onegu?

My money is on Super.


:D I think you may have fucked up. I think you stacked on palmar with copcake on accident.
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February 01 2016 23:21 GMT
#4990
Also mods told me Mafia can choose to no-shoot.
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February 01 2016 23:21 GMT
#4992
Either that or the shining is mafia and you're literally dumb enough to make a huge pre-flip post assuming your roleblock on the shining had no merits.
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February 01 2016 23:24 GMT
#4997
On February 02 2016 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:17 sicklucker wrote:
Whats the playerlist?

Sicklucker
Super
TT
shining

was there one or two kp super?


During the night? I shot copcake. There was 1kp or mafia stacked.


ok so we have auto with 1 lynch. both me and tt were roleblocked so we cant be on copcakes team. because copcake was laso roleblocked on the same night.

So we lynch shining if hes town your mafia but i doubt it.

GG

##shining


Honestly this doesn't matter because disfo and rels are probably on different teams. They both were probably the KP carriers on the night before previous night.
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February 01 2016 23:25 GMT
#4999
On February 02 2016 08:23 Tictock wrote:
Doesn't make me wrong though


You're either scum or pretty wrong. :p I'll take a look at your big post later though.
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February 01 2016 23:29 GMT
#5001
Really though, some solid OOG advice, don't look for "he would've conceded by now, right?". This is going to fuck you over.
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Superbia
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February 01 2016 23:29 GMT
#5002
For me the game is really really fucking easy though. I just have to ensure that SL is 101% town.
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Superbia
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February 01 2016 23:29 GMT
#5003
So, you know, get rekt. :D
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February 01 2016 23:30 GMT
#5005
No, mafia can no-shoot.
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February 01 2016 23:32 GMT
#5007
Alternatively it could've been 4v2 yesterday.
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February 01 2016 23:34 GMT
#5009
On February 02 2016 08:32 sicklucker wrote:
acualy were just killing them both anyway super because you have a gun (if we dont kill you)

im pretty sure its just shining but if im sure its not you i dont care the order.( but it should be shininng to end the game)


This end-game for me is going to exist of me reading your filter approximately 8 times and shouting at people saying I'm mafia. Something like that.
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February 01 2016 23:35 GMT
#5011
On February 02 2016 08:32 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:30 Superbia wrote:
No, mafia can no-shoot.


Then I'm like 99% sure you are the last mafia.


Bring it. :D
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February 01 2016 23:37 GMT
#5012
Mafia also never no-shoots because they can't be sure of the shining's alignment. They're literally ALWAYS giving town another lynch if the shining is mafia.
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February 01 2016 23:38 GMT
#5013
Right? Unless it's a world of 2 mafia together. In which case it literally doesn't matter.
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February 01 2016 23:41 GMT
#5015
Right. The town between you two will need to realize that the only way we have a chance to lose this game is if we sleep or lynch me. But whatever, we'll get there tomorrow.
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February 01 2016 23:41 GMT
#5016
Also you can kindly explain why TT is town and vice-versa for the other.
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February 01 2016 23:44 GMT
#5019
On February 02 2016 08:42 The Shining wrote:
Super no shooting makes sense too if he has kp anyway. Use his kp, no shoot, push me as the missing kp because he knew I was being rbd


Except that if you are scum I literally give town another lynch for no reason. (5v2 -> 4v2/4v1, very likely 4v1) Oh yeah, and I also get rid of the big question mark in the progress (and very, very likely reduce the scum count to 1). Yeah, no.
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February 01 2016 23:46 GMT
#5020
On February 02 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:41 Superbia wrote:
Right. The town between you two will need to realize that the only way we have a chance to lose this game is if we sleep or lynch me. But whatever, we'll get there tomorrow.


There is 1 scum left. If we sleep, there would be 1 NK if you don't shoot and 3 left tomorrow with 1 scum. How is that a loss?


No. If we sleep I literally die because I'm confirmed town tomorrow (due to the fact that the game is not over). AND we lose a lynch (I can't shoot anymore). Best case scenario is that scum does not realize this (derp, but kind of likely since they didn't realize the extra lynch), SL dies (likely), and my shot means that we get a shot at a draw.
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February 01 2016 23:47 GMT
#5021
If we misslynch.
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February 01 2016 23:49 GMT
#5023
So instead of doing stupid shit, we're lynching one of you two today (probably) and I will shoot the other one if the game does not end. Unless one of you can come up with a really good reason/case as to why SL is mafia (hint, this is the correct way to go at this point mafia). But I'll probably ride or die with SL anyway for an endless number of reasons.
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February 01 2016 23:51 GMT
#5026
On February 02 2016 08:48 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:32 Superbia wrote:
Alternatively it could've been 4v2 yesterday.


it was because there was 1kp. we know cake didnt deliver the kp so it had to be you or shininng because you were not roleblocked. you following?


Incorrect SL. Disfo/Rels could've been carrying KP respectively.

Remember when I pointed out the list of me/palmar/rels/the shining/tictock (though tictock incorrectly)? There was at least 1 in there because disfo could've been (and was very very likely) carrying KP.
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February 01 2016 23:52 GMT
#5029
On February 02 2016 08:51 sicklucker wrote:
wait if we mislynch here ill be the last man standing. that would be epic


It'd be you or me. :p Though probably you.
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February 01 2016 23:53 GMT
#5031
On February 02 2016 08:52 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:51 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:48 sicklucker wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:32 Superbia wrote:
Alternatively it could've been 4v2 yesterday.


it was because there was 1kp. we know cake didnt deliver the kp so it had to be you or shininng because you were not roleblocked. you following?


Incorrect SL. Disfo/Rels could've been carrying KP respectively.

Remember when I pointed out the list of me/palmar/rels/the shining/tictock (though tictock incorrectly)? There was at least 1 in there because disfo could've been (and was very very likely) carrying KP.


im talking about the night before tho


The night that just resolved?

My KP does not stop KP. Copcake was not roleblocked. She could've delivered KP (hint: she likely did).
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February 01 2016 23:54 GMT
#5032
On February 02 2016 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
like im not talking about tonight im talking about the night before.

All me/tt/copcake were aparently roleblocked so me and tt cant be a team with copcake. Its probably confirmed shining (if we can confirm the roleblocks)


Yes. But disfo and rels very very likely carried the KP (respectively) that night.

Rels was not a roleblock target.
Disfo was getting shot by me.
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February 01 2016 23:57 GMT
#5035
Why is it not TT, the shining?
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February 01 2016 23:58 GMT
#5037
On February 02 2016 08:56 sicklucker wrote:
no rels/disinfo were a team its very obvious


Why? I don't feel that way at all.
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February 02 2016 00:00 GMT
#5041
On February 02 2016 08:59 sicklucker wrote:
They had to have been because everyone else was roleblocked??? am i in the wrong here? this seems like a simple concept to me


There was 2kp that night. It was very likely they were in opposite mafia groups both delivering KP.
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February 02 2016 00:01 GMT
#5042
Wait SL do you just mean they're both just mafia instead of "they're both on different mafia teams"?
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February 02 2016 00:02 GMT
#5043
On February 02 2016 09:00 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:57 Superbia wrote:
Why is it not TT, the shining?


The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum.

If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon.


You do realize there is like 48 hours left before this game ends for all kinds of feelings to change.

Oh and not to mention that the only way for mafia to win is to either miss-lynch me or SL or sleep.
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February 02 2016 00:03 GMT
#5044
I'm gonna play voice soon. Done for now.
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February 02 2016 00:05 GMT
#5046
On February 02 2016 09:04 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 09:02 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 09:00 The Shining wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:57 Superbia wrote:
Why is it not TT, the shining?


The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum.

If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon.


You do realize there is like 48 hours left before this game ends for all kinds of feelings to change.

Oh and not to mention that the only way for mafia to win is to either miss-lynch me or SL or sleep.


A mislynch on anyone loses the game, I just proved that. And sleeping only loses us the game if you're scum. So yeah.


Nooo.

Miss-lynching gives us 2v1 going into the night. Then I can shoot. If I miss we lose. If I hit we win because we have 1 remaining.
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February 02 2016 00:36 GMT
#5048
On February 02 2016 09:28 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 09:02 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 09:00 The Shining wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:57 Superbia wrote:
Why is it not TT, the shining?


The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum.

If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon.


You do realize there is like 48 hours left before this game ends for all kinds of feelings to change.

Oh and not to mention that the only way for mafia to win is to either miss-lynch me or SL or sleep.


There is a lot of stuff comeing from you that doesn't add up, this post especially.

Why is SL or you the only options for Mafia? Who do you even think is mafia right now?

You are pushing this option to sleep, which is terribad if you are scum kus you just KP and Shoot and win.

It's really not making sense to me how you are looking at this game right now if you are town.


Jesus christ re-read my posts if you're town please.
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February 02 2016 00:39 GMT
#5049
1. Because if SL (and myself) are town I can literally kill you both. 1- lynch, 2-cpr.
2. I have specifically said that WE NEVER SLEEP HERE.
3. I literally do not really give a shit which of you two are mafia because I can shoot the other if we miss. I just have to ensure SL is town but I'm pretty sure.
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February 02 2016 00:59 GMT
#5052
Inet died phone posting. Tempted to just lynch tt for that post tbh. Get fucked if you're mafia son.

Sl: kp on copcake disfo.
Hard vote on vivax. Stayed on onegu after he proposed to use his power for our benefit. Stayed on rels after palmar proposed going on the shining (would have had every reason to switch). Voted on ff but he was red check.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 00:59 GMT
#5053
Fucking no voice mafia z.
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February 02 2016 01:01 GMT
#5055
It's also no "contingency plan". It's literally auto.
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February 02 2016 01:02 GMT
#5056
Internet back. Time2voice. :D
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February 02 2016 01:31 GMT
#5061
It's majority SL. If we tie we're going to sleep.
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February 02 2016 01:31 GMT
#5062
And town will have thrown away auto.
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February 02 2016 01:34 GMT
#5063
Will evaluate more tomorrow, but will leave my vote for now. Will need one of your votes to actually win this game.
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February 02 2016 01:35 GMT
#5064
We can still win without, but let's not go to fucking sleep pls.
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February 02 2016 01:40 GMT
#5069
On February 02 2016 10:35 sicklucker wrote:
Night 3 4 mafia left

Rels Dis copcake /one of you

Roleblocked
Me
TT
Copcake confirmed by house

Copcake had to be with rels or disinfo because she was rolleblocked. So the copcake team is dead now.

This probably means rels and disinfo were not a team. unless it was 3v1 since copcake had to be with one of them.

This is very interesting acualy.

So that means one of you were with rels or disinfo. SO roleblocks dont acualy matter your right.

But we do have confirmation that the last mafia was not with copcake. SO maybe we can get a lead on that


No. =/ mafia team of 2 is still possible because last night could've been a reduction of KP.
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February 02 2016 01:42 GMT
#5072
On February 02 2016 10:40 Tictock wrote:
Your play isn't auto, it's a coinflip if you are town.

And rather than try and scumhunt today you just want us to do that.

3v1 Now
2v1 ML
Scum KP -> Win*

*50/50 Chance Super (if town) shoots correctly and is Last man standing.

Joke of an Endgame.

Especially when you consider Super had to be told to shoot Dis over me and I totally take credit for showing that Cake was gunna flip mafia and had to be Super's shot last night.

Also remember he was scumreading me pretty hard last phase, even said he might shot me still. Where has that read gone?

Cake flipped Scum, so now Super knows he's the last one, that's where.


For me it's auto. I also ALWAYS decide my own shots. If you were still my primary mafia read that day I would've shot you.
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February 02 2016 01:45 GMT
#5075
On February 02 2016 10:41 sicklucker wrote:
but if supers mafia he can only be mafia with rels. because he killed both cop/dis and I confirmed that the mafia still alive is not with copcake. i may as well start with seeing if that makes anysense


Yes. And if I was mafia with rels I always jump on palmar's proposed switch to the shining because I have a super high chance of getting killed in the night by the other mafia. So I would keep rels around to save me.

ALSO: I was literally the person who came up with the logic that there is always a mafia between palmar, rels, myself, and the shining. And I excluded palmar from that list. To be fair I wanted to go on the shining but there is no way I put pressure on both myself and rels in that situation.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 01:47 GMT
#5078
So if I'm with rels I'm literally BUSSING MY WIN CONDITION. And I WOULD HAVE TO BE WITH RELS because I SHOT BOTH COPCAKE AND DISFORMATION.

Boom.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 01:48 GMT
#5081
On February 02 2016 10:46 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:14 Superbia wrote:
Honestly it doesn't really matter that much. The reason I didn't want anyone to talk is because palmar was discussing our number of lynches and others were as well. I was hoping mafia would fuck up and they did.

Me being alive gives us a 2nd lynch.

We lynch today and I get a shot if we miss.


wait why did you live over palmar? does this make anysense? we have no roleblockers or trackers left.

wait there should have been 2kp last night if what I said was true earlier because copcakes team should be dead since she was roleblock. fuck im doing something wrong


I have no fucking idea why I lived over palmar. Yes, there should've been 2 kp last night. The shining took TT's roleblock so:
- There's a team of 2 (copcake +1).
- The shining couldn't deliver KP.
- Mafia stacked on Palmar.

One of these is true.
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February 02 2016 01:52 GMT
#5084
On February 02 2016 10:48 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 10:45 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 10:41 sicklucker wrote:
but if supers mafia he can only be mafia with rels. because he killed both cop/dis and I confirmed that the mafia still alive is not with copcake. i may as well start with seeing if that makes anysense


Yes. And if I was mafia with rels I always jump on palmar's proposed switch to the shining because I have a super high chance of getting killed in the night by the other mafia. So I would keep rels around to save me.

ALSO: I was literally the person who came up with the logic that there is always a mafia between palmar, rels, myself, and the shining. And I excluded palmar from that list. To be fair I wanted to go on the shining but there is no way I put pressure on both myself and rels in that situation.


Pretty sure that was Palmar tbh, but w.e

So this means you think TS is the last scum?


Nope nope nope. Palmar literally asked me in the thread why this logic was true and I explained it.

Also still not sure on the last scum. Tbf when you posted your EoN night I was super skeptical and expecting 2 kp because you were going on me pre-flip, which I thought may mean that you were expecting there to be 2kp (bc you control KP) in the night which in turn exonerates The Shining partially. The fact that you still have not evaluated the singular KP at all makes me super suspicious. Also your push on me is supershit. I expect town to be paranoid but you're only paranoid towards me.
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February 02 2016 01:53 GMT
#5088
On February 02 2016 10:50 sicklucker wrote:
Vivax/FF/Onegu/Super does make some sense. Its the only combination super can be mafia in so I will give it some thought but its still one combination. I just dont see why mafia wouldnt kill super...

I sapose shining as mafia would give no fuck. Ticktock maybe we just lynch super today and shining tomorrow. hum I kinda almost believe ticktock is more likely town... almost...

In any scenerio shining needs to die


Yeah I fucked up on FF. I had a town-lean on Onegu early on d1 when he posted the middlefinger. Also was kind of sheeping koshi (on onegu) until he started calling you mafia.
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February 02 2016 01:55 GMT
#5089
On February 02 2016 10:52 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 10:48 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 10:46 sicklucker wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:14 Superbia wrote:
Honestly it doesn't really matter that much. The reason I didn't want anyone to talk is because palmar was discussing our number of lynches and others were as well. I was hoping mafia would fuck up and they did.

Me being alive gives us a 2nd lynch.

We lynch today and I get a shot if we miss.


wait why did you live over palmar? does this make anysense? we have no roleblockers or trackers left.

wait there should have been 2kp last night if what I said was true earlier because copcakes team should be dead since she was roleblock. fuck im doing something wrong


I have no fucking idea why I lived over palmar. Yes, there should've been 2 kp last night. The shining took TT's roleblock so:
- There's a team of 2 (copcake +1).
- The shining couldn't deliver KP.
- Mafia stacked on Palmar.

One of these is true.


*Cough*

Or mafia No shot

Kus that's important, we even talked about that one. Remember Super?


Yes. And I said before that if a mafia no shot it's a super shit play. Which I explained with logic because it literally gives town an extra lynch. So you trade a lynch for the shining. Which means you're effectively killing the shining during the night.

Great mafia play.
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February 02 2016 01:55 GMT
#5090
I'm going to sleep soon.
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February 02 2016 01:57 GMT
#5093
Like TT, I cannot believe you are this resilient to my fucking logic bombs as town.

I am quite literally dropping massive logic nukes and I have been all game.
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February 02 2016 02:03 GMT
#5096
Can someone just reanimate palmar please.
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February 02 2016 02:04 GMT
#5099
On February 02 2016 11:03 sicklucker wrote:
IF theres no mafia kp tonight shinings town. We can verify this through vote action.
So i think from my pov I have to kill one of you... as much as it sucks your both playing really well


You can choose to take the roleblock or have no vote tomorrow (guess which one mafia would pick in mylo).
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February 02 2016 02:14 GMT
#5114
On February 02 2016 11:08 sicklucker wrote:
super when you say we have auto your right. but you dont take into account the shining roleblock at all. I think your poe should be to lynch tt today and then one of me or shining based on his action. but all you care about is getting your shot off..

to like win the game as mafia?


HE DOESNT HAVE TO TAKE THE RB. HE CAN CHOOSE. READ THE ROLE.
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February 02 2016 02:15 GMT
#5115
On February 02 2016 11:08 The Shining wrote:
TTs ability is also 2 shot. Damdred me. He can't do it again.

I also already explained why scumSuper would no shoot last night as well. Knows I'm rb. Has 2 kp so only uses one, puts the missing one blame on me.


IF IM MAFIA I DONT NO-SHOOT. ITS FUCKING HORRIBLE BECAUSE IF YOURE THE OTHER MAFIA TOWN GAINS ANOTHER LYNCH.
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February 02 2016 02:26 GMT
#5122
I'm going to sleep. I was making a post to prove your point wrong SL, but I really can't be bothered at this time in the night anymore. My logic is actually deteriorating as I post. I'm not sure if this is 100% correct anymore, I'm pretty sure it is though.

Basically it boils down to us having to sleep with me putting a KP on the shining if there's 1 kp (my cpr) during last night. Which would be super bad for mafia (especially if it's me, due to the fact that I have to to survive mafia kp that night as well) because town gets a free the shining lynch.

So mafia would have to take a huge risk during the night no-shooting.
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February 02 2016 02:28 GMT
#5124
On February 02 2016 11:25 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:15 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:08 The Shining wrote:
TTs ability is also 2 shot. Damdred me. He can't do it again.

I also already explained why scumSuper would no shoot last night as well. Knows I'm rb. Has 2 kp so only uses one, puts the missing one blame on me.


IF IM MAFIA I DONT NO-SHOOT. ITS FUCKING HORRIBLE BECAUSE IF YOURE THE OTHER MAFIA TOWN GAINS ANOTHER LYNCH.


NOT IF YOU'RE BANKING ON COP BEING THE OTHER MAFIA. I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO


Yes but I wouldn't. I'm really tired of this. I'm a super logical player. If I am mafia I'm not going all-in on 1 fact.
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February 02 2016 02:29 GMT
#5127
On February 02 2016 11:24 sicklucker wrote:
If im understanding the situation correctly. IF you both vote super I have no choice to vote him anyway. Because if we mislynch we lose, and if we sleep super wins


No.
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February 02 2016 02:30 GMT
#5128
On February 02 2016 11:28 sicklucker wrote:
no if i side with super I can sleep but we only get one lynch instead of two. but super still gets lynched so ill have two lynches still. This is probably the safe path is it the one i will choose...


You don't have two lynches if you lynch me. You will lose the game. We only have two lynches because I have a shot.
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February 02 2016 02:32 GMT
#5129
I'm out.
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February 02 2016 11:49 GMT
#5144
Tictock are you around for a few hours?
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February 02 2016 11:55 GMT
#5146
All right. Give me 15m to eat some lunch.
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February 02 2016 12:26 GMT
#5147
Okay. You understand that for me the optimal way to go about this day is find 1 town instead of the mafia, right? (if I'm town)
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February 02 2016 12:27 GMT
#5148
This is pretty important to understand and I have a feeling people are either not understanding this or ignoring it.
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February 02 2016 12:37 GMT
#5150
On February 02 2016 21:33 Tictock wrote:
Probably didn't fully think about it until today, but yea.

Show nested quote +
CPR Doctor (Pick your Power 3)

BE CAREFUL WITH THAT THING! If the person you are protecting gets attacked then you save them as normal. However if they aren't attacked that night you end up killing them. You can not target yourself at night.

”Shock advised. Charging. Do not touch the Victim” - Automated External Defibrillator (AED)


If town this role means you should have 50/50 shot at a save or townkill tonight. -1 Town from current pool


All right, good.
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February 02 2016 12:37 GMT
#5151
Can you tell me why you think disfo and rels were on the same team?
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 12:39 GMT
#5152
Also I don't have a chance to save during the night because mafia always puts the shot on me. I just have a chance to find another mafia. Hence from my POV town has two chance and I just have to find another town and it's auto from there.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 13:03 GMT
#5153
On February 02 2016 21:37 Superbia wrote:
Can you tell me why you think disfo and rels were on the same team?

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February 02 2016 13:19 GMT
#5157
On February 02 2016 22:17 sicklucker wrote:
Ticktock it could be super. but I think you have to be rational here. Like super can only be mafia with that combinations of players basically and he had to been incorrectly read by everyone who played in this game. If the mafia teams different hes town. While your theory makes sense that does not make it the truth and it might even be very very unlikely.

Tbh I know how to read mafia super really well from experience of losing to him so ill give his filter a good one over


Yes. Kindly do this.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 13:40 GMT
#5163
Honestly I feel like I've been supertownie even without the whole dreamflower thing.

There's a good reason Palmar hard read me town while he has been able to scum-read me halfway through d1 in the past. Look at my past games.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 13:55 GMT
#5169
On February 02 2016 22:51 sicklucker wrote:
super how were you roleblocked when you shoot ticktock again


GB.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 13:55 GMT
#5170
On February 02 2016 22:53 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 08:58 Superbia wrote:
Look at ticktock's read progression on disformation btw. It's pretty funny.


do you remember this? I believe rels and copcake to be a team. this leaves disinfo as a partner to the last mafia...

Super your really shitting the bed here. We have to assume we have one lynch left not two


?
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 13:56 GMT
#5171
I'm "shitting the bed"? x:
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 13:56 GMT
#5172
I was following your logic until that last sentence.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 13:59 GMT
#5175
On February 02 2016 22:58 sicklucker wrote:
You literraly have put zero effort into helping me figure out which one of them is the last mafia. Your like oh haha lets kill both. Well we can only kill one because we are probably sleeping


My best play is to convince the town between them to stop being an idiot.

I'm going to talk to both of them when they get back, but I think TT went to bed.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 14:01 GMT
#5178
And through conversation I will probably figure out who the mafia is. Decently sure it's the shining because TT seems to be convinced of what he's saying. Though what he's saying is dumb, so I need him to explain his thought process behind it.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 14:02 GMT
#5180
On February 02 2016 23:01 sicklucker wrote:
Like do you shoot? do you hold it? you need a plan b


We'll go into the night with me confirmed town and we can discuss my shot. I'll likely shoot because I have 0 confidence in the town to make the right decision tbh.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 14:03 GMT
#5181
On February 02 2016 23:01 sicklucker wrote:
I sapose you never hold it because then it will be lylo with you / shining /tt and were at square one


Nah incorrect. Mafia has to shoot me because I'll be confirmed because the game is not over.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 14:03 GMT
#5182
On February 02 2016 23:03 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 23:01 sicklucker wrote:
I sapose you never hold it because then it will be lylo with you / shining /tt and were at square one


Nah incorrect. Mafia has to shoot me because I'll be confirmed because the game is not over.


So it'd be you/shining/tt
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 14:05 GMT
#5183
Back to work, I'll be half-lurking.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 20:13 GMT
#5196
The Shining/Tictock, please post.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 21:32 GMT
#5199
Tictock why do you think Rels and disfo were on the same team?
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 21:32 GMT
#5201
Also it literally boggles my mind that you're defending someone in MYLO.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 21:32 GMT
#5202
That is so un-towny.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 21:35 GMT
#5205
Right. I want to talk to you and the shining both.

Just tell me the piece of logic as to why Rels and disfo are both town.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 21:37 GMT
#5207
The fact that you are not suspicious of anyone but me is mindboggling. I simply cannot believe you're town if you're hard defending question marks in mylo for the only reason that you have a scum-read on me. Mylo town-set doesn't work like that.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 21:38 GMT
#5208
On February 03 2016 06:36 Tictock wrote:
Why the flower is it untowny anyways?

If I was scum I'd just jump on TS with you guys and ride the win.

Besides you have basically told me that you don't care kus you can shoot into the people you aren't convinced are town right now right?

Which from my PoV means you want me to lynch TS so you can shoot me tonight...


Nope, this is just complete WIFOM.

At the moment I want to lynch you and then see if I need to shoot TS.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 21:40 GMT
#5209
There is no possible scenario in which you are town. Town is never this convinced in mylo. You've put up a charade of "hmm maybe I should take a look at SL" but it's just a facade. If you were town you would be looking at everybody.

You came in today with a plan. Your post before the night reflected this. The fact that Palmar died over me in the night reflected this.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 21:44 GMT
#5211
On February 03 2016 06:42 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 06:37 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are not suspicious of anyone but me is mindboggling. I simply cannot believe you're town if you're hard defending question marks in mylo for the only reason that you have a scum-read on me. Mylo town-set doesn't work like that.


And I'm supposed to believe that you are town because your role gives you a chance at shooting scum?

I'm supposed to be ok with your super flippant TR on SL and that all the shit I've done today only makes you think I'm scum? Yet you prefer to lynch TS still for ... what reasons now exactly?


I prefer to lynch you. I'm pretty convinced.

Explain how my TR on SL is flippant. Explain what you've done today that's townie? You haven't evaluated anything, all you've done is dug your tunnel deeper.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 21:58 GMT
#5213
On February 02 2016 17:53 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:26 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to sleep. I was making a post to prove your point wrong SL, but I really can't be bothered at this time in the night anymore. My logic is actually deteriorating as I post. I'm not sure if this is 100% correct anymore, I'm pretty sure it is though.

Basically it boils down to us having to sleep with me putting a KP on the shining if there's 1 kp (my cpr) during last night. Which would be super bad for mafia (especially if it's me, due to the fact that I have to to survive mafia kp that night as well) because town gets a free the shining lynch.

So mafia would have to take a huge risk during the night no-shooting.


Lets just assume I'm right for a second and look at last night if Super and Cake are mafia from differen't teams.

In this case Mafia has 3 KP when it is 4v2. Super with 2 KP and Cake with one.

Cake knows it's 50/50 chnace that she gets shot by Super over me (actually after my post on Cake last night it should have been fairly obviuse Cake was the only correct shot) but knows it's prob over, she likely decided to put KP out there. Which actually in this case it seems like Cake would have shot Super over Palmar. So either Cake decided Palmar was worth the longshot or she didn't bother to submit KP.

Super as mafia would def be trying his best to hit the remianing mafia. I think Cake is aruably the only real shot he can make so thats kinda locked in. Now in the off chance Cake is not mafia Super would prob not hold his KP just to make sure he hit the other mafia team, unless Super was almost positive that Cake is mafia. Then Super can either take out another town or, and here is where it gets interesting, hold his shot. Why hold his shot here? Well he knows Cake will be be shooting almost 100% of the time and unless she hits him both of them shooting, and a total of 3 KP going out, means it's final 3 today. So yes, Super holding his shot in that situation is benifitial due to 1) keeping one extra person in lylo to discuss 2) promoting WIFOM that either Cake was with the final mafia or that TS took the RB and lost a shot.

I'm rather sold this is the world due to the fact that I strongly feel that one team was Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake which means the final mafia is from team Vivax/Onegu/FF, which Super fits into rather nicely.




Now lets look at if I'm wrong and the teams are something like Rels/Dis/Kita/Vivax vs Onegu/Cake/FF/???

In this world there was only one mafia KP last night and they picked Palmar to kill even though Super said he was shooting Cake or me. In this case why does scum not Kill Super with no saves left on the table?

Also in this world, from Super's point of view, final mafia has to be me right?

TS was RB'd and Super seem pretty convinced that SL is town, so in this world to Super I am 100% mafia here, or he doesn't think Shining actually took the RB.

But even though Super is argueing that this is the world we live in he is not reaching this conclusion. He thinks TS or I are mafia but doesn't really care who kus he "has auto"

if he were town living in this world he should be wanting to verify that TS got RB'd, and then it should be easy for him to conclude that I must be scum with Cake.




So the conclusion here is that either Super is mafia or if he is town I should be basically confirmed mafia to him.

Thus I think we have to lynch either Super or myself today.

+ Show Spoiler +
Tried to put this down in words before and I didn't think it made any sense.

Hopefully after some sleep I was able to be coherent.


This post is so obviously bad. The entire premise is that I'm already mafia. Like it doesn't try to prove or analyze anything. The entire first part is literally "Those night actions could've happened if super was scum!".

Guess what you flower, those night actions could've happened if ANYONE was scum.

Not only that, it makes such gross assumptions that it's entirely irrelevant. If I'm mafia I'm expecting cake to be mafia and to shoot? Oh wait, what if GB is the mafia and I'm the only one left? Oh wait, what if cake holds her shot? Oh wait, what if someone else is mafia? Literally TUNNELVISION (Town does not tunnel vision in MYLO).

Let's explore the "non-superbia" world you paint. Somehow the premise completely changes. There's only 1 kp? You have to be mafia? Like why are you not looking at a world where copcake shot palmar and TS RB made it so there was only 1 KP? What if TS was on a team with copcake and copcake delivered the KP? What if SL was the mafia and held his shot? Nope. None of these worlds TT is evaluating. Why? Because TT is not town and TT came in today with a plan.

There is an absolutely obvious trend in all of your logic, TT. It's the fact that every single piece of logic hinges on the fact that I am already mafia. Tictock is not looking at the facts and evaluating. He's looking at a world of me already being mafia and stringing the pieces together from there.
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:59 GMT
#5214
On February 03 2016 06:50 Tictock wrote:
So fucking lynch me, this day is becoming a headache for me.

Nobody can give me reasons why TS is mafia, Nobody cares to explain their Townreads. You are calling me scum for backing up my read on TS.

TS at least gave a decent reason why he TRs me and is willing to sheep, but has otherwise not really done much today and is just letting his vote hang out there.


Read my post just now and respond.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:00 GMT
#5216
SL I'm pretty convinced it's TT. Check out my posts on him.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:00 GMT
#5217
His mindset today is absolutely un-townie.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:02 GMT
#5219
Also the end "I think we have to lynch me or Superbia today" sounds townie, but it's the absolute opposite.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:04 GMT
#5222
On February 03 2016 07:03 Tictock wrote:
Nah, lynch me. Lets get this over with so I can see if I'm right or being a dumb.


Incorrect answer as town.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:05 GMT
#5223
Explain your townread on the shining in 3 sentences. Why does he get a pass today? Why do you feel confident enough to defend him in MYLO?
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:08 GMT
#5226
On February 03 2016 07:07 sicklucker wrote:
Hes very right tho. shining has not earned this ride or die scenario your goiving him. The thing is super in are first game together we had auto but he still wanted to lynch me over a confirmed mafia and thats why I ragged quit and got banned lol


TT?
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:09 GMT
#5228
Can you link game?
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:11 GMT
#5231
Tyty.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:11 GMT
#5232
That game was more than half a year ago though...
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:16 GMT
#5234
Reading game filter. Did he flip his read at some point just to go back to it later?
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:16 GMT
#5235
Actually need to brb rq. Be back in 15 or so.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:40 GMT
#5253
Back and no. We need to always lynch here because my shot buys us second lynch. Sleeping = losing a lynch. Especially if you think I'm town you never sleep here.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:41 GMT
#5254
TT I have literally no idea what you're doing tbh.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:42 GMT
#5255
On February 03 2016 07:22 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 09:18 The Shining wrote:
Wait no I will still have a vote tomorrow bcuz I choose RB. Nvm


meh


Forgot about this.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:44 GMT
#5257
On February 03 2016 07:43 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 07:40 Superbia wrote:
Back and no. We need to always lynch here because my shot buys us second lynch. Sleeping = losing a lynch. Especially if you think I'm town you never sleep here.


no your wrong. even if we lose a lynch shining is confirmed town or mafia so we dont acualy lose a lynch...


Dude why?
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:44 GMT
#5258
Explain pls.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:45 GMT
#5260
On February 03 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote:
Like we sleep and you dont shoot thats the best play here for me and you. ITs acualy the same as you shooting one and we lynch the other tho. But its better for you because if im mafia you will know it in final 3 because shining will be confirmed to you.


I'm not following you at all here dude. x:
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:46 GMT
#5262
On February 03 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote:
Like we sleep and you dont shoot thats the best play here for me and you. ITs acualy the same as you shooting one and we lynch the other tho. But its better for you because if im mafia you will know it in final 3 because shining will be confirmed to you.


I'm not following you at all here dude. x:


Wait. You mean applying ban on The Shining and sleeping?
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:47 GMT
#5263
There's 2 things wrong with that logic:

1. Mafia can just no shoot.
2. We cannot "no-lynch". And we only have 3 votes. So we have to lynch today.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:47 GMT
#5265
Like it's a good idea, but it doesn't work out.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:48 GMT
#5268
On February 03 2016 07:47 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 07:47 Superbia wrote:
There's 2 things wrong with that logic:

1. Mafia can just no shoot.
2. We cannot "no-lynch". And we only have 3 votes. So we have to lynch today.


if they no shoot we still see if supers vote counted and we will know his alignment


Or you know, he just accepts the roleblock and we're back in this exact scenario.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:49 GMT
#5269
Because if he is mafia then he accepts the roleblock and we don't get KP, and if he isn't mafia then the other mafia holds their shot.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:51 GMT
#5271
On February 03 2016 07:50 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 07:48 Superbia wrote:
On February 03 2016 07:47 sicklucker wrote:
On February 03 2016 07:47 Superbia wrote:
There's 2 things wrong with that logic:

1. Mafia can just no shoot.
2. We cannot "no-lynch". And we only have 3 votes. So we have to lynch today.


if they no shoot we still see if supers vote counted and we will know his alignment


Or you know, he just accepts the roleblock and we're back in this exact scenario.


Mafia wouldnt acept it because he cant really win if hes does... BUt maybe he ddint expect copcake to flip idk.

Anyway I think im done trying. Your never mafia here. Lets force the tie and shinings vote probably wont count and you can kill them both. Like im so sure your town fuck it. If theres no more angels to push we just force the tie


Nono. The only way we tie is if we vote on each other each vote each. And I'm not giving TT the option to push someone over at EoD. Not in a million years.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:52 GMT
#5272
How the fuck did I fuck up that sentence so badly lol.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:53 GMT
#5274
We're never tieing dude. We'll literally give TT the free win if he's mafia.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:53 GMT
#5276
On February 03 2016 07:53 sicklucker wrote:
Someone told me that if we tie 2-2 we go to sleep? isint it usualy first to reach two which is why i told you shining? ill read the rules


No. Majority is required. And the shining doesn't have a vote today so it's 3 votes total.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:55 GMT
#5279
On February 03 2016 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
This Game is Majority lynch. This means that in order for a player to be lynched, a majority of players in the game must be voting for that player. Majority is calculated by # Players alive in the game divided by 2 plus 1. If majority is not reached at the deadline, there will be a no-lynch.

So how does tying the game give ticktock the win?


The only way we tie (because we have 3 votes) is for example:
I vote: tictock
you vote: the shining
tictock vote: me

So if tictock is mafia he just changes his vote to the shining at last minute and wins.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:56 GMT
#5281
Oh wait, the shining does have a vote if he took the RB. What the fuck?
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:57 GMT
#5282
Apparently I've been reading wrong.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:57 GMT
#5285
On February 03 2016 07:56 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 07:52 sicklucker wrote:
so if we tie your shooting tonight or not


I would really like you to answer this...


I'll 10% it.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 22:59 GMT
#5287
It's not the worst plan. TT would have to be on board with this, however.
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February 02 2016 23:00 GMT
#5289
Yes. But if TT pushes over the shining I would shoot him.
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February 02 2016 23:01 GMT
#5292
On February 03 2016 08:00 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 07:57 Superbia wrote:
On February 03 2016 07:56 sicklucker wrote:
On February 03 2016 07:52 sicklucker wrote:
so if we tie your shooting tonight or not


I would really like you to answer this...


I'll 10% it.


no if we acualy sleep you always hold your shot you scum bastard ;p


Nono. Let mafia think there might be a chance to go for the win. If they want to take a 10% chance to win this game then by all means. ;p
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 23:03 GMT
#5295
Honestly I think the plan is still a bit meh-ish. I think we just end up in exactly the same situation as today except that I'm confirmed town. And tbh, I really don't want to play an extra 72hrs. I don't think you're ever scum here, which makes today pretty much exactly like tomorrow in my eyes.

The shining can you vote so we at least know you have voting power?
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February 02 2016 23:04 GMT
#5296
Like I like the premise and the thought behind it, but for me the result means very little.
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February 02 2016 23:10 GMT
#5302
On February 03 2016 08:06 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 08:00 Superbia wrote:
Yes. But if TT pushes over the shining I would shoot him.


If I'm mafia why not vote me today?

If you are voting mafia right now, why are you suddenly scared that I might join that vote?

This is why I have a hard time seeing you as town.

You have a chance to win RIGHT NOW as town, but you don't care kus you 100% win tonight if you are mafia.


..or because I'm like 99% SL is town and I have night KP.

This also taken out of context. I thought there were 3 votes today and said that you would win as mafia in a tie due to the 3 spread votes requirement. Then SL picked that up in the correct scenario where there are 4 votes. I then explained that since you are unable to push me over, I can just shoot you in the night if you try to go for the win that way (though in retrospect that's also possible in a 3 vote scenario if we place the votes correctly).
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February 02 2016 23:13 GMT
#5305
On February 03 2016 08:09 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 08:04 Superbia wrote:
Like I like the premise and the thought behind it, but for me the result means very little.


like this is why your mafia in some peoples minds. YOUR CONFIRMED TOWN TORMROW. shining might be confirmed town. like we learn so fucking much. Then ticktock/shining cant hide behind their tunnels on you and we can read them better


That last part is true. I just really don't want to spend an additional 72 hours in this scenario.
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February 02 2016 23:14 GMT
#5306
Meh.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 23:22 GMT
#5309
On February 03 2016 08:17 sicklucker wrote:
This is how we kill them both. IF they cant vote you publicly two things will happen.

They will have to both start tunneling me which is kind of laughable.
Or they will turn on each other and we can lynch both of them in anyorder.

This scenario is better because two lynches is better then one.

You not agreeing to this is a mafia claim tbh lol. impatience fucking mafia who wants to gloat sooner


No? If I'm mafia I would gloat whether we sleep or lynch. Both means I win at the same time.

Anyway, I'll agree to sleep but don't expect much activity from me in the following day.
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February 02 2016 23:25 GMT
#5311
On February 03 2016 08:18 Tictock wrote:
I think I'm willing to count the sheep to sleep, as long as SL is down to take the 100% blame if Super if mafia here. In that case I think it means I voted mafia everyday, even my "shenannies" on D1 on Dis was good.

I still never heard him explain why he TR's you SL, he dodged the question. I just don't trust he has real reads on people right now.


My read on SL is really really good. I believe I've correctly called him as his alignment in all games I was town and he was in it.

This game is exactly how he plays town. I can break it down if you want but I really don't think I have to. It has to do with a mixture of activity level, mood, general state of mind, and the way he constructs his posts.

Also it helps that he did not carry KP on the night koshi/keir died.
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February 02 2016 23:26 GMT
#5313
SL I believe you can confirm that I have correctly called your alignment every game I was in as town.
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February 02 2016 23:27 GMT
#5314
My switch after you literally night KPed your own team mate in Imperial (?) does not count. I had you as hard scum d1.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 23:29 GMT
#5316
I would like the other wagon to go on tictock though.. just in case. x:
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 23:30 GMT
#5318
Aw man, I shouldn't have brought that up.. we could've had hard auto. x:
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 23:31 GMT
#5319
No I mean instead of on me. :p
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 23:32 GMT
#5321
It's more like, the 0.01% chance you're mafia you get a free win by just pushing vote over on me EoD.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 23:34 GMT
#5322
Mehh. Fuck it though. I'm pretty sure you're town. Hard confirming it would lock it in.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 23:37 GMT
#5325
Still leaves me a bit uneasy. x:
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February 02 2016 23:40 GMT
#5326
On February 03 2016 08:37 Tictock wrote:
I'm not giving up, but I've more or less said my peace.

I've got nothing more to add till something interesting happens.


Make a case on the shining.
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Superbia
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February 02 2016 23:42 GMT
#5328
I have no idea where the shining is today either..
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February 02 2016 23:43 GMT
#5330
On February 03 2016 08:42 The Shining wrote:
I have a vote. It wouldn't be excluded until the eod post even if I didn't take the rb. I've been in class all day and I'm at a meeting now, I won't be around until 10 EST. From what I've read, it's obvious Super has to be against sleeping because if he is all for it, it's a scum claim to me imo.

Honestly TTs defense of me is pretty accurate and not weird to me. He obviously read my filter and instead of finding reasons to scum me, which Super can't do but SL tried to do, he found things that make me town. The only way I lynch TT is if I decide that's a pocket attempt but it really doesn't feel like it.

I'd probably lynch Super but SL apparently never will so we'll end up being forced to sleep. If super is scum, that's 2 kp, gg. I don't trust those odds. And all this back and forth is getting tiring. SL is hard towning Super the way TT is hard towning me. Super is hedging on one lynch, one shot. TT actually has a scum read. With thought out cases and posts. I don't agree with super that TT is being not townie. He seems the most townie to me.


Do you think you've been particularly town this game?
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February 02 2016 23:44 GMT
#5331
On February 03 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
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On February 03 2016 08:40 Superbia wrote:
On February 03 2016 08:37 Tictock wrote:
I'm not giving up, but I've more or less said my peace.

I've got nothing more to add till something interesting happens.


Make a case on the shining.


Lol you seem to be the one that wants me dead the most. Why don't you?


I'm just literally baiting out to see what his read on you is. You don't think it's suspicious at all that he's hard reading you town in MYLO after deciding YOU were the one who had to be roleblocked JUST the day before.
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February 02 2016 23:47 GMT
#5335
On February 03 2016 08:46 The Shining wrote:
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On February 03 2016 08:43 Superbia wrote:
On February 03 2016 08:42 The Shining wrote:
I have a vote. It wouldn't be excluded until the eod post even if I didn't take the rb. I've been in class all day and I'm at a meeting now, I won't be around until 10 EST. From what I've read, it's obvious Super has to be against sleeping because if he is all for it, it's a scum claim to me imo.

Honestly TTs defense of me is pretty accurate and not weird to me. He obviously read my filter and instead of finding reasons to scum me, which Super can't do but SL tried to do, he found things that make me town. The only way I lynch TT is if I decide that's a pocket attempt but it really doesn't feel like it.

I'd probably lynch Super but SL apparently never will so we'll end up being forced to sleep. If super is scum, that's 2 kp, gg. I don't trust those odds. And all this back and forth is getting tiring. SL is hard towning Super the way TT is hard towning me. Super is hedging on one lynch, one shot. TT actually has a scum read. With thought out cases and posts. I don't agree with super that TT is being not townie. He seems the most townie to me.


Do you think you've been particularly town this game?


Go read my 20 other town games. I'm as town as I always am. I lynch scum, I make posts when I'm able to be around, I catch people pushing me for no reason like you are.

I don't see what the motivation is behind this question. It's something you would be deciding if your town, not asking me


No. I want to know if you think it's justified that TT is reading you town in MYLO.
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February 02 2016 23:53 GMT
#5340
On February 03 2016 08:48 The Shining wrote:
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On February 03 2016 08:44 Superbia wrote:
On February 03 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
On February 03 2016 08:40 Superbia wrote:
On February 03 2016 08:37 Tictock wrote:
I'm not giving up, but I've more or less said my peace.

I've got nothing more to add till something interesting happens.


Make a case on the shining.


Lol you seem to be the one that wants me dead the most. Why don't you?


I'm just literally baiting out to see what his read on you is. You don't think it's suspicious at all that he's hard reading you town in MYLO after deciding YOU were the one who had to be roleblocked JUST the day before.


Except he's already made his read abundantly clear. And no I don't. I was the biggest question mark left and everyone in the thread leaned on him to RB me to confirm me. Now that it's done, both of us end up on the chopping block. Go figure.


His read essentially hinges on the fact that I'm mafia. You realize this right?

If you're town here you really shouldn't be swayed by the fact that he's "reading you correctly". He literally does not need to kill you to win the game. He just needs to not die. Take WIFOM for what it is.
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February 02 2016 23:55 GMT
#5343
On February 03 2016 08:54 The Shining wrote:
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On February 03 2016 08:52 sicklucker wrote:
On February 03 2016 08:50 The Shining wrote:
On February 03 2016 08:47 sicklucker wrote:
Shining how is he pushing you for no reason? his poe list is down to two people. and he happens to have 2kp...


That doesn't make me scum. Nothing he's said makes me scum except for a poe which has me in it so it isn't bad. He's picking on TT for hard defending me when he hasn't gone back to ree evaluating you. Basically the same thing.

He hasn't mentioned a single thing in my filter that objectively makes me scum because he prob hasn't read it.


he doesint make you scum but it means he has auto and doesint give a fuck...


Or he has auto as scum and doesn't give a Fuck and refuses to read filters because this game is on auto for a scum win.


Okay. But what if I'm town?
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February 02 2016 23:56 GMT
#5346
It's so fucked up that both of you are hard locked in on the world where I'm scum.
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February 02 2016 23:59 GMT
#5347
On February 03 2016 08:55 sicklucker wrote:
god the mindmelds im sure super is scum


...
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 00:00 GMT
#5348
I know it's a misspell, but it always makes me do a double take.
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February 03 2016 00:00 GMT
#5350
Ah ok.
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February 03 2016 00:04 GMT
#5351
I'm leaning to tictock being the mafia dragging the shining along.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 00:04 GMT
#5352
But w/e.
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February 03 2016 00:31 GMT
#5353
I'm going to sleep.
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February 03 2016 15:06 GMT
#5362
Tictock I'm going to make a final effort here in case you're town.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
SL it must be really comfy in Super's pocket.

I can't believe you don't see how he has no interest in figuering out scum today and you buy his "I have auto tonight" excuse. It's a great excuse to hind behind as scum, but it's the wrong fucking attitude as town when we can win today by finding and lynching scum. Instead of trying he just is bouncing between me and TS without trying to find reasons why we are town or scum.

Rereading today, focusing on Super's posts and modivations.

This was his position right at the start of the day.

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On February 02 2016 08:14 Superbia wrote:
Honestly it doesn't really matter that much. The reason I didn't want anyone to talk is because palmar was discussing our number of lynches and others were as well. I was hoping mafia would fuck up and they did.

Me being alive gives us a 2nd lynch.

We lynch today and I get a shot if we miss.


Does it really make sense that mafia would not realize Super's role or the number of shots they needed last night because there was no discussion?

His tone is all wrong too. He's way to mild mannered and uninvested for someone who just "fooled mafia" into letting him live.


All right. The problem here is that you see my motivation as mafia-aligned regardless of what's behind it. Imagine this, you're the town vigi with a shot in 3v1, do you look for the 1 scum? Honestly consider it yourself. You have two kills as town, and you have 3 to pick from. Isn't it easier to just find a ride-or-die town and kill the other two? I really don't understand how you're still not getting this if you're town. The scenario is different from my POV because I have power that changes the math. I win if I find a single town.

The thing is, it does make sense that mafia didn't figure it out, because I didn't get killed. Moreover, this also slightly leans towards a world where the last mafia is either with cake, didn't shoot, or couldn't shoot. This last part doesn't really matter though, except that a stack on palmar is unlikely.

I'm going to be brutally honest here, and no offense, but I don't think both you and the shining are particularly great at logic, judging from your general responses to my logic and the fact I have had to explain the amount of lynches in a variety of scenarios multiple times. Part of the reason why I'm pretty sure the mafia is between you two. I think SL would probably have figured it out and I would've been dead during the night.

I think my tone has been the same throughout the game. I was going to be the judge during this mylo and let you guys fight so I could figure out who the confirmed town was (was already heavily leaning towards SL tbh). My outlook changed the moment the two of you decided that I was the all of a sudden mafia and I could no longer play the judge role.


On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 02 2016 08:41 Superbia wrote:
Right. The town between you two will need to realize that the only way we have a chance to lose this game is if we sleep or lynch me. But whatever, we'll get there tomorrow.


This post is also odd, why does he think we lose if we sleep?

If he is town he should realize a sleep puts us in 2v1 tomorrow as long as he holds his shot. Only event of a town loss if we sleep is if Super is mafia.

Thus only a scum!Super should be thinking that town losses if we sleep.


Again, I have no idea how you're misreading my posts this hard every time.

For me we have a great chance to win because I can kill 2/3. If we sleep we lose that opportunity. So we go from 2/3 chance to 1/3. So yeah, town's chances go from almost certainly winning to decent chance of losing. Greatly reinforced by the fact that if the mafia is you, you'll more than likely be able to convince the shining that sicklucker is mafia, and if the shining is mafia, god knows where your logic will lead the game. So yes, I'd shoot every time (until SL came up with his plan).

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 02 2016 08:44 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:42 The Shining wrote:
Super no shooting makes sense too if he has kp anyway. Use his kp, no shoot, push me as the missing kp because he knew I was being rbd


Except that if you are scum I literally give town another lynch for no reason. (5v2 -> 4v2/4v1, very likely 4v1) Oh yeah, and I also get rid of the big question mark in the progress (and very, very likely reduce the scum count to 1). Yeah, no.


This post actually makes no sense, Super is actually talking as though he DID have 2 KP to consider. If he was town I'd expect him to only explain why he shot Cake, this actually reads "well if i left you alive I gave town another lynch which is stupid, also I did kill a question mark who turned out to be scum"


Okay. Let me explain why a no-shot is always the incorrect play as mafia, and why I would never do it if I were mafia.

Yesterday it's 4v1v1, 4v2, or 5v1 (GB could have been mafia, now confirmed to be false). Agreed?

Now let's paint this in where I'm mafia, because my 2nd kp would change the math and we can make some assumptions because copcake flipped mafia due to my shot.

If I'm mafia, it's 4v1v1 or 5v1, unless I KP my partner (hint: nope).

So, if I am to no shoot, the following can happen:
1. It's 5v1, and there is no KP from mafia.
2. The Shining is mafia and there is no KP.
3. Other mafia holds their shot and there is no KP.
4. Mafia goes on my CPR target (very, very unlikely).

So, there's a actually pretty good chance that there is no KP. What does this mean?

We go to the following scenario:
3v1v1 OR 4v1.

What happens then? We sleep and I have to shoot the shining to prove myself. So let's examine the worlds then.
In a 4v1 it can only get reduced to a 3v1 or a 2v1 at best. AND town gets a the shining flip for free. Great reduces my chances if I'm mafia. (This would also be the likely world because I CPRed copcake, and a scum is likely to flip).
In a 3v1v1 I literally give the other mafia another chance to KP me during the night. So I basically turn the game into a coinflip. Yeah. No.

So yes, if I am mafia then no-shooting something I would never do.

Now let's fill in the world where you are mafia:

A. With copcake.
- You have no choice, you only have 1 KP. Rels could've been on both of you as opposed mafia as a bonus. However, I think that Rels may have been aligned with copcake. Can't remember why I think this though. I think this world is logically viable, but gut says Rels was with copcake so that means you couldn't have been with copcake. Next.

B. Not with copcake.
- I honestly think you accidentally stacked with copcake on Palmar here, or copcake no-shot (very unlikely world tbh). I don't think you held your shot because of the way you were pushing me pre-flip and the way you are fine with hard defending the shining, even though it looks like KP was missing on paper, and he was roleblocked (due to TMI).

Like I said before, I don't think your logic has been strong, so I don't think you would've understood the consequences of no-shooting versus shooting if you were mafia. The fact that you were already ready to defend The Shining makes me believe that there was no no-shoot from you, unless it's ultimate WIFOM and you were planning to let SL and myself to d the grunt work.

Now let's fill in the world where the shining is mafia:
A. With copcake.
- Copcake delivers the singular KP that they share. I feel like this can logically be a world because of the way copcake has played this game. I.e. she could've been with everyone bar Glowingbear (and myself). However, like I've said before, I feel like rels was with copcake so the shining couldn't have been.

B. Without copcake.
- Copcake delivered KP. TS couldn't deliver KP. It's a pretty straightforward world, but one that can be ridden out with the "mafia held their shot" WIFOM.

Sicklucker is mafia:
- Town loses the game.


On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 02 2016 08:46 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:41 Superbia wrote:
Right. The town between you two will need to realize that the only way we have a chance to lose this game is if we sleep or lynch me. But whatever, we'll get there tomorrow.


There is 1 scum left. If we sleep, there would be 1 NK if you don't shoot and 3 left tomorrow with 1 scum. How is that a loss?


No. If we sleep I literally die because I'm confirmed town tomorrow (due to the fact that the game is not over). AND we lose a lynch (I can't shoot anymore). Best case scenario is that scum does not realize this (derp, but kind of likely since they didn't realize the extra lynch), SL dies (likely), and my shot means that we get a shot at a draw.


So Super doesn't want to sleep because he might die, which would actually put us in 2v1 tomorrow with a 1/3 chance of lynching scum over the 1/4 today.

However! The ironic thing here is that that situation should literally be Super's PoV today, he needs to pick the mafia between the 3 of us to win. Yet he has constantly refused to do anything towards that end. He just wants to leave it at either me or TS with his shot to end the game.

It's REALLY important to find scum today, but Super just keeps using his shot as an excuse to do nothing. The fact the he continues to do nothing to push TS or myself as mafia while claiming he doesn't want to sleep is a HUGE contradiction.


No. I pick the TOWN between the 3 of you to win. I've explained this before. Sleeping without SL's plan is superbad because it literally loses us a lynch while confirming me town and I get to leave behind a 1-lynch legacy. Versus getting 2 lynches. Yeah. I think I've explained this enough already.

tl;dr: 2 lynches > 1 lynch.


On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 02 2016 09:39 Superbia wrote:
1. Because if SL (and myself) are town I can literally kill you both. 1- lynch, 2-cpr.
2. I have specifically said that WE NEVER SLEEP HERE.
3. I literally do not really give a shit which of you two are mafia because I can shoot the other if we miss. I just have to ensure SL is town but I'm pretty sure.


Just again, very adiment about not sleeping but he isn't thinking about winning today.

How does it make sense that town!Super is more focused on the win tonight than on winning today by lynching scum? I don't know how to point this out more clearly.


Again, I COMBINE THE TWO. I get BOTH the lynch AND the shot. I'm not focused on the shot. I'm focused on both.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 02 2016 11:15 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:08 The Shining wrote:
TTs ability is also 2 shot. Damdred me. He can't do it again.

I also already explained why scumSuper would no shoot last night as well. Knows I'm rb. Has 2 kp so only uses one, puts the missing one blame on me.


IF IM MAFIA I DONT NO-SHOOT. ITS FUCKING HORRIBLE BECAUSE IF YOURE THE OTHER MAFIA TOWN GAINS ANOTHER LYNCH.


This is a retarted way to reply. If Super is mafia obv Shining is not, sorry but Caps don't hide the fact that you are not responding to this in a way that makes sense.


I've explained above why I would never no-shoot as mafia and have shown with logic how it gains town a free flip on the shining (and copcake/GB) while not costing you a lynch. Great play as mafia. 5/7.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 02 2016 21:26 Superbia wrote:
Okay. You understand that for me the optimal way to go about this day is find 1 town instead of the mafia, right? (if I'm town)


This is a technicality, sure the easy way for a Town!Super to pull off the win, but it doesn't mean that he shouldn't try to find scum today so that he doesn't need to rely on his shot. I really REALLY think it's scummy that Super's so focused on this play that involves winning tonight not lynching scum today.


No it doesn't. I find the town to ride or die with because it allows me to focus my efforts. I could focus on either of you but logically you both fit as mafia in the world. Stop hammering this shit home, it is really, really obnoxious.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 02 2016 22:40 Superbia wrote:
Honestly I feel like I've been supertownie even without the whole dreamflower thing.

There's a good reason Palmar hard read me town while he has been able to scum-read me halfway through d1 in the past. Look at my past games.


I really dislike this post. First line reads "Yea I should be townread for the Dreamflower thing" and then he's just useing the fact that Palmar townread him as proof that he's town.

I don't see why mafia can't claim they are going to pick dreamflower and then pick something else later, it's actually a decent move to get easy towncred. Act like your going for a role that is suicide if mafia, then back down when someone suggests something else. I pointed out I had suspicions about this claim right off btw, it doesn't convince me anymore now.

Also if we wanna throw in dead players reads...
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On January 20 2016 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Super why the postering on dreamflowet and then backing out?

(Didn't go looking for that one, happened to spot it while I went looking for...)

On January 25 2016 05:12 Damdred wrote:
Yeah I already read shinning filter.

He's probably 90% town, decent activity and prodding questions. I wouldn't ever lynch him


Out of context. Pretty sure damdred's reponse was a reaction test because at that point in time I was still adamant about picking it. The only reason I let dreamflower go was because of the hilariously ingenious application of forcing a scummy player to pick it. I was pretty adamant about picking it because I loved the role and I'm pretty confident in shooting scum (100% hit rate when the shot went through btw. Also could still be 3/4 correct targets).

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 02 2016 23:02 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 23:01 sicklucker wrote:
Like do you shoot? do you hold it? you need a plan b


We'll go into the night with me confirmed town and we can discuss my shot. I'll likely shoot because I have 0 confidence in the town to make the right decision tbh.


This is a bad answer. If town he should realize that if we sleep and he shoots wrong it's game. If he thinks he's got better reads than the rest of us why isn't he sharing them and trying to convince us to lynch that person today? Only reason he'd shoot if we sleep is if he is scum.


I shoot because I have 0 confidence in the town between you and the shining to make the correct play. I can honestly see you guys just lynching SL in final 3 after these shenanigans.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 03 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote:
Also it literally boggles my mind that you're defending someone in MYLO.

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On February 03 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote:
That is so un-towny.


Yea, explaining my TR on someone is un-towny. This is total BS.

Super should get lynched for this alone. Claiming that me discussing why I think someone is town in 3v1 is mafia motivated.


You know what I mean with this. Town should be super suspicious. YOU should be super suspicious. Your logic has been invalid and skewed (in the direction of me being Mafia), as I've pointed out before. Your evaluation on the shining is ???. I don't even know. You say you have a town-read on him but you said the same about me when you flipped your read on me ("Superbia is the same as he was last game we played in"). The real fact is that the shining should be your #1 suspect, or at least A suspect. But that's not what I'm getting out of your gameplay at all. Moreover, you're not even bothered by his absence or lack of contribution during this MYLO. Mind. Boggling.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 03 2016 06:40 Superbia wrote:
There is no possible scenario in which you are town. Town is never this convinced in mylo. You've put up a charade of "hmm maybe I should take a look at SL" but it's just a facade. If you were town you would be looking at everybody.

You came in today with a plan. Your post before the night reflected this. The fact that Palmar died over me in the night reflected this.


Explain how Palmar being killed explains anything? If I am scum I never let Super live to possibly shoot me. 2v1 is better for me as scum than the current situation with Super having a shot tonight. Hell anyone of Me/SL/TS as scum would have a high priority to shoot you Super, yet you are still here.


I don't think you were logical enough to realize this (shooting me == optimal play). No personal offense meant. I've had to explain this logic multiple times already, and you're still either not getting it, or ignoring it. Moreover, I've explained the KP world in which you're mafia above.

The fact that you had a huge case on me pre-flip suggests that you were planning on going on me the following day. This suggests that I'm living and that the shining could possibly be confirmed town going into the night (hence the world where you stacked with copcake being the logic one). Moreover, thinking about it, even if you did see the logic, if you expected 3kp in the night we would end up in a 2v1 anyway.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
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On February 03 2016 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Reading game filter. Did he flip his read at some point just to go back to it later?


This never panned out. I don't think Super ever did this.


I glanced over your filter but I couldn't really find anything substantial either way. The fact that the game was like 3/4 years ago and one of your first games (I believe), kind of invalidates any filter-logic.


On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:I think I'm done here, kinda feel like I'm hitting on the same points over and over (also only a couple more pages to go).

I think it's really clear from Super's posting today that he is only focused on winning tonight, not in correctly lynching mafia today. The only reason why he would be discounting winning today is if he is mafia, this excuse of "having auto" is the most BS reasoning I've ever heard.

This is my last effort to show you guys why we should be lynching Super.

If I'm wrong, convince me of it. If I'm mafia, lynch me for it.


You are hitting the same points over and over, and it's annoying. I think it's clear from my posts that I'm winning, but as town. Whatever. I think I've refuted all your points with this post, and I expect to hear something fresh before EoD.

I'm not crazy about the option to sleep myself since I think scum!Super just wins then, but if that's my only choice besides lynching Shining hoping that I've been wrong on him all game... I think it's what I prefer.[/QUOTE]
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February 03 2016 15:06 GMT
#5363
That took way too much time and energy.
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February 03 2016 15:07 GMT
#5364
On February 03 2016 22:58 The Shining wrote:
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On February 03 2016 16:51 sicklucker wrote:
Like I would literally play how hes playing (trying to get my two lynchings and not caring about anything else)

Infact im doing that.

im also not giving shining this win. super can have it. hes struggled to post alot as mafia in the past and was very obvious when I caught him in my first mafia game in final 3 (altho i couldnt get him lynched)


This is the shittiest non logic ever. SL you're gonna throw and I'm gonna bm you so hard for it. Indefinitely. You had the fucking nerve to shit on me for being useless before this game even really got started and then you expect me to be interested in playing with an arrogant sob like you.

Now you're literally saying let's give scum Super a win. You are so Damn bad, and a douche towards me since this game started. Literally Fuck you. Just lynch me. I'm done with this game. I swear to god I hope you are town so I can call you bad and blame this loss on you forever.


Right.
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February 03 2016 15:07 GMT
#5365
The fact is that if either me or SL is mafia then the game is already lost.

Evaluate on each other.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 15:08 GMT
#5366
And stop being drama-flowers. Especially if you're town. These "ragequits" are incredibly counterproductive.
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February 03 2016 19:06 GMT
#5372
On February 04 2016 02:02 Tictock wrote:
Wont be able to read that whole response right now during my break, but I might switch my vote purely bacause you took the time to respond like that when it's clear SL is never budging anyway.


You want to vote SL now??
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February 03 2016 19:07 GMT
#5373
On February 04 2016 03:59 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:01 sicklucker wrote:
I acualy just realized something. Do you tihkn a mafia shining would acept a roleblock in the spot he was in? would he go for the win or play the long game?

Your answers will probably determine the game :D


i see you all evaded this important qeustion. I cant really proceed untill you answer this


He would accept the roleblock if he's mafia because not accepting it would mean he's essentially confirmed mafia.
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February 03 2016 19:08 GMT
#5374
On February 04 2016 04:04 sicklucker wrote:
super maybe you thought shining was roleblocked last night and wanted to frame him for auto?


That is what the entire discussion is about. But I wouldn't know if the shining was town or mafia even if I was mafia. And I wouldn't know if there would be a second kp. So me going for the "frame" is suboptimal. Explained it in my big post.
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February 03 2016 19:09 GMT
#5376
On February 04 2016 04:08 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 02:00 Tictock wrote:
Huh, who has rage quit?


shining is being a big baby that I scum read him and calling me names. This is my probelm with you. you do nothing (thats fine w/e there are alot of inactive players here) But then when people scum read you for doing nothing you still do nothing except you make angry posts. Like its such a shit meta and im sorry im not one of your click who townread you for it but its such a shit meta and you should be scumread for. That being said I might not even lynch you here and thats sad.

I might even lynch this super tryhard player super who has played a flawless game and I have zero reason to scum read just because im starting to think ticktock is more town then him


Uhuh.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:10 GMT
#5377
(I'm assuming that was sarcasm)
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February 03 2016 19:16 GMT
#5382
On February 04 2016 04:15 sicklucker wrote:
So when a scum shining has to choose to rb himself or not. Its 6 players left rels just got lynched.

Us four palmar and cop.

I confirmed copcake was the last mafia on her team probably with rels judging by his post. So that means shining did not know if he was the last mafia or not. So he probably thought he was 1 mafia vs 5 towns. So he probably thinks he has to comply with town and pray something dumb happens to win the game.

I think this means shining really did roleblock himself as scum here?

That means I dont have to lynch him today I can lynch between tt and super and get two lynches. SO theres acualy no reason to side with super just to get two lynches


The roleblock lasts for 1 night dude.

SL are you high right now.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:17 GMT
#5385
On February 04 2016 04:13 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:04 sicklucker wrote:
super maybe you thought shining was roleblocked last night and wanted to frame him for auto?


Because I never said this ever before


Can you refute my logic on why I would never roleblock you? The one in my big post just now.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:24 GMT
#5390
On February 04 2016 04:23 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:17 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:13 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:04 sicklucker wrote:
super maybe you thought shining was roleblocked last night and wanted to frame him for auto?


Because I never said this ever before


Can you refute my logic on why I would never roleblock you? The one in my big post just now.


You can't roleblock me. I think you misphrased here. You don't have an rb role


Eh, no-shoot*.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:26 GMT
#5391
On February 04 2016 04:23 sicklucker wrote:
No super Somethings sitting wrong with me. Your filter is so clean im probably losing my mind. Gonna go read filters for a shit ton of time now. Dont wanna get this wrong. TT i suggest you keep your vote the same because im now deciding between you and super rather then between super and both fo you. This is a more even playing field really


Read filters all you want but don't be too paranoid please..
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:27 GMT
#5394
On February 04 2016 04:26 sicklucker wrote:
Lol that might have been a scum slip. FUCK SUPER IF YOUR TOWN YOUR PLAYING THIS LYLO SO BAD


...? I'm never a roleblocker?
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:28 GMT
#5395
If this isn't some sort of elaborate reaction test I'm going to very annoyed.
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February 03 2016 19:29 GMT
#5397
On February 04 2016 04:28 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:21 sicklucker wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:13 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:04 sicklucker wrote:
super maybe you thought shining was roleblocked last night and wanted to frame him for auto?


Because I never said this ever before


see the word of a potential scum on himself means notihng great you said that I ignored. I was just more thinknig under the logic that you as mafia would know there was a second mafia team left and probably come to the conclusion that tomorrow would be lylo so roleblocking yourself would be wrong


Except I wasnt talking about myself only. I was talking about Super framing me because he knew I'd take the rb. If I'm scum, I never give up my only kp.

Super is basically confirmed scum. There is no way any team with a qt is going to allow town to have an extra kp and risk losing their auto win. It's way too unlikely.

And look at all of Supers walls of text. He's not being clear and concise. They're just there as misleading distractions. Even the follow up questions have no aim.


How is this literally all you have to say.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:30 GMT
#5399
I have shown with absolute perfect logic that if I was in the scum position last night, no-shooting is super insanely bad.

But let's just ignore it.
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February 03 2016 19:33 GMT
#5402
On February 04 2016 04:31 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:27 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:26 sicklucker wrote:
Lol that might have been a scum slip. FUCK SUPER IF YOUR TOWN YOUR PLAYING THIS LYLO SO BAD


...? I'm never a roleblocker?


but you might hold shot thinking shining is roleblocked? you see where the paranoia kicks in...


SL I have explained how no-shooting last night very likely leads to a super bad situation if I were mafia. Check out the big reply I had on TT's post. 2nd part iirc.

Essentially it boils down to a likely 4v1 where we have to sleep while I shoot the shining. Which essentially means that I'm giving town a free the shining flip were I mafia. That's not a good play.
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February 03 2016 19:34 GMT
#5403
On February 04 2016 04:33 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:30 Superbia wrote:
I have shown with absolute perfect logic that if I was in the scum position last night, no-shooting is super insanely bad.

But let's just ignore it.


Scum would not know if the other scum are alive. ALSO THERE IS ACUALY NO EVIDENCE THAT SCUM EVEN HELD THERE SHOT. yet you fucking talked about it for your entire day. like wtf maybe they just stacked? its not even worth talking about. Maybe you thought shining was roleblocked tonight and not tomorrow? not really worth talking about.

So your entire huge post was not worth talking about


SL you do realize that the case on me has hinged on the fact I am the mafia who no-shot to frame the shining, right?

Seriously dude, read the post. It's really fucking good.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:40 GMT
#5409
On February 04 2016 04:37 sicklucker wrote:
Yes its a shitty case


Agreed. But they have both hammered the fact that I could have no-shot home, while I've been saying that's absolutely ridiculous because it's a shit tier play. I've taken part of the post to explain why it's a shit tier play because I'm fucking tired of hearing it.

From my POV it's either TT who stacked on Palmar with copcake or the shining who just straight up got roleblocked. I've explained why in my big post.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:42 GMT
#5411
On February 04 2016 04:39 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:30 Superbia wrote:
I have shown with absolute perfect logic that if I was in the scum position last night, no-shooting is super insanely bad.

But let's just ignore it.


Or you stacked on Palmar and are now using the no shoot excuse. You even encouraged Palmar to not post during the night phase.


This is so backwards. You've been pushing me for no-shooting.

I agree that a stack on Palmar was likely if you're town because I don't think a team of 2 with copcake +1 is likely. I also explained that TT would have likely not held his shot due to his EoN post.

Also I specifically told Palmar to leave a legacy at EoN.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:45 GMT
#5413
On February 04 2016 04:39 Tictock wrote:
I think you guys might need to take a step back from the KP and stuff last night.

We are for sure 3v1 right now, one of the 4 of us is scum. We shouldn't need to drone on about this RB, KP, Role stuff just look at what everyone's motivations are in their posts today.

This is actually exactly what I did in my last WoT btw. Post #5355

Though tbh when I was looking at The Shining's posts as I did that I was also not seeing a ton of town motivations. I'll relook at those.


Yes. But in PyP games the powers are incredibly important and hard facts can be drawn from them.

Have you read my big post yet?
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:46 GMT
#5414
On February 04 2016 04:45 sicklucker wrote:
I dont think tt can be with disinfo form filter. and I think rels/copcake werre together and copcake is confirmed a dead mafia.

This means he would have had to be 1v3. and he got roleblocked with 2 kp.. which is alot of town points


I would like to remind you that I shot disfo.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:49 GMT
#5417
On February 04 2016 04:46 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:37 sicklucker wrote:
Yes its a shitty case


Agreed. But they have both hammered the fact that I could have no-shot home, while I've been saying that's absolutely ridiculous because it's a shit tier play. I've taken part of the post to explain why it's a shit tier play because I'm fucking tired of hearing it.

From my POV it's either TT who stacked on Palmar with copcake or the shining who just straight up got roleblocked. I've explained why in my big post.


i understand and its something you would believe as mafia and focus which is rubbing me the wrong way. When I play mafia I focus on the town cases that make absolutely no sense on me and get mad about. Thats kind of how im reading you and starting to flip my read


Right. But if people keep repeating the same shit over and over again and not evaluating the actual game then yes, I'm going to get annoyed/mad.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:51 GMT
#5420
On February 04 2016 04:47 sicklucker wrote:
I didnt say your mafia team would include disinfo


... If copcake is with rels then disfo is on a different team.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:53 GMT
#5423
I'm going to cool down for now and watch some Sherlock with gf.

SL you're literally giving me a heart attack.

Will be back later.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 19:58 GMT
#5425
TT you need to do your action on The Shining before EoD in case we still want to go through with SL's plan btw.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 22:04 GMT
#5501
I'm actually so tired of defending myself. We don't even have SL's plan because both actions apparently were already used.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 22:05 GMT
#5502
Ask away or whatever.

I believe I have shot mafia from both teams. My votes have been pretty godly as well. I think I've played townie. I think my mindset today was correct.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 22:06 GMT
#5503
I literally do not know why palmar died over me.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 22:06 GMT
#5504
But it honestly doesn't even matter since I'm up for the lynch anyway.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 22:08 GMT
#5506
If we're no-lynching I'm not shooting. You guys can figure it out tomorrow then.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 22:08 GMT
#5507
But we really should never no-lynch. It's kind of sick that TT is now gone.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 22:09 GMT
#5508
Because if people believe I'm town then we should go for the double lynch.
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February 03 2016 22:18 GMT
#5512
On February 04 2016 07:15 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 20:30 Tictock wrote:
Lol yea.

There is always the chance that I'm off the mark here still.

Even at this stage of the game there is a ton of moving pieces and I'm sure I'm missing or not properly accounting for something.

The only thing that worries me a little is that I've been fairly adamant about TRing SL and TS and if I've been wrong one of you could be trying to take advantage of that.

Still though I really think Kita/Rels/Dis/Cake was a team, and I have fairly good reasons to think SL and TS were not on a team with Onegu while having some evidence of associations between Super and FF/Onegu.

I'm also not sure why nobody shot Super if he is town.


i agree that it was rels/dis/cake vs ff/onegu and one of super and the shining. super makes sense but why cant it be the shining? They both took 6.1 from me and purposely tanked there number pick


What's the logic behind the rels/dis/cake team?
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 22:21 GMT
#5515
On February 04 2016 07:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 22:59 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 22:58 sicklucker wrote:
You literraly have put zero effort into helping me figure out which one of them is the last mafia. Your like oh haha lets kill both. Well we can only kill one because we are probably sleeping


My best play is to convince the town between them to stop being an idiot.

I'm going to talk to both of them when they get back, but I think TT went to bed.


you never really tried to do this tho i think?


I honestly tried with TT. The Shining is a brick wall.
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February 03 2016 22:34 GMT
#5523
I really just want this day to be done with.

SL you out of all people should know I'm town. Like over TT.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 22:34 GMT
#5524
I don't understand how you're waffling this much on me. =/
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February 03 2016 22:36 GMT
#5528
On February 04 2016 07:35 sicklucker wrote:
Well TT is town and you dont see it


No. I don't.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 22:37 GMT
#5529
I played this game like a fucking god.
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February 03 2016 22:39 GMT
#5533
On February 04 2016 07:38 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 07:37 Superbia wrote:
I played this game like a fucking god.


i agree! regardless of alignment =]


As town.
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February 03 2016 22:41 GMT
#5534
On February 04 2016 07:39 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 07:36 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:35 sicklucker wrote:
Well TT is town and you dont see it


No. I don't.


But you're voting me.

Obvious scum is obvious


Right. It's between you and TT. I feel like it could still be TT.

You do realize that the only way town can still win is if I force the draw because TT is gone, right? SL is convinced TT is town. He can figure it out tomorrow.
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February 03 2016 22:44 GMT
#5540
On February 04 2016 07:43 sicklucker wrote:
Well it matters so ticktock cant hammer you for the win but i happen to think hes town


He can't because I would shoot him.
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February 03 2016 22:46 GMT
#5545
On February 04 2016 07:45 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 07:42 sicklucker wrote:
Also shining it does not matter who we even vote today... the point is to get the draw


The draw is what Superbia wants. It's his win condition. Jesus Christ


The draw is my only option now. It's fucking horrible but whatever. Can't work with this town.
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February 03 2016 22:48 GMT
#5547
On February 04 2016 07:47 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:41 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:31 sicklucker wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:28 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:20 sicklucker wrote:
On February 02 2016 22:59 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 22:58 sicklucker wrote:
You literraly have put zero effort into helping me figure out which one of them is the last mafia. Your like oh haha lets kill both. Well we can only kill one because we are probably sleeping


My best play is to convince the town between them to stop being an idiot.

I'm going to talk to both of them when they get back, but I think TT went to bed.


you never really tried to do this tho i think?


I honestly tried with TT. The Shining is a brick wall.


I usually am when I think I know who the last scum is in endgame. In 3 different endgames, I've cased 3 scum and gotten 2 of them lynched and won. Was NKd and someone threw the other, but I cased the right one. Here, I haven't had the time to make a case but my conviction is no less certain.


but this game every dead townie called super scum? you should probably try a little harder? palmer specifically said to lynch you in this sitation over me or super. He was even more sure super was town then me


Palmar is another you and Rels and ritoky, AKA TRASH AT READING ME. And you still can't tell me why scum me or scum TT would leave a CPR DOC ALIVE IN ENDGAME


you said it yourself you afked last time you were mafia and things were going bad. also your roleblocked? also cop would have shot palmar because she didnt give a fuck or know what she was doing


I afkd the last 24 hours of the phase I was being lynched. I haven't afkd any lynches here, whether it was scum or me today. Wtf are you talking about?

If I'm scum, I never take that roleblock. I shoot Super to get rid of that kp/possible save and hope town pushes a mislynch. You'd never know until eod that I didn't take the rb. That's stupid.


If you don't take the roleblock you get 100% lynched today..
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February 03 2016 22:52 GMT
#5553
On February 04 2016 07:48 sicklucker wrote:
I dont like that supers not trying to influence who i lynch but tho


Lol. You can figure it out tomorrow. I just literally want to get out of this game.

No offense dude but you're going to do your own shit at the EoD. I know you. I recommend taking a good hard look at TT. Like really fucking thorough.
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February 03 2016 22:53 GMT
#5555
On February 04 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 07:48 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:47 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:41 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:31 sicklucker wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:28 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:20 sicklucker wrote:
On February 02 2016 22:59 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

My best play is to convince the town between them to stop being an idiot.

I'm going to talk to both of them when they get back, but I think TT went to bed.


you never really tried to do this tho i think?


I honestly tried with TT. The Shining is a brick wall.


I usually am when I think I know who the last scum is in endgame. In 3 different endgames, I've cased 3 scum and gotten 2 of them lynched and won. Was NKd and someone threw the other, but I cased the right one. Here, I haven't had the time to make a case but my conviction is no less certain.


but this game every dead townie called super scum? you should probably try a little harder? palmer specifically said to lynch you in this sitation over me or super. He was even more sure super was town then me


Palmar is another you and Rels and ritoky, AKA TRASH AT READING ME. And you still can't tell me why scum me or scum TT would leave a CPR DOC ALIVE IN ENDGAME


you said it yourself you afked last time you were mafia and things were going bad. also your roleblocked? also cop would have shot palmar because she didnt give a fuck or know what she was doing


I afkd the last 24 hours of the phase I was being lynched. I haven't afkd any lynches here, whether it was scum or me today. Wtf are you talking about?

If I'm scum, I never take that roleblock. I shoot Super to get rid of that kp/possible save and hope town pushes a mislynch. You'd never know until eod that I didn't take the rb. That's stupid.


If you don't take the roleblock you get 100% lynched today..


If I don't take the roleblock, you don't confirm it until EoD. So there was no way of knowing. Horrible argument.


Elaborate. I don't exactly get your point here.
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February 03 2016 22:56 GMT
#5560
On February 04 2016 07:55 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 07:53 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:48 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:47 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:41 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:31 sicklucker wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:28 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

I honestly tried with TT. The Shining is a brick wall.


I usually am when I think I know who the last scum is in endgame. In 3 different endgames, I've cased 3 scum and gotten 2 of them lynched and won. Was NKd and someone threw the other, but I cased the right one. Here, I haven't had the time to make a case but my conviction is no less certain.


but this game every dead townie called super scum? you should probably try a little harder? palmer specifically said to lynch you in this sitation over me or super. He was even more sure super was town then me


Palmar is another you and Rels and ritoky, AKA TRASH AT READING ME. And you still can't tell me why scum me or scum TT would leave a CPR DOC ALIVE IN ENDGAME


you said it yourself you afked last time you were mafia and things were going bad. also your roleblocked? also cop would have shot palmar because she didnt give a fuck or know what she was doing


I afkd the last 24 hours of the phase I was being lynched. I haven't afkd any lynches here, whether it was scum or me today. Wtf are you talking about?

If I'm scum, I never take that roleblock. I shoot Super to get rid of that kp/possible save and hope town pushes a mislynch. You'd never know until eod that I didn't take the rb. That's stupid.


If you don't take the roleblock you get 100% lynched today..


If I don't take the roleblock, you don't confirm it until EoD. So there was no way of knowing. Horrible argument.


Elaborate. I don't exactly get your point here.


You have 0 way to prove whether I take the roleblock or not because the vote isn't excluded until the EoD post if I didn't. Theoretically no one knows if I did in fact take the roleblock or not. So how does it make me 100% lynched? You are just making things up now


Wait really? I thought it would show up in the vote count.
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February 03 2016 22:57 GMT
#5561
I need to brb rq. I'll be back in abit.
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February 03 2016 23:34 GMT
#5576
STOP THROWING THE GAME
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February 03 2016 23:35 GMT
#5577
Holy shit. Read context. The only reason I went over that logic is because I said before that that town would ALWAYS get a lynch if my CPR doc is the only KP during the night. Then I believe TT brought up the logic that this doesn't happen because I would have 2 kp if I'm mafia. I made that post to prove him wrong.
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February 03 2016 23:36 GMT
#5579
Also that entire post has been the best thing anyone has ever posted today. Not even REMOTELY close.
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February 03 2016 23:39 GMT
#5581
On February 04 2016 08:26 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 08:22 sicklucker wrote:
On February 04 2016 00:06 Superbia wrote:
Tictock I'm going to make a final effort here in case you're town.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
SL it must be really comfy in Super's pocket.

I can't believe you don't see how he has no interest in figuering out scum today and you buy his "I have auto tonight" excuse. It's a great excuse to hind behind as scum, but it's the wrong fucking attitude as town when we can win today by finding and lynching scum. Instead of trying he just is bouncing between me and TS without trying to find reasons why we are town or scum.

Rereading today, focusing on Super's posts and modivations.

This was his position right at the start of the day.

On February 02 2016 08:14 Superbia wrote:
Honestly it doesn't really matter that much. The reason I didn't want anyone to talk is because palmar was discussing our number of lynches and others were as well. I was hoping mafia would fuck up and they did.

Me being alive gives us a 2nd lynch.

We lynch today and I get a shot if we miss.


Does it really make sense that mafia would not realize Super's role or the number of shots they needed last night because there was no discussion?

His tone is all wrong too. He's way to mild mannered and uninvested for someone who just "fooled mafia" into letting him live.


All right. The problem here is that you see my motivation as mafia-aligned regardless of what's behind it. Imagine this, you're the town vigi with a shot in 3v1, do you look for the 1 scum? Honestly consider it yourself. You have two kills as town, and you have 3 to pick from. Isn't it easier to just find a ride-or-die town and kill the other two? I really don't understand how you're still not getting this if you're town. The scenario is different from my POV because I have power that changes the math. I win if I find a single town.

The thing is, it does make sense that mafia didn't figure it out, because I didn't get killed. Moreover, this also slightly leans towards a world where the last mafia is either with cake, didn't shoot, or couldn't shoot. This last part doesn't really matter though, except that a stack on palmar is unlikely.

I'm going to be brutally honest here, and no offense, but I don't think both you and the shining are particularly great at logic, judging from your general responses to my logic and the fact I have had to explain the amount of lynches in a variety of scenarios multiple times. Part of the reason why I'm pretty sure the mafia is between you two. I think SL would probably have figured it out and I would've been dead during the night.

I think my tone has been the same throughout the game. I was going to be the judge during this mylo and let you guys fight so I could figure out who the confirmed town was (was already heavily leaning towards SL tbh). My outlook changed the moment the two of you decided that I was the all of a sudden mafia and I could no longer play the judge role.


On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:41 Superbia wrote:
Right. The town between you two will need to realize that the only way we have a chance to lose this game is if we sleep or lynch me. But whatever, we'll get there tomorrow.


This post is also odd, why does he think we lose if we sleep?

If he is town he should realize a sleep puts us in 2v1 tomorrow as long as he holds his shot. Only event of a town loss if we sleep is if Super is mafia.

Thus only a scum!Super should be thinking that town losses if we sleep.


Again, I have no idea how you're misreading my posts this hard every time.

For me we have a great chance to win because I can kill 2/3. If we sleep we lose that opportunity. So we go from 2/3 chance to 1/3. So yeah, town's chances go from almost certainly winning to decent chance of losing. Greatly reinforced by the fact that if the mafia is you, you'll more than likely be able to convince the shining that sicklucker is mafia, and if the shining is mafia, god knows where your logic will lead the game. So yes, I'd shoot every time (until SL came up with his plan).

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:44 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:42 The Shining wrote:
Super no shooting makes sense too if he has kp anyway. Use his kp, no shoot, push me as the missing kp because he knew I was being rbd


Except that if you are scum I literally give town another lynch for no reason. (5v2 -> 4v2/4v1, very likely 4v1) Oh yeah, and I also get rid of the big question mark in the progress (and very, very likely reduce the scum count to 1). Yeah, no.


This post actually makes no sense, Super is actually talking as though he DID have 2 KP to consider. If he was town I'd expect him to only explain why he shot Cake, this actually reads "well if i left you alive I gave town another lynch which is stupid, also I did kill a question mark who turned out to be scum"


Okay. Let me explain why a no-shot is always the incorrect play as mafia, and why I would never do it if I were mafia.

Yesterday it's 4v1v1, 4v2, or 5v1 (GB could have been mafia, now confirmed to be false). Agreed?

Now let's paint this in where I'm mafia, because my 2nd kp would change the math and we can make some assumptions because copcake flipped mafia due to my shot.

If I'm mafia, it's 4v1v1 or 5v1, unless I KP my partner (hint: nope).

So, if I am to no shoot, the following can happen:
1. It's 5v1, and there is no KP from mafia.
2. The Shining is mafia and there is no KP.
3. Other mafia holds their shot and there is no KP.
4. Mafia goes on my CPR target (very, very unlikely).

So, there's a actually pretty good chance that there is no KP. What does this mean?

We go to the following scenario:
3v1v1 OR 4v1.

What happens then? We sleep and I have to shoot the shining to prove myself. So let's examine the worlds then.
In a 4v1 it can only get reduced to a 3v1 or a 2v1 at best. AND town gets a the shining flip for free. Great reduces my chances if I'm mafia. (This would also be the likely world because I CPRed copcake, and a scum is likely to flip).
In a 3v1v1 I literally give the other mafia another chance to KP me during the night. So I basically turn the game into a coinflip. Yeah. No.

So yes, if I am mafia then no-shooting something I would never do.

Now let's fill in the world where you are mafia:

A. With copcake.
- You have no choice, you only have 1 KP. Rels could've been on both of you as opposed mafia as a bonus. However, I think that Rels may have been aligned with copcake. Can't remember why I think this though. I think this world is logically viable, but gut says Rels was with copcake so that means you couldn't have been with copcake. Next.

B. Not with copcake.
- I honestly think you accidentally stacked with copcake on Palmar here, or copcake no-shot (very unlikely world tbh). I don't think you held your shot because of the way you were pushing me pre-flip and the way you are fine with hard defending the shining, even though it looks like KP was missing on paper, and he was roleblocked (due to TMI).

Like I said before, I don't think your logic has been strong, so I don't think you would've understood the consequences of no-shooting versus shooting if you were mafia. The fact that you were already ready to defend The Shining makes me believe that there was no no-shoot from you, unless it's ultimate WIFOM and you were planning to let SL and myself to d the grunt work.

Now let's fill in the world where the shining is mafia:
A. With copcake.
- Copcake delivers the singular KP that they share. I feel like this can logically be a world because of the way copcake has played this game. I.e. she could've been with everyone bar Glowingbear (and myself). However, like I've said before, I feel like rels was with copcake so the shining couldn't have been.

B. Without copcake.
- Copcake delivered KP. TS couldn't deliver KP. It's a pretty straightforward world, but one that can be ridden out with the "mafia held their shot" WIFOM.

Sicklucker is mafia:
- Town loses the game.


On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:46 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:41 Superbia wrote:
Right. The town between you two will need to realize that the only way we have a chance to lose this game is if we sleep or lynch me. But whatever, we'll get there tomorrow.


There is 1 scum left. If we sleep, there would be 1 NK if you don't shoot and 3 left tomorrow with 1 scum. How is that a loss?


No. If we sleep I literally die because I'm confirmed town tomorrow (due to the fact that the game is not over). AND we lose a lynch (I can't shoot anymore). Best case scenario is that scum does not realize this (derp, but kind of likely since they didn't realize the extra lynch), SL dies (likely), and my shot means that we get a shot at a draw.


So Super doesn't want to sleep because he might die, which would actually put us in 2v1 tomorrow with a 1/3 chance of lynching scum over the 1/4 today.

However! The ironic thing here is that that situation should literally be Super's PoV today, he needs to pick the mafia between the 3 of us to win. Yet he has constantly refused to do anything towards that end. He just wants to leave it at either me or TS with his shot to end the game.

It's REALLY important to find scum today, but Super just keeps using his shot as an excuse to do nothing. The fact the he continues to do nothing to push TS or myself as mafia while claiming he doesn't want to sleep is a HUGE contradiction.


No. I pick the TOWN between the 3 of you to win. I've explained this before. Sleeping without SL's plan is superbad because it literally loses us a lynch while confirming me town and I get to leave behind a 1-lynch legacy. Versus getting 2 lynches. Yeah. I think I've explained this enough already.

tl;dr: 2 lynches > 1 lynch.


On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 02 2016 09:39 Superbia wrote:
1. Because if SL (and myself) are town I can literally kill you both. 1- lynch, 2-cpr.
2. I have specifically said that WE NEVER SLEEP HERE.
3. I literally do not really give a shit which of you two are mafia because I can shoot the other if we miss. I just have to ensure SL is town but I'm pretty sure.


Just again, very adiment about not sleeping but he isn't thinking about winning today.

How does it make sense that town!Super is more focused on the win tonight than on winning today by lynching scum? I don't know how to point this out more clearly.


Again, I COMBINE THE TWO. I get BOTH the lynch AND the shot. I'm not focused on the shot. I'm focused on both.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:15 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:08 The Shining wrote:
TTs ability is also 2 shot. Damdred me. He can't do it again.

I also already explained why scumSuper would no shoot last night as well. Knows I'm rb. Has 2 kp so only uses one, puts the missing one blame on me.


IF IM MAFIA I DONT NO-SHOOT. ITS FUCKING HORRIBLE BECAUSE IF YOURE THE OTHER MAFIA TOWN GAINS ANOTHER LYNCH.


This is a retarted way to reply. If Super is mafia obv Shining is not, sorry but Caps don't hide the fact that you are not responding to this in a way that makes sense.


I've explained above why I would never no-shoot as mafia and have shown with logic how it gains town a free flip on the shining (and copcake/GB) while not costing you a lynch. Great play as mafia. 5/7.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 02 2016 21:26 Superbia wrote:
Okay. You understand that for me the optimal way to go about this day is find 1 town instead of the mafia, right? (if I'm town)


This is a technicality, sure the easy way for a Town!Super to pull off the win, but it doesn't mean that he shouldn't try to find scum today so that he doesn't need to rely on his shot. I really REALLY think it's scummy that Super's so focused on this play that involves winning tonight not lynching scum today.


No it doesn't. I find the town to ride or die with because it allows me to focus my efforts. I could focus on either of you but logically you both fit as mafia in the world. Stop hammering this shit home, it is really, really obnoxious.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 02 2016 22:40 Superbia wrote:
Honestly I feel like I've been supertownie even without the whole dreamflower thing.

There's a good reason Palmar hard read me town while he has been able to scum-read me halfway through d1 in the past. Look at my past games.


I really dislike this post. First line reads "Yea I should be townread for the Dreamflower thing" and then he's just useing the fact that Palmar townread him as proof that he's town.

I don't see why mafia can't claim they are going to pick dreamflower and then pick something else later, it's actually a decent move to get easy towncred. Act like your going for a role that is suicide if mafia, then back down when someone suggests something else. I pointed out I had suspicions about this claim right off btw, it doesn't convince me anymore now.

Also if we wanna throw in dead players reads...
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On January 20 2016 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Super why the postering on dreamflowet and then backing out?

(Didn't go looking for that one, happened to spot it while I went looking for...)

On January 25 2016 05:12 Damdred wrote:
Yeah I already read shinning filter.

He's probably 90% town, decent activity and prodding questions. I wouldn't ever lynch him


Out of context. Pretty sure damdred's reponse was a reaction test because at that point in time I was still adamant about picking it. The only reason I let dreamflower go was because of the hilariously ingenious application of forcing a scummy player to pick it. I was pretty adamant about picking it because I loved the role and I'm pretty confident in shooting scum (100% hit rate when the shot went through btw. Also could still be 3/4 correct targets).

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 02 2016 23:02 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 23:01 sicklucker wrote:
Like do you shoot? do you hold it? you need a plan b


We'll go into the night with me confirmed town and we can discuss my shot. I'll likely shoot because I have 0 confidence in the town to make the right decision tbh.


This is a bad answer. If town he should realize that if we sleep and he shoots wrong it's game. If he thinks he's got better reads than the rest of us why isn't he sharing them and trying to convince us to lynch that person today? Only reason he'd shoot if we sleep is if he is scum.


I shoot because I have 0 confidence in the town between you and the shining to make the correct play. I can honestly see you guys just lynching SL in final 3 after these shenanigans.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 03 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote:
Also it literally boggles my mind that you're defending someone in MYLO.

On February 03 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote:
That is so un-towny.


Yea, explaining my TR on someone is un-towny. This is total BS.

Super should get lynched for this alone. Claiming that me discussing why I think someone is town in 3v1 is mafia motivated.


You know what I mean with this. Town should be super suspicious. YOU should be super suspicious. Your logic has been invalid and skewed (in the direction of me being Mafia), as I've pointed out before. Your evaluation on the shining is ???. I don't even know. You say you have a town-read on him but you said the same about me when you flipped your read on me ("Superbia is the same as he was last game we played in"). The real fact is that the shining should be your #1 suspect, or at least A suspect. But that's not what I'm getting out of your gameplay at all. Moreover, you're not even bothered by his absence or lack of contribution during this MYLO. Mind. Boggling.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 03 2016 06:40 Superbia wrote:
There is no possible scenario in which you are town. Town is never this convinced in mylo. You've put up a charade of "hmm maybe I should take a look at SL" but it's just a facade. If you were town you would be looking at everybody.

You came in today with a plan. Your post before the night reflected this. The fact that Palmar died over me in the night reflected this.


Explain how Palmar being killed explains anything? If I am scum I never let Super live to possibly shoot me. 2v1 is better for me as scum than the current situation with Super having a shot tonight. Hell anyone of Me/SL/TS as scum would have a high priority to shoot you Super, yet you are still here.


I don't think you were logical enough to realize this (shooting me == optimal play). No personal offense meant. I've had to explain this logic multiple times already, and you're still either not getting it, or ignoring it. Moreover, I've explained the KP world in which you're mafia above.

The fact that you had a huge case on me pre-flip suggests that you were planning on going on me the following day. This suggests that I'm living and that the shining could possibly be confirmed town going into the night (hence the world where you stacked with copcake being the logic one). Moreover, thinking about it, even if you did see the logic, if you expected 3kp in the night we would end up in a 2v1 anyway.

On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:
On February 03 2016 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Reading game filter. Did he flip his read at some point just to go back to it later?


This never panned out. I don't think Super ever did this.


I glanced over your filter but I couldn't really find anything substantial either way. The fact that the game was like 3/4 years ago and one of your first games (I believe), kind of invalidates any filter-logic.


On February 03 2016 15:24 Tictock wrote:I think I'm done here, kinda feel like I'm hitting on the same points over and over (also only a couple more pages to go).

I think it's really clear from Super's posting today that he is only focused on winning tonight, not in correctly lynching mafia today. The only reason why he would be discounting winning today is if he is mafia, this excuse of "having auto" is the most BS reasoning I've ever heard.

This is my last effort to show you guys why we should be lynching Super.

If I'm wrong, convince me of it. If I'm mafia, lynch me for it.


You are hitting the same points over and over, and it's annoying. I think it's clear from my posts that I'm winning, but as town. Whatever. I think I've refuted all your points with this post, and I expect to hear something fresh before EoD.

I'm not crazy about the option to sleep myself since I think scum!Super just wins then, but if that's my only choice besides lynching Shining hoping that I've been wrong on him all game... I think it's what I prefer.



this fucking post is acualy so bad and I dont think a town would ever post it


That's Super talking to his now #1 scumread. Outstanding[/QUOTE]

You've been taking what I've been saying way out of context for the entirety of the end of the day.
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February 03 2016 23:39 GMT
#5583
On February 04 2016 08:39 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 08:30 sicklucker wrote:
Like what town thinks like this fuck this game i might sheep tt afterall because im not sure and he tried so hard ^_^


What town with a shot thinks "screw this, good luck guys, I won't shoot who I think is scum(and I'm not voting who I think is scum) tonight. You guys can figure it out tomorrow."


Because you post shit like this.
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Superbia
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February 03 2016 23:40 GMT
#5586
On February 04 2016 08:39 sicklucker wrote:
why do you only try to convince tt your town and not shining


Do you even see what I have to deal with!? Like there is literally no communicating here. Everything I say is scum according to him. EVERYTHING
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February 03 2016 23:41 GMT
#5587
On February 04 2016 08:40 sicklucker wrote:
i nkwo you shut him out can you give actual evidence why


for what?
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February 03 2016 23:43 GMT
#5590
On February 04 2016 08:42 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 08:40 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 08:39 sicklucker wrote:
why do you only try to convince tt your town and not shining


Do you even see what I have to deal with!? Like there is literally no communicating here. Everything I say is scum according to him. EVERYTHING


then why dont you think its more likely the guy that jumped on tts tunnel and wont budge is scum rather then tt himself


Because TT's entire pre-night post and everything he has been doing lines up with a scum agenda to push me!
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February 03 2016 23:46 GMT
#5592
On February 04 2016 08:45 sicklucker wrote:
"I shoot because I have 0 confidence in the town between you and the shining to make the correct play. I can honestly see you guys just lynching SL in final 3 after these shenanigans."

so if i dont vote you you say your going to shoot but your not trying to figure out who to shoot?


No. I'm no longer shooting. Figure it out for yourselves.
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February 03 2016 23:46 GMT
#5594
Like literally fuck this game. Town threw away auto like god damned flowers.
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February 03 2016 23:48 GMT
#5595
Also the fact that the shining is still hammering on me even though we're likely going to sleep makes him slightly more town imo.
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February 03 2016 23:49 GMT
#5596
If we all could yolo to tictock that'd be great.
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February 03 2016 23:49 GMT
#5597
But we're not.
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February 03 2016 23:54 GMT
#5601
On February 04 2016 08:50 sicklucker wrote:
Its not fucking ticktock so i might fucking lynch you since you will probably shoot ticktock...


I don't share the same read. You better fucking win tomorrow. I swear to god.
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February 03 2016 23:55 GMT
#5602
On February 04 2016 08:52 sicklucker wrote:
The only thing saving you right now super is you saying something like "kita said ff was on his team" like its so fucking dumb for a mafia to have said that


I literally cannot believe you have flipped on me this hard.
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February 03 2016 23:57 GMT
#5604
On February 04 2016 08:56 sicklucker wrote:
fuck it im flipping a coin


NO. DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT THROWING THIS GAME.
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February 03 2016 23:58 GMT
#5606
Nobody else is even fucking here.
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February 03 2016 23:59 GMT
#5609
You were right. SL. Thank god.
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February 04 2016 00:00 GMT
#5610
I can't believe you almost did that.
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Superbia
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February 04 2016 00:00 GMT
#5612
Fuck that endgame.
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February 04 2016 00:00 GMT
#5614
TT you're a god. I meant nothing of my insults to anyone.
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February 04 2016 00:01 GMT
#5615
It's okay SL. I played way different than any of my mafia games. I don't think anyone who played a lot with me would have caught me.
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Superbia
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February 04 2016 00:03 GMT
#5621
I thought I stacked lol.
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February 04 2016 00:03 GMT
#5623
On February 04 2016 09:02 sicklucker wrote:
super you played insanely well UNTILL LYLO then you just screamed scum but I didnt wanna pull the trigger


Yeah. Probably. LYLO fucking does things with my mind and emotion. I also haven't been in LYLO as town for aeons, so I have no idea how I need to town-play it.
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February 04 2016 00:05 GMT
#5627
I felt like town did an insane job evaluating in MYLO btw. I fucking thought I had that in the bag coming into the day.
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February 04 2016 00:05 GMT
#5631
On February 04 2016 09:05 sicklucker wrote:
Like i just want to reward good play rather then avg to bad play. Thats probably why I couldnt do it even tho that woulda been an epic come from behind lynch


It's so high risk/high reward. I think I never should've lived to mylo as town though.
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February 04 2016 00:09 GMT
#5638
On February 04 2016 09:07 disformation wrote:
Team Cobra tried to shoot you N2.
you = superbia

Sick game though!


Thank god for medics! (I believe damd saved me?) :D
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February 04 2016 00:09 GMT
#5641
On February 04 2016 09:07 Vivax wrote:
Thanks for hosting and thanks to superbia for the impressive performance.


Thanks! :D Sorry for having to bus.
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February 04 2016 00:10 GMT
#5646
On February 04 2016 09:10 Damdred wrote:
I cost town the game sorta? Stupid me saving cpr medic


Well that would've saved 2 mafia in the long run.
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February 04 2016 00:12 GMT
#5649
Palmar man, I was so expecting you to hard talk me out of dreamflower. When you came in with this lazy attitude I was so scared. :D
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February 04 2016 00:13 GMT
#5653
On February 04 2016 09:01 disformation wrote:
All hail our new scum overlord Superbia!


I'll adopt you into my new scum team. :p
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February 04 2016 00:14 GMT
#5657
On February 04 2016 09:13 Palmar wrote:
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On February 04 2016 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Palmar man, I was so expecting you to hard talk me out of dreamflower. When you came in with this lazy attitude I was so scared. :D

well played dude.


Thanks man. You did really (annoyingly) well. Literally lynched my team on day 1, 2, and 3.
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February 04 2016 00:20 GMT
#5666
Well hosted GM/HtS! Thanks for answering all my questions and processing the KPs. :D
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February 04 2016 00:21 GMT
#5669
On February 04 2016 09:17 Keirathi wrote:
Imagine how much different the game would have been if I wouldn't have let Palmar bully me out of taking CPR Doc

Which was actually the main reason I decided on House, in the end. On the off chance that I would think Superbia was scum, House basically full counters that role. But I didn't think he was scum so I didn't use it that way And it probably would have gotten me lynched anyways, rofl.


That's why I KP you during n3 (or whatever it was). The day you track me is the day I get lynched.
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February 04 2016 00:25 GMT
#5677
On February 04 2016 09:23 GreYMisT wrote:
I would also like to point out for the future I don't care about language or the like in my games, I just don't like attacks on other players as players or people. I have seen too many players driven away or driven apart by this sort of behavior, and simply don't want my games to end like that. There were some transgretions but thank you all for quickly adapting to my wishes.

It was a very fun game to host. A lot of the roles turned out as I had hoped them too, but I will say that I am very sad that we lost Nigella and the Deminsional lemming on night 1. There were also a couple of roles we worked for a while on that were never actually picked. Oh well.


This game gave birth to the concept of flowers.
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February 04 2016 00:25 GMT
#5679
On February 04 2016 09:24 Keirathi wrote:
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On February 04 2016 09:21 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:17 Keirathi wrote:
Imagine how much different the game would have been if I wouldn't have let Palmar bully me out of taking CPR Doc

Which was actually the main reason I decided on House, in the end. On the off chance that I would think Superbia was scum, House basically full counters that role. But I didn't think he was scum so I didn't use it that way And it probably would have gotten me lynched anyways, rofl.


That's why I KP you during n3 (or whatever it was). The day you track me is the day I get lynched.

No, me tracking you wouldn't have said anything about your alignment. It would have just blocked your shot. Doesn't matter if your shot was from town or scum, I wouldn't have any way to know, or know who you shot.


Yeah but KP would've been visibly reduced. I also didn't know mafia KP could be held so I thought I'd just be fucked if you end up in MYLO.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 00:29 GMT
#5687
Disformation,

I play:
- BUG eldrazi control deck with Tasigur as the commander.
- BG sacrifice/recursion deck with Meren as the commander (this one is actually really disgusting).
- mono-B all-stars with Erebos as the commander (first deck).
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 00:31 GMT
#5691
On February 04 2016 09:28 Palmar wrote:
One note about the game. Almost everyone actually tried. This game was, on both sides, a quality game.


I agree. I think all sides played very well. Really enjoyable game.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 00:31 GMT
#5692
On February 04 2016 09:30 GreYMisT wrote:
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On February 04 2016 09:29 Superbia wrote:
Disformation,

I play:
- BUG eldrazi control deck with Tasigur as the commander.
- BG sacrifice/recursion deck with Meren as the commander (this one is actually really disgusting).
- mono-B all-stars with Erebos as the commander (first deck).


You have to go all out Grixis with my main man Bolas


I really wanted to make that deck at some point. Bolas is the shit. :D
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 00:38 GMT
#5698
On February 04 2016 09:35 Keirathi wrote:
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On February 04 2016 09:34 GreYMisT wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:31 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:28 Palmar wrote:
One note about the game. Almost everyone actually tried. This game was, on both sides, a quality game.


I agree. I think all sides played very well. Really enjoyable game.


Its always fun when a heavily themed game literally goes down to the perfect wire. Team Cobra could have one the previous night had copcake shot right, and town were very close to winning.

Hmm, how could Cobra have won?

Superbia was already shooting Cake. Best Cake could have done was shoot Superbia back and town would have won, right?


I was so expecting this the night before MYLO. The fucking day post took so long (relatively) to go up. I was expecting an endgame post.
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:04 GMT
#5708
Oh man, I am so relieved. I wouldn't even have been mad had town won there.
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:05 GMT
#5709
Let me know when you're hosting another game greymist! Love these games!
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:05 GMT
#5710
Though roll me into town next time. z_z
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:09 GMT
#5714
On February 04 2016 10:06 GreYMisT wrote:
Oh also, I would like player input on the following mechanics in the game

First: we actually didn't use this, but I thought it might have been interesting to give each of the Mafia team 1 "ban" they could use to eliminate a role from the list, rendering it unable to be picked. This ban would have been annouced at the start of the pick phase. We opted not to include it becuase HtS was getting bad feelings about it, I didnt care enough to push for it, and it probably would have given the scum team too much power.

Second: The mysterious challenger.



I'm not sure if it was needed in this set up. I think this game balances itself out through night KP. Don't think mafia needs an extra edge. Usually they do in PyP games, but I don't think it was necessary in this one.
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:12 GMT
#5717
On February 04 2016 10:10 geript wrote:
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On February 04 2016 09:02 sicklucker wrote:
super you played insanely well UNTILL LYLO then you just screamed scum but I didnt wanna pull the trigger

No. You just played bad.


Gimme some scumcred geript. :D

We still need to finish that pathfinder/dnd discussion thing one day. :p
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:15 GMT
#5721
On February 04 2016 10:13 GreYMisT wrote:
You guys know that I GM about 6 different game systems right? we need to have a TL mafia 1 shot night at some point.


Jesus you mad man. I have trouble balancing work and GMing 1 game.

Also yes. Very yes.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:16 GMT
#5722
I think CPR doctor was needed to balance the lynch vs kp though. I don't think it should be bannable.
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:17 GMT
#5725
TT you were actually so good. Sorry for calling your logic shit and stuff, but I had to discredit your line of thought. That pre-flip case. 100% correct.
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:17 GMT
#5726
On February 04 2016 10:17 GreYMisT wrote:
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On February 04 2016 10:15 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:13 GreYMisT wrote:
You guys know that I GM about 6 different game systems right? we need to have a TL mafia 1 shot night at some point.


Jesus you mad man. I have trouble balancing work and GMing 1 game.

Also yes. Very yes.


Well not 6 games at the same time, lol. I'm not that inhuman.

I just know the rule sets to a lot of different games. Right now I play "The Strange" with my sister and brother and some other people.


What systems do you know? Which ones are your favorite? :p
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:24 GMT
#5730
On February 04 2016 10:22 GreYMisT wrote:
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On February 04 2016 10:17 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:17 GreYMisT wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:15 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:13 GreYMisT wrote:
You guys know that I GM about 6 different game systems right? we need to have a TL mafia 1 shot night at some point.


Jesus you mad man. I have trouble balancing work and GMing 1 game.

Also yes. Very yes.


Well not 6 games at the same time, lol. I'm not that inhuman.

I just know the rule sets to a lot of different games. Right now I play "The Strange" with my sister and brother and some other people.


What systems do you know? Which ones are your favorite? :p


I can GM Pathfinder, Numenera, The Strange, Traveller, Stars without Number, Traveller (Mongoose edition), Dungeon World, Apocalypse World, Worlds in Peril, and Shadowrun (5th ed.). I can also do Maid RPG but I really would rather not call that a game.

My favorite is hard to call, they all offer different things to different types of groups. I have had the most fun with Dungeon world, Worlds in Peril, and The Strange/Numenera.

Shadowrun is a lot of fun, but my GMing style really doesnt mesh well with it. Same goes for Pathfinder.

Stars without Number and Traveller I have had a lot of fun with and enjoy, but they really depend on the right group. Both are desinged to be sandbox space adventures so the open worldness can get a bit annoying for some players


Jesus I don't even know 75% of those systems. :p Sounds awesome though. I'd definitely be up for a TL mafia oneshot.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 04 2016 01:30 GMT
#5732
On February 04 2016 10:25 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 10:24 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:22 GreYMisT wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:17 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:17 GreYMisT wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:15 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:13 GreYMisT wrote:
You guys know that I GM about 6 different game systems right? we need to have a TL mafia 1 shot night at some point.


Jesus you mad man. I have trouble balancing work and GMing 1 game.

Also yes. Very yes.


Well not 6 games at the same time, lol. I'm not that inhuman.

I just know the rule sets to a lot of different games. Right now I play "The Strange" with my sister and brother and some other people.


What systems do you know? Which ones are your favorite? :p


I can GM Pathfinder, Numenera, The Strange, Traveller, Stars without Number, Traveller (Mongoose edition), Dungeon World, Apocalypse World, Worlds in Peril, and Shadowrun (5th ed.). I can also do Maid RPG but I really would rather not call that a game.

My favorite is hard to call, they all offer different things to different types of groups. I have had the most fun with Dungeon world, Worlds in Peril, and The Strange/Numenera.

Shadowrun is a lot of fun, but my GMing style really doesnt mesh well with it. Same goes for Pathfinder.

Stars without Number and Traveller I have had a lot of fun with and enjoy, but they really depend on the right group. Both are desinged to be sandbox space adventures so the open worldness can get a bit annoying for some players


Jesus I don't even know 75% of those systems. :p Sounds awesome though. I'd definitely be up for a TL mafia oneshot.


A one shot would most lend itself to dungeon world, apocalypse world, or Numenera/the Strange (I put those together because they are connected settings with the same basic ruleset)


I've heard of the 1st and the 3rd before. Will be interesting to dive in. :D
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