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On January 13 2016 06:51 GreYMisT wrote: Remember there will be 2 days of picking numbers and roles Ok then it should be fine if it doesn't start tomorrow  | ||
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I would prefer this to start Monday so I have time to properly read the op before the role picking day | ||
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On January 19 2016 19:51 Palmar wrote: tl;dr I want a friend, who wants to be my friend? (a friend is required to be available for the next few hours). Are you gonna betray me again ? #neverforget | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:05 Onegu wrote: Koshi dumbtelling town ++ Koshi is 100% town | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:20 Superbia wrote: Protective and investigative roles are #1 priority for town. So you're OK picking one role like that if you're high on the pick list right ? | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:39 kitaman27 wrote: Setup speculation time (first person to wine about this gets mafia points!) Here is what I'm thinking for town's priority on the roles. The fact that the mafia kp has to be carried out and can be roleblocked or tracked is key. Things like jailer are especially powerful here and there are two of them! With mafia kp only at 2 after n1, the amount of rbing and protective roles can hopefully shut them down. In the past games, town always manages to shoot themselves in the foot by overlapping on their picks way too much while leaving perfectly valid roles unpicked so hopefully we can avoid that. I know everyone wants to be the sexy vig, but don't underestimate the usefulness of a protective or investigative role. The vig's just tend to end the game on day three or something, which is to our detriment in all blue setup. I think the Link mass roleblock should definitely be used at night 2. It essentially is guaranteed to stop both mafia kp and we get a free lynch from it which is really useful. I also think we should come up with a list that we should policy lynch if any player is found to have selected it. These roles are essentially only useful in scum hands. In past games, you could always do something like a denial pick or honest check by selecting a scum role in the draft to see if someone above you has picked it, but there are enough role cops that I think we can just get away with policy lynching anyone who is found with one of these. I also think we should think about a mass claim earlier than later this game, but we can talk about that once it becomes relavent. High priority: Link - several very nice 1-shots plus a guaranteed double block of mafia kp Jailkeeper - rb mafia kp, plus protect Compulsive Gambler - day vig plus detective check Holmes - Detective Moriarty - Role cop, vet, holmes interaction Captain Malcolm - Very useful to protect any town plan or leaders in general Dr. House - Track plus protect. so good Knight Artorias - Busdriver plus day vig, strong enough that I think it may be worth picking isn't of denying Ayla - Another jailer CPR Doc - super powerful The Arrow - day vig with infomation upside Medium Priority: Dr. Sy N. Tist - parity cop and protect Doctor - Always a great pick for lower tier Time Travelling Vig - delayed vig that is better in hands of town Yu Narukami - decent 1 shot abilities, might upgrade to high if I can think of a good way to abuse the Death card Dreamflower - You're likely going to kill yourself within the first few days so I think the other vigs are probably a bit better Ezio - 1 shot alignment check Tommy the Fireman - tracker and vet is nice, but relies on target living and has a risky side effect kitaman27 - :D Nice to verify a role claim or pick something up that slipped through Low Priority: Puppeteer - No offense, but your analysis skills aren't so godly that you need to hide behind a smurf City Councilman - Mayor is typically anti-town. Bodyguard isn't that great compared to other protective roles Watson - Sanity is nice to have, but meh Speaker - Not strong enough to justify Dimensional Lemming - Not as useless as some of the others, but lower on the list Copycat - depends a bunch on the first lynch Alchemist - can do better Flowey - Mafia can hide thier kp this way, might be worth bumping to lowest tier since it isn't all that great to begin with Policy Lynch: Hero - If you're getting lynched, the self-pardon isn't going to do anything positive for the game most likely PSY - Messes with checks. Maybe there is a good use for Hey, Sexy Lady that I'm not thinking off. Still say we ban this one. Janitor - heh GreYMisT - eww ???: Nigella Lawson - Too lazy to look up those abilities at the moment Werner Von Braun - Need super to translate :D kita being the first to tryhard => town. Werner Von Braun seems good: RB + day nuke + another potential KP with the Mars ability. Nigella seems super good, maybe top tier, seems like she can protect if there is a confirmed town, or investigate if not. It's even possible "purge" is a KP. On your low prio list: Watson is a doc, he's at minimum tier 2. Copycat is super good as obviously everybody will pick a good role; the meh roles will not be picked. Obviously there is a chance a mysterious challenger is the first to die, but it's unlikely stat wise I think. The rest of the list seems good. | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:43 Tictock wrote: I could see mafia claiming to go for dreamflower though, it's an obviusly pro-town role and might give them some easy cred. For whatever reason I believe Super is seriously going for it though, which is a risky move for mafia. Mafia never picks dreamflower, as they are assured to die sooner or later if they do. Anybody who picks dreamflower: - is 100% town - has strong steel balls. Knowing this, how is claiming to go for a role then picking another is "easy cred" ? | ||
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On January 19 2016 10:34 Breshke wrote: Is making everyone pick roles based on pick order really that great? For some roles you can directly hold people accountable cos announcements but for others I'm not really sure how you can tell what they are doing. Also there's the risk that mafia get the ezio role This being said I have no better alternative. Man, Ezio is kinda bad compared to others for town, but super good for mafia. Should be in the "policy" category IMO. I think directing the role distribution is super good though: - we can hold people accountable - if someone important is for example roleblocked, we have a list of person that couldn't do it - it assures town to have good roles | ||
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On January 19 2016 13:52 Keirathi wrote: Koshi's entrance and "dumb tell" things kind of piqued my interest but it's Koshi so who the fk knows with him. People always doubt dumbtells, but I've never seen mafia fake them. I'm sure it can happen, but I'm also sure it is super unlikely. What do you mean " it's Koshi so who the fk knows with him" ? Is he known for making fake dumbtells ? | ||
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On January 19 2016 21:10 Onegu wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/K9hCYSj.jpg) LOL If you can post that you can also change your number to something that hasn't been picked | ||
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On January 19 2016 23:05 Keirathi wrote: I don't really think Ezio is that good, even for Mafia. Why strip one personof their power when there are plenty of other roles that would let you kill them plus do other stuff /shrug I'm pretty sure there is some broken claim combinaisons we can do as town (the two det + Watson claim that was proposed is a good example), and Ezio destroys the first attempt at that. He's also a roleblocker. It's written "once per game", but I assume this only counts for the "destroy the ability" part, not the roleblock part. I asked to be sure. It's true that if the RB is also part of the "once per game" stuff, it's a kinda bad role; but I don't think it's the case. | ||
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On January 19 2016 23:09 disformation wrote: Isn't that exactly what Ezio does? Okay, how would this picking by pick order work exactly? Like once the pick order is established. We start with the first person to announce which role he/she wants and that has to be one of the roles very good for town? Which would also mean everyone would know everyone's role from the beginning. Another advantage would be the minimization of overlap and therefore wild card mysterious challengers in the game. Still not 100% about this, so if someone could explain a bit more in detail what the actual process of picking by pick order would entail that would be appreciated. I don't know how we could do it in details, but in general it's good for the reasons above. Especially the lack of mysterious challengers; after all, there are only 8 mafia, if everybody picks good roles, it means 14 townies has separate and good roles. I didn't count the number of roles but I assume there are more than 22. p: Now for the details, I suppose we just go down kita's tier list, like people just announce what they pick and we can talk about it. | ||
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On January 19 2016 21:16 sicklucker wrote: onegu you can have 1.1 if you pick dream flower. do you agree? if not im going to have someone take 1.1 so neither of you get it This is brillant. | ||
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On January 19 2016 13:34 Damdred wrote: It sort of does, oneg trolls in x way as town and t way as scum. Its just hard to quantify. but yeah couple town leans at this point. Since you didn't state them, can you expand ? | ||
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On January 19 2016 23:23 Breshke wrote: I'm not sure that damdred knows the actual answers you would need to ask geript i think. I also dropped it because while geript can give some nice meta reads I don't think you are going to get much from this one im fairly sure it is more of a "feelings" thing. But lets see I'm asking for his townleans p: I saw geript's "Mm can't really explain this feeling" post, seemed super townie to me. | ||
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On January 19 2016 23:29 Breshke wrote: Yep derp soz Also there is a chance FF is choosing 7,1 because i told him that was free but he never really said anything about it. Just a warning for ya Yep I saw that catching up but he didn't claim picking them. | ||
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Were you the one that proposed it first ? | ||
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On January 19 2016 23:36 disformation wrote: Biggest drawback is like scum smuggling in some roles like ezio, but that will probably be discovered after a night or two. The kita "policy" list which contains the roles we lynch if we discover people has picked them solves that. | ||
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On January 19 2016 20:57 Koshi wrote: Fuck no. We force Onegu to pick Dreamflower. Come on!!! What a brilliant idea. I know somebody wants that role but it is WAYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyy better on a lynchbait. Oh yeah. | ||
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On January 19 2016 23:04 Rels wrote: People always doubt dumbtells, but I've never seen mafia fake them. I'm sure it can happen, but I'm also sure it is super unlikely. What do you mean " it's Koshi so who the fk knows with him" ? Is he known for making fake dumbtells ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:09 Keirathi wrote: I just meant that koshi is one of those kinds of players that does things that I generally find scummy whether he is town or scum, so I have a hard time reading him. Do you think the dumbtell was scummy ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:36 sicklucker wrote: if you pick a role thats already been picked you become vt. its not my first rodeo No read the OP again Probably means you're town (= | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:39 Superbia wrote: I think you're town but this is incorrect. Again, dumbtells almost always comes from townies | ||
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On January 20 2016 02:47 Damdred wrote: Its half and half for SL dumbtells are a thing though. Kei Rels Suoer Geript Koshi SL tt to a lesser extent are my town pool currently the rest haven't caused me to remember them Why TT ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 03:05 AlotSomuch wrote: I have arrived. Skimmed through everything, tried to take note of non-mechanics discussion and failed for the most part, so no reads at this point, especially considering I know like none of you. Such is life. I put in for number 7 last night when I got my PM, which I think someone said they Might be going for but could go for a different one? Sro bro I picked that one. Read SL's list to know the free numbers. | ||
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On January 20 2016 03:35 sicklucker wrote: I have never dumb telled as a mafia... Superbia why did you say dumbtelling is not town indicative for SL here ? On January 20 2016 02:39 Superbia wrote: I think you're town but this is incorrect. Damdred same question concernening this post ? On January 20 2016 02:47 Damdred wrote: Its half and half for SL dumbtells are a thing though. | ||
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On January 19 2016 22:48 Rels wrote: Mafia never picks dreamflower, as they are assured to die sooner or later if they do. Anybody who picks dreamflower: - is 100% town - has strong steel balls. Knowing this, how is claiming to go for a role then picking another is "easy cred" ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 04:26 Koshi wrote: Rels I understand that you got misslycnhed a million times in a row lately but if you continue this I am just going to have to shoot you for trying too hard. STFU | ||
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On January 20 2016 04:33 Koshi wrote: Hey, don't be mad. It's not my fault you get lynched in literally every game I played with you D1 or D2. hahaha. Imagine how surprised I was when I saw you got votes for most improved townie. I was like: "huh, does this guy got lynched N0 when he started or something?" Yeah | ||
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You're the main force behind 66% of those mislynches p: | ||
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Life is unfair But the other one was sooo bad, I even called out the entire team and was voting scum p: | ||
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On January 20 2016 04:45 Tictock wrote: Rels I already talked a little about that, and tbh I don't think it matters. Pretty sure we both TR Super. I think it's something mafia might so, you don't. Fine. This is why I don't always flesh out my early reads btw, kus then people just nitpick at them. Do you still think your reasonning was valid ? If yes, can you explain it ? Why did you think a scum pretending to pick dreamflower was going to get town points ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 04:53 Superbia wrote: Like he doesn't do it on purpose regardless. I don't know about that, when I've played scum with SL he was like super clever about mechanics and how to handle blues / fakeclaims. Another example is the thing he's getting nominated at best play for. I think SL being doubtful about mechanics is a town tell. | ||
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On January 20 2016 05:03 Palmar wrote: that was my idea jesus. Getting sl to shoot me that is. hahaha that's the second time today I gave credit to SL for something someone else did =D | ||
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I skimmed through the thread, I'm OK taking a prot role if people don't want me to have KP. So I'll claim: I'll take Malcolm Reynolds If someone already took him, quote the post and I'll change. Otherwise, kindly shut the fuck up | ||
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Writing something before leaving I want people's opinion on. | ||
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- get a little townread - but not so much to not get shot by mistake if they are super townie Do you agree ? Starting there, we can say people that are (1) tryhard or (2) organising town are likely town: Superbia, Palmar, Keirathi, kita, SL. Agree ? Did I forget some ? The good thing about this is that even if they are scum, they have a good chance to get shot by the opposite scum team. Concerning scums that fit the two conditions above, who ? Damdred fits perfectly, he's super likely scum: got townread early and didn't do shit. Who else ? Another thing, GB and Copcake didn't submit a number right ? It's like 99% likely. This means they are probably town. Scum wouldn't forget to send a number a be at the last place of the pick order. | ||
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On January 20 2016 20:00 sicklucker wrote: 2 hour lunch break? seems legit I used to get 30 minutes That's not official but I can get away with it. p: Anyway BRB gonna get some food. | ||
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On January 20 2016 20:06 sicklucker wrote: Ya they are a lil likely town for missing it but its pretty null. Gb especially would try less as mafia and didnt have a pregame excuse Dunno about that, on the contrary I feel like he would try to pick a random number to help his team if he didn't feel like playing actively. No reaction on the rest of the post ? Gonna catch up what I skimmed now. | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:08 Superbia wrote: Wait really? That means Koshi and Ceph overlapped. If that's the truth, Ceph is scum 'cause Koshi is 99% town. | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:20 kitaman27 wrote: Since this seems to happen every game, making a post game bet with myself that at least two scum buddies picked the same number to try to throw us off :D OK I take this bet. I think it is extremely unlikely this happened. | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:41 Superbia wrote: I've also already said what role I'll be picking. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cb/be/16/cbbe1698c7ce8e6f2986cf8acdb36045.jpg) You can keep joking about it if you want, but please don't do it for real. You're the most obvious town in the game besides SL and Koshi. Picking dreamflower means you WILL die at some point without the scum needing to do anything. Unless you can get protected from dreamflower's suicide ? | ||
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sending the question right now | ||
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On January 20 2016 20:41 Breshke wrote: SL obviously sent his numbers in the scum qt and it didn't count Warning: you're one of my top scumread right now, 'cause you posted quite a lot compared to some others, but almost only talked about joke or setup. You've got a lot of hours to change that though. What do you think of what I posted above ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:40 AlotSomuch wrote: I don't really mind being assigned a role. Apparently Vayne thought I was scummy and knocked me down from number 11 to 16...so...well done Vayne? You don't care VA took your spot ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 20:43 Rels wrote: DREAMFLOWER + PROTECTION OMGGGGGGGG JUST THOUGHT ABOUT SOMETHING MORE KILL DONT WORK IF THE TARGET IS NOT SCUM WE CAN CONFIRM SCUMMY PEOPLE OR KILL THEM IF THAT WORKS | ||
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HEY BRO YOU RE SCUMMY ARE YOU REALLY SCUM ? YES BAM YOURE GONE. NO ? OK YOU LIVE. Ezzio WILL have to get picked by scum We need to counterpick him before | ||
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THERE IS A WATCH RIGHT, I REMEMBER SEEING THAT SOMEWHERE | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:52 Cephiro wrote: Pretty much. I figured since I'm aiming for a partially random role it's fairly likely I'll get it anyway, and I remembered just a bit before deadline that I might as well knock someone down a bit while still keeping myself at a fairly high pick. Just checked a few filters I hadn't been too fond of hastily and decided to bump him a bit. Intentionally took 3,2 instead of 3,1 so he'd get the pick before me in case people were gonna make a fuss about it. I mean more than one third of the game is mafia, so I figured it's not too unlikely I'll hit one even if I haven't been paying the most attention to the thread so far. I'm really sceptical about the overall thread presence and people trying to lead, and until someone shows extremely surefire signs of being the clearest of clear town, I'm not very eager to co-operate. Not really keen on giving scum any control over my actions, in the worst case. Why the FUCK would you randomly target someone ? AND YOU DIDNT EVEN DO IT PROPERLY YOU PICKED 3,2 "in case people were gonna make a fuss about it" WTF IF YOU WANTED TO BLOCK SOMEONE WHY NOT GO ALL THE WAY AND PICK 3,1 Yep one third of the game is mafia BUT KOSHI IS LIKE ALMOST CONFIRMED TOWN. You're not explaining why you targeted him in particular ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 21:01 GlowingBear wrote: They are likely town But it's pretty null :S Also, after outlaw, these suspicions are completely false. You also recently played games with me where my activity dropped because of my new job. You're probably mafia He's probably wrong but he's also probably town 'cause he's organising the town => likely to get shot by the other family if he's scum; and 'cause of the two dumbtells now. | ||
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On January 20 2016 10:02 Cephiro wrote: I agree, I'm not. But based on your understanding of my post, I'm not so sure about you. Which part of my post where I said I intentionally did it, did you not read? Why should I suddenly start following Palmar who hasn't done much to make me believe he's town, and let him take full control over what everyone should do? Screw that. Nowhere in your post did you explain WHY you targeted Koshi instead of someone else. | ||
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On January 20 2016 21:08 GlowingBear wrote: How's he organising town? The dumbtell I've seen sounds pretty fabricated He did the list of numbers people picked. What about the "dumbtell" in which he sent HTS a PM and not greymist ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 21:10 Koshi wrote: ahh I understand. Rels thinks dreamflower his sudoku can be protected. That would be broken and a really stupid mechanic to a pretty cool role. Yep. My point. We might be able to break the game. | ||
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On January 20 2016 21:10 GlowingBear wrote: Do we have a voting thread? I can't find a voting thread No idea, we don't need it right now anyway. | ||
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On January 20 2016 10:49 kitaman27 wrote: Whoops nevermind I'm dumb. Blows up visitors, not targets. XD Fuck need to check this, it would destroy the dreamflower plan. Scum would need to sacrifice to do it; it would not kill dreamflower since he would be visiting someone else; and I don't even think it kills visitor ? It's true it says "burn everyone inside the house" but it also says "killing you and your target as long as he is not visiting another player that night"; there is no mention of the visitors here. | ||
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On January 20 2016 11:14 Breshke wrote: So I am suggesting that i should pick Dr. John Watson I'm happy to pick a protective role which this is and as I am not a high priority NK I will be able to confirm sherlock and moriartys checks. Discuss no no no no I don't want you to pick Watson. He's a pivotal part of the detective strategy and I think you might be scum. I agree this role need to go to a town which is a low priority target. Like OWS ? You townread him right ? And he's picking early. Agree ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 11:55 Tictock wrote: I doubt it, but could look through his filter. What makes you think this? Yep. | ||
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On January 20 2016 14:58 geript wrote: FWIW, I don't like Rels. For having so many townreads, he's kinda wasting his time one random peripheral shit and doing nothing at all. Like I feel like I should have an idea of who he's looking at or interested in; in the least I think he should be trying to town circle a bit more and he's just kinda blah. So I suppose your read has changed now right ? On January 20 2016 15:03 geript wrote: Oh yeah and Breshke is town. Also, only Breshke should pick Watson. I think that's a really good role for him and Watson should claimed Holmes' sanity ASAP; I'm 50/50 on him claiming Moriarty's. Agree with the early claim on Sherlock. Why do you townread Breshke ? I'm voting for OWS to get the role. | ||
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On January 20 2016 20:28 Vivax wrote: 8 mafia vs 14 town, any player in here has a 36 % chance of being mafia. Every third player posting something is statistically mafia. We might as well surrender to RNG instead of trying to argue about lynches knowing that a shitton of people is lying about them. The only question in this game is which mafia team wins. As such I don't plan on pouring any effort going beyond half assed in this game. Ofc I stole kita's thunder by picking his number cause I think he's mafia (saying I don't do anything about number claiming is pretty stupid cause giving my opinion on it is already "doing something" and I had good reason not to partake in that plan where mafia has all the numbers nicely presented for their team to coordinate. What is your read on Palmar ? | ||
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DREAMFLOWER SUICIDE CANNOT BE PROTECTED SUPERBIA YOU SHOULDNT PICK THAT THEN | ||
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On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote: Yo real quick before I get back to work: Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan: 1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir. 2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh). 3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons. 4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die). Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now. | ||
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On January 20 2016 22:12 Rels wrote: Vivax what was your second number ? VA => same question | ||
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Cephiro (3,2) took Koshi (3,1) => claim here => no explanation as to why he scumread Koshi ? And it doesn't make sense it didn't pick 3,1; by picking 3,2, he knew Koshi was going before him, so he cannot deny him a role if he thinks he's scum => probably scum Vivax (4, X) took kita (4,1) => claim here => kita's attacking him is baseless, but why no target someone else that attacked him ? => maybe scum Onegu (6,1) took SL (6,1) => claim here => he wanted to mess with SL, but I didn't find any reason he scumread him ? At least he picked 6,1 so it makes sense with the "deny" mentality => slight scumlean The Shining (6,3) took SL (6,1) => claim here => he warned before deadline and SL wanted to change but failed => not a targeted attack TT (8,1) took disfo (8,1) => claim here => tone read on disfo, picked 8,1 so he could have the chance to deny disfo a role so it makes sense => maybe town FF (9,6) took Damdred (9,19) => claim here => meta scumread on Damdred and assuring to pick before Damdred => good read on a strong player, probably town VA (11,X) took AlotSomuch (11,1) => claim here => no explanation => good read though, maybe town | ||
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On January 20 2016 22:19 Superbia wrote: Meh. I kind of liked him questioning my question but that's literally all I liked. Prob slight scum-lean. He's almost only joking or setup talking. A few townreads, no scumreads. Now he wants to take watson; and watson is a super good role. | ||
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On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote: Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now. OK scum can suicide with the gambler if he votes the gambler. But that's good; 1v1 is good for town. The best thing that could happen is that both gambler and the target are scums, they are assured to not be together. The target needs to be someone we would lynch otherwise, 'cause he has a good chance to die all things considered. The target's vote target needs to be a good player we suspect is scum, 'cause it's a free check on them. Good plan all things considered (= | ||
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Why not 1 ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 22:41 Vivax wrote: I'm fine with bringing kita down in the selection but I also wanted a piece of the cake. kita 4,1 you 4,1 had 50/50% chance on both of you getting places 10/11 kita 4,1 you 4,2 had 100% on kita getting place 10 and you getting place 11 Obiously you didn't know the place number, but the principle is still the same for any placement I don't understand what you seeked to achieve by taking 4,2 instead of 4,1 ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote: Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup? I had this feeling when you "kindly" adviced me to take the number 7. You already did it to FF. Since then you did nothing but you have 2 pages of filter anyway. Who is scum in your opinion ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 23:14 Breshke wrote: I also dont udnerstand rels why you would not want me to pick watson even if I was mafia. Im 7, that is fairly high if i was mafia i would probably the highest or second highest on my team. i could probably get a role that does KP if I wanted to. I know I am not a good player especially scum player so WIFOM ALERT would happily sack myself and take down some people with me. Instead Im claiming to take watson which if you actually think about it would be perfect for someone you suspect. If i lie to sherlock or moriarty about their sanity it would become apparent very quickly. So can you explain why even if i am a mafia read me picking watson would be bad? You know that's actually super true. If you lie about their sanity we'll know pretty fast. The problems is that Watson is also a doctor, so if you're scum we're giving you a protective role, but it's better than a KP role. | ||
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On January 20 2016 23:17 Rels wrote: I had this feeling when you "kindly" adviced me to take the number 7. You already did it to FF. Since then you did nothing but you have 2 pages of filter anyway. Who is scum in your opinion ? Talking about this post: On January 19 2016 23:29 Breshke wrote: Yep derp soz Also there is a chance FF is choosing 7,1 because i told him that was free but he never really said anything about it. Just a warning for ya Like you did a kinda useless post in which you told FF to take 7, then you reminded the thread you did that one post. | ||
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On January 20 2016 23:27 Breshke wrote: No, I was telling you that you might be overlapping Yep and that seemed like a kinda useless way to post, and your filter feels exactly this way. On January 20 2016 23:27 Breshke wrote: Why is the bolded included in this post. You disagree with yourself in the same sentence what's the point? Yep I was thinking loudly. I'm OK with you having Watson actually, since you can't lie about sanity if you're scum and that's a big part of the role. | ||
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On January 21 2016 00:17 disformation wrote: Will read that gambler stuff again later. Need to step out and do some rl stuff. Have a difficult time forming reads so far, since most of the discussion is focused on setup, numbers and roles. IMO most of that stuff is pretty NAI as it can come from both sides. Some of my notes:
Also tons of ppl I can't really remember what they have done/posted so far. Should look at those, when the game starts for real. Why did you force the "capslock episode" forced ? | ||
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On January 21 2016 01:02 AlotSomuch wrote: Let me know what role to pick. I'm at work but have internet access all through the day, just won't be on every minute. I'm not going to be a high volume poster and I have trouble telling alot of you apart right now, as the names just blur together on my readthroughs. I also don't have much experience with multiple mafia teams, especially at such a high ratio, so like someone said, I'm assuming for 1/3 posters is posting with mafia motivation. I admit I don't have much to contribute at this point since I don't have any ideas which people are being difficult for reasons and which are doing it because they are stubborn/really just want to be a certain role. Just here for role madness fun and to shake off the rust. Hey Koshi! Can you think of a dream role for our young flower here ? | ||
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On January 21 2016 01:13 Palmar wrote: he's not wrong you were a little bit overexcited. But then again, maybe you simply were really excited  Wait you townread me because I was excited, but now you're saying that disfo is right saying I was overexcited. Explain ? | ||
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On January 21 2016 02:00 Cephiro wrote: I also think someone town should snipe Captain Malcolm Reynolds, will be pretty fucking hard to kill whichever mafia team drafts that one? I'm drafting that one. | ||
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On January 21 2016 01:57 Keirathi wrote: If superbia is taking cpr doc, then I'm going to random between one of Moriarty, Link, and House. Link is the most important one in those IMO. | ||
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On January 21 2016 02:47 Palmar wrote: WHAT'S THAT SCUM? YOU WERE SAYING SOMETHING? What a overblown reaction =D | ||
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On January 21 2016 03:47 Superbia wrote: Maybe give rels Werner Von Braun because I don't want that in the hands of mafia. Then palmar can be moriarty. Was thinking about taking Malcolm Reynolds, as he's an awesome doctor for both scum and town. So we deny that pick from scum, and I can heal several high profile town / confirmed town several nights in a row Kinda agree Werner is cool though. geript maybe ? | ||
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On January 21 2016 04:05 geript wrote: I'm pretty sure Palmar's scum the more he posts. Why ? | ||
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On January 21 2016 04:17 disformation wrote: Seems like Watson is already taken. =/ Wait. How did you find out ? | ||
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On January 21 2016 04:23 geript wrote: Just the mix of his reads and how he reacts. Like Keir is fucking obvious town. PalmAr's kinda being super cautious around calling people that are obvious town town. Instead he's almost pulling shitty reasons out of mid air to scumread people. He's focusing on this plan (which is NAI) but he's not really doing anything effective with it. Like Superbia's kinda run off with that. It's just more an exercise to get people avoiding having to talk about reads. Especially when the core of the pick plan really is to also discuss who we don't trust and why. I have the same reaction that you have concerning Kei. I don't understand Palmar's scumread. But I don't think it makes Palmar scum, as he could just townread Kei like a lot of other people, especially since he's number 1 pick and will get what he wants anyway. I don't agree with the plan being NAI. If Palmar wanted to lie low, he could have done just that, exactly like Damdred is doing. Instead he started something that's helping town; that's massively town indicative. | ||
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On January 21 2016 04:30 disformation wrote: Huh? As I said here: Additionally there is tons of upside if Holmes and Moriarty are in the game and they should be imo. So I kinda love the idea of being Holmes and was about to submit that pick, when I decided to double check and make sure that no one else wanted to be watson. You know since I kinda don't want to end up as mysterious challenger. So I did a Strg+F on Watson and found out Breshke wanted him.  I need you to be around for a question, tell me when you're ready. | ||
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You seem to have followed what people claimed save for two: kita said he was going to take dr something that tracks people and frame everybody breshke said he was going to take watson, I suppose you don't believe him ? Onegu suggestion is perfect (= | ||
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On January 21 2016 05:04 Cephiro wrote: I have to admit I like the idea of going dreamflower and just shooting mafia in succession. (Or failing and committing seppuku.) Good (= | ||
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If we find out some people have picked mafia-only useful roles, we lynch them Same thing if we find out they lied EZ | ||
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On January 21 2016 05:34 disformation wrote: sure. Also trying to catch up but the thread moves faster than I can read. @Palmar's plan: there are a few points where picks are like contested? Like breshke wanting to pick Watson, which could lead to FF being an ever doper MC. Still there ? | ||
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On January 21 2016 06:03 disformation wrote: Uh... I think you didn't like that idea at all first, cause you had a scum read on Breshke. Then you realized that it would be really easy to figure out if would be lying about the sanities of holmes and mortuary. Do you still think Breshke is scum? OK good p: checking if you really read the thread Yep I still think Breshke is scum | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Is Nigella going to be that strong in mafia hands? Damdred's filter is really bleh so him getting a strong role also makes me sad. Not really, unless the purge thing is a KP But Damdred should pick doc either way, and we'll see who he heals. It the doctor is weak (I think ? if he's insane) he can get killed if he heals town as scum. | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Like, compared to Moriarty, how strong is Nigella in town hands? Nigella is top tier. Like apparently she can do whatever she wants, which is a perfect tool in the hand of town. Of course we could get screwed and her ability not be as good as they seem, but really, "medicine", "watch" ... it seems straightforward. | ||
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On January 21 2016 19:47 geript wrote: Can you explain your read on Rels. You might have already I can't remember. But he was one of the few folks I was pretty sure wasn't town. Basically over doing 'active' stuff but pretty much doing nothing Are you going to be the same pain in the ass than in the personality game ? | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:17 Superbia wrote: Moriarty is a pretty bad-ass dude. Not sure if you're up for the challenge. hahaha | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:32 Breshke wrote: super weak trust is better than no trust at all. Also I understand kei's frustration not sure it is alignment indicative though Kind of bothers me that rels was all ancy about me picking watson because he thought i was scum then Palmar tells me to pick holmes and he is fine with that plan although still thinks im scum. Actually I think it's great (= that role is useless to scum. If you lie you get lynched. As long as you tell the truth you live and you confirm people. Pretty cool! | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [role list] + 1. Keirathi - house 2. Superbia - CPR doc 3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 6. geript - link 7. Breshke - holmes 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 9. Cephiro - dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty 15. Damdred - doc 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - hero 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - ??? 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) 22. GlowingBear - Flowey Copcake said she was randomed a role so I assume it means she got a mysterious challenger. If your role was stolen you need to claim it now. If you claim that after D1 we will lynch you first to check. These person need to claim what role they got: 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - ??? 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) | ||
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Cephiro is dreamflower. So we treat him as town unless we find out he's actually not. He WILL die at some point if the game lasts too long anyway. Damdred is doc, which is perfect. That means that if he's scum and he heals a townies, he has a chance to die immediately. So we should track him to see who he visits; if he visits a townie, it's a strong town indicator. If we find out he's scum later in the game, the people he visited have a super good chance to be his scum partners. Breshke is Holmes. So even if he's scum, he cannot lie without dying next. With the other tools we have, we can even find out check a claim without wasting a lynch. Now all of this is based on the fact that I believe those people picked those specific roles. They are all good rolechecks if they are both alive and still scummy later in the game. | ||
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GB claimed to have picked Flowey. Now Flowey is not a super good role, especially for scum. I think being the last pick as scum, GB would actually pick an super good role left unchecked. So we should rolecheck him; if he's not Flowey, he lied and we kill him. EZ | ||
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On January 21 2016 21:39 Koshi wrote: I have never been in a game with less info than this one. That's because you're a flower. Yep, cannot use curse words anymore. Like for example I've thought of something: Damdred is 99% town. He had the opportunity to pick Nigella at the end of the role pick phase, when OWS finally accepted to let him pick that: but he agreed to pick doc, when doc is a super bad role for scum 'cause if they heal a townie, they have a chance to die instantly. On the other hand, Nigella might not be super strong in scum's hands, but it's way better than doc. | ||
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1. He doesn't care about the game and is just going along. Scum will either do this to not attract attention, or they will try to subtly manipulate town to gain an advantage. Alot is doing the former. Here is what I'm talking about: + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2016 03:05 AlotSomuch wrote: I have arrived. Skimmed through everything, tried to take note of non-mechanics discussion and failed for the most part, so no reads at this point, especially considering I know like none of you. Such is life. I put in for number 7 last night when I got my PM, which I think someone said they Might be going for but could go for a different one? On January 20 2016 03:12 AlotSomuch wrote: Guess I'll take 11.1 then. On January 20 2016 09:52 AlotSomuch wrote: I picked 11.1, just like I said I would. On January 21 2016 01:02 AlotSomuch wrote: Let me know what role to pick. [...] Just here for role madness fun and to shake off the rust. On January 21 2016 04:50 AlotSomuch wrote: I'm fine with Kitaman27. /approved On January 21 2016 09:43 AlotSomuch wrote: I successfully got my assigned role. Going out for happy hour drinks, be back later. Absolutely no involvement in town's plan. I can understand this for the number picking stuff (just picking the next free number), but he also doesn't care about what role he gets. It's not a role he chose, it an "assigned" role, like he himself call it. 2. He got his number ninja'd by VA, but he doesn't care about it Here is his reaction: On January 20 2016 09:40 AlotSomuch wrote: I don't really mind being assigned a role. Apparently Vayne thought I was scummy and knocked me down from number 11 to 16...so...well done Vayne? Then nothing. No trying to know why VA did it, no trying to see if VA is scum targetting an easy target, or if he's town targetting his scumread. 3. Excuses. Scum love them excuses. On January 20 2016 03:05 AlotSomuch wrote: I have arrived. Skimmed through everything, tried to take note of non-mechanics discussion and failed for the most part, so no reads at this point, especially considering I know like none of you. Such is life. I put in for number 7 last night when I got my PM, which I think someone said they Might be going for but could go for a different one? On January 21 2016 01:02 AlotSomuch wrote: Let me know what role to pick. I'm at work but have internet access all through the day, just won't be on every minute. I'm not going to be a high volume poster and I have trouble telling alot of you apart right now, as the names just blur together on my readthroughs. I also don't have much experience with multiple mafia teams, especially at such a high ratio, so like someone said, I'm assuming for 1/3 posters is posting with mafia motivation. I admit I don't have much to contribute at this point since I don't have any ideas which people are being difficult for reasons and which are doing it because they are stubborn/really just want to be a certain role. Just here for role madness fun and to shake off the rust. 4. The famous scum defense On January 21 2016 12:59 AlotSomuch wrote: Yes I have not been an active poster, but others have done the same with less content and/or actually been scummy. [...] I don't expect a townread on me, but to actually suggest trying to lynch me day1 when I have an investigative role that can be used as directed tonight or later and with there being much shakier people seems odd and suspicious. I have no comments about the role picking and such, but while I think Kitoman's points about using the extra investigative roles were good, the tone I got off his responses struck me as non-town. Dunno. WHY AM I BEING SCUMREAD WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING THE SAME THING LOOK AT THEM THEY ARE BEING SCUMMY TOO He doesn't name who he's talking about. Then he says kita might be scum; if kita is scum, it's obviously not for behaving like AlotSomuch. AlotSoMuch: who are you talking about when you say "others have done the same with less content and/or actually been scummy." ? | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:23 Palmar wrote: Like for me to believe Kita is town, I have to believe Kita is a dumbass. I don't think Kita is a dumbass. But you're a dumbass too, he made a lot of sense when he said FFA players should also pick roles so we're sure we have no overlap. You saying he sabotaged your plan was super wrong. | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:25 disformation wrote: Maybe my 3 hours of sleep and the 5 cups of coffee are talking here, but I don't understand your line of thinking here. You think he is 100% town and should decide the lynch alone? Oo ++ WTF, if you think he's shady and want to remove his protection, it's useless 'cause we've got other ways to kill people than lynch | ||
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=> didn't cooperate ==> for the number pick, he targetted kita without an explanation when Palmar was the first to attack him for the same reason ==> for the role pick, we still don't know what he chose | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:31 Palmar wrote: yeah but that completely makes my plan useless because then we have no checks on mafia. But I'm not here to argue about the plan. The point is, I think he is mafia. The plan thing is very minor. I think his read progress on Vivax wasn't genuine. I think there is a disconnect between his initial role list contribution and his actual followup to that. I think there is no way he genuinely believes I'm mafia I think his filter is too short. I don't particularly think he has been very useful in figuring out mafia. Pretty sure you're wrong. | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:32 disformation wrote: Bleh, Breshke's filter is pretty stale... Mostly NAI setup stuff, here and there a line or question that could be nice, but don't see those going anywhere. I like that he was trying to make the detective trio happen. I'd like Breshke to be town so we can out-rap scum together. + Show Spoiler + So I am slightly biased, but I want to see some reads and stuff. Yep but all of this doesn't matter 'cause he's Sherlock (= he just checks someone every night: he lies we kill him, he doesn't lie we get checks. (= Onto Onegu now! | ||
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On January 21 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote: I'm just gonna write off disfo as town for effort. gj! I've been fooled by his effort before. But he's town in this game because he helped organize picks before the deadline (good town indicator), because he went back to the thread to look if someone has taken Watson when someone told him to take it (small town indicator) and because he was OK picking the doctor, which is a super bad role for scum (strong town indicator). | ||
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On January 21 2016 23:11 GlowingBear wrote: I've never claimed my role and I think it's pretty bad you want to know everybody's role. I also don't understand why is everybody claiming? The dream flower should never ever claim, that's so fucking dumb. Wait. What do you refer to with this then, if you didn't take flowey ? On January 21 2016 13:59 GlowingBear wrote: I've asked about how do I choose roles because I didn't really know. Palmar helped and I chose one of that list he made Everybody claiming means everybody can be held accountable for their actions. Why do dreamflower should not claim ? | ||
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On January 21 2016 23:19 GlowingBear wrote: You guys are discussing role and mechanics hoping this will help you find mafia when it helps nothing with the game. 99% of the time town tried to solve the game with mechanics, they lose Can we stop talking about roles and let people do what they want with what they got and stick to actually playing the game how it is intended? Did you not see some cases on Alot Vivax and kita just before that post ? | ||
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On January 22 2016 00:38 GlowingBear wrote: Is anyone townreading Sicklucker? Yep. | ||
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And read this: On January 21 2016 22:16 Rels wrote: So. AlotSoMuch is scum. 1. He doesn't care about the game and is just going along. Scum will either do this to not attract attention, or they will try to subtly manipulate town to gain an advantage. Alot is doing the former. Here is what I'm talking about: + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2016 03:05 AlotSomuch wrote: I have arrived. Skimmed through everything, tried to take note of non-mechanics discussion and failed for the most part, so no reads at this point, especially considering I know like none of you. Such is life. I put in for number 7 last night when I got my PM, which I think someone said they Might be going for but could go for a different one? On January 20 2016 03:12 AlotSomuch wrote: Guess I'll take 11.1 then. On January 20 2016 09:52 AlotSomuch wrote: I picked 11.1, just like I said I would. On January 21 2016 01:02 AlotSomuch wrote: Let me know what role to pick. [...] Just here for role madness fun and to shake off the rust. On January 21 2016 04:50 AlotSomuch wrote: I'm fine with Kitaman27. /approved On January 21 2016 09:43 AlotSomuch wrote: I successfully got my assigned role. Going out for happy hour drinks, be back later. Absolutely no involvement in town's plan. I can understand this for the number picking stuff (just picking the next free number), but he also doesn't care about what role he gets. It's not a role he chose, it an "assigned" role, like he himself call it. 2. He got his number ninja'd by VA, but he doesn't care about it Here is his reaction: Then nothing. No trying to know why VA did it, no trying to see if VA is scum targetting an easy target, or if he's town targetting his scumread. 3. Excuses. Scum love them excuses. 4. The famous scum defense WHY AM I BEING SCUMREAD WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING THE SAME THING LOOK AT THEM THEY ARE BEING SCUMMY TOO He doesn't name who he's talking about. Then he says kita might be scum; if kita is scum, it's obviously not for behaving like AlotSomuch. AlotSoMuch: who are you talking about when you say "others have done the same with less content and/or actually been scummy." ? ##Vote AlotSomuch | ||
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On January 22 2016 04:42 Tictock wrote: Lynch me today if all you care about is what my role is. That can happen. | ||
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On January 22 2016 05:33 AlotSomuch wrote: I regularly catch up on the thread between calls at work Copcake. I just have trouble telling you all apart, have no meta to go off of, and am unfamiliar with this kind of setup, so I'm coasting for the most part until role actions start happening, a bunch of people get killed off n1 making the playerlist more manageable, and I can start really playing. Did you read the while thread ? | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:47 sicklucker wrote: Actually I was thinking of making some plays with my claim by claiming tommy the fireman or something(my original choice) but If i die or something we would lose this valuable information so ill just hard claim my role now. Im a mysterious challenged (acualy a nice role I was not lying about that) I checked Knight Artorias, the Abysswalker he is in play mafia has him Fucking fuck. We cannot kill Alot then. Alot checks Artorias and we protect him. kita checks Alot to see if he's really kitaman. | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:50 sicklucker wrote: wait did i miss something about alot? did he claim it? Yep he said he picked his assigned role following Palmar's plan, which was kitaman. | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:51 kitaman27 wrote: It's extremely likely that either Vivax or TT has the busdriver based on the role claim list. I'd say probably Vivix. fuck | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:56 kitaman27 wrote: Well I mean mafia has a busdriver so I'm not sure how reliable night checks are going to be when we publicly claim a plan like that. I don't think kitaman's power is affected by busdrivers. You're pretty cool p: If you mean the tracks on roleblockers, OK. but that would mean scums got a roleblocker + arthas + a busdriver. We can kill them easily is that happens to be true I think ? Cannot be too many RB + busdrivers | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:56 sicklucker wrote: no we dont. IM TELLING YOU HE IS IN THE GAME we already know art is in the game. why would we waste kitas role on that? We need him to check someone less trustworthy to see who picked off the plan because that person has artorias. Im obviously not going to fake this rofl kitaman tells who picks the role ... | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:06 Keirathi wrote: There's a small flaw in the plan to figure out who artorius is using the kitaman role: it might not be able to be busdriven, but it can certainly be roleblocked. If Alot did actually pick kitaman, there are a couple of scenarios: 1) He's town. Someone on one of the mafia teams picked artorias. If they have any way to roleblock him they probably will? I don't think anyone took Yu for the anti-roleblock, right? 2) He's mafia WITH Artorias. He can just claim he was roleblocked forever. 3) He's mafia on the other mafia Team. Probably the best case scenario, becuase it has the lowest chance of being roleblocked, and if it isn't roleblocked he doesn't have any reason to keep the result to himself. Yep. So let's just say trackers should track roleblockers / watchers should watch alot. No more precision, there cannot be a million busdrivers. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:09 Superbia wrote: Nah I think this is a trap. We shouldn't put our eggs in a basket that is very very likely to be mafia. True. We can simply avoid the guy by just sticking to the lynch and not shennannie (until a point anyway). | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:16 Tictock wrote: While I don't exactly approve of the mass claiming, I will admit it is kinda useful. So thanks for that Kita. I did exactly that earlier. You know because you've quoted it: On January 22 2016 04:42 Tictock wrote: Lynch me today if all you care about is what my role is. Why did my list not get that kind of reaction ? | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:18 AlotSomuch wrote: That was sarcasm. Vayne had posted that he was going to try and snipe someone he read as scum. He apparently read me as scum off two posts, one of which was admittedly not great. It was a sarcastic congratulations on moving me down 5 or 6 spots. I was TOLD I was going to be assigned a role by the guy organizing everything, which I didn't have a problem with and went along with. I just wanted to be told what role, so if I had any huge objections I had time to argue against it. I didn't have any issue with the role. I've said multiple times I won't have much input for your on the glorified Night 0 before the game actually started, haven't changed my story on that. I didn't say I shouldn't be lynched. I said I seemed like a weird choice for a day 1 lynch before there is even a chance to use the role I was assigned, which is a one use only anyway. Did you read the whole thread ? | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:28 AlotSomuch wrote: Oh. No I hadn't caught up all the way yet. My understanding of my role is it is a one use, cannot be bus-driven, if I pick abysswalker I will be told who has the role unless I am killed or roleblocked. So a watcher on me would net us a scum in any situation, wouldn't it? That's a good answer at least. I think you're scum for a lot of reasons you can't really defend against since you've only done scummy things the whole game. If you're more interested by my reasons than you were with VA's suspicions, it's in my filter maybe 10 hours ago. I want to lynch you right now but you've got a good 1-shot role. So please be useful. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:33 Superbia wrote: I think you should always declare your target so we/others don't stack and so we get a confirmed town if you die. He said he would claimed his target 5 sec before deadline. That's the best thing to do IMO. If he claims before scums can mess with him (RB, prot on target comes to mind). | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:35 Superbia wrote: Rels you are my mason buddy. (= If you're scum I'm going to be really mad. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:36 sicklucker wrote: so basically im the mayor tormorow and i pick the lynch because no ones dumb enough to vote me (i hope). So because of this I wont be talking about my reads too much to avoid roleblocks Cool. That's 1 mysterious challenger role claimed, and it's a easily verifyable power. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:39 Superbia wrote: Meh. I think SL was already town though. I kinda wanted him to claim last. True. | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:41 CopCake wrote: This is so confusing what do you mean with "other team" ? Did you read the whole thread ? | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:44 sicklucker wrote: in because i challenge super to a duel Your power is so weak we don't even have to kill either of you (= | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:52 Fecalfeast wrote: I liked rels' case on alot but his thought process about the abysswalker/watcher combo is towny and I like it. There is a problem in that sentence ? | ||
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On January 22 2016 11:17 Tictock wrote: Right place right time. His list helped me check on a couple of peoples claimed roles I happened to be wondering about without digging through a bunch of the game. Also he's better looking than you. I thought you were scumreading him ? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [role list] + 1. Keirathi - house 2. Superbia - CPR doc 3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 6. geript - link 7. Breshke - holmes 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 9. Cephiro - dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty 15. Damdred - doc 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - hero 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - Mysterious challenger (Cyrus) 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger (???) So we still don't know: 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 19. Onegu - ??? 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger (???) Only Copcake agreed to disclose her role so it's good if she claims last out of the mysterious challengers. | ||
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So there is a very good chance it's Vivax TT or Onegu. Let's murder Vivax today. Won't vote until everybody is OK to do that though, we dont want to activate Artorias power. | ||
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On January 22 2016 22:28 Palmar wrote: oh he actually tried artorias Well fuck it, then we're murdering someone who took it out of order. Yep. We were killing liars before anyway, but now it's even more important as a liar is probably Artorias. | ||
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On January 22 2016 22:29 Palmar wrote: what is alot going to do with his role? Know if Artorias is in game (confirming SL claim) and know what person got it. | ||
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On January 22 2016 22:30 Palmar wrote: Also to everyone who thought kita's additions to my plan were not smart. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE CHECK PLAYERS It worked right ? p: SL did exactly that. We also have Moriarty to check if people really took their claimed role. | ||
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On January 22 2016 22:31 Palmar wrote: it seems bit of a waste (even if it isn't, are we gonna believe alot over sl? I don't really think so) Alot claiming "XXX is Artorias" gives us a confirmed scum (either XXX or alot). | ||
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On January 22 2016 22:35 Palmar wrote: I have no idea, but I need to at least get to the night to submit my list. Oh it's only one guy on your list. Weak hero p: | ||
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On January 22 2016 22:43 sicklucker wrote: I SAID dont use his role to check if artaris is in the role. Because you already fucking trust me and why would I lie. Its in the game. Check someones role like gerpit see if links in the game for example and if its not then hes the artaris. If you just use it on artaris it will say what I already told you whats the point? you already town read me. Use it on a suspects role It will gives us the name of the guy that has it. | ||
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On January 22 2016 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm on phone so I can't double check the entire thread, but has Vivax done anything all day? I'm relatively willing to switch my vote to him tbh. No. A few posts that were useless. | ||
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Actually rereading them this might very well be a busdriver taunt: On January 21 2016 19:46 Vivax wrote: Koshi is there anyone in this game you really want dead. I know someone said this yesterday. | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:11 Vivax wrote: weekend starts now for me so ill do stuff when i get home. I picked dimensional lemming, means we can have 2 lunches tomorrow. Why did you not follow Palmar's plan ? | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:12 disformation wrote: Just got up. Super groggy. Not sure why this is a busdriver taunt? Like he can only kill, after escaping a lynch or being the last scummer. He could redirect one of werner's rockets, but I remember werner having like tons of RB or other rockets, so ??? I was thinking about bus driving Koshi and the person he named, so Koshi RB himself. You're right it's probably not indicative since it's not a KP. | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:15 VayneAuthority wrote: yea lets lynch breshke, I have to agree with one of my top mafia reads here Why do you wanna lynch a role that gives good info if he doesn't lie and is easily catchable if he lies ? | ||
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I checked kita too and you didn't follow it either. Why not follow either of them ? | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:11 Vivax wrote: weekend starts now for me so ill do stuff when i get home. I picked dimensional lemming, means we can have 2 lunches tomorrow. | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:24 Vivax wrote: cause contrary to you i have no intention of being palmars shoe cleaner/slave in a pyp game. i pick whats fun for me. but you can keep being his little toy (which i eill try to establish if its with the intention to pocket him, and despite the effirt he can still be mafia too That's not the kind of attitude you had in season of the witch. On the contrary, you were OK following plans and were happy to coordinate town to try to win. | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:30 Superbia wrote: I like the idea but seems very unreliable. Agree. | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:33 Palmar wrote: although kita, if you graciously offer yourself lynched to save vivax, then I'd be okay with that. =D | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:33 Palmar wrote: Like vivax is 110% mafia. He does not have this attitude as town. There's just no way. Yep. | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:38 kitaman27 wrote: Do you guys know who serves under Lord Palmar? KNIGHT ARTORIAS But I thought Palmar was a hero ??? | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:45 VayneAuthority wrote: You have claimed to not read the thread, 1 or 2 people have threatened shots on me already in addition to quite a few people in this game that don't like me, it is very likely I agree with them. You pick a role that has zero value for town. You can die tonight. | ||
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On January 23 2016 02:27 Vivax wrote: Voting 1gu with koshi, how it goes it goes and I did my part and gave reads. I could pull out the get out of jail card if you give me 1 extra cycle to bleed town like I do when im town, but since I'm standard d1 lynch option in most games no matter my alignment I just won't care and let you lynch tomorrow's double lynch. LOL you are so scum. No way this is a town mentality. | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote: Also. Now that I think about it. Are we sure that the abysal dude is mafia? Or did sicklucker just say that because he is salty? Read the role and tell me someone wanting to help town would pick it. Kinda the same deal that for VA, except we cannot lynch VA with his role. | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:27 Tictock wrote: I'm sorta around. Least checking in. Though at this point it looks like we have to lynch Vivax. Did you scumread kita when you said his list was cool ? | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:41 Tictock wrote: Like I said it was just right time right place, didn't really matter his alignment. Why should it matter that I thanked him for something that happened to be useful to me? If he's scum I think it's more likely he'd make sure his list is near perfect. can you answer the question ? | ||
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Then why did you say Palmar's points against kita were valid not long before ? Like you even scumread me for brushing them off here: On January 22 2016 05:07 Tictock wrote: Aww Rels, and I was townreading you too. Why'd you have to go and blow off pretty valid points like this? So you must have thought there were super good points. Yet you nullread him ? | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:45 Tictock wrote: Paranoid thought though, what if SL has just been leading us on with the assertion that Artorias got picked to push people to claim? We will know at some point, maybe even D2. | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:49 Tictock wrote: I was disappointed in your response. If you disagreed with his points, why did you just blow it off? Cause I think kita is town and I don't think these points make kita scum. Apparently you did too, since you nullread him after that; if you don't think these points make kita scum, why do that matter to you ? | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:53 Rels wrote: Cause I think kita is town and I don't think these points make kita scum. Apparently you did too, since you nullread him after that; if you don't think these points make kita scum, why do that matter to you ? That doesn't make sense. You scumread me for not responding to points, while not thinking the points make kita scum. | ||
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On January 23 2016 08:02 Rels wrote: That doesn't make sense. You scumread me for not responding to points, while not thinking the points make kita scum. TT can you explain this ? Cause I'm not seeing the logic there. | ||
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On January 23 2016 08:21 Tictock wrote: Yea for some reason you think my read on Kita matters for those things. I don't get it either. If YOU think Palmar's points make you kita null, WHY THE FUCK does me thinking these points don't make kita scum amkes ME scum ? | ||
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On January 23 2016 08:44 disformation wrote: Hmm... you are right. Doesn't actually matter here. You are mysterious. (which kinda sucks). fuck | ||
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On January 23 2016 08:45 sicklucker wrote: if ffs lying about his role why are you with holding this? you confirmed him yourself ... | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:00 Koshi wrote: Knew it from the start. Fuck you | ||
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On January 23 2016 08:33 Rels wrote: If YOU think Palmar's points make you kita null, WHY THE FUCK does me thinking these points don't make kita scum amkes ME scum ? | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:10 Fecalfeast wrote: so if I read it correctly I could just check myself all game to be difficult since I'd get the same results? You should probably clarify that point with the hosts but that's what I udnerstand too. | ||
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Onegu needs to die, and he needs to die today. Lynch, nuke, KP, I don't care. The guy picked the main mafia role in the game and made us waste Alot's check. KP / nuke is better IMO so we can talk about something else. | ||
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I agree with Koshi that whatever the alignement kita is, his check is real. If he's scum, he wants to help his team by lynching a guy from the other team, that happens to be a vet. But he's like 99% town. Why, as mafia being super suspected, would he take the time to interrogate his red check before revealing it ? He would claim his red check immediately to ... well, avoir what happened exactly. p: Whatever though, I don't think there is any way to save him. FF should definitely be the lynch, it's the only way to deal with him as he's a vet. | ||
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kita => )= Palmar => I don't really need to exlain this one I think ? He's pushing the game forward, he's way more involved than in the outlaw game where he did the minimum to survive / be townread (that includes that burst of activity the day he was almost lynched, if not for that he was dead), he lead a lynch on scum D1. 100% town. Superbia => He was the first reason town got organized this quickly, before Palmar made the plan. He's involved in everything. Damdred => I should scumread him for his behaviour (to put it bluntly, (1) being bad and not giving town list like usual unless when asked and (2) being only active at deadline when it matters), but he picked doctor. He picked doctor when he had the opportunity to pcik Nigella. Doctor is a terrible role for scum, as they have a chance to die if they target scum. For this alone, Damdred has a good chance to be town. disformation => He helped town a lot before the picking phase deadline to make sure nobody overlapped. In particualr, he was concerned town got invesgative roles, which scum wouldn't like. He was OK taking doc which is a terrible role for scum. Finally, the excitement when he thought he found a scumslip with TT's RB claim was super townie. Keirathi => Every post of him is townie. He was super involved during the first phases, in which scum might be afraid to appear too townie in fear of eating a bullet from the other team. He picked a role that is kinda bad for scum; he was the first pick and could picked anything, yet he picked House. SL => I'm pretty sure this guy is town only with the two dumbtells. Nothing he has made since had me change my mind. Koshi => The opposite of SL. I was pretty sure this guy was town because of a dumbtell, but his attitude since then is so bad I started thinking he was scum hiding behind trolling to get away for not posting a lot of serious thing. But the fact that he roleblocked TT makes him town I think. If Koshi was scum, he could have used any of his other abilities to help his team instead of trying to stop a KP. Like put a bomb on a strong townie like me or Palmar, or go to Mars with a teammate and someone to lynch. Copcake => her not picking a number or a role alone makes me think she's town. Especially the role; she was almost last pick, she could have picked anything she wanted. Of course if she is not shovel knight we kill her instantly, but her claimed role is confirmable; plus she claimed when some people didn't claim yet, so if she's not shovel knight she took the dumb risk of being counterclaimed. In addition to that, she is not posting a lot, but I can see her train of thoughts each time she does so. If you're not on this list, that means you are one of: FF Onegu GB TT Alot Shining That means I'm automatically wrong on at least own town since there are 7 scums left p: but I'm pretty sure most of this list is scum. | ||
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Here you asked who's got a role kita is talking about: Shining replies to you, and you've got to have seen the answer since your replied to it: On January 24 2016 07:30 GlowingBear wrote: Because I've already said I'm not keeping up with the thread and that I will only have time to play better next week? So why are you asking about kita's role here, when Shining already answered it earlier ? On January 25 2016 01:36 GlowingBear wrote: What's kita role? | ||
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Only useless stuff, nothing to help solve the game. A thousand questions that could be easily answered, which is making this quote super funny: On January 25 2016 01:28 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi have you ever thought about reading a setup and thinking about it BEFORE joining a game? I think you're lying about your role too, since you claimed to try taking Moriarty and FF (Moriarty) is 99% scum. | ||
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On January 22 2016 05:33 AlotSomuch wrote: I regularly catch up on the thread between calls at work Copcake. I just have trouble telling you all apart, have no meta to go off of, and am unfamiliar with this kind of setup, so I'm coasting for the most part until role actions start happening, a bunch of people get killed off n1 making the playerlist more manageable, and I can start really playing. I hope that happens sometimes. | ||
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On January 25 2016 04:56 disformation wrote: Agreed GB's filter is a steaming pile of flowers. Not sure I agree on your Damdred TR. Like 70% of his reads are from Day 0. Yeah, he gets some cred for being okay with the Doc, but as you said his other activity doesn't look very town to me. Dunno, 1/3 chance to instantly die if targetting town doesn't seem like a bet scum would want to take if they had other options, like Damdred actually had with OWS being OK to let him go Nigella. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:03 Tictock wrote: The interesting thing here is that Koshi never shared his scumread on me and only become concerned about me being scum when I started pushing Koshi as scum. He wasn't trying to RB me just to stop KP, he was RBing me because he was concerned might be sending KP his way. At least that's how I am interpreting that action. It adds up too, look at how concerned Koshi is about survival even though he keeps saying town is fucked this game. I also think it's interesting that Koshi didn't nuke one of his own scum reads (like me), but nuked Kita instead. Anyways, we can discuss Koshi later. Lynching the red check does seem like the best/only option right now. ##Vote: Fecalfeast Seems logical to me to roleblock someone you scumread without saying you scumread him. If Koshi (as a RBer) would say he scumreads you (his RB target), there would be less chance of you carrying KP if you're scum. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:06 Damdred wrote: You guys make me blush talkin bout me. I'm disinterested in today because red check and having no vote so meh. Happy being town by the virtue of picking a role ? (= Can you read Shining's filter and give your opinion on it ? You're super good at reading him. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:12 Damdred wrote: Yeah I already read shinning filter. He's probably 90% town, decent activity and prodding questions. I wouldn't ever lynch him If you're right, I'm wrong on at least two of my townreads. Who would be these two in your opinion ? | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:48 The Shining wrote: BH is a mysterious challenger role. Blazinghand (New - TL Mafia Ban List) You are Blazinghand, The Chosen, Wielder of the Sacred List, and He Who Guides The Newbie. Twice per game during the day phase (ability activates after the end of day), you may recommend that a player be banned. Unfortunately, you took over the banlist in the shadow of the Great GMarshal, He Who Sees All Things And Wields The Mighty Hammer, and your power is not absolute. The player you targeted may choose to either take a 'warning' (and be roleblocked for the following night phase and the following day phase) or 'sitout a game' (that player's vote during the following day phase is not counted). If the player chooses neither (either out of choice or because they are roleblocked) they will be BANNED. A banned player will have their vote stolen and added to your voting power for the following day. Cop, GB, Onegu, TT haven't claimed roles. And 3 of them claimed Mysterious Challenger. Cop, GB, TT. He looked BH's role in the OP and quoted it in the thread. So he should be well aware of what he does. But in the night he posted this: On January 23 2016 10:38 The Shining wrote: Ahhh they have to be on the list first. Do it tomorrow. Someone protect Palmar. Sucks our claimed Doc can't. Meaning he thought BH's role automatically roleblocked Damdred. Meaning he didn't really know what BH's role does. This means Shining posted BH's role description to only appear helpful, without really reading it. Why would he do that as town ? Knowing what abilities in action do is essential to solving the game. But if he's scum and Damdred is town, he either: - (1) doesn't really care about it, so he didn't read it carefully; or - (2) lied about not knowing the role so protection would stack on Palmar | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:26 The Shining wrote: I shot AlotSomuch. Hesitant to claim it because I'm not sure if it can be RBd or protected tonight, or if it had to be done when I first shot. Why the fuck would you not find that out before posting ? | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:28 Damdred wrote: I don't see how you can have a tr on cupcake I think Rels. Besides that not sure a bit hard. Unless she's lying about it, not picking a role is not something scum would do. And I don't think she lied about it since she claimed her full role (not just mysterious challenger), and it is checkable role. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:30 The Shining wrote: What Damdred said + bolded. I took it at face value and thought he was going to keep his vote, since he literally said he was blocked. OK that makes sense. Your post is only 20 minutes after Damdred's one too. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:33 The Shining wrote: Why the flower* I assumed it would have to happen the same night I put in my action and I didn't get RBd or anything and no one claimed protection on him so I took a chance. Doesn't explain the question. Why assume when you can be sure, especially since you have like 50 hours to PM hosts before your shot happens ? | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:41 The Shining wrote: Because I'm dumb and not used to having roles and saw I was asked to claim my shot and it didn't click in my head until I was posting but I didn't wanna lose my post cuz mobile posting sucks. Is this AI to you? No. Because HTS said that the shot could be protected the night it arrives. It feels like you lied about your role, and now you have an excuse if alot doesn't die, something like "Oh I shouldn't have claimed my shot beforehands, how dumb of me." | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:41 Damdred wrote: Not sure why scum wouldn't do x with roles. Its not a great role for scum to be the dimensional lemming but he was. And cop was pretty afk up to that point so wouldn't it be nai over town indicative. Yeah but Vivax chose his role, and it makes sense with the situation he was in (potential D1 lynch): it gave him an out by saying "you're dumb lynching me when I can confirm my role tomorrow". Copcake just didn't chose anything. It is town indicative because scum would just pick whatever his team told him to. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:52 Damdred wrote: How many claimed medics do we have in the game exactly? 3 I think ? Me you and disfo; + kinda superbia. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:54 Damdred wrote: But why is that town indicative when cake could of just not been here? Because an AFK scum would post in his QT "what do I pick" => 5 minutes maybe. An AFK town that is last pick would have to read the thread to see what to pick => impossible in a few minutes. So town is more likely to not send anything IMO. | ||
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On January 25 2016 05:56 Damdred wrote: I just looked at the pick order, and it's so nai it's not even funny What does it have to do with the pick order ? | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:00 Damdred wrote: And who's to say cop didn't try to pick something and SL or some on ninjas it or the other scum team got it? OK that is very true. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:01 The Shining wrote: Interesting. When and where did she say this? Because I couldn't find it in her pre game posts. And why is your answer No, it isn't alignment indicative in the same post that you're thinking I lied about my role? On steam 10 minutes go when I asked her the question. I thought your question was "Is this alright to you?", didn't think AI was Alignement Indicative. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:11 The Shining wrote: Well ain't that a flower. I will confirm or deny this once one of the mods PM me back. Look on the bright side. Maybe the enemy scum team is the team able to protect him and won't bother. Well, if you're telling the truth I don't think anyone is going to protect him, 'cause if tracked / watched it's 2 scums found. p: My problem is maybe you didn't shoot and you will try to push a alot + protecter team when there is no kill. What's good about it is that it can be over if alot dies tomorrow. (= | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:14 CopCake wrote: Wtf is this shit? Dude Kitaman can be fucking mafia outing mafia -________- yo I'm in your filter and I'm reading the weirdest scumread ever on Koshi. He's scum because he remembered he played a game of voice mafia with you ? Well what do you think of him: - nuking a scumread of your scumread - roleblocking TT when he could have use another ability to help his team ? | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:16 The Shining wrote: Lol I love + hate you for this. I wonder if it's really worth watching him. It would be if we catch a protecter but that's not up to me. Chances are he'll die so meh. We'll see (= | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:21 disformation wrote: Fixed. You are welcome sweethearts. I beginning to think it was a bad idea to launch this trend. p: ^ (casual brag) | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:25 The Shining wrote: Well what the flower did you expect? Busted. OK it was entirely a brag post. (= | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:28 CopCake wrote: Dude did you read I had another case on him besides that one? And guess who was up in my ass for it? FECALFEAST, wait let me check if it was him or shining, their names are kinda similar. ![[image loading]](http://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lspfkbuczg1qcczo8o1_500.gif) and to answer you: - 2 mafia teams, koshi could be in one and kita in another one, duh - TT could be in other mafia team with kita, duh You are not considering everything, are you? True on the first answer. Don't agree on the second, the problem is not roleblocking the other team or whatever, the problem is that as scum, his other abilities would have given him more benefits than a RB. Why did he not plant a bomb on someone or go to mars with a partner to kill a third person if he's scum ? | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:29 CopCake wrote: Actually if you actually read my filter rels you would have seen that I ANSWERED that question before You mafia dude pretending to look for suspects? OK you're right. On January 24 2016 07:50 CopCake wrote: His attitude overall, the whole "Oh I hate this game", pretty pessimistic yet being pretty active, there is no fucking reason you would dislike a set up and yet be fucking active. I think he is fake and is fucking acting. If I was scum looking for suspects I wouldn't give you a chance to answer. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:35 CopCake wrote: I dont get this: "Don't agree on the second, the problem is not roleblocking the other team or whatever, the problem is that as scum, his other abilities would have given him more benefits than a RB. Why did he not plant a bomb on someone or go to mars with a partner to kill a third person if he's scum ?" Koshi is this role: + Show Spoiler + You build rockets, ja? You build most excellent rockets. You do notz care vere dese rockets come daun, dat eez not your department. You may launch wan of ze following rockets. You have many V1 rockets, but only 1 of the others. You may only use 1 rocket per night. V1, V2, V3, Titan II, or Atlas V V1: vat a panzy leetle rocket. Not efen a real rocket at all, ja?! Zis rocket vill land on somevan's head and knock him unconscious and incapable off doing ennysing at all zis cycle (At night, you may fire this rocket at a player to roleblock them) V2: a masterpiece off modern ingenierung! Vat ein marvel! Zis rocket vill easily flatten all of London, bwahahaha! Traurig, London is not in zis game.You pick ze target for zis rocket and iv you die, it veel explode, killing whoever it vas above! (Mad hatter, you can change your rocket’s target every night) V3: Nein nein nein nein nein! DaB ist also not ein rocket!!! It is just ein very big gun. I refuse to shoot guns, zey are for sissies! make somveone else shoots ziz rocket ja? (You may use this rocket at any time before the ½ of the day is done and rig the notification to show that someone else is nuking a player of your choice, it will do no damage) Titan II: kaboom baby! Dis is ein schones ICBM! Nuclear launch detected, jawohl!!! Nukes someone, dealing 1 kp at the end of the day. Use by PMing a host a nuke target with ½ of the time left in the day. The thread will be notified that you are firing a nuke at your target. (ziz cannot ve used day von ja?) (this cannot be used day 1) Atlas V: ve vill go to Mars, ja? Ve vill make new colony on Mars! Launches Werner von Braun and 2 persons of choice into space. This will open a QT for these 3 people. Because they are in space, their votes take a while to arrive, so they only have time to send in 1 (you and the players you send to mars may not vote switch). The Next night the ship arrives on mars. Whoops, Mars is boring and there is only space for 2 people to return to Earth. Closed voting system at night for who returns to Earth. Other 1 dies like Cohaagen in Total Recall. While in route and on mars, the players may not be targeted (they can still be lynched). You yourself cannot use your abilities while in route and on mars, because you need to fly the spaceship. There will be an announcement about the players launched and that they cannot be targeted. So he could have RB OR use another ability, like planting a bomb or going to Mars, which would have been more useful. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:36 sicklucker wrote: guys does it not make more sense to just see what kita flips before we lynch ff? he wouldnt be the first mafia that lied you know. hes probably not lying but why not wait? Cause whatever his alignement is, the check is like 99% true. If he's town, well, the check is true. If he's scum, it's in his best interest to lynch the other team with so many dead townies. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:40 CopCake wrote: Can you answer me this rels? Because I dont get it for real. Also can you hit me or something? As far as I know the game is about to prove something. Unless you are Holyflare. I answered this just above. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:44 CopCake wrote: To be honest reading koshi's role gave me a headache and only got he can make different rockets. Well then listen to this (somebody will call me out if I lie): Koshi has day actions that we don't care here. At night he can do one of these things: - RB someone - plant a bomb on someone, so that someone blows up if Koshi ever dies - open a QT with two other players, these three players have a majority vote to kill someone Reading more closely I saw that he couldn't use this last ability D1. But why would he RB someone instead of planting a bomb on a strong townie / role ? | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:48 Rels wrote: Well then listen to this (somebody will call me out if I lie): Koshi has day actions that we don't care here. At night he can do one of these things: - RB someone - plant a bomb on someone, so that someone blows up if Koshi ever dies - open a QT with two other players, these three players have a majority vote to kill someone Reading more closely I saw that he couldn't use this last ability D1. But why would he RB someone instead of planting a bomb on a strong townie / role ? Actually I misread, it was the nuke that couldn't be used D1, not the QT one. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:56 The Shining wrote: Hrm. Do we have an RB for Onegu tonight? If not, bus driving could be a pain in the flower again. I'm really not happy about losing Linkript. At least Koshi. | ||
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On January 25 2016 07:06 sicklucker wrote: the problem is koshi thinks onegu is town because he saved him. That acualy means nothing tho He called for his head like the whole D1, that was like the only serious thing he did ? | ||
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On January 25 2016 08:53 GlowingBear wrote: Rels why is CopCake town for not picking a number and I'm not? You were at some point: On January 20 2016 20:01 Rels wrote: Another thing, GB and Copcake didn't submit a number right ? It's like 99% likely. This means they are probably town. Scum wouldn't forget to send a number a be at the last place of the pick order. Then copcake didn't pick a role and you did, so the similitude with your attitudes ends here. In addition, your filter means you are 100% scum. If you ask me that question, it means you read my big town list I made yesterday. How did you miss that post that is literally the next post in the thread ? On January 25 2016 04:37 Rels wrote: GB please explain this: Here you asked who's got a role kita is talking about: Shining replies to you, and you've got to have seen the answer since your replied to it: So why are you asking about kita's role here, when Shining already answered it earlier ? | ||
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On January 25 2016 09:27 Koshi wrote: Yes but I have now many+1. Because you are mafia. read the small letters at the bottom of my role pm. LOL | ||
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I'm super disappointed by your understanding skills! He said he got one more rocket because he roleblocked a scum (TT), so now he has many rockets + 1. | ||
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On January 25 2016 19:51 Palmar wrote: I got that But I don't get why blocking scum gives him more rockets. It doesn't. That was the joke. | ||
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On January 25 2016 21:41 GlowingBear wrote: I still didn't pick a number, and not doing it was the reason you townread her, not because she didn't pick a number nor a role. What part of "especially the role" did you not read ? On January 25 2016 04:29 Rels wrote: Copcake => her not picking a number or a role alone makes me think she's town. Especially the role; she was almost last pick, she could have picked anything she wanted. Of course if she is not shovel knight we kill her instantly, but her claimed role is confirmable; plus she claimed when some people didn't claim yet, so if she's not shovel knight she took the dumb risk of being counterclaimed. In addition to that, she is not posting a lot, but I can see her train of thoughts each time she does so. And if you had read the thread, you would know that I don't actually think that anymore, since it's possible that Copcake tried to pick a role and got denied. | ||
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On January 25 2016 22:03 GlowingBear wrote: "OR" =\= "AND" Anyway I won't push this matter further since it is kinda weak but I still find suspicious that you had that double standard. You didn't pick a number. Copcake didn't pick a number and didn't pick a role. I townread Copcake because she didn't pick a number and she didn't pick a role. Especially because she didn't pick a role. You picked a role so that line of though is not applicable to you. ??????????? | ||
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On January 25 2016 22:22 GlowingBear wrote: No, you townread her because she didn't pick a number OR a role (this is what you wrote), not that she didn't pick a number AND a role (this is what you're implying you wrote). Fucking scum. 1 - I fucking meant AND here. I fucking wrote "especially the role". I don't think that anymore since she could ahve picked a role and got denied. 2 - I JUST quoted a post where I fucking townread you for EXACTLY THE REASON YOU RE SAYING I SHOULD TOWNREAD YOU. Here is it again: On January 20 2016 20:01 Rels wrote: Another thing, GB and Copcake didn't submit a number right ? It's like 99% likely. This means they are probably town. Scum wouldn't forget to send a number a be at the last place of the pick order. If you was not the most obvious scum in the history of mafia maybe that townread would have stayed there. On January 25 2016 22:22 GlowingBear wrote: I TRIED to pick moriarty and got mysterious challenger. If you think I'm lying about it you have to necessarily believe I'm Mafia with FF because that's the only way I can say I didn't get the role. Thanks for confirming it is what happened. | ||
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7. glowingbear - many people will disagree with this, to which i simply say: "scoreboard". you don't have the highest win percentage on the site as scum by just getting lucky. GB is the 1 special case in terms of how i assess him. to put it in starcraft terms: GB is the guy who 6 pools every game. seriously, when's the last time you saw GB in late game? the thing about GB is that he is never going to be the guy that is there alive at the end winning the game for you, that's just not in him. he burns bright in the early game then fizzles out. that said he is a man who creates things; he is a mover and shaker; a playmaker. often he will challenger someone and force a thread into an me vs him situation where people are forced to choose sides and many times people will choose to lynch GB, but from his corpse springs a bounty of information if he is town or a wealth of space in which to operate as mafia. GB's playstyle is very different than most and not traditional, but highly effective. I have no idea what GB is doing but it's got to have a purpose. | ||
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GB as scum plays to put his team in a good position. So: - he's not a fucking mysterious challenger. He's didn't try to pick Moriarty, he only said that to confirm FF in his role. - he doesn't care about survival. His filter is the most obvious scum filter ever. - so he picked someone that only needs to do one thing to be useful for his team. What are the roles that can do that ? Ezzio. But if I remember right, there were a lot of talk about Ezzio being a fucking scum role, so he might have been afraid to pick this one. Which role is left ? Fucking alchemist: Alchemist (Themed Game Mafia) - Hide Spoiler [Role] - You brew many potions and poisons. Once per game at Night, you may PM the host to secretly poison another player. When 48 hours have passed, the target will collapse and die. You also hold the antidote to this poison. At any time, you may PM the host to give the target the antidote and cure them. Your poison is refunded. Your target is not notified of any actions. ”Better living through alchemy!” - Alchemist, DOTA 2 If GB has this role, he just poisoned a strong townie near EON, so that townie dies near EOD. And there is nothing we can do about it. | ||
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On January 25 2016 22:46 Koshi wrote: ask mafia to kill him. Apparently you're the best at passing town message to scum so I'll let you do that. | ||
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On January 25 2016 22:46 Rels wrote: I hope he's Ezzio and use it on a dead role like Link. Maybe it is what happened. Like, geript's kill wasn't planned as he was bused with Koshi, unless Onegu is lying. Why would scum not kill a strong role like Link ? Because Ezzio took his powers away. | ||
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On January 25 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote: True. but stick to the plan. Pretend you don't know who mafia is. GB is so townie it fucking hurts. Why are we lynching FF BTW ? | ||
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On January 25 2016 23:04 GlowingBear wrote: Why would I claim the role I've got as MC, RELS? Tell me why this information is so crucial to town and not crucial to Mafia. I'm not talking to you anymore. Don't claim if you don't wanna claim I don't care. You will be lynched or killed before the game is over anyway so shut up and wait for your death plz. | ||
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On January 25 2016 23:22 disformation wrote: I think you missed the point of Rels post here. :p Or maybe YOU missed his point (= | ||
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We don't know what GB's role is, so we need to RB / kill him. We cannot take the risk of lynching him 'cause he might be hero. FF is confirmed scum moriarty by kita so we do not care about his role. | ||
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The only reason we're not currently lynching him is because FF is also 100% scum and that we cannot kill him with KP due to him being a veteran; and because you can roleblock him. But now we need your roleblock on GB too. | ||
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On January 26 2016 00:49 Koshi wrote: All those reasons don't make Onegu mafia. It makes him Onegu, flowercan of TL mafia. Yes they do. | ||
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Not following town's plan => mafia Not claiming you pick that role before SL's counterclaim + Alot's check forced him to => mafia | ||
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On January 26 2016 00:59 Koshi wrote: Also, I am very fucking scared about your townread on kitaman. That is so unwarranted. Holy shit. I didn't had him as scum per se but just followed Palmar and Keirathi. But I briefly opened his filter before I nuked him and the last 2 pages were nothing. On the last pages you mention he is interrogating FF, the guy he has a red check on. If he was scum, he would have claimed it right away to get suspicions away from him. He's going to flip anyway so it doesn't matter. | ||
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Here he didn't claim the red check at a time where he was heavily suspected by Palmar + you threatening to nuke him => he's not scum. Gotta agree that the last two things you listed are dumb from him but dumb does not equal scum. He never had the chance to lynch you or Palmar, so him scumreading you or him for shitty reasons don't matter. | ||
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On January 26 2016 01:15 Koshi wrote: Well, we kill people who say extremely dumb things, you should know. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9jvh8wzus1remtwmo1_500.gif) Fucking flower | ||
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On January 26 2016 04:48 Onegu wrote: Takes 5 but I have to end the day with 5 on me. And I can only shoot one of the people who have voted me... If they unvote I cannot shoot. WTF That's totally not whazt I understand from the role description Will confirm this with host | ||
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On January 26 2016 04:48 Onegu wrote: Takes 5 but I have to end the day with 5 on me. And I can only shoot one of the people who have voted me... If they unvote I cannot shoot. This is a fucking lie. 1. Artorias doesn't neeed to end the day with 5 votes on him. He needs to send the PM WHEN he has 5 votes or more on him, after he's done that it doesn'rt matter how many votes he has at the end of the day. 2. Artorias can shoot anyone that was voting him at the exact time he sent the PM. It doesn't matter if that person unvoted or not afterwards. | ||
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On January 26 2016 04:22 Onegu wrote: Ill PM greymist. And see if since he voted me at some point during the day if I can still shoot him and how many people I need to vote me to get the shot. Here Onegu said he PMd greymist about the mechanics of his role. On January 26 2016 04:48 Onegu wrote: Takes 5 but I have to end the day with 5 on me. And I can only shoot one of the people who have voted me... If they unvote I cannot shoot. 20 minutes later, he lies about how his role really works. That is a very big lie, as he made people think that as long as they didn't vote him at deadline, they were safe from his shot. That is absolutely not the case. | ||
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On January 26 2016 05:34 Onegu wrote: Yeah this is a lie. This isnt what you got from grey mist or HTS Hahaha perfect (= HERE IS WHAT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO DO 1. SEND HTS AND GREYMIST ASKING HOW ARTORIAS WORKS IN DETAILS 2. VERIFY THAT ONEGU LIED ABOUT IT 3. VOTE ONEGU ##Unvote ##Vote Onegu | ||
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On January 26 2016 05:46 Onegu wrote: Yeah HtS PM was worded wrong. I just got greymist confirmation. I have to put in the shot before unvotes. If I put in the shot before unvotes it still goes through. Wish I could quote PMs. But let me get this right rels. You think I am lying so people dont put 5 votes on me? If I was scum and not just confused by host pms dont you think I would lie about away to make people put votes on me? Your attitude is fucking wrong. If you suspect you might have understood something wrong, this is the post that should have made you thought "OK better reread": On January 26 2016 05:33 Rels wrote: This is a fucking lie. 1. Artorias doesn't neeed to end the day with 5 votes on him. He needs to send the PM WHEN he has 5 votes or more on him, after he's done that it doesn'rt matter how many votes he has at the end of the day. 2. Artorias can shoot anyone that was voting him at the exact time he sent the PM. It doesn't matter if that person unvoted or not afterwards. Remark that I don't vote you in this post. Because it's possible that you have misread something. But here are YOUR answers to that: On January 26 2016 05:34 Onegu wrote: Yeah this is a lie. This isnt what you got from grey mist or HTS On January 26 2016 05:35 Onegu wrote: Rels now confirmed mafia... That is a scum attitude. A now you're being like "WELL RELS WHY DOES MISREADING MAKES ME MAFIA ?" Well the same is true about you. I post something that you thought is not true and your first reaction is WELL RELS IS CONFRIMED SCUM; and now that you are proven wrong you're saying WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME SCUM FOR ? Double fucking standards. | ||
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I don't care you're dead tonight or tomorrow. ##Unvote ##Vote FecalFeast | ||
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On January 26 2016 05:34 Onegu wrote: Yeah this is a lie. This isnt what you got from grey mist or HTS On January 26 2016 05:35 Onegu wrote: Rels now confirmed mafia... RELS LIED HE S SCUM On January 26 2016 05:56 Onegu wrote: Rels is trying to say I lied about something that would make sure I would never get to use my role. If I was scum and going to lie I would try to get people to vote me and lie that way. Why would I lie about a way to get people to not vote me? RELS IS DUMB THINKING IM SCUM FOR LYING | ||
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I had forgotten about that. Fucking GB not claiming his role. I swear if I die to poison I'm going to be really mad. | ||
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On January 26 2016 06:27 Palmar wrote: It's still statistically the best play to kill FF/Kita Rels. Also, if you're so sure about onegu please summarize your thoughts in a case that you can then link back to later. He's Artorias. He didn't claim he picked it. He made us waste a check on him. He just called me scum for lying, then call me scum BECAUSE I said he was scum for lying when proven wrong. End of case. I agree FF is the right lynch, but I'm afraid of busdriver + GB's unclaim role. We cannot RB both, one of them is going to fuck us. | ||
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On January 26 2016 09:01 Half the Sky wrote: Night 2 Fecalfeast, as Professor Moriarty, was lynched! kitaman27, as Dr. Sy N. Tist, was completely obliterated! Final Vote Count - Day 2 Fecalfeast (11): Koshi, disformation, Palmar, sicklucker (1): Onegu GlowingBear (1): sicklucker kitaman27 (1): Koshi (1): kitaman27 Onegu (0): Tictock (0): Not Voted (0): Exempt (1): Damdred It is now Night 2. Please submit all night actions to GreYMisT and myself. The night phase will end in resolution at . hehehehehe =D Palmar you're pretty awesome p: | ||
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On January 26 2016 09:16 Koshi wrote: Also were is Rels? With his townread on kita? Jeezus. Since I won the "best newcomer" award things sure went downhill on this site. hahahaha I'm not even mad =D I'm happy being wrong on that one | ||
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On January 26 2016 09:20 Koshi wrote: Rels, Lucky we can still lynch people that say really dumb things and hit mafia. You had me worried. Sometimes you made me laugh (= | ||
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On January 26 2016 17:30 Koshi wrote: Also, if at all possible, could somebody post all the roles again? I am currently not able to read filters. + Show Spoiler [role list] + 1. Keirathi - house 2. Superbia - CPR doc 3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 6. geript - link 7. Breshke - holmes 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 9. Cephiro - dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 11. Vivax - Lemmings 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (BH) 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty 15. Damdred - doc 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - hero 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - Artorias 20. Sicklucker - Mysterious challenger (Cyrus) 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (Shovel knight) 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger (???) | ||
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On January 26 2016 18:38 Rels wrote: + Show Spoiler [role list] + 1. Keirathi - house 2. Superbia - CPR doc 3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 6. geript - link 7. Breshke - holmes 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 9. Cephiro - dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 11. Vivax - Lemmings 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (BH) 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty 15. Damdred - doc 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - hero 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - Artorias 20. Sicklucker - Mysterious challenger (Cyrus) 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (Shovel knight) 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger (???) Actually VA's role was wrong, changed it. + Show Spoiler [role list] + 1. Keirathi - house 2. Superbia - CPR doc 3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 6. geript - link 7. Breshke - holmes 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 9. Cephiro - dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 11. Vivax - Lemmings 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (BH) 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty 15. Damdred - doc 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - Tommy 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - Artorias 20. Sicklucker - Mysterious challenger (Cyrus) 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (Shovel knight) 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger (???) | ||
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On January 26 2016 19:11 Koshi wrote: Without me D2 would be 14 people voting for kita and 1 frenchie yelling how town Kita was. Yep gotta give you points for the nuke. You are unbelievably skilled at sheeping the right people. | ||
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On January 26 2016 19:15 sicklucker wrote: 198.48.136.237 / 26900 I made an updated list just above. What are those numbers ? | ||
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On January 26 2016 19:17 Koshi wrote: Arguably the best skill to have in mafia btw. Yep I agree. | ||
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On January 26 2016 19:24 Koshi wrote: Rels what are your strong townreads? I need to use my rb on somebody. Palmar Superbia disfo you SL Keir There is only one viable RB target tonight | ||
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Onegu is scum, if you don't wanna believe it it's a problem. Keir I gotta agree I don't have the strongest townread on him like I used to. He was invisible last phase. Why is SL scum ? | ||
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On January 26 2016 19:47 Palmar wrote: what about the people we aren't talking about. It feels like those are most likely to be mafia. So ... alot and copcake ? Alot is dead tonight if Shining told the truth, copcake might be scum. She said she had more time starting now so we'll see about that. | ||
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On January 26 2016 19:54 Koshi wrote: This alot guy, anybody has meta on him? His tone is townish. No. And he's either going to flip or scum with Shining so I don't care really. He was useless all game anyway, he said D1 he was waiting D2 for the player list to reduce in size before seriously playing; well, it didn't happen. | ||
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2. Superbia - CPR doc 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (BH) 13. disformation - Watson 15. Damdred - doc 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - Artorias 20. Sicklucker - Mysterious challenger (Cyrus) 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (Shovel knight) 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger (???) | ||
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On January 26 2016 19:59 Koshi wrote: Why in gods name would they be mafia together? Also, can't this shot be docsaved and shit like that? What if Damdred is mafia and protects Alot? Things that are 100% certain. Shining and Alot are not mafia together. You really got some really flowerish reads sometimes rels. Totally wrong conclusions. Like the opposite of what it should be. Scum doc never protects his partner there because of info + tracker. If alot survives and Shining is town, there is one confirmed doc that is scum => and for what ? Protect an useless player. So if alot survives and since no doc would protect him, Shining is scum lying about his shot. OK it doesn't prove they're scum together, but alot is scum anyway for his play. | ||
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On January 26 2016 20:13 Koshi wrote: He says really dumb things, and isn't figuring the game out correctly. He skips steps. What do you mean skipping steps ? I'm reading his filter and he's focused on a few things at a time; first organizing the number picks, then on his scumreads. LOL I forgot about that: On January 23 2016 11:15 sicklucker wrote: also im shovel knight i lied about my role duh... gg On January 23 2016 11:18 sicklucker wrote: i know its a terrible reaction test dont shoot me. why did i reaction test someone that can shoot me? | ||
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On January 26 2016 19:54 Koshi wrote: This alot guy, anybody has meta on him? His tone is townish. Also what do you mean by this ? I feel the opposite. Like the constant excuses (I'm new I don't know anyone!), the promise (I will do stuff D2!), the apathy (VA took my number ? Oh well I'm sure he had a good reason) are all super scummy. | ||
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Dumbtells: On January 20 2016 02:36 sicklucker wrote: if you pick a role thats already been picked you become vt. its not my first rodeo On January 20 2016 19:07 sicklucker wrote: fuck i only sent to hts. I DID TYPE ONE OUT TO GREYMIST THO. I dont know what happened to it I must not have clicked send GG dumb system is dumb Organizing town: On January 20 2016 08:39 sicklucker wrote: disformation 8.1 kitaman27 4.1 Rels 7.1 Onegu 1.1 but now spiting me Keirathi 1.1 to denie onegu GlowingBear Damdred 9-19 Tictock 13.13 ObiWanShinobi 5.1 Breshke 20.20 AlotSomuch 11.1 Superbia 2.1 dreamflower Koshi 3.1 VayneAuthority 15.12 The Shining 6 something like a dolt Fecalfeast sicklucker 6.1 Cephiro geript 17.12 Vivax CopCake Palmar 10.10 Reaction test: On January 23 2016 11:15 sicklucker wrote: also im shovel knight i lied about my role duh... gg On January 23 2016 11:18 sicklucker wrote: i know its a terrible reaction test dont shoot me. why did i reaction test someone that can shoot me? | ||
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On January 26 2016 21:15 Koshi wrote: Ok Rels. You are the worst player alive. (no disrespect) Those dumbtells can easily be made by mafia. Why are they town dumbtells? Rehearsing listposts are often made by mafia. Reaction test is not worth a townread AT ALL. sl is still very obvious mafia. pls don't kill me sl. 1. 'cause I remember him being town and saying he didn't do dumbtell as scum. 2. he didn't rehearse a list though, he created it and people used it. 3. he could have been shot instantly. Why would scum take the risk ? | ||
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On January 26 2016 21:17 Koshi wrote: Maybe Rels is mafia with SL? It is getting ridiculous. They are not in the team with kita. But in the team with fefe. I'm scum because I think you're wrong ? THIS time I expect an apology if when you're proven wrong. p: | ||
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On January 26 2016 21:21 Koshi wrote: pls don't talk to me anymore. K bro will do exactly that. | ||
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On January 26 2016 21:30 Palmar wrote: seems illogical to stick his neck out for kita if he is. Like rels is not a complete dumbess except when he is, so maybe he thought of that play, but it's still an outside the standard playbook one. Ouch that hurts. | ||
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During the first 24 hours of the day phase, SL can dual a target. If he does so, we can only vote for SL or the target. | ||
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On January 26 2016 22:57 AlotSomuch wrote: Having my one-shot completely wasted night 1 and then being informed I would die at the end of night 2 kind of discouraged my WIM for this role-madness, I won't lie. I honestly was starting to feel like it'd be better if I just let the shot go through rather than leave myself for an easy lynch at lylo and taking the protection of someone of more use. Reading up during class. That excuse is bullshit. I could put you at the end of my list for a low cost (1 charge), and save you if nobody before you gets hit. That's never happening though. | ||
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On January 26 2016 23:06 GlowingBear wrote: RELS I'm town. Don't shoot me or I'll have to take precautions. Wrong person, it's Superbia you need to beg. (= | ||
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On January 26 2016 23:14 GlowingBear wrote: Hmm it seems I was dumb I'm never believing that. p: For fun: who did you target N1 ? | ||
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On January 27 2016 02:51 sicklucker wrote: someone has a red check on alot so dont save him I'm pretty sure that is not the case. Not that he should be saved. | ||
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On January 27 2016 03:34 sicklucker wrote: Theres no fucking redcheck I was hoping onegu was not reading thread Oh. Happy to not be the one triggering the trap then p: | ||
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On January 27 2016 04:05 Tictock wrote: Uhh Kita just flipped scum and he tried to be very active in organizing town early on. So clearly there were scum who at least cared to try and some who didn't. As for SL though, I kinda think he's town. Seems really weird that he'd quote a post that FF made calling Kita and me scum together and then get that mixed up thinking it was kita calling me scum with FF if SL is scum. True, maybe the organizing town part is not worth much towncred. | ||
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On January 27 2016 04:18 CopCake wrote: Ok so explain to me why I suddenly became mafia and I wasn't before? I have work on weekdays, I had more time during the weekend. Cause others are town. Cause you are useless. Cause you not picking a role is not as town indicative as I thought it was. You are not my strongest scumread, and a big part of the read is you being useless, so if you're town and have more time on weekend I'm sure you'll be able to prove it. (= | ||
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On January 27 2016 05:13 The Shining wrote: I didn't lie about my shot and no way we're scum together. And we def wouldnt be same team. Could you explain why as scum I wouldn't just nk him to avoid being accused of lying about my shot? I can't because im not scum. Doh Don't know didn't think of that. As scum I suppose you wouldn't waste a KP on alot though. And no worries bro, we'll know about your shot soon enough. (= | ||
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On January 27 2016 05:32 Palmar wrote: Onegu: I didn't hate his filter when I read it, also rels feels strongly he's mafia so maybe that means he's town (#rekt). LOL bastard =D | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:32 GreYMisT wrote: Day 3 Damdred, the Doctor, was killed! AlotSomuch, as kitaman27, was killed! It is now Day 3! With 12 players alive it takes 7 to lynch. The day will end in . Cant believe alot was town ... Koshi I don't know how you got that "town tone" but it was super good. | ||
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On January 27 2016 11:36 CopCake wrote: Sorry was looking for the perfect pic By the power of the holy town and love I punish you GB ![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/abf5913a309bd5b1f5421d6ff0c7c718/tumblr_mikpcxfXjE1r7kr84o1_500.gif) ![[image loading]](https://45.media.tumblr.com/52e85656a0fa4670fc4d9603081a1b58/tumblr_mzmhmx6BOg1qj0yamo1_500.gif) ##Shovel: Glowingbear hahahahaha nice (= 99.999999% scum kill right there | ||
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On January 27 2016 14:08 Tictock wrote: Ok so... started this expecting to just make a simple list post but since the game is at a manageable size now I'll give you all more of my thinking. Remember, you asked for this. I'm pretty sure these people are town: 13. Koshi (+ Show Spoiler + Initial read was town, got worried based off EoD1 and him roleblocking me solely because I started scumreading him, EoD2 and varies interactions have me pretty sold on him being town. D2 should pretty much prove Koshi as town, only tinfoil left is if he was scum with FF and bussed him 15. The Shining (+ Show Spoiler + not sure I have really solid reasoning, so I could be wrong. but he convinced me early on that his mindset was towny. I'd prob only review if presented a good case on him 17. sicklucker (+ Show Spoiler + gave reasoning before, lots of things make me think he's town though These people might not be town, but are definitely not good lynches today 21. CopCake (+ Show Spoiler + gut/meta read says town. Shoveled GB upon request. It may not be super strong, but I think her role would be optimal for scum later in the game to help her team. So using it like this makes it unlikely she had a real agenda for her role. 22. Palmar (+ Show Spoiler + Has been pretty pro town, and sorta an ass while doing it. Oh yea also he did a good job finding scum D1 12. Superbia (+ Show Spoiler + Honestly I'm not sure and I've been doubting my initial townread on him since he took CPRDoc and started dropping off. His shots on VA and me don't look very good to me either, it's like he's only shooting low hanging fruit. I've played with him when he was Vig and his play was a lot different (his filter that game) but idk how strong that is given the vast setup differences. I left him in this section because even if he is mafia he should be trying to hit other mafia, which makes him more of a threat to mafia than to town. 5. Keirathi ( + Show Spoiler + I doubt scum fakes that spreadsheet thing he did, though as I'm typing I have to wonder why he waited till N2 to share it. If he gave up on it early why not just share it then? Ehh checking timestamps it seems pretty impossible that he faked that in response to what was going on at the time, and if your gunna preplan something like that I think you'd just make some real effort into the current gamestate not shit from preD1. So there, it's even tinfoil proof. Oh also there's other stuff but I feel like I used all my space here. Which leaves me with these people to look at even though I've got 2 scum somewhere above this. 1. disformation (+ Show Spoiler + Was suspect of him most of the early game, he did something that made me townread him more. Yes, I actually can't think of what it was atm. Think it's time to take a long hard look at his filter and see if he deserved that TR. Initial thinking is that he's been pretty active and open but hasn't really been putting in the effort that I've seen him make as town. Palmar also was right to ping out his GB case, it was really over the top for the actual content it had. Then again I think I've made bad filter posts like that before as town so idk. At the very least Dis should be happy that his nickname now implies how other people read him as well as his own reads. 3. Rels (+ Show Spoiler + I'll be honest, I'm mostly letting my fear get to me. Rels plays a strong active scum game though and I think his play this game might just be that. I don't have much conclusive to support that but I'll def be going through his filter checking some things. Some things I've noticed that Rels does as scum that might help: he doesn't bus (would be extra bad in this game), he goes after low-hanging fruit, over focuses on small details to make scum reads off of. Those are the sorta things I'll be looking for 4. Onegu (+ Show Spoiler + honestly pretty torn on Onegu. I thought the logic of him killing Alot as scum made sense, but I'm not sure if that's enough now. I need to check some stuff about how he's been using his power too. This is pure tinfoil but I was thinking Onegu's role and the way he's been using it could still be used rather effectively as scum. What if Onegu is scum and his team have been targeting themselves with KP and he's been bussing his teammates with someone they picked? Gets his team a lot of cred as they "get shot" I could well be way off course, but if that's true though it would add up as a team of FF, Onegu, Palmar, Koshi makes sense even given how D2 went down. Wow TT is scum. He makes a list of his reads, and is convinced the 3 people at the bottom are scum. We know he is that sure because of this sentence: Which leaves me with these people to look at even though I've got 2 scum somewhere above this. "I've got two scums above", meaning the 3 below are 100% scums. So if he's town, he's abolutely sure Onegu disfo and me are scums. But reading the spoilers: 1. disformation ( Was suspect of him most of the early game, he did something that made me townread him more. Yes, I actually can't think of what it was atm. Think it's time to take a long hard look at his filter and see if he deserved that TR. Initial thinking is that he's been pretty active and open but hasn't really been putting in the effort that I've seen him make as town. Palmar also was right to ping out his GB case, it was really over the top for the actual content it had. Then again I think I've made bad filter posts like that before as town so idk. At the very least Dis should be happy that his nickname now implies how other people read him as well as his own reads.) 3. Rels (I'll be honest, I'm mostly letting my fear get to me. Rels plays a strong active scum game though and I think his play this game might just be that. I don't have much conclusive to support that but I'll def be going through his filter checking some things. Some things I've noticed that Rels does as scum that might help: he doesn't bus (would be extra bad in this game), he goes after low-hanging fruit, over focuses on small details to make scum reads off of. Those are the sorta things I'll be looking for) 4. Onegu (honestly pretty torn on Onegu. I thought the logic of him killing Alot as scum made sense, but I'm not sure if that's enough now. I need to check some stuff about how he's been using his power too. This is pure tinfoil but I was thinking Onegu's role and the way he's been using it could still be used rather effectively as scum. What if Onegu is scum and his team have been targeting themselves with KP and he's been bussing his teammates with someone they picked? Gets his team a lot of cred as they "get shot" I could well be way off course, but if that's true though it would add up as a team of FF, Onegu, Palmar, Koshi makes sense even given how D2 went down.) So for all of these reads he states variations of "I need to check his filter". This is not how townie operate: here TT is giving his reads BEFORE doing the filter dives that should conclude in his reads. He is preparing his reads progression without doing the work to back them up. In short, they are fabricated. Furthermore, where is GB in all this ? He's been the scummiest player for a long time and he doesn't appear in this post. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:01 sicklucker wrote: Rels ill give you the tiebreaker. Do you want to lynch onegu straight up or use my power to do it? Why are you asking me to do this ? Use your power so you're confirmed cyrus. | ||
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Maybe. Her "I don't care" attitude + her using her power immediately when asked are good pointer to that. We'll see if she keeps up her "I will be more active on weekends" promise. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:14 sicklucker wrote: rels mafia chances just went way up by telling me to use it imo I was thinking the same. When asked to do an obvious town thing, Copcake did it immediately. You on the other hand delegated the responsability of using your ability. Not good. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:18 sicklucker wrote: If i was mafia why would I even claim this role? it puts me in spots like this where im a 50% chance to get lynched... If i really was mafia I would claim like kenpachi or something You cannot claim another mysterious role without taking the risk of being cc. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:20 sicklucker wrote: thats not true it says in the op the role is random Also I cannot be on one of the two mafia teams as I explained many times It is not true. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:22 Tictock wrote: Uhh, so you are mafia just not with Onegu? haha p: busted by the other team Onegu TT SL ??? Last one is probably copcake | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:25 sicklucker wrote: people who have been townreading me and dont vote onegu are scum and only thinking for survival. Rels tt im looking at you + Show Spoiler + This better bet your fucking plan palmar nothing else makes sense to me You're kidding me ? I just posted I wanted to lynch Onegu over you. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:26 sicklucker wrote: then why the fuck did you just put me on a scum team? Cause you're acting really scummy right now and the thing TT found might very well be a slip. - shitty defense with arguments that makes no sense - OMGUS - not wanting to use his ability when it's useless as town, as if you use it to deny a lynch in LYLO YOU will be lynched Maybe you're town overreacting to the pressure: calm down and come back not spouting bullshit if that's the case. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:28 Palmar wrote: No disfo disformation is 110% mafia I am more sure on him than anyone else in the game. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:28 Palmar wrote: No disfo disformation is 110% mafia I am more sure on him than anyone else in the game. Maybe. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:31 sicklucker wrote: Rels townreads me all game - when he sees i might lynched he jumps ship for no reason TT townreads me all game0 when he sees i might get lynched he jumps ship for no reason Now this is important becuase if you vote onegu you can get nked. They are mafia thinking only for survival Shut the fuck up I just said AND repeated I prefer Onegu over you. Of course I'm not voting him before I'm sure he's the lynch because of his fucking power. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:35 sicklucker wrote: its between me or him. YOU TOLD ME TO MAKE IT BETWEEN ME AND HIM wtf dude? Yep and I won't vote him until deadline to make sure he doesn't use his power in case you are the lynch. Why do you want me to vote him instantly ? | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:35 Rels wrote: Yep and I won't vote him until deadline to make sure he doesn't use his power in case you are the lynch. Why do you want me to vote him instantly ? | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:42 Palmar wrote: I'm just messing with you dude Rels might be mafia. He agrees to my dumb scumreads and doesn't agree on disformation who is absolutely mafia and will never flip anything else this game. Like I am so fucking certain about disfo. What was townie about SL's attitude ? It might be an over reaction but it was super scummy. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:47 sicklucker wrote: ITs not even my attitude its just that your reads say your voting onegu over me 100% of the time. But when the mighty palmar disagrees your 100% on his side I was not voting Onegu until I'm sure he's the lynch. | ||
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No it is the correct play. p: SL explain why you wanted me to vote Onegu instantly ? | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:51 sicklucker wrote: yet 0 words were said in my defense to make onegu the lynch Not true. | ||
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On January 28 2016 01:10 Palmar wrote: it's not an issue for a while. He doesn't have a kp role and we need to lynch 2 other people definitely first. I hope I'm killed before that happened so I am not the reason town loses. | ||
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On January 28 2016 04:55 Tictock wrote: Once he gets 3 votes then he can activate his ability, but it wont mean anything if he gets lynched. Did you not have any reads on either of them? What does SL's reactions thus far tell you? Your being oddly un-opinionated about all of this. My opinion hasn't changed at all since D2: we kill Onegu. But I liked Palmar's thing on SL as it got SL to react, and I didn't like the reaction. Especially two things: the fact taht he delegated his power use to someone else, and the full OMGUS. What are your opinion on it ? | ||
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On January 28 2016 05:50 Tictock wrote: Does anybody recall if Dis or Rels claimed any of their night actions? I'm gunna dig into their filters but I don't remember any claims from them. I don't want to reveal my charge count. I have one info though: either Palmar (bused to Damdred) or Superbia got attacked. So either double stack on Palmar or one prot on Superbia. I thought I would be able to know which one, but all my charges gets taken even if I protect the first person of my list, so I cannot know. | ||
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On January 28 2016 06:16 Onegu wrote: It was a double stack on palmar. Damdred protected palmar and 2 scum shot Palmar. I saved palmar and now you are scum reading me for it. And TT there were 4 scum KP on n1 odds are if I protect a well know player who was town then yeah I would have redirected a shot. I missed Damdred claim then. | ||
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On January 28 2016 06:25 Superbia wrote: Aw man. I really wanted to pressure Onegu in using his ability on someone of our choice first. =/ That cannot work. | ||
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On January 28 2016 06:37 Superbia wrote: Jesus, I enter and you leave? Lame. Your reaction to Palmar's "Lynch SL" test was kind of weird imo. x: Yep I'm tired. :p So I'm the only one that found SL s reaction super weird apparently. | ||
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On January 29 2016 01:16 Koshi wrote: lol I literally did not know that. How did so many people die already? Rels is mafia after all? Hmm Maybe not with these kills. You missed my post ? I protected one person last night (either Palmar => bused to Damdred or Superbia). | ||
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On January 29 2016 06:23 Onegu wrote: It wasnt as serious as first thought. Thanks for the well wishes! <3 Awesome. (= | ||
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On January 29 2016 09:00 GreYMisT wrote: Night 3 Onegu, as Knight Artorias, the Abysswalker, was lynched! Vote Count - Day 3 Onegu (8): Tictock, sicklucker, sicklucker (3): Copcake (0):, Tictock (0): It is now Night 3! Please send all night actions to both Half the Sky and I. The Night will end in Perfect (= knew it | ||
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On January 29 2016 11:20 Koshi wrote: Rels how many charges have you left? And please use all of them tonight imo Not claiming the exact number. But I have enough to protect the obvious townies. | ||
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On January 29 2016 12:41 Koshi wrote: Could some1 look at this and tell me if this could come from mafia? And why? On January 28 2016 00:11 Rels wrote: Wow TT is scum. He makes a list of his reads, and is convinced the 3 people at the bottom are scum. We know he is that sure because of this sentence: "I've got two scums above", meaning the 3 below are 100% scums. So if he's town, he's abolutely sure Onegu disfo and me are scums. But reading the spoilers: So for all of these reads he states variations of "I need to check his filter". This is not how townie operate: here TT is giving his reads BEFORE doing the filter dives that should conclude in his reads. He is preparing his reads progression without doing the work to back them up. In short, they are fabricated. Furthermore, where is GB in all this ? He's been the scummiest player for a long time and he doesn't appear in this post. | ||
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1 - is the best kill among the obvious townies since some people suspects me 2 - only happens if disfo is scum anyway, since if he's town he protects me while I protect the other. We're just going to CPR kill / lynch all the remaining person in the game until the win. | ||
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On January 29 2016 18:52 Palmar wrote: Rels you sexy dog no u | ||
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On January 30 2016 08:19 Palmar wrote: it's 2vs5 or 3vs4 depending on if gb was mafia. so it's 4-5 townies left. GB was 99% scum so its super likely 2v5. TT is scum, copcake probably is. Sicklucker might be too | ||
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On January 30 2016 08:29 Palmar wrote: All protection lists from the start of the game pls. Palmar superbia sl disfo Palmar superbia Superbia So I have one charge left. | ||
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PEACE ON YOU EXCEPT THE SCUMS YOURE ALREADY DEAD | ||
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On January 30 2016 09:26 The Shining wrote: 3. Can't confirm. 8. Confirmed BH roleblock on town Doc Damdred, Damdred lost a vote. 12. CPR Doc, confirmed on shooting Disfo. 15. Vig confirmed on Alot shot. 17. SL role confirmed on Onegu duel. 21. Confirmed on GB shovel. 22. Palmar confirmed Arrow shot. The only role not really confirmed is Rels, unless I missed him stopping a kp? You motherfucker don't post for dozen of hours but do'nt take the time to verify info before posting BS: On January 28 2016 06:10 Rels wrote: I don't want to reveal my charge count. I have one info though: either Palmar (bused to Damdred) or Superbia got attacked. So either double stack on Palmar or one prot on Superbia. I thought I would be able to know which one, but all my charges gets taken even if I protect the first person of my list, so I cannot know. | ||
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On January 30 2016 09:28 sicklucker wrote: No rels is like the only role left with powers thats not confirmed or done anything. I mean hes mafia ... Not one save all game that im aware of Fuck you. I've stated two times through the thread my save. So please go to the end of your theory: if I'm not confirmed, what role am I ? I must have picked something that give my team an advantage right ? What do you propose that gives no extra KP, no extra RB, no power suppressed ? | ||
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On January 30 2016 10:26 Palmar wrote: It's super tempting to flip copcake just to know what gb was It's super tempting to flip copcake, end of sentence. GB is like 99% scum it's not worth it to flip copcake just to verify; but we need to kill her 'cause she's still useless. | ||
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On January 30 2016 11:35 The Shining wrote: Wait wait wait wait. Rels = scum. Palmar was supposedly bussed with Damdred n2. So Damdred shouldve gotten the protection Palmar would've gotten, since he supposedly got the shot that was directed at Palmar. Can someone who is better informed about bussing double check this? And it didn't look like there was any kp on Super that night so Palmar->Damdred would've been the protect. I've blocked one KP on either Superbia or Palmar (bussed to Damdred) that night. I cannot know which one was it 'cause I protected Superbia first, both charges were used (and I got one back), and both charges would have been used even if Superbia was the protect.You could have learned this reading my filter. | ||
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On January 30 2016 22:48 Palmar wrote: Btw, given Rels' shitty record of protection this game he is probably mafia. I protected one hit N2. My bluff was probably the reason keir died instead of you N3. So, very kindly, shut up. | ||
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On January 31 2016 00:16 sicklucker wrote: you should go through your night actions more. you listed them but you didnt account for any missing kp in your posts for potential saves OK tell me what I could have done better: N1 I didn't say anything to keep my charge number in the unknown. N2 I protected one of Palmar (=> Damdred) or Superbia and claimed it once I had the confirmation I couldn't know which one. N3 I claimed all my prots. What are your advice there ? | ||
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On January 31 2016 02:24 Palmar wrote: Btw to further explain why we lynch TT: I do not have an overly strong conviction someone is mafia right now. There's no 100% mafia player right now. Keirathi is a good player though and he seemed very convinced TT is scum. I read his case and I think it is good. Generally it's a good idea to sheep very convinced good townies who sound like they're making sense. Unless someone has a slam dunk mafia case this is by far our best play right now. TT is my preferred lynch as well. What did you think of my post on him ? I only skimmed what keir said yesterday, will read that. | ||
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On January 30 2016 06:12 Keirathi wrote: So, before the deadline, someone talk with my about Tictock. He's probably scum because: 1) Slip His phrasing there implies TMI. 2) Weird read progression on Onegu I already said what was wrong with this here, and here in that chain of quotes. 3) This post: I had already said that stuff yesterday, and was just repeating it again having a conversation with koshi. Why didn't he have a problem with it THEN, but does NOW? And I obviously wasn't acting 'salty', so what was the point of jabbing at me like that? + Show Spoiler [SPECULATION AREA, STAY AWAY] + So, because of the slip and the way his reads on Kita/Vivax changed (he had Kita as scum all the way through draft phase and day 1, then mysteriously after koshi launched his nuke, Kita was in his town reads, for Vivax during day 1 he started calling Vivax scum a few times, but didn't vote for him until the wagon was basically unstoppable), I think it's fairly likely that he is on a team with them. Which leads me to believe FF and Onegu were on the other team. So: kita/vivax/TT/?? vs FF/Onegu/??/?? I think that probably puts disfo on the FF/Onegu team. Them having Watson and Moriarty would give them a good position to lie about any of FF's checks (by claiming FF was insane, whether he was or not. FF could just do whatever and always had an excuse to never have a useful result), and let disfo try to keep them alive at night. Still trying to work out who the last two would be. GB/Cake seem almost too easy. OK that is super good and probably the reason he died. Let's murder TT. ##Vote Tictock | ||
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On January 30 2016 07:58 Keirathi wrote: I'm tracking Cake, despite me just saying that I don't think she's the same as the scum!Cake i played with because I'm jut not sure. The setting is too different, she obviously has less time, etc. So getting hard data, even if it doesn't PROVE anything, rather than just some maybes. OK so copcake couldn't be a KP carrier yesterday. TT has to be the one that killed keir. | ||
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Copcake is confirmed not keir killer 'cause she was tracked. So who ? Shining who is kinda useless but seems townie, and who Keir called probably town ? 1% SL who keir called the last scum in his speculation post ? Maaaaaaybe but why over me / other valuable targets ? 5% Palmar who is obvious town ? 0.1% Superbia who is obvious town ? 0.1% Unless I forgot someone it's 93.8% TT. STATS CONFIRMED | ||
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On January 31 2016 04:23 sicklucker wrote: koshi roleblocked me last night dude I could not deliver scum kp True. Then it's even more likely TT shot keir. | ||
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On January 31 2016 04:24 sicklucker wrote: No it still could have been copcake that killed keir. Tracking does not stop someone from using an action it just tracks them and hes dead so we will never know... If keir didnt last second post his action it acualy is points for copcake being mafia Yes it does. Quoting the OP: Dr. House (Aperture Mafia 4: This Time its Personal) - Hide Spoiler [Role] - As the head of the Diagnostics Department, your ability to snoop into other people's affairs are unparalleled. Everybody Lies: Every night, you may choose to track a player. You will be told who that person visited that night. If your target visits a player that is targeted with KP, you will prevent 1 of that KP. If this happens, you will not learn who your target visited that night. | ||
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On January 31 2016 04:30 Tictock wrote: Also I am confirmed not capable of delivering KP last night due to the Vanilla virus as I stated here. Normally Rels is all about fact checking, if he thinks that post from Keir somehow means that I had to have delivered KP last night, why didn't he bother checking that my claim that I was RB'd by the Virus checks out? If you didn't deliver KP to keir, who did ? | ||
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On January 31 2016 04:30 Tictock wrote: Couldn't help but notice this. These posts are in order. First Rels says Keir's case was really good, then says he only skimmed it, then quotes it going "Oh yea this is good, lets sheep that" That didn't happen. On January 31 2016 04:30 Tictock wrote: Also this: Why does Keir saying he's gunna track Copcake imply that she wasn't carrying KP? The post from Keir was his last post before he dies btw. I really don't understand wtf Rels is thinking here. So you didn't double check a fact, and now you're scumreading me for not double checking a fact. Nice double standards! But I don't care that you're scum. Help us track down who shoot Keir, as that person is confirmed scum. | ||
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On January 31 2016 05:01 Tictock wrote: Lol Rels did you even look at the quotes I put in that post? Anyone can easily see the same 3 posts in the order that I posted them, I posted my fact check. Get recked. Shut up. This: TT is my preferred lynch as well. What did you think of my post on him ? I only skimmed what keir said yesterday, will read that. Does not mean "First Rels says Keir's case was really good". It means "TT is my preferred lynch as well. What did you think of my post on him ?" So shut the fuck up please. | ||
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I couldnt kill keir. Copcake couldnt kill keir. SL couldn't kill keir, unless he lied about Koshi's RB. So one of those people killed Keir: Palmar Superbia Shining | ||
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On January 31 2016 05:13 Tictock wrote: Oh Rip me. Was thinking this post was from you Rels kus of the quote right at top. Guess I need to wake up more. Sry scum I busted your case. Try again (= | ||
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On January 31 2016 05:26 Superbia wrote: Some good logic being thrown around, think we can possibly solve the game today. But.. Can someone explain to me why we're assuming disfo did not kill keir? OH MY GOD THE SAVIOR | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:01 sicklucker wrote: I THINK THE BEST PLAY IS TO LYNCH RELS AND ROLEBLOCK SHINING. but thats me and im sure it wont be popular. Its risky to leave rels alive because he can save himself I can't protect myself. | ||
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TT is still scum, if game ends and hes still alive I'll be really mad motherfuckers | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:25 Palmar wrote: rels, do you believe tictock's roleblock and sl's roleblock claim? TT s claim is confirmed right ? Sl claim makes sense I believe it | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:41 Palmar wrote: so thusly you believe shining is confirmed scum to you? why haven't you been trying to lynch him today? Because I read his filter and I don't think he's scum. When he should be confirmed ... Hold on im writing something that could explain it. | ||
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On January 26 2016 19:44 Koshi wrote: I don't know about Keir. 50/50 Here is the only thing I could find about keir filtetih koshi n2. Like, something is bothering me. What did koshi do n2 ? Either roleblock or put a bomb on someone. If he roleblocked someone, who ? Nobody claimed, so nobody alive at the time. The two kills were damdred and alot. Damdred was a bus from palmar, and obviously koshi didn't rb palmar. So maybe he roleblocked alot. This seems super bad though; alot was super scummy so not likely to carry kp and koshi was kinda townreading him. So if koshi didn't rb n2, he had to put a bomb jnder someone s ass. The night he died, only keir died; so he put his bomb under keir. Why do that when he was townreading keir ? Well, two things: he wasn't townreading him n2, and n3 maybe he felt safe that I said I would protect him to not need to move the bomb. | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:46 sicklucker wrote: acualy this is what rels town pov should be like. "sl and copcaked are roleblocked I town read palmar/super so theres only two mafia left in shining/ticktock. Like this should be rels easy perspective here but im not hearing alot about it I pushed TT hard today, he was the lynch until I came back. I don't think shining is scum, I played scum with him and I don't think he's scum here. | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:49 Palmar wrote: no there is no other option from your pov. Yes there is. | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:51 sicklucker wrote: but you believe ticktocks roleblock? Yes. I think TT and copcake are scum. I think disfo shot koshi and TT /copcake was rb (unless they are in the same team) | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:52 Palmar wrote: unless I'm misunderstanding the roles, which is certainly a possibility, I'm terrible with mechanics. You are. Listen, I understand your pov. I should be convinced that shining is scum. I don't think he is though, do I think this other possibility is what happened. Disfo shot koshi, koshi hadd put a bomb on keir n2 so keit explodes TT and copcake are scum | ||
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Ok you didn't read that huge post ivr just made then ???? | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:49 Rels wrote: Here is the only thing I could find about keir filtetih koshi n2. Like, something is bothering me. What did koshi do n2 ? Either roleblock or put a bomb on someone. If he roleblocked someone, who ? Nobody claimed, so nobody alive at the time. The two kills were damdred and alot. Damdred was a bus from palmar, and obviously koshi didn't rb palmar. So maybe he roleblocked alot. This seems super bad though; alot was super scummy so not likely to carry kp and koshi was kinda townreading him. So if koshi didn't rb n2, he had to put a bomb jnder someone s ass. The night he died, only keir died; so he put his bomb under keir. Why do that when he was townreading keir ? Well, two things: he wasn't townreading him n2, and n3 maybe he felt safe that I said I would protect him to not need to move the bomb. | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:56 sicklucker wrote: i think most if not all koshis abilitys were one time use.. No he didnt fucking do anything like that SL can you read the op once in your life before saying bullshit ? You've said: Keir tracks doesn't rb the target : false I can protect myself: false Koshi doesn't have a mad hatter ability: false | ||
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I asked you a question before I think. What did koshi do n2 ? | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:58 sicklucker wrote: IF KOSHI WAS GOING TO KILL ANYONE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ME ANYWAY. this is such a reachhh that it is mafia I agree its weird, but its this or shining is scum. Same question: what did koshi do n2 ? | ||
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On February 01 2016 07:59 Palmar wrote: I don't care and you're the one getting lynched. I dont care town doesn't lose as long as you hit scum with cpr. Did you read my post ? N2 koshi either rb alot or plant a bomb on keirathi. There is no other possibility as no one claimed a rb. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:02 Palmar wrote: Sure. Koshi is not dumb enough to kill keirathi, he was much more sure about sl. I FUCKING AGREE TO THIS BUT THERE IS ONE ACTION MISSING N2, HE DIDNT JUST DO NOTHING | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:02 Palmar wrote: also you should care, we literally lose if your theory is true, so back it up, fast. I FUCKING did. I proved there is only two possible things that could happen n2: rb alot or plant a bomb on keir. Rb alot is not likely as koshi was townreading a lot + alot was not a likely carrier | ||
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He never claimed to be rb n2, unless I missed it. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:05 Palmar wrote: koshi barely talks about keirathi at all. I know I checked. He said he was 50 50, and way later during d3 said "I don't know how I ever could suspect keirathi this guy is town". I think that is what happened, as koshi rbing alt is even more unlikely | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote: Again he would have killed me. (maybe im lying mafia scum and hes going to make me go boom tonight? that would be hilarious) I'm not fucking talking about what he should have done. I'm talking about what did he do. He didn't do nothing: he could either plant a bomb or rb someone. Nobody claimed the rb : so he planted a bomb. That bomb was keir as keir died when koshi died. | ||
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I read that too, but the only possible rb is alot, which is extremely unlikely. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:09 Palmar wrote: Do roleblocks get notified even if the target didn't try to use any action? Yes. Somebody asked that when TT claimed go be rb n1. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:12 Palmar wrote: Because, just like you, I townread shining. Thus, you must be mafia. Ok I accept the townread on shining. Why what is what I'm saying not making sense about koshi action on n2 ? Am I missing something ? Cause it looks like there is a kp missing if I'm right | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:13 Palmar wrote: let's be clear, rels if you flip town, superbia is shooting shining tonight. we all agree the roleblocks sound believable. Nooooooooo | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:16 sicklucker wrote: Wait how is copcakes roleblock even confirmed. I thought it was but I dont think it is Yes it is. Keir said he was tracking her and Dr house track protects the target s target | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:16 Palmar wrote: Because it's too tinfoily and why on earth would koshi bomb keirathi of all people. Because of this: WHAT DID HE DO N2 ? He didn't rb anyone since nobody claimed / he didn't claim he rbed anyone, which is valuable information he would share with town. So he didn't rb anyone n2 So when everything impossible is off the table, the remaining is the truth | ||
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So: - either less scummy people (me, shining) are scum - or there was actually a kp blocked last night AND NOW I JUST SHOWED THAT ITS SUPER LIKELY THAT THERE WAS A KP BLOCKDD LAST NIGHT Because if keir wasn't a koshi bomb, WHAT DID KOSHI DO N2 ? Easy | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:22 Palmar wrote: No we just got all the good roles killed. I'm so fucking uncertain. Rels is not wrong, koshi did not say what he did n2 as I can find. That feels so good to hear that I feel I have a super hard time explaining what seem super logical to me | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:24 The Shining wrote: Honestly it's the good logic from Super and Palm 're: the kp carrier. I know it wasn't me so it had to be you. But your tinfoil theory here isn't impossible. Not likely at, all, though, since he also could've bombed someone who is dead or done nothing n2. I wish you hadn't waited until you were being lynched to come up with this so it wouldn't feel like you r just trying to survive. I was not there all day. I was the one starting the discussion last night about who could kill keirathi, when superbia said it had to be disfo I thought it solved everything. But palmar saying (you or shining has to be scum) made me think because you don't look scummy | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:25 sicklucker wrote: Its logical just not overly important and I dont see why your fixated on it. like most roleblocks dont do anything of note Lol Because TT and copcake are like super scummy, but the reason they are not lynched is because they were roleblocked So now that I showed that keir kill is likely to not be a scum kp, its super likely they are scum SO ITS ACTUALLY EXTREMELY IMPORTANT | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:26 Palmar wrote: No your explanation is fine. But a much simpler explanation is that koshi randomly roleblocked scum or something (like disfo) who didn't carry kp and that guy didn't claim it and koshi didn't really think about it. or that he blocked alot, of course. No, he would have shared that info. It is good info | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:28 Palmar wrote: Also koshi killing keirathi and not moving the bomb the night he says that keirathi is 100% not mafia is just... no way. Koshi is not that bad. I said I protected him though so maybe he felt safe. And maybe he was super sure about blocking sicklucker kp | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:30 Superbia wrote: If he blocked scum then how the fuck did we see 3kp. Ok one more time. :p What did koshi do n2 ? He didn't rb someone since nobody claimed to be rb, and he would have shared this info. So he planted a bomb (that is his only other action at night). Who did he bomb ? Well, someone that died the night he was killed: keir | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:31 Palmar wrote: fuck it let's kill shining then? Lol no | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:31 sicklucker wrote: rels this is a more logical explination. both super and rels killed disinfo. Like this makes so much more sense then what your going on about. Stacked kills Why would koshi bomb a guy that was going to be lynched or killed before long ? | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:33 sicklucker wrote: I remember koshi roleblocked someone else in the game. Are you sure he didnt roleblock someone? like really sure? I don't remember + I checked his filter like 30 minutes ago.I'm quite sure. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:35 sicklucker wrote: he sent the madhatter on day 2 he cant control it? super said it cant have happened but you didnt even think of this scenario which is suspect i think? I don't understand what you are saying. You are talking about koshi bombing disfo right ? If that happened, disfo would havr been saved by the cpr doc | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:38 The Shining wrote: Copcake isn't even here... We can murder copcake too | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:38 sicklucker wrote: koshis filter is a pile of shit. you really read all this? can you make some comments about random shit in it Lol I only skimmed n2 to check for this theory I saw he was townreading shining, was 50 50 of keir, was pretty sure you were scum. He was doubting me too | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:38 Palmar wrote: I don't care. I'm going to stay on rels as a revenge for him disagreeing with me on kita day 1. Fuck you. Don't you dare kill shining if I die. Copcake and TT are scum | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:38 Superbia wrote: I think TT has been decently townie today tbh. Not really. He made up some bullshit on me which I disproved, he sweated to use his ability on whoever town wanted to escape lynch, then gtfo | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:43 Superbia wrote: Koshi 100% rbed SL last night though. I firmly believe that. It makes complete sense. I think SL would've carried the KP for scum last night unless he's scum with palmar but then GG etc. So SL town too. SL/Palmar/Myself Ride or die. Kill rest. Yep. We're taking about n2 there | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:44 Superbia wrote: Dude tbh I don't think the ability works like this. But mods aren't around to confirm. z_z I can confirm maf hatter works like that, as can anybody with experience can: like palmar sl etc If a mad hatter puts a bomb on someone that person will die when the mad hatter dies even if its 3 days later | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:50 sicklucker wrote: rels if your mafia plz tell us the other mafia team 1 second before you flip thanks!If one of TT or copcake is not scum you are. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:53 Superbia wrote: Rels. Who do I shoot between copcake and TT? What do you think? Both are fine. | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:54 Tictock wrote: Barely got a break in time, changed my Ban to Shining. I get no notification back from the action, we'll be able to verify if TS took the RB by him being able to vote tomorrow. Of course 5 minutes before deadline. Don't let this guy live | ||
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On February 01 2016 08:57 CopCake wrote: Eh i have no night actions but if you ask me who is mafia i will go with tt. Two scums showing up right at deadline. | ||
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Everybody played super well, it was a super fun game. Of course I'm kinda mad 'cause a lot of decisions could have won the game for us (me picking alchemsit to kill Palmar D1, me not switcing the kill to Koshi so Koshi dies D1, Damdred not protecting superbia N2, us killing superbia N3 instead of Koshi ...). BUT both red team and town deserved to win as well, and it's quite rare. Fucking WP everyone. | ||
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On February 04 2016 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Exactly why i read Rels mafia early on in the game btw. Can't wait to roll scum again against you so you carry me to victory. (= | ||
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On February 02 2016 07:59 Tictock wrote: Ok, so my predictions, Cake gets shot flips scum and GB flips Town. Scum kills The Shining. (+1?) Slim chance Super shoots me instead (if he does he is 100% scum, like forcing town to consider using a lynch on Cake one more day is such a mafia move it's not even funny) but I'm fairly sure Shining dies due to my Ban on him. After Cake I think Palmar and Suber as most likely to be scum. Maybe I'm way off on TS and SL, but I don't think so. Between them Palmar has done a ton of work in catching scum, it's really unlikely that he is scum and if he is he's played this very well. Basically this leaves me looking at Super. I took another look at his filter from D1 onward, wanted to be a bit more thorough and also look for possible associations. I think there is a strong chance Super was with FF. FF was one of the few people I actually fins Super talking about having a strong TR on, but it feels pretty flimsy. He flipped as soon as the check was reveled but he also tried to start shenannies EoD onto me. Really odd move given how the day had been, also it's odd how sure Super has been on me being scum all game but has never given any reasoning to push it. For reference I put all the posts related to FF I could find together, sorry if they are jumbled. Nothing really stands out, but together it looks far more like Super is coaxing FF to post and play then gives him an unexplained townread. + Show Spoiler [Super's Posts on FF] + On January 20 2016 02:02 Superbia wrote: FF post some more. On January 20 2016 06:24 Superbia wrote: What do you feel your chances are this game FF? On January 20 2016 06:29 Superbia wrote: Mind sharing the knowledge VA? Or do you want to keep it a secret for now? Also any reads so far FF? What do you think about my alignment? On January 20 2016 09:35 Superbia wrote: I like this list a lot. I think you can remove FF though. Not entirely sure yet. On January 22 2016 09:19 Superbia wrote: Wow FF with the actual logic bomb. Nice. On January 22 2016 02:29 Superbia wrote: Yeah FF got moriarty confirmed then. But I already had a decent townread on him so meh. Then after seeing the Redcheck On January 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote: Super tired. FF actually being mafia is the most messed up thing. Godread = no more. Probably the biggest thing here is Super's EoD reactions before FF and Kita flip, it makes very little sense why he is suddenly wanting to shenannigan onto me. Unless of course it was a last ditch move to try and save FF. From a town perspective it makes no sense, you've either decided to trust and lynch the redcheck at that point, or you've explained why FF is town or Kita is scum (or both). Super did none of those things, he accepted the redcheck (just said "oops, guess my read on FF was bad") and doesn't bring doubts up till EoD. I'm also noticing that Super was really focused on people not claiming D1 and in general had really been focused on mechanics and roles. So it's really wierd that I'm not finding any mention of Onegu in his filter. No reaction to Onegu's late claim/role. He shot VA for having an Anti-town role but then N2 Super tries to shoot me over Onegu for reasons? Why did he care so much about VA's role being anti town, but give literally no shits that Onegu took his role and wasted Alot's role by not claiming. This is the only post I found where Super talks about Onegu's alignment. I also pointed out earlier how uninterested Super seemed when the lynch was Onegu vs SL, he jumped right into talking about night actions but nothing about lynches besides some stuff that suggests he preferred not to lynch Onegu. Which looks really off given he never gave a read on Onegu or really talked about him after asking him to claim D1. This is not really strong, but this post jumped out at me. The bit about GB is really wierd, how is there any indication as to who's team GB was on? I think this is actually a slip. The only reason why Super could have any inclination about GB being on one team over the other is if Super is in fact mafia with FF and Vivax (and Onegu), it makes sense given the stuff I noticed between Super and FF as well. Biggest thing is that don't give anyone a pass for no reason from now on. If I die tonight, please don't ignore this post, so far my reads have been pretty on point. If I live then pick this argument apart, tell me why Super is town. If you think I'm scum tell me why. I think this game is solved. Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake vs Vivax/FF/Onegu/Super And yes this means I think GB is gunna flip town. And on BTW. Best post I have ever read. | ||
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On February 05 2016 01:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Obi mvp. I found your play D1 extremely sexy. A shame you picked an awesome + kinda mysterious role, that sealed your fate. =D | ||
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