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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
January 21 2016 20:38 GMT
#1721
Nope nope nope nope nope nope.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 21 2016 20:39 GMT
#1722
copcake probably didn't get the memo that flower is also a role.
Also, was that a joke from GB? If it was. Mea culpa. But I don't think it was. I might just have a low opinion of GB though.
I had a good night of sleep.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2016 20:44 GMT
#1723
On January 22 2016 01:43 Keirathi wrote:
If you're so sure that Palmar is scum (which seems like your strongest read except maybe Vivax?), why aren't you trying to convince people to vote for him? Or Vivax for that matter? Or anyone, really?


On January 21 2016 13:34 Keirathi wrote:
So if you're not mafia, who is? If you can't even come up with someone that is scummy, how do you expect people to think you're town? How to you expect to not get lynched?


Looking through Keir's filter these two posts seem pretty scummy. He is calling out a couple of players for not pushing their scum reads so I went back to see who Keir has actually pushed and really the only person he has brought up this game as a strong read is damdred.

On January 20 2016 11:53 Keirathi wrote:
Someone talk to me about Damdred.

That dude is totally scum.


He gives a few generic sentences explaining that damdred hasn't said much and basically tells him to "step it up". He isn't trying to convince anyone himself why he should be lynched, yet goes after other people who are doing similar things. When I explain why I thought damdred could be town at that point, he essentially backs down and says he really isn't sure.

I know it's only day one, but we've had like 60 hours to talk about stuff and his five page filter doesn't show hardly any scum hunting at all.

Will probably look at Vivax and Alotsomuch next.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 20:45 GMT
#1724
On January 21 2016 13:36 Tictock wrote:
Thats true GB, but you have to admit there's apathetic and forced dumbtells (asking questions about stuff in OP).

Speaking of dumbtells I don't really like SL making a big deal about his missed PM. Though my gut is leaning town on him kus of how upset he was that his "sweet spot" number didn't work out.


my "sweet spot" number would have gave me 3rd or 4th pick o.o
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 21 2016 20:46 GMT
#1725
Looks like I'm basically caught up, gotta head out for a bit but should be around later tonight anf tomorrow.

Sheeping Koshi kus atm he's a pretty cool dude even if he did sorta ninja Werner from me.

##vote VayneAuthority


I like Palmars push on Kita, and Vivax also looks like a solid lynch.

Dis might be town, but I'm not seeing it. I'm also not sure I want to lynch him kus of his role and he has info that may prove neccesary. Which only further enforces my scum feels on him >.<

I'm also slightly feeling like GB is town here. I do kinda believe he's be more down with the role talk and just being more engaged as scum. Not really good reasons though.
I can take that responsibility.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 21 2016 20:47 GMT
#1726
On January 22 2016 05:05 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 22:32 disformation wrote:
Bleh, Breshke's filter is pretty stale...
Mostly NAI setup stuff, here and there a line or question that could be nice, but don't see those going anywhere. I like that he was trying to make the detective trio happen.

I'd like Breshke to be town so we can out-rap scum together.
+ Show Spoiler +

So I am slightly biased, but I want to see some reads and stuff.


No real reason to worry about him imo, though I'd put money on him being town.

Like if he's mafia he'll prob keep acting in the interest of town and help find the opposing team.


"I'd put money on him being town, cuz if he is mafia he is his probably still helping town."
What kind of flowers are you smoking?

On January 22 2016 05:06 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 04:56 Tictock wrote:
On January 21 2016 22:23 Koshi wrote:
disformation,

Because if we lynch VA he can pick somebody who voted on him. Imo everybody should vote for him.


Humm, interesting. I think I like this idea.


So you want the D1 lynch to be decided by VA alone?

Would be interested in the answer, too.

On January 22 2016 05:20 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 23:41 disformation wrote:
Uh. Yeah. Great. GB's filter is def. very unsexy as well.
I also need to start making notes or something. I thought there were a few GB posts I liked. His filter has nuthin'.


Thought you were doing that already...

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 09:53 disformation wrote:
On January 19 2016 09:43 Tictock wrote:
On January 19 2016 09:30 disformation wrote:
On January 19 2016 09:08 Tictock wrote:
Yay I think I have 2 town reads.

and we haven't even started the game proper

FYI I'm probably never saying what I pick. It may or may not be a number I throw out, and I'm not above tanking somebody's spot just kus.

Reads? Care to share who/why?


Thinking Koshi and Superbia town.

Kinda based on meta as well as their mindset.

I could see mafia claiming to go for dreamflower though, it's an obviusly pro-town role and might give them some easy cred. For whatever reason I believe Super is seriously going for it though, which is a risky move for mafia.


Well, that are both the ppl I made notes of so far. xD
Superbia going for Dreamflower smells a bit of wine to me though, but that could have different reasons. Also felt kinda genuine to me. Would lean town.

Second thing I noted was koshi dumbtelling and his reaction on being called out on that. Would town lean as well.

On January 19 2016 09:45 Tictock wrote:
On January 19 2016 09:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Setup speculation time (first person to wine about this gets mafia points!)


What will I be spending my mafia points on?

Kus I kinda don't like this post...


Can you narrow down what you don't like about this post?

Started taking notes. Stopped taking notes. Regretted stopping taking notes.
I think I tried this notes thing in like 4/6 of my games here, never really managed to do so all game. Should just not mention these flowers anymore.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 20:48 GMT
#1727
On January 21 2016 19:41 Koshi wrote:
I got a pro mafia role. Please do not ever kill me mafia. I just want to sit this one out till the end. I don't even want to win.


nd what were you saposed to take?
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 21 2016 20:49 GMT
#1728
So, I'm kinda thinking geript is scum.

1) His super weird extremely strong townread on me. Don't get me wrong, in the last few games with him, he's been pretty good at reading me correctly as town. But he was super hard townreading me like 3 hours into the game. There are some pretty big differences between how I play as town vs scum, but they don't really have anything to do with the first 3 hours of the game. So, kinda reeks of too much knowledge. Small scum points.

2) I have a hard time believing that a town!geript can look at Rels/Breshke filters and think they're scum. Maybe I could get him not having townreads on them, but there's a lot of townie points in both of their filters. Small scum points until he comes back and explains more.

3) Weird "I'm picking CPR Doc and whoever picks it above me is getting autolynched" thing. Except instead of actually doing that, he decided to play along with Palmar's town plan (despite thinking Palmar is scum for basically the last 2 days)??

4) His scum read on Palmar almost seems forced? Like, when I think of geript and think he really believes something, I think of him being stubborn and really trying to get people to listen to his reads etc. Combined witht eh fact that he just sheeped ontot he Palmar town plan, I dunno, it just doesn't feel like a very genuine read.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 21 2016 20:49 GMT
#1729
On January 22 2016 05:47 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 05:05 Tictock wrote:
On January 21 2016 22:32 disformation wrote:
Bleh, Breshke's filter is pretty stale...
Mostly NAI setup stuff, here and there a line or question that could be nice, but don't see those going anywhere. I like that he was trying to make the detective trio happen.

I'd like Breshke to be town so we can out-rap scum together.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17CLlZuiBkQ

So I am slightly biased, but I want to see some reads and stuff.


No real reason to worry about him imo, though I'd put money on him being town.

Like if he's mafia he'll prob keep acting in the interest of town and help find the opposing team.


"I'd put money on him being town, cuz if he is mafia he is his probably still helping town."
What kind of flowers are you smoking?


Actually. This is like your first mention of Breshke in your filter.
Aside from him being sortable via role stuff, where does your town read come from?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 21 2016 20:50 GMT
#1730
On January 22 2016 05:46 Tictock wrote:
Looks like I'm basically caught up, gotta head out for a bit but should be around later tonight anf tomorrow.

Sheeping Koshi kus atm he's a pretty cool dude even if he did sorta ninja Werner from me.

##vote VayneAuthority


I like Palmars push on Kita, and Vivax also looks like a solid lynch.

Dis might be town, but I'm not seeing it. I'm also not sure I want to lynch him kus of his role and he has info that may prove neccesary. Which only further enforces my scum feels on him >.<

I'm also slightly feeling like GB is town here. I do kinda believe he's be more down with the role talk and just being more engaged as scum. Not really good reasons though.

I didn't. Kita told me to pick Werner way before you picked werner. I probably picked werner before you even.
I also was sleepy yesterday and thought by warning you 5 mins after you posted you would change.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 21 2016 20:51 GMT
#1731
On January 22 2016 05:48 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 19:41 Koshi wrote:
I got a pro mafia role. Please do not ever kill me mafia. I just want to sit this one out till the end. I don't even want to win.


nd what were you saposed to take?

Reading the thread is a good tool to have.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 21 2016 20:54 GMT
#1732
On January 22 2016 05:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 05:48 sicklucker wrote:
On January 21 2016 19:41 Koshi wrote:
I got a pro mafia role. Please do not ever kill me mafia. I just want to sit this one out till the end. I don't even want to win.


nd what were you saposed to take?

Reading the thread is a very useful talent toi have.


fixed.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 21 2016 20:54 GMT
#1733
On January 22 2016 05:44 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 01:43 Keirathi wrote:
If you're so sure that Palmar is scum (which seems like your strongest read except maybe Vivax?), why aren't you trying to convince people to vote for him? Or Vivax for that matter? Or anyone, really?


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 13:34 Keirathi wrote:
So if you're not mafia, who is? If you can't even come up with someone that is scummy, how do you expect people to think you're town? How to you expect to not get lynched?


Looking through Keir's filter these two posts seem pretty scummy. He is calling out a couple of players for not pushing their scum reads so I went back to see who Keir has actually pushed and really the only person he has brought up this game as a strong read is damdred.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 11:53 Keirathi wrote:
Someone talk to me about Damdred.

That dude is totally scum.


He gives a few generic sentences explaining that damdred hasn't said much and basically tells him to "step it up". He isn't trying to convince anyone himself why he should be lynched, yet goes after other people who are doing similar things. When I explain why I thought damdred could be town at that point, he essentially backs down and says he really isn't sure.

I know it's only day one, but we've had like 60 hours to talk about stuff and his five page filter doesn't show hardly any scum hunting at all.

Will probably look at Vivax and Alotsomuch next.

The difference between you and me is that I don't have people that I'm so sure are scum. You had a lot of reasons that you thought Palmar as scum, except you've kind of just not bothered pushing him or trying to get other people to vote him? That doesn't sound like a kita that thinks he's really found a scum, tbh.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 21 2016 20:55 GMT
#1734
On January 22 2016 05:54 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 05:51 Koshi wrote:
On January 22 2016 05:48 sicklucker wrote:
On January 21 2016 19:41 Koshi wrote:
I got a pro mafia role. Please do not ever kill me mafia. I just want to sit this one out till the end. I don't even want to win.


nd what were you saposed to take?

Reading the thread is a very useful talent toi have.


fixed.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Yes. I knew something was wrong. Thank You.
I had a good night of sleep.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 21 2016 20:58 GMT
#1735
Anyone making a list of claimed roles? dont you fuckers make me do it
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 21 2016 21:00 GMT
#1736
[QUOTE]On January 22 2016 05:47 disformation wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2016 05:05 Tictock wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 21 2016 22:32 disformation wrote:
Bleh, Breshke's filter is pretty stale...
Mostly NAI setup stuff, here and there a line or question that could be nice, but don't see those going anywhere. I like that he was trying to make the detective trio happen.

I'd like Breshke to be town so we can out-rap scum together.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17CLlZuiBkQ

So I am slightly biased, but I want to see some reads and stuff.
[/QUOTE]

No real reason to worry about him imo, though I'd put money on him being town.

Like if he's mafia he'll prob keep acting in the interest of town and help find the opposing team.

[/QUOTE]
"I'd put money on him being town, cuz if he is mafia he is his probably still helping town."
What kind of flowers are you smoking?

The sale strain.

Fuck that 30% tax

Good stuff.

No I'd put money on him being town kus of a couple of subtle things he's done.

His role keeps him invested in acting in town's interest for multiple reasons, even moreso if he's mafia. Least in imo.
I can take that responsibility.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2016 21:01 GMT
#1737
Re-read through Vivax's pretty short filter again though I don't have much to add. So far it seems pretty similar to the afk scum vivax from TL Mafia LXXIII: The Nutcracker.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=Vivax

I know I was pretty deadset on him being mafia in the recent resistance game until he suddenly turned on the activity so maybe he will show us something in the next 24 hours. If he continues to ignore the game, then I'd probably lynch him.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 21 2016 21:02 GMT
#1738
On January 22 2016 05:58 sicklucker wrote:
Anyone making a list of claimed roles? dont you fuckers make me do it


On January 21 2016 20:36 Rels wrote:
OK caught up. First thing (shamelessly stolen from disfo + completed):

+ Show Spoiler [role list] +

1. Keirathi - house
2. Superbia - CPR doc
3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella
4. Rels - Captain Malcolm
5. Palmar - arrow
6. geript - link
7. Breshke - holmes
8. Koshi - Werner von braun
9. Cephiro - dreamflower
10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist
11. Vivax - ???
12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???)
13. disformation - Watson
14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty
15. Damdred - doc
16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27
17. VayneAuthority - hero
18. The Shining - TTV
19. Onegu - ???
20. Sicklucker - ???
21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???)
22. GlowingBear - Flowey


Copcake said she was randomed a role so I assume it means she got a mysterious challenger.

If your role was stolen you need to claim it now. If you claim that after D1 we will lynch you first to check.

These person need to claim what role they got:
11. Vivax - ???
12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???)
19. Onegu - ???
20. Sicklucker - ???
21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???)



Only thing not right in that list is that GB checked if moriarty was taken and therefore got MC.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 21 2016 21:04 GMT
#1739
On January 22 2016 06:01 kitaman27 wrote:
Re-read through Vivax's pretty short filter again though I don't have much to add. So far it seems pretty similar to the afk scum vivax from TL Mafia LXXIII: The Nutcracker.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=Vivax

I know I was pretty deadset on him being mafia in the recent resistance game until he suddenly turned on the activity so maybe he will show us something in the next 24 hours. If he continues to ignore the game, then I'd probably lynch him.


This. Not sure why ppl aren't voting Vivax atm.

Look at his really short filter.
Like post #2 is him getting angry at town for organizing the number picks.
Earlier today he showed up just to throw out 3 meaningless one liner posts and gtfos.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 21 2016 21:06 GMT
#1740
##vote: Vivax
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