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Tictock
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On January 28 2016 00:13 sicklucker wrote: wow you guys are so lame but not as lame as onegu who I should have used this on yesterday ##Nirvana Strike: onegu Oh ok we are gunna do that, well my vote is never leaving Onegu then. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 00:18 sicklucker wrote: If i was mafia why would I even claim this role? it puts me in spots like this where im a 50% chance to get lynched... If i really was mafia I would claim like kenpachi or something I doubt you would use your power like this too if you were mafia. This turn of events just reinforces my tinfoil though. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 00:20 sicklucker wrote: and those who vote onegu can get killed. I rly hope you guys are scum if not this is so sad lolz Nah onegu can only do that thing if we don't lynch him. Which we really should be doing here, I'm quite certain SL is never scum here. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I just wanted to know what you meant by that, calm down. That was some funny timing though, I was a few pages behind when I posted that. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 00:24 Rels wrote: haha p: busted by the other team Onegu TT SL ??? Last one is probably copcake How the hell does this make any sense? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 27 2016 18:00 Onegu wrote: You may not use this power to target yourself or knowingly bus a member of your own faction. Fuck, I read this post earlier but it didn't really click till on the way home. Double checked, just in case, and yea this makes my tinfoil total bullshit. So Onegu is actually never mafia with either Koshi or Palmar, but that doesn't prove him town. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 00:42 Rels wrote: Voting Onegu is the dumbest thing you can do and you should unvote until deadline / the lynch is decided. I assume it's 3 people to activate his ability. Once he gets 3 votes then he can activate his ability, but it wont mean anything if he gets lynched. Did you not have any reads on either of them? What does SL's reactions thus far tell you? Your being oddly un-opinionated about all of this. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 00:46 Palmar wrote: I don't think SL is mafia and I stand by that read. I will never lynch sl this game. If he's mafia he's played great, put in a lot of effort and sounded convincing when he needed to. So that leaves me with only one option. I don't care what everyone else does, it's not my problem I will be voting onegu today I will be voting disformation tomorrow. There is going to be no discussion about this. On January 28 2016 00:47 Koshi wrote: The person who put down the third vote could have been pressured hard... Oh well. This was fun. Could have been brilliant. I apologize for calling you guys mafia. Unless of course you turn out to actually be mafia, then shame on me, but I'm over that tinfoil. Honestly if nothing else this is turning into a rather interesting day for being a pre-decided lynch between Onegu and SL. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
[QUOTE]On January 28 2016 00:49 Palmar wrote: [QUOTE]On January 28 2016 00:48 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On January 28 2016 00:47 sicklucker wrote: ITs not even my attitude its just that your reads say your voting onegu over me 100% of the time. But when the mighty palmar disagrees your 100% on his side [/QUOTE] I was not voting Onegu until I'm sure he's the lynch.[/QUOTE] you have the balls of a little old lady.[/QUOTE] No it is the correct play. p: SL explain why you wanted me to vote Onegu instantly ?[/QUOTE] WTF is this question Rels? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 00:50 Rels wrote: No it is the correct play. p: SL explain why you wanted me to vote Onegu instantly ? WTF is this question Rels? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 01:40 Koshi wrote: Vote for an 24h day? Only if it doesn't shorten the rest of our days (which I think it usually does). Another 24 hours isn't that bad, we had more time idle last phase. Maybe I can think up another really cool tinfoil that turns out to be totally impossible. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 02:00 CopCake wrote: Dont you guys think keirathi is suddenly oh so quiet? Clearly he is hanging out in his mafia QT. No chance he's asleep, or at work, or anything like that. + Show Spoiler + This is a really terrible post | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 02:05 Onegu wrote: So I have already pointed out how I would want to shoot scum if I was scum not town. Also I lock in the people I can shoot then choose who to shoot at EOD if I live. I have locked in everyone Prior to Koshi voting me. ##Vote SL I mean you should want to hit scum as either alignment right? Koshi's points about your role targets is fairly true, also it's a bit interesting that you've correctly bussed KP targets each night. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I'm gunna dig into their filters but I don't remember any claims from them. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 05:50 Tictock wrote: Does anybody recall if Dis or Rels claimed any of their night actions? I'm gunna dig into their filters but I don't remember any claims from them. Oh actually I didn't realize what time it was, I gotta get ready to head in for my 2nd job. This will happen tonight. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 05:28 Tictock wrote: I mean you should want to hit scum as either alignment right? Koshi's points about your role targets is fairly true, also it's a bit interesting that you've correctly bussed KP targets each night. It's pretty scummy to suggest that as town Onegu is more ok killing town than he would be as scum. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 28 2016 09:41 Superbia wrote: Night actions: Koshi -> Madhatter The Shining Superbia -> CPR tictock disfo -> heal Superbia Rels -> heal Palmar Keirathi -> track RNG between The Shining/copcake/disfo/TT Ok I'm pretty sure you are scum. Super dropped in and had almost no reaction to things happening today, he's not even bothering to try and act like he has any reads and is definitly doing nothing to develope and further reads. For instance he said " SL reacted in a very SL way, but it could be a ploy" so he has no real read on SL but also doesn't bother to include him in any of the night action stuff here. Seriusly though why should anyone be so focused on how tonight's actions should happen when we haven't seen Onegu's flip and still have half a day to discuss shit. It's totally unlike how I've seen Super play before as well. I played with him before when he was Vig, he was agressive, in your face, and always pushing someone or something to further his reads. Here he has been totally uninvolved besides discussing his shots and mechanics. Seriusly when was the last time Super gave a read or did something that actually resembles scum hunting? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 24 2016 08:43 GreYMisT wrote: Geript, as Link, the Hero of Time, Died! ObiWanShinobi, as Nigella Lawson, Died! Breshke, as Sherlock Holmes, Died! Cephiro, as dreamflower, Died! Cake these were the flips from N1. Ceph died due to his own hand trying to shoot Bre, Super shot at VA who presumably protected himself, thus mafia KP was on Koshi (bussed to geript), Obi, and Bre with one shot missing. So technically yes, it is possible that I was carrrying KP and Koshi blocked it, or it could have been 2 shots on the same person, or another save happened. There was also KP missing N2 with the only claimed RB being on Super. My point is that there is tons of stuff happening at night so trying to WIFOM what happened is probably not going to get you anywhere, especially when there is more than one scum team. But fine you can be in the club of people who scumread me for little reason and can't be bothered to pay attention to the game. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
In case anyone is around and wants to chat. | ||
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Tictock
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Breaking this up by phase so I don't forget stuff. pg 2-5 is the pick phases. What stands out most to me about Dis's early game is that he was mostly focused on picks and very little focus on reads. It's interesting because he mentions several times that he's keeping notes on people and seems interested when he asks about my reads really early on, but when he actually talks about his reads/notes it's super shallow or when he responds to me it's basically just saying "yea I had notes that say the same thing" His posts with reads in them for reference: + Show Spoiler + On January 19 2016 09:53 disformation wrote: Well, that are both the ppl I made notes of so far. xD Superbia going for Dreamflower smells a bit of wine to me though, but that could have different reasons. Also felt kinda genuine to me. Would lean town. Second thing I noted was koshi dumbtelling and his reaction on being called out on that. Would town lean as well. Can you narrow down what you don't like about this post? On January 19 2016 11:54 disformation wrote: Hm.. nearly 4 am here, think I'll go to bed now. For what it is worth I'll throw a TR at TT, since I feel like he is really trying to figure out the game already, while most ppl are preoccupied with the pick order and roles. While I mentioned this stuff: not entirely sure what I think about picking roles based on pick order and/or priority or something. Like I am not sure if the benefit outweighs the costs and someone said that there are a bunch of roles that are hard to hold ppl accountable for/verify, need to think about that, but it could mean that there is room for scum to mess with the pick order and/or pick something else. Will try to squeeze in some time tomorrow afternoon and think about this a bit more. On January 20 2016 07:32 disformation wrote: Okay, everyone I am back. Skimmed the pages I missed. Not really liking Vivax and CopCake so far. Both seem rather uncooperative. On January 21 2016 00:17 disformation wrote: Will read that gambler stuff again later. Need to step out and do some rl stuff. Have a difficult time forming reads so far, since most of the discussion is focused on setup, numbers and roles. IMO most of that stuff is pretty NAI as it can come from both sides. Some of my notes:
Also tons of ppl I can't really remember what they have done/posted so far. Should look at those, when the game starts for real. On January 21 2016 01:29 disformation wrote: The capslock level in those posts is so ridiculous high that I can't help but feel like you are overexaggeratating and trying to force the "lord am I excited bout this!" tone. His reaction to me sniping his number picks is kinda interesting too. He's kinda mad, but not really. He claims it made him loose his townread on me but the phrasing he used was pretty odd. On January 20 2016 11:32 disformation wrote: mild scum lean, blocks number. "k". not being cooperative. "k". not sure I want to have a town lean on you anymore.  It's not "bleh, thats pretty scummy maybe I was wrong and you are not town" or something like that, he's saying he still thinks I'm town he's just not happy with me. It's more like he's debating if it's worth townreading me, not if I am in fact town or not. Def does not look like a town mindset imo. I also thought it was pretty silly Dis spent like 8 posts just making lists of people's roles. Ok sure sometimes that can be helpful, but that seems a little over the top imo. Especially when Dis claimed earlier that he was TRing me for doing the opposite (ignoring picks and stuff and trying to make early reads), so it's weird that he suggests it's a good thing for town to focus more on reads but then puts so much focus himself into setup/pick stuff. Day 1, pg 5-8 So Dis jumped on Vivax really early and had mentioned him a few times in his earlier reads. I suppose he deserves some credit for that kus if he was on a team with Vivax he prob woulda pushed to keep him alive one more day to use his lemming power, but idk how solid that is. On January 21 2016 22:17 disformation wrote: Yeah, he has not a single post I like. + I remember really disliking this one: Where he basically started to being all pissy and angry, when stuff started to get organized. Happy to put my vote on him. + Show Spoiler [Tinfoil] + There is an odd feeling I have given how sure Dis seems to be that Vivax is scum in all his reads that reminds me a lot of how I played as scum with Vivax on my team in Nutcraker. Vivax upped his scum game a little from that game to this one, but if he was as absent in his scum QT as he was in Nutcracker I wholly believe his team would bus him. Vivax's role wasn't super great for scum so it's also not a huge loss. Couple other things that I noticed was this post I pinged out much earlier. On January 21 2016 23:41 disformation wrote: Uh. Yeah. Great. GB's filter is def. very unsexy as well. I also need to start making notes or something. I thought there were a few GB posts I liked. His filter has nuthin'. Which seemed odd kus Dis had talked about making notes already. This post is also interesting given Dis' later case on GB which was basically the same as what he says here. Then there was this post that looks like it has a solid chance of being a scum defense of Kita. On January 22 2016 02:03 disformation wrote: Okay Kita time. Well most of his filter so far is planning and setup/roles/number/mechanics stuff. So not too impressed. That being said a lot of his suggestions made kinda sense to me, so I am not sure why you are scumreading him for that. If I go ahead and say that all the setup/roles/number/mechanics stuff ared NAI his filter is not the most exciting, but TBH we have tons of ppl with a bad/empty/unexciting filters so far, so I'd prefer to lynch someone who didn't give a flower during the organization phase. So then there was this vivax thing. Agreeing on a scum read on a dude, after he has asked him a question and the answer was not great doesn't look wrong to me. The wording with the "first" may be a bit off, but I am not seeing how this makes kita like slamdunk scum. Maybe I missed something in his filter or Palmar's point cause tired as flower, but I don't think we should lynch kita based of these things. Like slightest townlean when compared to the dudes and dudettes who didn't even care about that organization part. Also:+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.uniqueeventadditions.co.uk/Waffle-Vegan-Mixes.jpg) Dis just seems so uncommital in this post vs his other reads. Decides the setup stuff is NAI and then agrees with Palmar but says he's not at all convinced, and even ends the whole thing saying he's townleaning Kita for caring about what he initially says was NAI (the setup/organization stuff). That's most of Dis's filter (pg 9 is basically the start of N1) and this post is balooning out (and taking a ton of time) so just gunna finish reading and will finish up with conclusions. Ah the stuff I was townreading Dis for was his reaction when he thinks I slipped by saying I was Roleblocked when I have no night actions. Just seemed really excited to have caught a scum slip which tbh could be from either alignment this game, ugh. I never did see Dis claim any of his saves, which is odd kus there is no downside to him claiming right? Especially when he came forward with his sanity checks on Holmes and Moriarty pretty freely, it's odd that he hasn't bothered to share who has has tried to save at night. So conclusions: I'm not totally sure Dis is scum here, but I think it is pretty darned likely. Like I said a lot earlier I've known Dis to agonize over his reads and go back and forth trying to weigh the town motivations and scum motivations. I see none of that here, I'm the closes person he's done that too and even then it never feels real. So yea Dis is probably scum, the only thing i had a real townread on him for now seems much more NAI as scum could be just as excited to think they found a scum slip as town in this setup. | ||
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