On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote: It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible
On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: The entire point of having ffa/check players is for them to take roles that SHOULD have been taken before them to PROVE the players before them actually took the roles they were meant to take. It's a failsafe.
On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: Kita's additions completely undermine my plan.
Who here thinks these three statements could possibly follow a logical sequence from a town Palmar? It's impossible.
EBWOP the second quote should be under palmar's name not mine.
Hi, dumb stoner here, just gonna work this one out on paper.
Palmar: The more roles we control the better
Palmar: Some players should have freedom to pick so we can check
^^This is a disconnect in thinking and your suggestion to eliminate the ffa roles, rather than undermine his initial quote, fortifies it?
He told the FFA picks to grab a role ahead of them that was already picked.
So for instance, koshi picks Link to make sure geript picked Link. kita picks arrow to make sure palmar is arrow, and damdred picks house to make sure breshke is house.
In 99% of cases, koshi, kita, and damdred are now mysterious challengers because Occam's razor tells us that they're going to pick what they say.
I suggest that we grab three super power roles instead that were omitted from his list and suddenly I'm undermining his plan.
On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote: It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible
On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: The entire point of having ffa/check players is for them to take roles that SHOULD have been taken before them to PROVE the players before them actually took the roles they were meant to take. It's a failsafe.
On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: Kita's additions completely undermine my plan.
Who here thinks these three statements could possibly follow a logical sequence from a town Palmar? It's impossible.
EBWOP the second quote should be under palmar's name not mine.
Hi, dumb stoner here, just gonna work this one out on paper.
Palmar: The more roles we control the better
Palmar: Some players should have freedom to pick so we can check
^^This is a disconnect in thinking and your suggestion to eliminate the ffa roles, rather than undermine his initial quote, fortifies it?
He told the FFA picks to grab a role ahead of them that was already picked.
So for instance, koshi picks Link to make sure geript picked Link. kita picks arrow to make sure palmar is arrow, and damdred picks house to make sure breshke is house.
In 99% of cases, koshi, kita, and damdred are now mysterious challengers because Occam's razor tells us that they're going to pick what they say.
I suggest that we grab three super power roles instead that were omitted from his list and suddenly I'm undermining his plan.
On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote: It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible
On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: The entire point of having ffa/check players is for them to take roles that SHOULD have been taken before them to PROVE the players before them actually took the roles they were meant to take. It's a failsafe.
On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: Kita's additions completely undermine my plan.
Who here thinks these three statements could possibly follow a logical sequence from a town Palmar? It's impossible.
EBWOP the second quote should be under palmar's name not mine.
Hi, dumb stoner here, just gonna work this one out on paper.
Palmar: The more roles we control the better
Palmar: Some players should have freedom to pick so we can check
^^This is a disconnect in thinking and your suggestion to eliminate the ffa roles, rather than undermine his initial quote, fortifies it?
He told the FFA picks to grab a role ahead of them that was already picked.
So for instance, koshi picks Link to make sure geript picked Link. kita picks arrow to make sure palmar is arrow, and damdred picks house to make sure breshke is house.
In 99% of cases, koshi, kita, and damdred are now mysterious challengers because Occam's razor tells us that they're going to pick what they say.
I suggest that we grab three super power roles instead that were omitted from his list and suddenly I'm undermining his plan.
I kinda see obth sides of the argument, though I don't agree that it shits all over his plan. Like if scum in the top 10 decide to grab janitor instead of a prot role and nobody checks anything it'll be hard to find out until the janitor's already cleaned some shit up right?
On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote: It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible
On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: The entire point of having ffa/check players is for them to take roles that SHOULD have been taken before them to PROVE the players before them actually took the roles they were meant to take. It's a failsafe.
On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: Kita's additions completely undermine my plan.
Who here thinks these three statements could possibly follow a logical sequence from a town Palmar? It's impossible.
EBWOP the second quote should be under palmar's name not mine.
I think it makes sense from a town perspective to have some people check-pick near end of the list. Assuming they're not all aligned (decent assumption), it puts some pressure on mafia to pick what they're told and not pick some super scummy role.
Pick 8, 10, and 15 should not be thrown away simply to verify that a player picked their roles.
I suggested they be replaced by three very powerful roles that include watching abilities, parity cop, tracking, and protection. Then Palmar calls me mafia for "undermining his plan". It's so illogical that it's ridiculous.
Not 8,10 agreed. People at/near bottom of list should do it.
Honestly still not sure what this argument is about alignment-wise. End result seems fine, even though we have no clue what bottom pickers are doing (meh). Think you may have had a point statistically, but I don't think this makes Palmar mafia at all. His pick-logic checks out, and you works with what you can (afkers etc.) Chance you are both town 89%.