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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 24 2016 16:36 GMT
#3021
What's kita role?
I'm adorable.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 24 2016 16:39 GMT
#3022
Oh 1 more thing.

If town wants to actually hit mafia lynch fefe.


If kita is town: we can trust his redcheck (I don't know if this is true but w.e)
if kita is mafia: we can trust he actually tried to find other mafia and is telling the truth
if kita is a flower: he framed a townie but I don't understand why unless mafia really just wants to kill all townies and go for a co-op victory.


So lynch fefe = thx.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 24 2016 16:46 GMT
#3023
On January 25 2016 01:39 Koshi wrote:
Oh 1 more thing.

If town wants to actually hit mafia lynch fefe.


If kita is town: we can trust his redcheck (I don't know if this is true but w.e)
if kita is mafia: we can trust he actually tried to find other mafia and is telling the truth
if kita is a flower: he framed a townie but I don't understand why unless mafia really just wants to kill all townies and go for a co-op victory.


So lynch fefe = thx.

Okay. Should have finally time now.
I was looking into the roles, but there are no other frame abilities in the game, right?
Also don't think kita is a flower.
So voting FF sounds like a good plan.
Though I am not sure if I like Onegu sitting on that confusing busdriver role.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 24 2016 17:06 GMT
#3024
On January 24 2016 15:27 sicklucker wrote:
how long till it goes boom?

End of day I think.

On January 24 2016 19:46 sicklucker wrote:
Once per game, when you have a half majority of the players voting for you (rounded up) OR you are the final mafia of your team remaining, You may PM the host to unleash the Wrath of the Abyss. If you manage to survive the day, You will gain the ability to immediately leap and kill a player who was voting you when you used Wrath of the Abyss. After using this power, You will return as mafia to all checks, no matter what.

oh you dont get to use your abilty if you die great.

Guys its important we dont give onegu half the votes unless we decide to kill him so no shennanies on this one..

Didn't you pay attention D1? This was one of the reasons to lynch Vivax, since some of us (me included) didn't believe his lemmings claim and thought he had a fair chance to be artorias.

On January 24 2016 20:09 sicklucker wrote:
But did someone confirm your role yet by receiving the ban notification? because that would be good to know

On January 23 2016 09:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 09:44 The Shining wrote:
On January 23 2016 09:30 Damdred wrote:
Also an action has already been used on me rip


You were already notified?


I GOT BH'D BAN LIST IS WANTING MY SOUL

That stuff is like 1/3 of damdy's filter...
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 24 2016 17:18 GMT
#3025
On January 25 2016 01:39 Koshi wrote:
Oh 1 more thing.

If town wants to actually hit mafia lynch fefe.


If kita is town: we can trust his redcheck (I don't know if this is true but w.e)
if kita is mafia: we can trust he actually tried to find other mafia and is telling the truth
if kita is a flower: he framed a townie but I don't understand why unless mafia really just wants to kill all townies and go for a co-op victory.


So lynch fefe = thx.

Koshi is 100% right on this one.

There's no way town kita claims a fake red check on fecalfeast.

So it's:

a) town kita found scum -> we lynch scum
b) scum kita wants to kill town -> worst result, still 1 for 1 so I'm fine with it
c) scum kita found evil scum on other team -> we get 2 scum.

If we lynch FF and the nuke lands on kita we are 100% guaranteed to hit mafia.

So yes, koshi is right, we lynch FF
Computer says mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 18:33 GMT
#3026
Alright I'm there. Catching what I've missed.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 18:50 GMT
#3027
So. I'm pretty sure kita is town and we're losing him for no reason. )=
I agree with Koshi that whatever the alignement kita is, his check is real. If he's scum, he wants to help his team by lynching a guy from the other team, that happens to be a vet.
But he's like 99% town. Why, as mafia being super suspected, would he take the time to interrogate his red check before revealing it ? He would claim his red check immediately to ... well, avoir what happened exactly. p:

Whatever though, I don't think there is any way to save him. FF should definitely be the lynch, it's the only way to deal with him as he's a vet.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 18:51 GMT
#3028
##Vote FecalFeast
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 18:52 GMT
#3029
Onegu still needs to be killed. If it doesn't happen today, he needs to be roleblocked.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 19:29 GMT
#3030
So. Here is my town list:

kita => )=

Palmar => I don't really need to exlain this one I think ? He's pushing the game forward, he's way more involved than in the outlaw game where he did the minimum to survive / be townread (that includes that burst of activity the day he was almost lynched, if not for that he was dead), he lead a lynch on scum D1. 100% town.

Superbia => He was the first reason town got organized this quickly, before Palmar made the plan. He's involved in everything.

Damdred => I should scumread him for his behaviour (to put it bluntly, (1) being bad and not giving town list like usual unless when asked and (2) being only active at deadline when it matters), but he picked doctor. He picked doctor when he had the opportunity to pcik Nigella. Doctor is a terrible role for scum, as they have a chance to die if they target scum. For this alone, Damdred has a good chance to be town.

disformation => He helped town a lot before the picking phase deadline to make sure nobody overlapped. In particualr, he was concerned town got invesgative roles, which scum wouldn't like. He was OK taking doc which is a terrible role for scum. Finally, the excitement when he thought he found a scumslip with TT's RB claim was super townie.

Keirathi => Every post of him is townie. He was super involved during the first phases, in which scum might be afraid to appear too townie in fear of eating a bullet from the other team. He picked a role that is kinda bad for scum; he was the first pick and could picked anything, yet he picked House.

SL => I'm pretty sure this guy is town only with the two dumbtells. Nothing he has made since had me change my mind.

Koshi => The opposite of SL. I was pretty sure this guy was town because of a dumbtell, but his attitude since then is so bad I started thinking he was scum hiding behind trolling to get away for not posting a lot of serious thing. But the fact that he roleblocked TT makes him town I think. If Koshi was scum, he could have used any of his other abilities to help his team instead of trying to stop a KP. Like put a bomb on a strong townie like me or Palmar, or go to Mars with a teammate and someone to lynch.

Copcake => her not picking a number or a role alone makes me think she's town. Especially the role; she was almost last pick, she could have picked anything she wanted. Of course if she is not shovel knight we kill her instantly, but her claimed role is confirmable; plus she claimed when some people didn't claim yet, so if she's not shovel knight she took the dumb risk of being counterclaimed. In addition to that, she is not posting a lot, but I can see her train of thoughts each time she does so.

If you're not on this list, that means you are one of:
FF
Onegu
GB
TT
Alot
Shining

That means I'm automatically wrong on at least own town since there are 7 scums left p: but I'm pretty sure most of this list is scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 19:37 GMT
#3031
GB please explain this:

Here you asked who's got a role kita is talking about:
On January 24 2016 07:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 07:12 kitaman27 wrote:
GUYS GUYS.

I have an idea.

On January 13 2016 05:45 GreYMisT wrote:
Eraser Bot Mk 0 - Target player may edit one of their posts


Palmar can fix his case on me and balance will be restored to the thread.


Who's got this role?

Shining replies to you, and you've got to have seen the answer since your replied to it:
On January 24 2016 07:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 07:28 The Shining wrote:
On January 24 2016 07:26 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 24 2016 07:12 kitaman27 wrote:
GUYS GUYS.

I have an idea.

On January 13 2016 05:45 GreYMisT wrote:
Eraser Bot Mk 0 - Target player may edit one of their posts


Palmar can fix his case on me and balance will be restored to the thread.


Who's got this role?


The guy that made the post...why are you so clueless every time you're here?


Because I've already said I'm not keeping up with the thread and that I will only have time to play better next week?

So why are you asking about kita's role here, when Shining already answered it earlier ?
On January 25 2016 01:36 GlowingBear wrote:
What's kita role?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 19:45 GMT
#3032
Or don't explain if you want, since you are 100% scum judging by your filter.
Only useless stuff, nothing to help solve the game. A thousand questions that could be easily answered, which is making this quote super funny:
On January 25 2016 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 01:25 Koshi wrote:
The only way Palmar is mafia is that if he is mafia and EXTREMELY active finding the other mafia team and killing them.

Which is the direct opposite of his play in outlaw in which he was just blending in killing people who scumread him. (which were around 7 people, gj not dead townies for being horrible)

This game he is doing way more legwork and making plays that do not progress his wincon AT ALL if he is in the other mafia team. Because then he would just wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and then do everything in the end to secure win.



Anyway. I have 0 interest in actually thinking about the game. But it amuses me if I see people think and be so wrong.


Koshi have you ever thought about reading a setup and thinking about it BEFORE joining a game?

I think you're lying about your role too, since you claimed to try taking Moriarty and FF (Moriarty) is 99% scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 19:51 GMT
#3033
Maybe that last part is bad 'cause it's unflipped association. If FF flips scum though, I feel this is a good pointer to GB and FF being scum together, with GB picking a real role and lying about taking Moriarty to confirm FF as not lying. And GB refused to claim his role besides saying it was mysterious challenger; it could be a fear of saying a role that someone else has.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 19:53 GMT
#3034
On January 22 2016 05:33 AlotSomuch wrote:
I regularly catch up on the thread between calls at work Copcake. I just have trouble telling you all apart, have no meta to go off of, and am unfamiliar with this kind of setup, so I'm coasting for the most part until role actions start happening, a bunch of people get killed off n1 making the playerlist more manageable, and I can start really playing.

I hope that happens sometimes.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 24 2016 19:56 GMT
#3035
On January 25 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:
Or don't explain if you want, since you are 100% scum judging by your filter.
Only useless stuff, nothing to help solve the game. A thousand questions that could be easily answered, which is making this quote super funny:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 25 2016 01:25 Koshi wrote:
The only way Palmar is mafia is that if he is mafia and EXTREMELY active finding the other mafia team and killing them.

Which is the direct opposite of his play in outlaw in which he was just blending in killing people who scumread him. (which were around 7 people, gj not dead townies for being horrible)

This game he is doing way more legwork and making plays that do not progress his wincon AT ALL if he is in the other mafia team. Because then he would just wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and then do everything in the end to secure win.



Anyway. I have 0 interest in actually thinking about the game. But it amuses me if I see people think and be so wrong.


Koshi have you ever thought about reading a setup and thinking about it BEFORE joining a game?

I think you're lying about your role too, since you claimed to try taking Moriarty and FF (Moriarty) is 99% scum.

Agreed GB's filter is a steaming pile of flowers.

Not sure I agree on your Damdred TR.
Like 70% of his reads are from Day 0.
Yeah, he gets some cred for being okay with the Doc, but as you said his other activity doesn't look very town to me.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 24 2016 20:03 GMT
#3036
On January 25 2016 04:29 Rels wrote:
Koshi => The opposite of SL. I was pretty sure this guy was town because of a dumbtell, but his attitude since then is so bad I started thinking he was scum hiding behind trolling to get away for not posting a lot of serious thing. But the fact that he roleblocked TT makes him town I think. If Koshi was scum, he could have used any of his other abilities to help his team instead of trying to stop a KP. Like put a bomb on a strong townie like me or Palmar, or go to Mars with a teammate and someone to lynch.


The interesting thing here is that Koshi never shared his scumread on me and only become concerned about me being scum when I started pushing Koshi as scum. He wasn't trying to RB me just to stop KP, he was RBing me because he was concerned might be sending KP his way.

At least that's how I am interpreting that action. It adds up too, look at how concerned Koshi is about survival even though he keeps saying town is fucked this game.

I also think it's interesting that Koshi didn't nuke one of his own scum reads (like me), but nuked Kita instead.

Anyways, we can discuss Koshi later. Lynching the red check does seem like the best/only option right now.

##Vote: Fecalfeast
I can take that responsibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 24 2016 20:06 GMT
#3037
You guys make me blush talkin bout me.

I'm disinterested in today because red check and having no vote so meh.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 20:06 GMT
#3038
On January 25 2016 04:56 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:
Or don't explain if you want, since you are 100% scum judging by your filter.
Only useless stuff, nothing to help solve the game. A thousand questions that could be easily answered, which is making this quote super funny:
On January 25 2016 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 25 2016 01:25 Koshi wrote:
The only way Palmar is mafia is that if he is mafia and EXTREMELY active finding the other mafia team and killing them.

Which is the direct opposite of his play in outlaw in which he was just blending in killing people who scumread him. (which were around 7 people, gj not dead townies for being horrible)

This game he is doing way more legwork and making plays that do not progress his wincon AT ALL if he is in the other mafia team. Because then he would just wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and then do everything in the end to secure win.



Anyway. I have 0 interest in actually thinking about the game. But it amuses me if I see people think and be so wrong.


Koshi have you ever thought about reading a setup and thinking about it BEFORE joining a game?

I think you're lying about your role too, since you claimed to try taking Moriarty and FF (Moriarty) is 99% scum.

Agreed GB's filter is a steaming pile of flowers.

Not sure I agree on your Damdred TR.
Like 70% of his reads are from Day 0.
Yeah, he gets some cred for being okay with the Doc, but as you said his other activity doesn't look very town to me.

Dunno, 1/3 chance to instantly die if targetting town doesn't seem like a bet scum would want to take if they had other options, like Damdred actually had with OWS being OK to let him go Nigella.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-24 20:08:08
January 24 2016 20:07 GMT
#3039
Vote Count - Day 2


Fecalfeast (5): Koshi, disformation, Palmar, Rels, Tictock
Onegu (2): ALotSoMuch, Fecalfeast, sicklucker
sicklucker (1): Onegu
kitaman27 (0): Palmar
Tictock (0): disformation

Not Voted (8): kitaman27, Keirathi, GlowingBear, Damdred, Superbia, The Shining, sicklucker, Copcake

At this time, no one is slated to be lynched.
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.


Day 2 ends in on 00:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 24 2016 20:08 GMT
#3040
On January 25 2016 05:03 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 04:29 Rels wrote:
Koshi => The opposite of SL. I was pretty sure this guy was town because of a dumbtell, but his attitude since then is so bad I started thinking he was scum hiding behind trolling to get away for not posting a lot of serious thing. But the fact that he roleblocked TT makes him town I think. If Koshi was scum, he could have used any of his other abilities to help his team instead of trying to stop a KP. Like put a bomb on a strong townie like me or Palmar, or go to Mars with a teammate and someone to lynch.


The interesting thing here is that Koshi never shared his scumread on me and only become concerned about me being scum when I started pushing Koshi as scum. He wasn't trying to RB me just to stop KP, he was RBing me because he was concerned might be sending KP his way.

At least that's how I am interpreting that action. It adds up too, look at how concerned Koshi is about survival even though he keeps saying town is fucked this game.

I also think it's interesting that Koshi didn't nuke one of his own scum reads (like me), but nuked Kita instead.

Anyways, we can discuss Koshi later. Lynching the red check does seem like the best/only option right now.

##Vote: Fecalfeast

Seems logical to me to roleblock someone you scumread without saying you scumread him. If Koshi (as a RBer) would say he scumreads you (his RB target), there would be less chance of you carrying KP if you're scum.
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