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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 21:34 GMT
#4969
Got my EoN post all ready to go.

Should be a good one.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 21:36 GMT
#4970
Btw, I get not sharing reads makes it harder for scum to decide who they should shoot, but I really don't see a reason for total silence.

Not like it matters at this point with ~ an hour to go.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 22:59 GMT
#4976
Ok, so my predictions, Cake gets shot flips scum and GB flips Town. Scum kills The Shining. (+1?)

Slim chance Super shoots me instead (if he does he is 100% scum, like forcing town to consider using a lynch on Cake one more day is such a mafia move it's not even funny) but I'm fairly sure Shining dies due to my Ban on him.

After Cake I think Palmar and Suber as most likely to be scum. Maybe I'm way off on TS and SL, but I don't think so. Between them Palmar has done a ton of work in catching scum, it's really unlikely that he is scum and if he is he's played this very well.

Basically this leaves me looking at Super.




I took another look at his filter from D1 onward, wanted to be a bit more thorough and also look for possible associations.

I think there is a strong chance Super was with FF. FF was one of the few people I actually fins Super talking about having a strong TR on, but it feels pretty flimsy. He flipped as soon as the check was reveled but he also tried to start shenannies EoD onto me. Really odd move given how the day had been, also it's odd how sure Super has been on me being scum all game but has never given any reasoning to push it.

For reference I put all the posts related to FF I could find together, sorry if they are jumbled. Nothing really stands out, but together it looks far more like Super is coaxing FF to post and play then gives him an unexplained townread.

+ Show Spoiler [Super's Posts on FF] +
On January 20 2016 02:02 Superbia wrote:
FF post some more.

On January 20 2016 06:24 Superbia wrote:
What do you feel your chances are this game FF?

On January 20 2016 06:29 Superbia wrote:
Mind sharing the knowledge VA? Or do you want to keep it a secret for now?

Also any reads so far FF? What do you think about my alignment?

On January 20 2016 09:35 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:28 Palmar wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:15 sicklucker wrote:
1. Keirathi 1
2. Superbia 2
3. ObiWanShinobi 5
4. Rels 7
5. Palmar 10
6. geript 17?
7. Breshke20

Everyone else overlapped lol and i got last somehow...
8. Koshi
9. Cephiro
10. kitaman27
11. Vivax
12. Tictock
13. disformation
14. Fecalfeast
15. Damdred
16. AlotSomuch
17. VayneAuthority
18. The Shining
19. Onegu
20. Sicklucker
21. Copcake
22. GlowingBear


The following players need to be assigned roles due to alignment:

ceph
vivax
disfo
fecal
alot
vayne
shining
glowingbear


I like this list a lot. I think you can remove FF though. Not entirely sure yet.

On January 22 2016 09:19 Superbia wrote:
Wow FF with the actual logic bomb. Nice.

On January 22 2016 02:29 Superbia wrote:
Yeah FF got moriarty confirmed then. But I already had a decent townread on him so meh.


Then after seeing the Redcheck
On January 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
Super tired. FF actually being mafia is the most messed up thing. Godread = no more.


Probably the biggest thing here is Super's EoD reactions before FF and Kita flip, it makes very little sense why he is suddenly wanting to shenannigan onto me. Unless of course it was a last ditch move to try and save FF. From a town perspective it makes no sense, you've either decided to trust and lynch the redcheck at that point, or you've explained why FF is town or Kita is scum (or both). Super did none of those things, he accepted the redcheck (just said "oops, guess my read on FF was bad") and doesn't bring doubts up till EoD.




I'm also noticing that Super was really focused on people not claiming D1 and in general had really been focused on mechanics and roles. So it's really wierd that I'm not finding any mention of Onegu in his filter. No reaction to Onegu's late claim/role. He shot VA for having an Anti-town role but then N2 Super tries to shoot me over Onegu for reasons? Why did he care so much about VA's role being anti town, but give literally no shits that Onegu took his role and wasted Alot's role by not claiming.

This is the only post I found where Super talks about Onegu's alignment.
On January 24 2016 09:05 Superbia wrote:
Onegu is a mystery to me tbh.


I also pointed out earlier how uninterested Super seemed when the lynch was Onegu vs SL, he jumped right into talking about night actions but nothing about lynches besides some stuff that suggests he preferred not to lynch Onegu. Which looks really off given he never gave a read on Onegu or really talked about him after asking him to claim D1.

On January 28 2016 09:24 Superbia wrote:
God damnit. We should've had onegu kill off disformation with his ability and then lynched onegu. We could've forced keir to house diagnostics rels with only KP being able to interfere.






This is not really strong, but this post jumped out at me.
On January 28 2016 09:07 Superbia wrote:
Nah man. Use the resources you have. :D I have caught 100% mafia the same way.

I'm pretty sure from kita's filter alone that Vivax was likely with FF (opposite of Kita). Also leaning towards GB being a hit and on Kita's team.


The bit about GB is really wierd, how is there any indication as to who's team GB was on?

I think this is actually a slip. The only reason why Super could have any inclination about GB being on one team over the other is if Super is in fact mafia with FF and Vivax (and Onegu), it makes sense given the stuff I noticed between Super and FF as well.


Biggest thing is that don't give anyone a pass for no reason from now on. If I die tonight, please don't ignore this post, so far my reads have been pretty on point.

If I live then pick this argument apart, tell me why Super is town. If you think I'm scum tell me why.

I think this game is solved.

Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake vs Vivax/FF/Onegu/Super

And yes this means I think GB is gunna flip town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 23:19 GMT
#4988
On February 02 2016 08:11 Half the Sky wrote:


[center]Copcake, as the Shovel Knight, was nightkilled!

Palmar, as the Arrow, was nightkilled!

The body of GlowingBear, as Kenpachi, was exhumed from the grave, an innocent man.


Nailed this so far. Interesting Palmar got shot though.

##Vote: Superbia

Just to check things though Shining can verify that you took an RB? Lynch has to be between you and Super today.

I think my associations have merit and 100% one team was Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake.

So who was mafia with FF/Vivax/Onegu?

My money is on Super.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 23:22 GMT
#4993
I guess I don't 100% know that mafia can no shoot.

In this game, there will be 2 Mafia Teams of 4 players each. A mafia team wins when they outnumber the town players AND the other mafia team has been eliminated. The town wins when both mafia teams have been eliminated. Each mafia team has 2 kp on the first night. After that both teams will have 1KP per night. Each mafia team must choose a member of their team to carry out the KP. That player is still able to use any other action they might have. Mafia KP is an action and can be roleblocked.


I thought it said they could, but it just doesn't say they must use their KP.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 23:23 GMT
#4995
On February 02 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Either that or the shining is mafia and you're literally dumb enough to make a huge pre-flip post assuming your roleblock on the shining had no merits.


I can confirm this.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 23:23 GMT
#4996
Doesn't make me wrong though
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 23:27 GMT
#5000
I do owe it to myself to take one last solid look at TS.

I really did pick up on some strong associative stuff between Super/FF/Onegu though.

Idk sent a PM to confirm if mafia can no shoot or not.

Obv if mafia has to shoot it's TS, but why is he bothering then?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 23:29 GMT
#5004
Lol if mafia had to shoot then the only explanation is it being TS.

KP is missing.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 23:32 GMT
#5008
On February 02 2016 08:30 Superbia wrote:
No, mafia can no-shoot.


Then I'm like 99% sure you are the last mafia.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 01 2016 23:34 GMT
#5010
On February 02 2016 08:32 Superbia wrote:
Alternatively it could've been 4v2 yesterday.


Possible, I'll admit. Even if I don't believe it atm, my associations got me Rels and Cake.

Anyways I'll give you guys time to process my big post, and see reactions from SL and TS.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 02 2016 00:28 GMT
#5047
On February 02 2016 09:02 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 09:00 The Shining wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:57 Superbia wrote:
Why is it not TT, the shining?


The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum.

If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon.


You do realize there is like 48 hours left before this game ends for all kinds of feelings to change.

Oh and not to mention that the only way for mafia to win is to either miss-lynch me or SL or sleep.


There is a lot of stuff comeing from you that doesn't add up, this post especially.

Why is SL or you the only options for Mafia? Who do you even think is mafia right now?

You are pushing this option to sleep, which is terribad if you are scum kus you just KP and Shoot and win.

It's really not making sense to me how you are looking at this game right now if you are town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 02 2016 00:47 GMT
#5050
Yea see, this "contingency plan" is all I see you focused on.

Kus you just want us to have this idea that as long as you are alive town has a chance to win or draw.

I see a mislynch today as a lose, and that's why I want us to lynch scum today. Kapish?

Course since you are scum you'd rather try to play nice today rather that unleash the hell that scum deserves this game.

How much does it suck that Town had to find all the good shots for ya Super?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 02 2016 01:20 GMT
#5057
Well I just read the first 3 pages of The Shining's filter and I'm convinced he's town.

+ Show Spoiler +
Pffft I don't even wanna post why.

His reads are all on point in those 3 pages, and he's doing towny shit throughout.

Seriously read his filter and tell me why he's scum if you don't agree with me (looking at you SL).


So Super you'd better have a good case to get everyone else to vote me.

I'll look at SL's filter later on just in case, but I'm probably never moving my vote.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 02 2016 01:40 GMT
#5070
Your play isn't auto, it's a coinflip if you are town.

And rather than try and scumhunt today you just want us to do that.

3v1 Now
2v1 ML
Scum KP -> Win*

*50/50 Chance Super (if town) shoots correctly and is Last man standing.

Joke of an Endgame.

Especially when you consider Super had to be told to shoot Dis over me and I totally take credit for showing that Cake was gunna flip mafia and had to be Super's shot last night.

Also remember he was scumreading me pretty hard last phase, even said he might shot me still. Where has that read gone?

Cake flipped Scum, so now Super knows he's the last one, that's where.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 02 2016 01:46 GMT
#5076
SL tbh I'm half ignoring you kus you are talking pure nonsense atm.

Why are the teams I suggested not possible?
Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake vs Vivax/FF/Onegu/Super
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 02 2016 01:48 GMT
#5080
On February 02 2016 10:45 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 10:41 sicklucker wrote:
but if supers mafia he can only be mafia with rels. because he killed both cop/dis and I confirmed that the mafia still alive is not with copcake. i may as well start with seeing if that makes anysense


Yes. And if I was mafia with rels I always jump on palmar's proposed switch to the shining because I have a super high chance of getting killed in the night by the other mafia. So I would keep rels around to save me.

ALSO: I was literally the person who came up with the logic that there is always a mafia between palmar, rels, myself, and the shining. And I excluded palmar from that list. To be fair I wanted to go on the shining but there is no way I put pressure on both myself and rels in that situation.


Pretty sure that was Palmar tbh, but w.e

So this means you think TS is the last scum?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 02 2016 01:50 GMT
#5083
On February 02 2016 10:47 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 10:46 Tictock wrote:
SL tbh I'm half ignoring you kus you are talking pure nonsense atm.

Why are the teams I suggested not possible?
Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake vs Vivax/FF/Onegu/Super


I sapose they are. rels did say "i have no idea who the last mafia is" suggesting he was on the team of 2 with copcake.

which means super could have used the mafia kp on copcake...


If you haven't already, you should read my associative cases on Rels, Cake, and Super.

And you should explain why Shining is mafia.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 02 2016 01:52 GMT
#5085
On February 02 2016 10:48 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 10:46 sicklucker wrote:
On February 02 2016 08:14 Superbia wrote:
Honestly it doesn't really matter that much. The reason I didn't want anyone to talk is because palmar was discussing our number of lynches and others were as well. I was hoping mafia would fuck up and they did.

Me being alive gives us a 2nd lynch.

We lynch today and I get a shot if we miss.


wait why did you live over palmar? does this make anysense? we have no roleblockers or trackers left.

wait there should have been 2kp last night if what I said was true earlier because copcakes team should be dead since she was roleblock. fuck im doing something wrong


I have no fucking idea why I lived over palmar. Yes, there should've been 2 kp last night. The shining took TT's roleblock so:
- There's a team of 2 (copcake +1).
- The shining couldn't deliver KP.
- Mafia stacked on Palmar.

One of these is true.


*Cough*

Or mafia No shot

Kus that's important, we even talked about that one. Remember Super?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 02 2016 02:07 GMT
#5101
Yea SL you realize this is LyLo right?
I can take that responsibility.
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