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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 23 2016 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 02:41 geript wrote:@Kita Original Message From geript: So far I've never read Breshke wrong. Here's what I use: On January 26 2015 17:02 geript wrote:
I've spent the last few hours looking at Breshke's meta. I really don't see him being mafia. Like there are some similarities to both his town and mafia play, but it looks far more like his town game. How he interacts with the thread and reads seems to be the key to understanding his meta imo. Like his mafia games are practically commentary/summary of the thread and I'm not really seeing that here.
I don't think I want to lynch Breshke. On January 26 2015 17:53 geript wrote:
Like Breshke really doesn't post as Katie. He tends to just pick at minor stuff on the periphery. Basically, when he's town, his thoughts interact with other people and the thread. It's like (if you read things in context) you can see the post that causes the inspiring thought and how it plays out. How he logically moves with his thought process and what he's asking about. When he's scum, he plays a lot like Varus in team fights. He just sort of pokes at what's going on and doesn't really try to interact in what's going on whatsoever. hopefully that helps. This is why I retracted my TR on Breshke. When I read him in the thread he looked great to the eyeball check. But when you filter him you realize the wheels aren't churning. Wait, so you're PMing yourself your notes on Breshke based on the "Original Message" part, yet you're carrying out a conversation with yourself? I'm so confused o.O
oh lol that's from a different game isn't it. I was worried you were going a bit coo coo for a sec -_-
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On January 23 2016 00:15 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 13:17 Tictock wrote:On January 22 2016 12:11 disformation wrote:On January 22 2016 12:03 Tictock wrote:On January 22 2016 04:42 Tictock wrote:On January 21 2016 20:36 Rels wrote:OK caught up. First thing (shamelessly stolen from disfo + completed): + Show Spoiler [role list] +
1. Keirathi - house
2. Superbia - CPR doc
3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella
4. Rels - Captain Malcolm
5. Palmar - arrow
6. geript - link
7. Breshke - holmes
8. Koshi - Werner von braun
9. Cephiro - dreamflower
10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist
11. Vivax - ???
12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???)
13. disformation - Watson
14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty
15. Damdred - doc
16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27
17. VayneAuthority - hero
18. The Shining - TTV
19. Onegu - ???
20. Sicklucker - ???
21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???)
22. GlowingBear - Flowey
Copcake said she was randomed a role so I assume it means she got a mysterious challenger. If your role was stolen you need to claim it now. If you claim that after D1 we will lynch you first to check.These person need to claim what role they got: 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - ??? 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) Lynch me today if all you care about is what my role is. Cool, so did I. My position hasn't changed. 4 am not sober have tlake with a close friend for like 4hours straight. will not decide now. there are two posttibilites a= imma just lynch you for annyoing me v) imma say fuck roles and just lynch the guy i think is the most likely to flip scum. still might be you but i think vivianx is still more scummy. also random note. despite saying that maybe we should stop talking about roles and mechanics and ocus and flwoer s we still end up talking only about roles and mechanics and picks again... Funny that you say this is the same breath that you're pushing me to claim my role... I really don't see you putting in much real thought this game Dis. You've spent a lot of time focused on me, but mostly you're just going with the flow. I'm used to town!Dis picking up on something and agonizing over it for half the day going back and forth and asking questions to try and make up your mind. Here you are basically agreeing with most of what people say and not sharing much of your own thinking. I get that you don't like me right now (you shouldn't), but honestly thinking I'm scum? I doubt it. Your not asking yourself real questions about what I'm doing, like why would I snipe your spot as scum when I saw you townreading me? Feels like I've become a scumread more out of convenience to you than any actual conviction behind it. Let me quote some beautiful advise I got during one of my NSM games: Show nested quote +It takes a long while before you understand how meta actually even works. You see, meta is a trap. You think it's a beautiful Asian chick in those amazing school girl outfits with the typical anime hair. Then you realize it's not a chick at all and you done fucked up. Trust me,[...] Bonus points if someone is able to guess who told me that.  Also you can be annoying town.
Earlier you kinda agreed with my read on you ( said you understood where my "too agreeable" point was comeing from) now you dismiss my argument with "meta is bad"
Why does me being bad and useing meta mean I'm town but me sniping your number pick and refusing to reviel my role make me mafia?
I think your just surface level reacting and trying to difuse my arguments about you without really adressing things.
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On January 23 2016 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 02:41 geript wrote:@Kita Original Message From geript: So far I've never read Breshke wrong. Here's what I use: On January 26 2015 17:02 geript wrote:
I've spent the last few hours looking at Breshke's meta. I really don't see him being mafia. Like there are some similarities to both his town and mafia play, but it looks far more like his town game. How he interacts with the thread and reads seems to be the key to understanding his meta imo. Like his mafia games are practically commentary/summary of the thread and I'm not really seeing that here.
I don't think I want to lynch Breshke. On January 26 2015 17:53 geript wrote:
Like Breshke really doesn't post as Katie. He tends to just pick at minor stuff on the periphery. Basically, when he's town, his thoughts interact with other people and the thread. It's like (if you read things in context) you can see the post that causes the inspiring thought and how it plays out. How he logically moves with his thought process and what he's asking about. When he's scum, he plays a lot like Varus in team fights. He just sort of pokes at what's going on and doesn't really try to interact in what's going on whatsoever. hopefully that helps. This is why I retracted my TR on Breshke. When I read him in the thread he looked great to the eyeball check. But when you filter him you realize the wheels aren't churning. Wait, so you're PMing yourself your notes on Breshke based on the "Original Message" part, yet you're carrying out a conversation with yourself? I'm so confused o.O
Whenever I find a good meta read on people, I pm it to myself to keep. That's from a while back, but I check them to see if it's relevant.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 23 2016 03:09 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:On January 23 2016 02:41 geript wrote:@Kita Original Message From geript: So far I've never read Breshke wrong. Here's what I use: On January 26 2015 17:02 geript wrote:
I've spent the last few hours looking at Breshke's meta. I really don't see him being mafia. Like there are some similarities to both his town and mafia play, but it looks far more like his town game. How he interacts with the thread and reads seems to be the key to understanding his meta imo. Like his mafia games are practically commentary/summary of the thread and I'm not really seeing that here.
I don't think I want to lynch Breshke. On January 26 2015 17:53 geript wrote:
Like Breshke really doesn't post as Katie. He tends to just pick at minor stuff on the periphery. Basically, when he's town, his thoughts interact with other people and the thread. It's like (if you read things in context) you can see the post that causes the inspiring thought and how it plays out. How he logically moves with his thought process and what he's asking about. When he's scum, he plays a lot like Varus in team fights. He just sort of pokes at what's going on and doesn't really try to interact in what's going on whatsoever. hopefully that helps. This is why I retracted my TR on Breshke. When I read him in the thread he looked great to the eyeball check. But when you filter him you realize the wheels aren't churning. Wait, so you're PMing yourself your notes on Breshke based on the "Original Message" part, yet you're carrying out a conversation with yourself? I'm so confused o.O Whenever I find a good meta read on people, I pm it to myself to keep. That's from a while back, but I check them to see if it's relevant.
Got any on me? :D
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So are there actually reasons why we are keeping Onegu alive or do we just want to kill Vivax who has given reads that can only be "as wrong" as literally anybody else who has been playing this game and keep people like Onegu alive who misread me town when I am mafia and misread Palmar when he is obvious town?
Seriously. You can't argue with this logic.
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Trying to wrap my head around the Onegu vs Vivax situation.
I think Vivax looks worse. but Onegu has been MIA and has not claimed.
And Koshi's attitude is super strange to me.
Might be a partner defending Vivax? Yeah, that is unflipped association and therefore bad, I just don't get some of the things he says and Onegu is a pretty easy target to switch to.
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The fact you claimed one role doesn't mean that you are town or not vivax.
Like mafia could have picked let's say a cop role and pretend to be cop.
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On January 23 2016 03:15 disformation wrote:
Trying to wrap my head around the Onegu vs Vivax situation.
I think Vivax looks worse. but Onegu has been MIA and has not claimed.
And Koshi's attitude is super strange to me.
Might be a partner defending Vivax? Yeah, that is unflipped association and therefore bad, I just don't get some of the things he says and Onegu is a pretty easy target to switch to.
Goddamn you are mafia.
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On January 23 2016 03:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 03:15 disformation wrote:
Trying to wrap my head around the Onegu vs Vivax situation.
I think Vivax looks worse. but Onegu has been MIA and has not claimed.
And Koshi's attitude is super strange to me.
Might be a partner defending Vivax? Yeah, that is unflipped association and therefore bad, I just don't get some of the things he says and Onegu is a pretty easy target to switch to. Goddamn you are mafia.
And if you are not mafia please teach me how to play like you do. 7 pages of filter and 0 chance a mafia would ever kill you.
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On January 23 2016 03:13 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 03:09 geript wrote:On January 23 2016 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:On January 23 2016 02:41 geript wrote:@Kita Original Message From geript: So far I've never read Breshke wrong. Here's what I use: On January 26 2015 17:02 geript wrote:
I've spent the last few hours looking at Breshke's meta. I really don't see him being mafia. Like there are some similarities to both his town and mafia play, but it looks far more like his town game. How he interacts with the thread and reads seems to be the key to understanding his meta imo. Like his mafia games are practically commentary/summary of the thread and I'm not really seeing that here.
I don't think I want to lynch Breshke. On January 26 2015 17:53 geript wrote:
Like Breshke really doesn't post as Katie. He tends to just pick at minor stuff on the periphery. Basically, when he's town, his thoughts interact with other people and the thread. It's like (if you read things in context) you can see the post that causes the inspiring thought and how it plays out. How he logically moves with his thought process and what he's asking about. When he's scum, he plays a lot like Varus in team fights. He just sort of pokes at what's going on and doesn't really try to interact in what's going on whatsoever. hopefully that helps. This is why I retracted my TR on Breshke. When I read him in the thread he looked great to the eyeball check. But when you filter him you realize the wheels aren't churning. Wait, so you're PMing yourself your notes on Breshke based on the "Original Message" part, yet you're carrying out a conversation with yourself? I'm so confused o.O Whenever I find a good meta read on people, I pm it to myself to keep. That's from a while back, but I check them to see if it's relevant. Got any on me? :D
Nothing fully formed where I can explain or copy/paste in a coherent way. But a lot of your mafia meta comprises of looking super active and in everything while posting exceptionally infrequently. You're more concise as scum. You pick and choose better without being drawn into gnat fights.
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On January 23 2016 02:12 Koshi wrote:
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PSII: I am extremely talented at this game and I have 0 interest to explain to you all why I am a genius and why this is the best play.
That is the strange stuff I am referring, too.
Also you ahven't explained your TR on Vivax. You only said why Onegu looks terrible.
So I am having trouble seeing you as town.
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Like as Mafia you focus on and are better at thread control
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On January 23 2016 03:21 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 02:12 Koshi wrote:
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PSII: I am extremely talented at this game and I have 0 interest to explain to you all why I am a genius and why this is the best play. That is the strange stuff I am referring, too. Also you ahven't explained your TR on Vivax. You only said why Onegu looks terrible. So I am having trouble seeing you as town.
My explanation is that I am able to read words and sentences.
But it is ok to push me as mafia. I even prefer it this way. Just try to repeat the fact I am mafia a lot. Preferably once an hour, and every 30 minutes during the night.
I got to play indoor soccer. Well I got to leave to go play it.
Onegu lynch is 1000000x better than Vivax lynch. I know this without reading anything xcept a couple posts from Vivax earlier and Onegu filter.
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Also the fact that there is 1 role out there that is confirmed mafia and the only role we do not know unless people are lying is the one from Onegu.
Fucking easiest lynch ever.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 23 2016 03:22 geript wrote:
Like as Mafia you focus on and are better at thread control
Next scum game I'm going Ritalin free. You'll never see it coming.
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On January 23 2016 03:25 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 03:22 geript wrote:
Like as Mafia you focus on and are better at thread control Next scum game I'm going Ritalin free. You'll never see it coming.
Lol.
I don't quite think ASM is scum. He was really easy to spot out last game and it's not the same. Granted small data size.
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So. No progress on the Onegu vs Vivax thing...
other than that Koshi has some magical reasons to TR Vivax that I am apparently too dumb to get. Great.
Kinda unhappy atm.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
@Onegu, is there a reason why you refuse to claim?
We've got roles like House, Holmes, Link, Sy N Tist out in the open. Do you really think mafia is going to snipe you tonight over all the others if you were to claim something like City Councilman? -_-
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On January 23 2016 03:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 03:18 Koshi wrote:On January 23 2016 03:15 disformation wrote:
Trying to wrap my head around the Onegu vs Vivax situation.
I think Vivax looks worse. but Onegu has been MIA and has not claimed.
And Koshi's attitude is super strange to me.
Might be a partner defending Vivax? Yeah, that is unflipped association and therefore bad, I just don't get some of the things he says and Onegu is a pretty easy target to switch to. Goddamn you are mafia. And if you are not mafia please teach me how to play like you do. 7 pages of filter and 0 chance a mafia would ever kill you.
So far I only have been shot by mafia when I went to CC their fakeclaim during my first game on this site.
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