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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 14 2016 10:07 GMT
#261
nearly 8 months and i think i can count the number of times my kid has slept silently through an entire night on 2 hands....fml
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 14 2016 10:07 GMT
#262
On January 14 2016 18:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:23 Xatalos wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you were talking about Trfel and DYH there. I somehow thought you were talking about ritoky.

I disagree with you. I don't think it's likely at all ritoky does that as mafia.


Could you explain? I don't really follow either of those points :/ Sadly.

I don't see why ritoky:
1).."makes enemies" with two townies
2)..does call his scumbuddy scum (yes he puts suspicion on DYH because if he is just gonna claim 100% associative read that's retarded and bullshit 100%)

..when he can just.. not to do that.

This is pointless and frankly just wrong defense.

clearly rayn is pushing an agenda here.

And this is just straight out bullshit Palmar. If you are gonna claim this is "wrong" then point out why it is wrong and why me making "wrong conclusion" is scummy. You are just saying shit without any substance.
table for two on a tv tray
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 14 2016 10:08 GMT
#263
rayn is defending me....wut? that's a first.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 14 2016 10:09 GMT
#264
On January 14 2016 19:07 ritoky wrote:
nearly 8 months and i think i can count the number of times my kid has slept silently through an entire night on 2 hands....fml

It gets better I promise.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 14 2016 10:09 GMT
#265
On January 14 2016 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 18:47 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:23 Xatalos wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you were talking about Trfel and DYH there. I somehow thought you were talking about ritoky.

I disagree with you. I don't think it's likely at all ritoky does that as mafia.


Could you explain? I don't really follow either of those points :/ Sadly.

I don't see why ritoky:
1).."makes enemies" with two townies
2)..does call his scumbuddy scum (yes he puts suspicion on DYH because if he is just gonna claim 100% associative read that's retarded and bullshit 100%)

..when he can just.. not to do that.

This is pointless and frankly just wrong defense.

clearly rayn is pushing an agenda here.

And this is just straight out bullshit Palmar. If you are gonna claim this is "wrong" then point out why it is wrong and why me making "wrong conclusion" is scummy. You are just saying shit without any substance.

I have explained it rayn, you're just barely reading the thread so you don't notice. You're making an associative read based on your own misrepresentation. If ritoky is not mafia, then this is not the reason he is not mafia.
Computer says mafia
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 10:09 GMT
#266
Well at least we got some interesting content into the thread recently
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 14 2016 10:10 GMT
#267
On January 14 2016 19:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 19:07 ritoky wrote:
nearly 8 months and i think i can count the number of times my kid has slept silently through an entire night on 2 hands....fml

It gets better I promise.


probably gonna be a bit, wife wants a 2nd in the near future; and believe it or not "i want a good night's sleep" doesn't convince her to the contrary.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 14 2016 10:10 GMT
#268
On January 14 2016 19:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Except i don't blantantly, intentionally misrepresent anyone when i am mafia.

What a weird thing to say......

No it's not, i literally will or would never ever intentionally conclude a post says the OPPOSITE it in fact does, which is what Palmar is saying here. That's just straight out retarded to assume so.

The thing is, as i clearly explained, that i misread one word in Xatalos' post. That doesn't make me anything, except for misreading a word.

and with the wave of a wand a misrepresentation becomes a misreading.

I am not a big fan of meta, but I recall you in multiple games being someone who doesn't think twice as mafia about subtly misrepresenting people if it pushes your agenda. The difference is that you rarely get caught.

feel free to argue this if you want to..
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 14 2016 10:11 GMT
#269
On January 14 2016 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 19:05 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Except i don't blantantly, intentionally misrepresent anyone when i am mafia.

What a weird thing to say......

No it's not, i literally will or would never ever intentionally conclude a post says the OPPOSITE it in fact does, which is what Palmar is saying here. That's just straight out retarded to assume so.

The thing is, as i clearly explained, that i misread one word in Xatalos' post. That doesn't make me anything, except for misreading a word.

and with the wave of a wand a misrepresentation becomes a misreading.

I am not a big fan of meta, but I recall you in multiple games being someone who doesn't think twice as mafia about subtly misrepresenting people if it pushes your agenda. The difference is that you rarely get caught.

feel free to argue this if you want to..

I don't need to argue facts man. It's you who must prove that this isn't so.
Computer says mafia
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 14 2016 10:12 GMT
#270
rayn you wanted the associative shit explained right?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 14 2016 10:13 GMT
#271
On January 14 2016 19:10 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 19:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:07 ritoky wrote:
nearly 8 months and i think i can count the number of times my kid has slept silently through an entire night on 2 hands....fml

It gets better I promise.


probably gonna be a bit, wife wants a 2nd in the near future; and believe it or not "i want a good night's sleep" doesn't convince her to the contrary.

+ Show Spoiler +
Good luck with that. Try the "worldwide overpopulation" argument, and if/when that fails try the "the world is a dark and depraved place and you don't want to bring another child here" argument. If both fail then your wife has no soul and you're doomed to have more babies.

Can you explain in further detail your read on Trfel?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 10:13 GMT
#272
On January 14 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:47 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:23 Xatalos wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you were talking about Trfel and DYH there. I somehow thought you were talking about ritoky.

I disagree with you. I don't think it's likely at all ritoky does that as mafia.


Could you explain? I don't really follow either of those points :/ Sadly.

I don't see why ritoky:
1).."makes enemies" with two townies
2)..does call his scumbuddy scum (yes he puts suspicion on DYH because if he is just gonna claim 100% associative read that's retarded and bullshit 100%)

..when he can just.. not to do that.

This is pointless and frankly just wrong defense.

clearly rayn is pushing an agenda here.

And this is just straight out bullshit Palmar. If you are gonna claim this is "wrong" then point out why it is wrong and why me making "wrong conclusion" is scummy. You are just saying shit without any substance.

I have explained it rayn, you're just barely reading the thread so you don't notice. You're making an associative read based on your own misrepresentation. If ritoky is not mafia, then this is not the reason he is not mafia.


Well I guess it's true that that's a pretty weak reason to townread ritoky... Is it still clearly an "agenda"? Would he stubbornly defend either his teammate or some random townie for no real benefit?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 14 2016 10:13 GMT
#273
On January 14 2016 19:10 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 19:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:07 ritoky wrote:
nearly 8 months and i think i can count the number of times my kid has slept silently through an entire night on 2 hands....fml

It gets better I promise.


probably gonna be a bit, wife wants a 2nd in the near future; and believe it or not "i want a good night's sleep" doesn't convince her to the contrary.

There's also a huge difference between "wakes up, so I grab the thing out of it's crib, stick it next to me wand we both fall asleep again" and "wakes up, cries between 3am and 5am, fml".

At 8 months you should be fairly close to the former scenario.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 14 2016 10:13 GMT
#274
On January 14 2016 19:12 ritoky wrote:
rayn you wanted the associative shit explained right?

not really.
I'd rather see you reconsider your read on Trfel based on what i said about his meta, since that's what your scumread on him is based on.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 14 2016 10:15 GMT
#275
On January 14 2016 19:13 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:47 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:23 Xatalos wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you were talking about Trfel and DYH there. I somehow thought you were talking about ritoky.

I disagree with you. I don't think it's likely at all ritoky does that as mafia.


Could you explain? I don't really follow either of those points :/ Sadly.

I don't see why ritoky:
1).."makes enemies" with two townies
2)..does call his scumbuddy scum (yes he puts suspicion on DYH because if he is just gonna claim 100% associative read that's retarded and bullshit 100%)

..when he can just.. not to do that.

This is pointless and frankly just wrong defense.

clearly rayn is pushing an agenda here.

And this is just straight out bullshit Palmar. If you are gonna claim this is "wrong" then point out why it is wrong and why me making "wrong conclusion" is scummy. You are just saying shit without any substance.

I have explained it rayn, you're just barely reading the thread so you don't notice. You're making an associative read based on your own misrepresentation. If ritoky is not mafia, then this is not the reason he is not mafia.


Well I guess it's true that that's a pretty weak reason to townread ritoky... Is it still clearly an "agenda"? Would he stubbornly defend either his teammate or some random townie for no real benefit?

The benefit would absolutely be there if I hadn't caught him.

rayn is on thin ice now and it's cracking. He's been caught on three different things now.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 14 2016 10:16 GMT
#276
On January 14 2016 19:13 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:47 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:23 Xatalos wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you were talking about Trfel and DYH there. I somehow thought you were talking about ritoky.

I disagree with you. I don't think it's likely at all ritoky does that as mafia.


Could you explain? I don't really follow either of those points :/ Sadly.

I don't see why ritoky:
1).."makes enemies" with two townies
2)..does call his scumbuddy scum (yes he puts suspicion on DYH because if he is just gonna claim 100% associative read that's retarded and bullshit 100%)

..when he can just.. not to do that.

This is pointless and frankly just wrong defense.

clearly rayn is pushing an agenda here.

And this is just straight out bullshit Palmar. If you are gonna claim this is "wrong" then point out why it is wrong and why me making "wrong conclusion" is scummy. You are just saying shit without any substance.

I have explained it rayn, you're just barely reading the thread so you don't notice. You're making an associative read based on your own misrepresentation. If ritoky is not mafia, then this is not the reason he is not mafia.


Well I guess it's true that that's a pretty weak reason to townread ritoky... Is it still clearly an "agenda"? Would he stubbornly defend either his teammate or some random townie for no real benefit?

No it isn't a weak reason. It's almost the same fucking reason i figured out Damdred was town in the last game, it stands true almost always. Because if ritoky is scum that is just bad scumplay.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 14 2016 10:17 GMT
#277
Actually, four different things.

There is no way he thinks I'm mafia when I'm bringing up thoughtful, insightful analysis to the thread. It's original research that is creating a ton of useful discussion, and yet he thinks I'm mafia for it.

I think people will soon be getting the grim picture this paints of rayn.
Computer says mafia
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 10:17 GMT
#278
At least Palmar's posts are entertaining to read
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 10:18 GMT
#279
On January 14 2016 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 19:13 Xatalos wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:47 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:23 Xatalos wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you were talking about Trfel and DYH there. I somehow thought you were talking about ritoky.

I disagree with you. I don't think it's likely at all ritoky does that as mafia.


Could you explain? I don't really follow either of those points :/ Sadly.

I don't see why ritoky:
1).."makes enemies" with two townies
2)..does call his scumbuddy scum (yes he puts suspicion on DYH because if he is just gonna claim 100% associative read that's retarded and bullshit 100%)

..when he can just.. not to do that.

This is pointless and frankly just wrong defense.

clearly rayn is pushing an agenda here.

And this is just straight out bullshit Palmar. If you are gonna claim this is "wrong" then point out why it is wrong and why me making "wrong conclusion" is scummy. You are just saying shit without any substance.

I have explained it rayn, you're just barely reading the thread so you don't notice. You're making an associative read based on your own misrepresentation. If ritoky is not mafia, then this is not the reason he is not mafia.


Well I guess it's true that that's a pretty weak reason to townread ritoky... Is it still clearly an "agenda"? Would he stubbornly defend either his teammate or some random townie for no real benefit?

No it isn't a weak reason. It's almost the same fucking reason i figured out Damdred was town in the last game, it stands true almost always. Because if ritoky is scum that is just bad scumplay.


I don't think that's necessarily the case... Like I explained, there are reasons why it would benefit him to say that in either case.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 10:18 GMT
#280
(as scum)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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