EPTOn January 13 2016 04:19 nooniansoong wrote:
fine show me the smiley thing lol
fine show me the smiley thing lol
Not relevant to this game though in that whether this point is correct or not (yours or mine) it doesn't help us.
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Not relevant to this game though in that whether this point is correct or not (yours or mine) it doesn't help us. | ||
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On January 11 2016 08:40 Tubesock wrote: Uhhh you actually think Giygas and I can be mafia together? Still haven't answered. Can you explain? Your entrance post was all nice with numbers and shit. So, you read the thread obviously. Why do/did you think GiygaS and I are both scum? | ||
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mderg is town. He strongly towned raynpelikoneet. He voted GiygaS after my case, went to bed and then reconsidered. He then moved to Boxer making him 2 votes. He looks like he got weirded out at the end by all the malaise so he bailed with his top townread onto someone who was about equal. Almost all of his posts have a read in them. I couldn't find his slOosh nor GGtemplar reads nor if he had a lynch pool. But by his actions, it seemed like either Boxerfred or Nooniansoong. Comparing mderg and nooniansoongs, I definitely have more of a sense of what he's thinking than Noon. so mafia!mderg bails from a wagon that at the last second giving up towncred and gaining certain scrutiny? I don't think the eod was all that hectic. Only Rayn was yelling for movement, no one else really ever voiced a will to move. I was the other wagon, and I think if anyone should have felt things were hectic it would be me. I easily imagine town getting quesy at the last minute and switching to the towniest towner of towns. That seems more likely than him trying to save his buddy. If he was going to save his buddy he'd have jumped to me. I'd have been easily killed. It wouldn't be that tough to explain away hammering a bad towny. It's been done many times before. + Show Spoiler [rayn towniest towner of townville] + On January 09 2016 18:33 mderg wrote: rayn has pretty much been the towniest towner that ever towned so far. I might have had one of the best reasons possible to peace out... it was 2am here  + Show Spoiler [scum darth] + On January 09 2016 19:09 mderg wrote: I don't like darthfoley so far because of this: Feels like the stuff you come up with, if you're trying to scumread someone just for the sake of scumreading people. + Show Spoiler [more explain of darth] + On January 09 2016 19:37 mderg wrote: This would have been better instead of the first quote Some more explanation: He scumreads two people for not doing things how they promised to do things. But if you really think about it, scum usually thinks much more about their appearance in things like this and town just plays how they think on the spot. So it actually makes much more sense for town to contradict what they said a few hours before. This makes me think darthfoley didn't think about it and just went: contradiction --> free scumread + Show Spoiler [VA & Tube easy scumreads] + On January 10 2016 10:16 mderg wrote: I don't really know about me but vayne and tubesock feel like really easy scumreads to have + Show Spoiler [Should add kmatt to pool] + On January 10 2016 10:25 mderg wrote: Makes sense. At least kamtt should be added, though + Show Spoiler [Eden weird feels] + On January 10 2016 19:54 mderg wrote: Feeling weird about Eden. I like what he says especially in the Tubesock Giygas thing. But I don't like how he says things, feels like an indifferent observer. + Show Spoiler [Vote count with his added in] + On January 10 2016 22:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: EditedVote Count Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh GiygaS (3): Tubesock, Eden1892, mderg slOosh (1): VayneAuthority Koshi (1): boxerfred boxerfred (1): GGTeMpLaR nooniansoong (1): Raynpelikoneet Not voted (1): Kmatt, Currently, Tubesock is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread. + Show Spoiler [unvotes GiygaS] + On January 11 2016 05:09 mderg wrote: The more I think about Tube's case the less I like the GiygaS lynch... ##unvote + Show Spoiler [Boxer Vote at 2:09 till] + On January 11 2016 05:51 mderg wrote: Seriously, I'm fucking lost this game. voting boxerfred because the only thing he's done is scumreading Koshi for things that aren't scummy. On January 10 2016 22:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: EditedVote Count Tubesock (2): Koshi, GiygaS, VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892, slOosh (1): VayneAuthority Koshi (1): boxerfred boxerfred (2): GGTeMpLaR, mderg nooniansoong (1): Raynpelikoneet Not voted (1): Kmatt, Currently, Tubesock is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread. + Show Spoiler [Noon playing similiar to last towngame] + On January 11 2016 07:35 mderg wrote: He's at least playing pretty similar to his last towngame + Show Spoiler [Noon wasn't useful last game] + On January 11 2016 07:53 mderg wrote: Well, kush is producing less content than the last game I've played with him. And even in that game he was not producing enough content for me. I can definitely see where you're coming from. + Show Spoiler [votes at :59] + On January 11 2016 07:59 mderg wrote: ##unvote ##Vote nooniansoong On January 11 2016 08:00 mderg wrote: fuck it. voting kush Boxerfred dies. Didn't really see any reads. One post that said Noon and Boxer may have looked better but since consensus was ok with Boxer it had to be wrong. + Show Spoiler [Explains Shenany] + On January 12 2016 04:47 mderg wrote: I wasn't voting you for lack of content. That played a big part in it but it was not what put you above boxerfred for the lynch. You two were practically the same to me, you probably even looked a bit better. But everybody seemed fine with the boxerfred lynch, so I thought it somehow had to be wrong Votes me. Cause duh. | ||
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Tubesock
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And just because someone does something YOU don't understand doesn't mean it's stupid. Not at all. Anyway, I have to work tonight. So, adios. I may or may not be back. | ||
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darthfoley is...town Bah. I'm kinda running out of time for what I want to do today. There were about 3 things that I saw that showed that darthfoley wasn't reading the thread. Little mistakes. I want to say slOosh or GGtemplar pointed out one early game which darth got heat on. He also was like "tube has only done GiygaS all day and night" and I responded pretty immediately with a quote of one of my quotes showing him he was wrong. Eden saw the same thing. Then his waffle voting. This shows town viewpoints. Scum generally has an excuse for everything they do. You can catch scum by 1 or 2 little things, but if you can make a case for miles and miles it means he's not caring about any inconsistencies. Which means he's not focused on survival, he's focused on solving and finding the mafia. Just trust me on this AFTER I am lynched and you know nothing I have done is WIFOM and is pure of intention. + Show Spoiler [entrance tr Ray scum GGt] + On January 09 2016 13:33 darthfoley wrote: Hi guys, just got back from The Revenant; it's badass if you're into the genre. A little long at times but Leo + Tom Hardy is great. Anyhow, excited to play some mafia. This is my first time playing on forums, although I have played a lot of irl mafia so a lot of stuff should transfer hopefully. Reading through the past 5 pages, so far I am getting a town read from rayne, He seems very logical so far in his thinking of Giygas and sloosh. I agree that Templar's opening was kinda awkward and confusing, but as an inexperienced player I feel where you're coming from. I do think it's strange that Templar talks in his opening post about "toning it down a bit" and then doesn't really contribute much, followed by a vote on sloosh. It seems like he's already deviating from the plan he set up an hour ago, leading me to have a scum read on him so far + Show Spoiler [votes Koshi] + On January 09 2016 16:31 darthfoley wrote: Koshi trying to sway Rayne's town read on sloosh seems out of place to me, given that Sloosh has been a pretty active poster so far; it contradicts one of his first posts in the game. The Noonian vote would make more sense if we'd already gone passed some time for a low poster to be identified, so yea his reads have to be more than simply activity. On January 09 2016 16:34 darthfoley wrote: I'm also voting Koshi as it stands. The more I look at his posts, the less helpful they seem to the Town. ##Vote: Koshi + Show Spoiler [likes this Eden fellow] + On January 09 2016 16:58 darthfoley wrote: I like this Eden fellow, so crisply formatted + Show Spoiler [nulls slOosh, towns GiygaS] + On January 09 2016 17:13 darthfoley wrote: Well, originally I thought that the conversation's direction regarding sloosh was pretty productive. It got him talking, and also gave out a decent amount of info to sift through, which you've courteously done. Out of all the active players so far, I think rayne has been the most town; his posts are well thought out and his questions are inquisitive. So, I looked at Koshi closer because he was one of the adamant Sloosh scum posters next to rayne. For me, I am mainly am just confused as to why he's been reluctant to back off Sloosh after saying he wouldn't target active townspeople on day 1. Maybe he strictly means he won't vote for active townspeople but still target them in discussion, though his grilling of Sloosh followed by a pivot towards a poster with no history seems out of place and too random for my liking. He cites "terrible" reasons that he probably won't remember in the morning, which basically provides no information about anything at all. Why couldn't he include at least an outline of something relevant? I'm unclear on Sloosh, because some of his questioning lacks a clear direction and looks kind of filler. I think Giygas is town as of now. Your point on his intuitive search for more info at the start of the game re game setup is an angle I hadn't thought of. + Show Spoiler [VA vote, null mderg, town Boxer ] + On January 10 2016 04:00 darthfoley wrote: Yea I see what you're saying. It was contradictory, because he does end up following the outline that he posted early on. I'm rescinding my Koshi vote for now. I have spun myself in circles trying to read some of the active posters, so here's what I think on some of the less active people: VA- I filtered his posts and I found very little substance. + Show Spoiler + logic dictates that we are playing on setup 3, as that is the most common number chosen on a 4 way choice. I am getting scum vibes already from Sloosh just gonna throw that out there just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work He's struggling to create a filter most likely mafia i suck at mafia but i have one of the best memories on this site. I remember playing mafia with sloosh. " he plays like oatsmaster" is so troll if he actually doesnt remember playing with me lol. Not like it was THAT long ago First, he blindly comments on how logic tells us we're playing on setup 3, with no actual logic. Maybe this is a joke I missed or something? Then, he gets the ball rolling on Sloosh, tells everyone he's bad at Mafia, ties him to another player some people (e.g. me) don't know, and peaces out. He's generated pages of discussion on someone without having to contribute to it at all. This is pretty scummy to me mderg- You conveniently missed my follow up post re GGTemplar and how I misread what he wrote. I thought he was talking about toning down day 1 accusations, not early read defending in the late game. I don't have a read on mderg but I'm surprised you missed a post that doesn't follow the narrative of me being scum boxerfred- I like the way he has posted. He's analyzing/questioning peoples' judgments on the Koshi town read. He hasn't just given town reads or scum reads, he included both which is most helpful for the town. ##Unvote: Koshi ##Vote: VayneAuthority That's all I have for now + Show Spoiler [scums me] + On January 10 2016 10:08 darthfoley wrote: This is Tubesock's only post of the day and I'm not a fan. Easy reads on sloosh, Noonian? None of these reads have any reasoning behind them. The vagueness with things like tone or "weird scuzzies" make me think scum + Show Spoiler [Votes me after GiygaS case, before my…] + On January 10 2016 12:35 darthfoley wrote: ##Unvote: VayneAuthority ##Vote: Tubesock On January 10 2016 15:30 rsoultin wrote: Edited Vote Count Tubesock (4): Eden1892, Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley slOosh (1): GGTeMpLaR, VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong Koshi (1): boxerfred Not voted (4): mderg, Kmatt, Raynpelikoneet, slOosh, Tubesock, VayneAuthority Currently, Tubesock is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread. + Show Spoiler [Likes Tube defense, unvotes] + On January 11 2016 01:45 darthfoley wrote: Good morning I like the way Tubesock has defended himself over the past 3-4 pages so i'm ##unvoting for now. + Show Spoiler [most suspicious of Giy/VA] + On January 11 2016 01:56 darthfoley wrote: Right now I'm most suspicious of GiygaS or VA for a red D1 lynch, but I'd also like to hear the case on boxerfred + Show Spoiler [Votes VA again] + On January 11 2016 05:28 darthfoley wrote: Given how this Tubesock/GiygaS has progressed, i'm more confident in my vote for VA. He hasn't posted anything recently, and I find very little substance in what he has posted. I'm with you on this one sloosh ##Vote: VayneAuthority + Show Spoiler [votes Tube] + On January 11 2016 06:28 darthfoley wrote: I read through VA's filters from the previous two games and I see what rayne is saying. VA's D1 posts are consistently not substantive as town. I don't see any sense in considering Rayne as a better lynch than Noonian on D1, so I'm back on Tubesock. ##Unvote On January 11 2016 06:49 darthfoley wrote: Rayne is saying that if Tubesock were indeed town, he would respond to my post or GiygaS by saying, "I see why you think this is scummy, but this is why i'm town" instead, he defends himself by saying "I see why you think this is scummy, but it's actually scummy in other ways." This seems counter-intuitive for a town to argue On January 11 2016 07:00 darthfoley wrote: ##Vote: Tubesock Granted, they are 30 minutes apart, i'm treating them as 1 post for hopefully obvious reasons. On January 11 2016 06:25 Trfel wrote: Edited Unofficial Vote Count Tubesock (4): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet, darthfoley VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892 boxerfred (2): GGTeMpLaR, mderg slOosh (1): VayneAuthority Koshi (1): boxerfred Not voted (2): Kmatt, Currently, Tubesock is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread. Couple examples of him not reading. | ||
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On January 14 2016 03:50 Eden1892 wrote: Koshi stop being dumb. It's pretty obvious that I decided that Tubesock was town from all of my posting before day 2. I'm allowed to change my mind as more evidence presents itself. Are you tellin me that because at one point I was sure there had to be mafia between Tubesock and Giygas that I am forever beholden to think that, even if I tr one of them later and the other claims cop? Because that's fucking dumb as as shit. You bitch about bad posting but what the fuck are you even doing? Not questioning Vayne or kush who are for sure the real top suspects outside of darth (and I guess Tubesock with the red check). Quit harassing me every time I check in. You are so goddamned tedious to play with. He's fake raging too. There is no reason he should be mad. Town lynched mafia day 1. And according to him we have a lock scum with a redcheck. He should be ecstatic. Further he complains about D2 being wasted. We've had 15 or so pages of content still with 4 hours to lynch. And no disagreement on who to lynch really. Why is there more than 2 pages? When I've seen redchecks it ENDS the day. Like essentially literally there would be like 8 posts maybe. Most everyone knows that Boxerfred is super lurker as either alignments. It's not a leap at all that Koshi saw him as a partner and was like "hey, I might bus you d1 so I get confirmed". With that he can breadcrumb suspicion. he didn't leave my wagon until 30 minutes before lynch and AFTER Rayn left me. If Rayn stayed and I died, Koshi could say that "well Rayn is a great player and was on him too!" That's a viable excuse to be wrong on me. But only if Rayn stayed. Rayn left, and Koshi saw 2 already on Boxerfred so it was kind of a viable lynch. And then bam, he's confirmed. Plus, this anger about Eden. It's super clear that he was thinking I was town in the night. He thought GiygaS was more likely scum. GiygaS claims and Eden's second post after is "yeah I believe this". It was done in less than 10 minutes, and before anyone else and consistent with his read on me. How is that weird? Koshi thinks I'm lock scum even without the redcheck. So, why is he mad when town lynched red D1 and I'm overwhelmingly the wagon? He also trying to sell the fact I did a case on named town (the only thing he did was town case a confirmed) yet when he said that there were already 2 other cases finished after. I know none of you understand what I'm doing. But you will. Maybe not agree with it, but you will understand and it will be clear. I'm just not finished. | ||
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We killed mafia D1, and we have like 6 people who are essentially confirmed. (5 because I don't think Koshi should be considered anymore, but I feel strongly about darthfoley's innocence.) If I were mafia, I would be uncomfortable as fuck. Wouldn't you? | ||
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Even without the redcheck, I was very much on the lynch table. He can have both untoucheable towncred and his mlynch. There is no world where Boxerfred lives very long. With Rayn still on my wagon, Koshi has every excuse to explain any heat he gains away. If rayn bails, then most likely will have to answer. I will never believe this isn't within his scum range. I think town can keep him alive till m/lylo but if he's alive then you must lynch him. If he's town, then mafia will have to kill him at some point as he is a very real threat to solving the game. | ||
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On January 14 2016 04:42 mderg wrote: Your theory on koshi feels pretty similar to your case against rayn. I think it's pretty unlikely that koshi is scum but with some crazy narrative there's an off chance that he is scum. Yup. Do you think town is in a good or bad position right now? Do you think Koshi's frustration is justified? | ||
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I think town needs to kill redchecks. The only exception is if you 100% believe it's fake/wrong. I will always be a cloud of confusion for town while I live. I do not want mafia to use that. I want to win. I did those cases for a few reasons. It's like a will and testament people who think they are dying at night. Hopefully, it's completely transparent and there isn't any question as to what I thought albeit weird. It's also in a way my fighting without conflicting with my honest belief that redchecks should die. I'm trying to leave town in a better position than if I just quit. I also wanted some case building/writing practice. As it's obvious with how my GiygaS case and interactions went. I had to keep pushing it because I didn't think anyone understood my actual point. So, I need to learn to be more clear. I already answered why I cased slOosh mostly. But another reason is I was planning on having one for essentially everyone. It's kind of like those players who post their spreadsheets for the thread. Maybe make something that you can go back to like a filter but it filters out useless posts or something. I did not like Koshi repeatedly saying that we shouldn't confirm slOosh because of VCA. Later I was thinking that maybe a clever and desparate mafia might counter claim or something. It was also a different kind of experiment. I also wanted to wait for the posters that I think would provide more content so the case stays more relevant or valid. there is no reason to think that slOosh is going to do something in the next day that will change my read. But Scott, VA or darthfoley might. Noon I didn't think would do a lot anyway, it's just not the type of player he is known for. I just voted Nooniansoong. Mostly symbolic. I think I should be the lynch. Tomorrow have the wagon be Noon and Scott. Then figure out VA the next day. See what Koshi really does and if it didn't help town then he's mafia. to me locked town in order: GiygaS, slOosh Eden, GGtemplar mderg darth ciao | ||
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On January 14 2016 04:44 Tubesock wrote: Yup. Do you think town is in a good or bad position right now? Do you think Koshi's frustration is justified? I hope you look at his frustration post and see if those points jive with what is really going on. He scums me pretty hard. Why does he really care if there is an early red check? Oh because the standard answer "you claim redcheck LATE so it doesn't shut down the thread!" So, YOU decide if this thread was shut down. It sure doesn't look like it to me. He says I literally only towncased a confirmed. You think that's true? Would you be frustrated if a redcheck, and a highly likely scum did weird shit that made him look MORE scummy? What the fuck? Really? Get my point? | ||
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People should think about this post. | ||
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