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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Brilliant. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On January 13 2016 01:07 Koshi wrote: So you decide to make a towncase on an uncc named VT. Brilliant. Can't all be as smart and wise as you. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I am not sure anybody could be. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
If our conf's have a better plan - I'm willing to listen. I'm still three pages behind. Meeting time - bbl. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Goddam poker analogies forcing me to play to odds instead of following gut | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On January 13 2016 01:06 Tubesock wrote: uuuuhhhh yeah. But I also totally think you'd think he's lying or something and go back to your original slOosh is scum idea. Or maybe mafia might try some weird desparate counter claim that tries to fuck up town. I doubt anyone will do the work to really think about if slOosh is town. So at least they have something to look back on. Plus, what else am I going to do today? the thread is basically already dead. Would be nice if there was something to talk about. Probably a vote analysis from your perspective would be nice - Eden did some coloring in one of his posts (ctrl+f for "spoiler"). Maybe look at context of darthfoley's switches. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On January 12 2016 19:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote: If they're both hypothetically scum and darth sees tube is already getting lynched he could just want some towncred. Especially if Tube is the nilla mafia. He changed votes 30 minutes prior to E.O.D. I would relook at his filter to see how he was reading Tube throughout the game and if the vote at the time made sense. I think darthfoley in general had Tubesock as his default lynch most of D1. He did some meandering around depending on what other people in town were saying, but it seems super gutsy to just park it there multiple times if they were scum buddies. And (still hypothetically speaking), if going for a bus, I would be very surprised that scum would bus an active poster that has a good chance of arguing out of a lynch over an inactive poster, even if he had a powerrole. Lurker roleblocker with like 3 posts to his name or active goon who is churning out posts? I really can't see a scum-scum team with the two. I totally get VA's point of playing the percentages. But I think framer hitting a town Tubesock and him getting copchecked is more likely than darthfoley and Tubesock both being scum. I'm leaning darthfoley first here. ##Vote darthfoley | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 12 2016 05:58 VayneAuthority wrote: I will write my quick thoughts incase I am vigged, don't want to invest too much time obviously when its super possible ill just die. The most likely mafia I can deduct from voting analysis and a follow up of his filter is darthfoley You will see that Tubesock was most likely the mafia mislynch of choice, kinda sure he is town. When the 2nd vote drops onto boxerfred, tubesock is sitting at 3 votes. starting to get close. then darthfoley goes ahead and votes for tubesock to make it a comfortable 4-2. But what you can't account for as mafia is a last second large swing like that resulting in boxer's lynch. It is a very suspicious and well timed vote on his part. Follow that up with gems like this from his filter See part 2, boxerfred literally has almost no filter besides 1 post. He hasn't looked through any of the less active posters but says boxerfred is a shining example of being holistic? Soft defense that you wouldn't technically even realize you are doing as a mafia partner. Now look through his voting pattern, he flip flops on me and tubesock at the slightest change of wind to try to appear as if he is mulling his options but really he doesnt care that either of us is lynched, they are both mislynches for him. Thread support was the only thing that ever swayed his opinion. Finally, this is more of tells for me instead of mafia play but his first page is a lot of feigning ignorance with mechanics of the game to generate filter and even tells us about stuff he is doing irl which I largely associate with mafia attempting to lighten mood/make them appear more likable. cya at deadline Maybe. Defense of darthfoley: First thing is his first game and he uses a lot of reasoning and explains his thought process in a way that I wouldn't expect a first game player to even come close to faking. Yes, a lot of his arguments are bad (scumread on koshi for starting discussion), but I think bad arguments like that commonly come from noobs. Changing your read a lot day 1 strikes me as a very townie thing to do. Scum pick a suspect then go with it. His reads show he is thinking about things and changing his mind based on the arguments people are presenting. And he mentioned boxerfred only because he was asked about him. scumvayne: This is the level of try hard I would expect from scumvayne on d2: the minimum necessary to look townie. He does a simple vca which is NAI. and then he does a very surface reading of darthfoley's filter and misrepresents him to look scummy. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Am I making sense? | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 13 2016 03:49 slOosh wrote: Like, if we all agree that darthfoley is scum, then it seems like the right play to lynch him first. I think him flipping scum would be strong enough to exonerate Tubesock, despite the redcheck, given how D1 voting played out. Am I making sense? yeah except for the darthfoley being scum part | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
Nooniansoong is ...uh...hmmm. So, apparently I think I towned Noon because he was getting flack from rayn for reasons I didn't like. Which probably led to me scumming rayn. Tracking his posts and such, makes me think he's better lynch than Scott at the moment. So, preferred lynch order would be darth, noon, scott. reevaluate. Noon votes VA at 7:23a (day + 8 hrs or so to lynch). The very first Boxerfred vote occured at 01:08a (almost 13 hours to lynch). Then came mderg vote on Boxer at 2:09 to lynch. Then Noon says he would vote Boxer (1:41 prior to lynch). slOosh voted at 55 minutes till, then rayn bailed at 31 minutes till and Koshi at 29 minutes. The point of the above paragragh is that it is conceivable that Noon would have switched. I however think this information is NAI but you survivors of town get to decide on that. + Show Spoiler [towns koshi, giygas consecutively] + On January 09 2016 23:23 nooniansoong wrote: Koshi null leaning town. Why would he open the opposite of his last two town games if he were scum? Usually people try to emulate their town games as scum. Gigyas no idea I'd have to filter, On January 09 2016 23:38 nooniansoong wrote: I like gigyas as town. Town read started here. This read here is nuanced when scums reads are more cut and dry. + Show Spoiler [plynch & scums VA] + On January 10 2016 01:21 nooniansoong wrote: most games you do play like oatsmaster though. very little content, mostly one liners, hard to read. This is enough to placeholder my vote on vayne. "weird comments" - it's scummy to call something weird "nitpicking completely useless things" - it didn't seem any more useless than what other people were talking about at the time "telling others to do work" - misconstruing asking questions as telling others to do work. "struggling to create a filter" - this is the kind of generic wording that comes from scum so often. Also I do not understand how someone can draw that conclusion from sloosh's filter. Plus vayne doubles as a plynch anyway so there's that. + Show Spoiler [not really tr Rayne] + On January 10 2016 04:40 nooniansoong wrote: I like this thoughtful question from rayn. Actually I didn't know what to think of what koshi said in the moment I asked him about it. I thought to myself.. why would koshi open in the opposite way of his last two games? And I thought him answering my question might help me get a better idea of his motivation behind it. Koshi didn't give me a helpful answer, which in itself made me lean townie on him slightly because he didn't feel the need to satisfy me. + Show Spoiler [TR Tube] + On January 11 2016 06:08 nooniansoong wrote: I don't want to lynch tubesock. I can't understand most of his posts. His scum game is still fresh in my mind and his posts were a lot easier to follow. That's because his content this game is much closer to stream of thought. Having a number 4 lynch on d1 is really townie. It shows a lot of thought is going into who might be scum. + Show Spoiler [happy lynch Boxer] + On January 11 2016 06:19 nooniansoong wrote: id be happy to lynch boxerfred also. + Show Spoiler [Votes VA] + On January 10 2016 01:23 nooniansoong wrote: ##vote rayn On January 10 2016 01:23 nooniansoong wrote: ##unvote ##vote vayn On January 10 2016 02:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vote Count Koshi (3): slOosh, darthfoley, boxerfred VayneAuthority (2): Koshi, nooniansoong slOosh (1): GGTeMpLaR Raynpelikoneet (0): nooniansoong (0): Not voted (7): GigyaS, Eden1892, mderg, Tubesock, VayneAuthority, Kmatt, Raynpelikoneet Currently, Koshi is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread. He has 6 posts that have a read in them. He doesn't mention a LOT of people. So, we can't know where he really is at. I don't see anything that I think is super towny. His voting is safe enough and I don't think I see anything that incriminates really. But I also don't believe that he would vote in an incriminating way as either alignment. I guess, I towned him for what I said in the first paragraph and that I was relating to him too. He was and is not pro-town though. Boxer dies + Show Spoiler [tcred for boxer lynch] + This is an extremely easy way to gauge thread temperature. + Show Spoiler [wrong so not needed] + On January 11 2016 09:51 nooniansoong wrote: I voted. for vayne honestly i was pretty bummed that we lynched scum because now it's like damn i guess ill move right along im not needed here.. Excuse to not work and still further gauge reading. + Show Spoiler [suspicion on Scott entrance] + On January 11 2016 10:09 nooniansoong wrote: yeah that's kind of dirty if he's scum because now he has townie reads to play off of I'm conflicted though. I felt the same with Scott's entrance which I already voiced my opinion on. + Show Spoiler [not scumreading Tube] + On January 11 2016 10:18 nooniansoong wrote: im not scumreading you but it wasn't necessarily mafia's choice which of you to kill. mafia could have had reads they didn't want to be inconsistent on mafia could have not been there EoD + Show Spoiler [rayn suspicion] + On January 11 2016 22:27 nooniansoong wrote: rayn what i think is the reasons why you are towning and scumming people make no sense to me. Especially that townread on vayne. I would never expect that from you as town. Ill ask again what agenda do you expect scum vayne to push d1? A lot of indicators I prefer not to pay attention to like tone and filter size say you're town. So I would like someone familiar with your meta to say "rayn is never like this as scum!" or "rayn is capable of this as scum" Therefore I would like Koshi's opinion which he still hasn't given. And yes I am aware I lack content this game which will be remedied by the end of today. I totally understand not TR'ing rayn because of paranoia. I think it's also why he never spoke about Eden. + Show Spoiler [Mderg looking scummy] + On January 12 2016 03:30 nooniansoong wrote: Anyway during lunch i went through some filters. Mderg looking scummy. - pressure on darthfoley that goes no where - sheeped TS onto gigyas - jumped ship on gigyas when wagon looked like it was going to falter. He gave no reason except that he thought about it more. - left a scumlynch a the last second for me. Again without any reasoning, except my lack of content. But boxerfred had even less content then me so I don't buy this reason to switch off boxerfred. This is the first time Noon mentions mderg. If Noon is mafia, he knows he can't rely on just lynching a couple of the non"confirmed" towns. He has to bring one down or at least get others to think about him. Widen that mlynch pool. Plus, it looks more ballsy and that's he's thinking critically. + Show Spoiler [forgotten tr of darthfoley] + On January 12 2016 07:11 nooniansoong wrote: i townread darthfoley for somethign but i forget what Raynpelikoneet dies. + Show Spoiler [really weird post] + On January 12 2016 10:44 nooniansoong wrote: what the fuck is going on lol I really disliked this post. "what the fuck is going on"??? I thought it was a surprise mafia killed rayn (thought Koshi/eden for sure) but I don't think it's terribly surprising that there was a cop check. All relative I guess, but I don't think there was that much chaos to warrant a townie saying this. If mafia then sure it fits, I'd be surprised too. + Show Spoiler [postcame cred hail mary] + On January 12 2016 21:25 nooniansoong wrote: Scumteam Eden mderg for post game bragging rights though Conclusion time. For anyone who is actually bothering to read this, I think I'd lynch darth, noon, scott. Obviously reevaluating along the way. If Scott continues to be blatantly useless then he's a fine lynch too. But I think you guys should grant Rayn's dying wish and kill Noon (and me). Next up mderg probably unless I feel really trolly and do GGtemplar. Or I'll say who cares and become a spectator. I haven't decided. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On January 13 2016 03:35 slOosh wrote: Probably a vote analysis from your perspective would be nice - Eden did some coloring in one of his posts (ctrl+f for "spoiler"). Maybe look at context of darthfoley's switches. I think I can do some of this. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 09 2016 17:13 darthfoley wrote: For me, I am mainly am just confused as to why he's been reluctant to back off Sloosh after saying he wouldn't target active townspeople on day 1. Maybe he strictly means he won't vote for active townspeople but still target them in discussion, though his grilling of Sloosh followed by a pivot towards a poster with no history seems out of place and too random for my liking. He cites "terrible" reasons that he probably won't remember in the morning, which basically provides no information about anything at all. Why couldn't he include at least an outline of something relevant? like just read that.. scum can't fake a thought process like that. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 13 2016 03:53 Tubesock wrote: + Show Spoiler [tcred for boxer lynch] + This is an extremely easy way to gauge thread temperature. ya you got me i was judging thread temperature lol | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On January 13 2016 03:54 nooniansoong wrote: like just read that.. scum can't fake a thought process like that. The problem I have with that is I think he's just not reading the thread and reaching for something. It was pretty clear to me what Koshi meant and what he was doing jived. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 13 2016 04:00 Tubesock wrote: The problem I have with that is I think he's just not reading the thread and reaching for something. It was pretty clear to me what Koshi meant and what he was doing jived. how is he not reading the thread.. he talks about it in depth | ||
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