EPTAlso earth to Kmatt??
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
Also earth to Kmatt?? | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
I still have a distinctly separate, stronger, desire to kill you, in no small part for the behavior you ascribed to yourself. Perhaps you're missing my point. Your argument about GiygaS is reasonable. To this outside observer who already believes he's town and you're scum, it's not compelling enough. Why should I switch my vote? | ||
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slOosh
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On January 10 2016 16:37 Eden1892 wrote: It's interesting, a pretty reasonable read. But I would still rather kill Tubesock, as that's the only thing he's posted (as of me typing this) that's left me willing to consider not killing him, and as I already thought GiygaS was pretty solidly town. What do you think? I think it is a decently a compelling point against GiygaS and am interested in his response. At this point I would place mderg, vayne and kmatt as lynch preferences. I don't see how people are reading mderg town, and I've yet the time to properly read vayne's meta b/c I don't really see any content from him. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On January 10 2016 16:42 Eden1892 wrote: I understand the point you're making. I still have a distinctly separate, stronger, desire to kill you, in no small part for the behavior you ascribed to yourself. Perhaps you're missing my point. Your argument about GiygaS is reasonable. To this outside observer who already believes he's town and you're scum, it's not compelling enough. Why should I switch my vote? Then if you are unwilling to think about it more then you shouldn't. Why do you think he's town? Tell me exactly how a town would ever use weird town reads to scum someone when they have the same reads and there are plenty of other reasons to scum that person? How is that possible? You think I'm going to bus my teammate so I can live instead of him? | ||
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GiygaS
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
Town reads Rayne, Eden, SloOsh, Noonsiansoong then the rest as finished, you would think I'm town? | ||
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darthfoley
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On January 10 2016 16:55 Tubesock wrote: So, basically, you are saying that if I simply said: Town reads Rayne, Eden, SloOsh, Noonsiansoong then the rest as finished, you would think I'm town? That would have helped, when your filter is that short its hard to say much else when there's basically nothing else in your filter. There's nothing of substance in that except for that post, and the one just now where you scum read me because I scum read you for the wrong reasons. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
I thought he was town because I thought his entrance was solid. Just going to quote myself on it: I like that this player, right from the start, was thinking about how to gain additional info about the setup. I think the answer to this question is "no" -- we don't need the information this early, and saving it until later may allow for a much bigger blowout if the hypothetical Named VT ends up under fire or the mafia get involved in some claims fiasco -- but I think looking toward this immediately at the game start is correct, as we were given additional relevant information to start the game (the four possible setups), and GiygaS immediately began thinking about how to maximize the use of this information. I looked at the rest of the filter for this player, and GiygaS is talking to what seems like half of the thread (and almost all of the active players), throwing early reads out and being willing to defend them on concrete (at least for 8 hours into day 1) grounds. That said, I'd certainly acknowledge that GiygaS had a significant drop-off in thread interaction since then, which weakens the read to some extent. In tandem with your argument (which I think is reasonable), it's enough to give me pause. I'm going to decline answering the rest of your questions for now, because I can think of a reason why town!GiygaS would do that, but I'm not going to fill that answer in for him. He'll have to explain himself without me giving him a freeroll. GiygaS: What do you mean when you say that Tubesock's townreads were weird? Why do you think they're weird when your views seem to be very similarly aligned to his? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On January 10 2016 17:00 GiygaS wrote: That would have helped, when your filter is that short its hard to say much else when there's basically nothing else in your filter. There's nothing of substance in that except for that post, and the one just now where you scum read me because I scum read you for the wrong reasons. Er, can you answer his question? "That would have helped" isn't an answer, and the rest of this is noise for the purpose of answering him. | ||
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darthfoley
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On January 10 2016 17:02 Eden1892 wrote: Er, can you answer his question? "That would have helped" isn't an answer, and the rest of this is noise for the purpose of answering him. At that moment, I would not think he was town but he would not be my top lynch choice. Now though, he still would be. | ||
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Eden1892
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On January 10 2016 17:07 Eden1892 wrote: The difference between, effectively, "null" and "top lynch choice" comes down to him calling a few town reads easy? And the other contents in that post. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
So a short filter and him calling some of his town reads easy is the difference between "null" and "top lynch"? | ||
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GiygaS
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