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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 03 2016 23:25 GMT
#3661
like I'm sort of okay if you think I'm null and you don't talk about me, but I was clearly bottom or very close to it in both cases.

I actually thought the reasonable answer to my original question would simply be that you were sheeping other people. But meh.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 03 2016 23:27 GMT
#3662
On December 28 2015 21:56 Palmar wrote:
but ok.

time is up kush.

I genuinely wonder if Kush understood the question he asked. Like, koshi clearly shows that he understands what happened, but it boils down to this:

Kush questioning Exo's read on me only makes sense if Kush actually understand why Exo's accusations are dumb. If he doesn't know why Exo is being a moron, then Kush has no business asking the question he just asked.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 03 2016 23:27 GMT
#3663
I need to sleep. gn
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2016 23:29 GMT
#3664
That wasn't the point trfel of bringing hf up.

I'll admit that not caring about a lynch is anti town but it's not always scum meh.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 23:34 GMT
#3665
On January 04 2016 07:39 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 10:57 nooniansoong wrote:
Hi everybody. I'm a kush smurf.
This game I am going to try hard to work on read accuracy.

I just did a quick read through. Exo gave me mafia feels in his few posts, but that doesn't mean much.

I liked hf's first post. Then ness said he needed to write a lot in defense. Ness, I urge you to write as little as possible while still honestly addressing hf's concerns.

Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.
Nooniansoong, I'm not sure how these posts fit with your process-of-elimination mindset described here. How can you get mafia feels from ExO_'s first few posts? And why do you feel that Tictock is more likely town than mafia, while you say that when you can't find a reason to townread people, you assume that they are mafia?
l
Am I misunderstanding something?


1 I gave no credence to those mafiafeels. Did you not read the part where i said "THAT DOESN"T MEAN MUCH"

2 I had so many null reads at that point that a nullread did not equal scumread like it does at this point in the game. I thought people's reasons for scumreading him were not valid. Then I townread him a little based on, im ashamed to say, tone and some stuff he said in the face of being lynched.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 23:52 GMT
#3666
And comparing my scumhunting to the last game I played will probably lead you astray. I townread two of the scum so I tried to change how I approached the game a little bit. Every game I try to improve.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 04 2016 03:02 GMT
#3667
Well I was considering jumping off nm and going elsewhere but meh he still not posting much.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 04 2016 03:33 GMT
#3668
Damdred, I'm going to use a sicklucker argument, but here goes.

It's really hard to tell about NocturneMage for a variety of reasons. He's still busy trying to read through the game, and it's a fairly large game. It's also right after a major holiday, and he's playing in another game at the same time.

If you remember from the last game that NocturneMage replaced into, Dark Tournament I think? but, he wasn't very active for ~24 hours and then started doing more stuff while catching up with the thread.

Basically, I don't feel confident with lynching him now at all, it feels like basically an activity policy lynch, and I feel that he will be far easier to read next day. And I feel that there are several lynches with a very good chance of hitting mafia.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 04 2016 03:36 GMT
#3669
and do you expect that to change over time truffle?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 04 2016 03:37 GMT
#3670
honestly i read the thread, but i am on vicodin....so i pretty much don't understand it well and have nothing to say
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 04 2016 03:51 GMT
#3671
Yes, I expect NocturneMage to be much easier to read over time.

From nooniansoong's last game, as town:
On December 15 2015 21:48 kushm4sta wrote:
I see no reason not to vote gb. Dunno when flip is but I will try to do some stuff at lunch

On December 15 2015 21:48 kushm4sta wrote:
I see no reason not to vote gb. Dunno when flip is but I will try to do some stuff at lunch
(among other posts scumreading GlowingBear)
On December 16 2015 07:33 kushm4sta wrote:
sorry guys i had a lunch meeting.

I won't be able to catch up on reading tonight. Pretty dumb to lynch me due to a lurker meta though. Whether I am a lurker or not has nothign to do with alignment and everything to do with how busy I am.

Dark tournament I was also lynched d1 for low activity and I was also town. So keep that in mind.
Still very different from the current game. Specifically in that he had scumreads and the reason he wasn't around for the Day 1 lynch was due to availability instead of desire.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 04 2016 04:08 GMT
#3672
so you have no read on him, but expect to get one when his only really known mafia meta is to be passive and inactive?????? do you know he is town and gonna post or are you in a qt or something?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 04 2016 04:52 GMT
#3673
On January 04 2016 13:08 ritoky wrote:
so you have no read on him, but expect to get one when his only really known mafia meta is to be passive and inactive?????? do you know he is town and gonna post or are you in a qt or something?
What?

This really isn't a complicated idea. Like, not at all.

More time means it's easier to read someone, regardless of what they are doing. However, in NocturneMage's case, more time is especially indicative because he's just replacing into the game.

Like, seriously, I shouldn't have to explain this. Do you want an elementary school explanation?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 04 2016 04:56 GMT
#3674
I spent most of today with my family. Will be kinda on and off with my activity as I prepare to go back home in 2 days. But I'll be here. I kinda took a step back from the game b/c I was feeling just incredibly disheartened. I need some help getting back into the swing of it.

I haven't read, but we need to lynch palmar today. Artanis/Rayn both thought Palmar was scummy. And with just about every other person I thought was scum dead it's my best lead.

Specifically at Ritoky, what do you think of lynching Palmar today?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 04 2016 05:59 GMT
#3675
On January 04 2016 13:52 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 13:08 ritoky wrote:
so you have no read on him, but expect to get one when his only really known mafia meta is to be passive and inactive?????? do you know he is town and gonna post or are you in a qt or something?
What?

This really isn't a complicated idea. Like, not at all.

More time means it's easier to read someone, regardless of what they are doing. However, in NocturneMage's case, more time is especially indicative because he's just replacing into the game.

Like, seriously, I shouldn't have to explain this. Do you want an elementary school explanation?
Sorry, this post was not called for.

There are several potential reasons why NocturneMage's play could be like this as town, as I stated a few posts ago. If NocturneMage's play continues to be the same as time passes, then these explanations are no longer valid, and he is likely mafia. If his play changes significantly, then he could very well be town.

I need to pack my stuff, then I'll try to look at mafia stuff, but I need to wake up at like 4 tomorrow. So I'm hoping to not stay up that late.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 04 2016 06:00 GMT
#3676
On January 04 2016 13:52 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 13:08 ritoky wrote:
so you have no read on him, but expect to get one when his only really known mafia meta is to be passive and inactive?????? do you know he is town and gonna post or are you in a qt or something?
What?

This really isn't a complicated idea. Like, not at all.

More time means it's easier to read someone, regardless of what they are doing. However, in NocturneMage's case, more time is especially indicative because he's just replacing into the game.

Like, seriously, I shouldn't have to explain this. Do you want an elementary school explanation?


my idea is simple too.

he has had multiple days. he has shown no activity and no tenacity. his town games are all active and tenacious. his mafia game is non-inquisitive and inactive. are we together still?

you think over time you will get a read on him. which means that for some reason you think he is going to suddenly become more active and push for things. why would you think that? all indications are toward the contrary. plus if we miss mafia we are in penta-lylo without saves, so you're also saying "this is someone i would bring to lylo even though i have no read on them and am leaving in the wait and see category". doesn't make sense to me in the slightest.

basically you think you'll get a read on him for suddenly doing the opposite of what he has been doing when what he has been doing is quite literally his mafia meta. so i am sitting here wondering why in the hell you are expecting him to change behavior randomly? my drug and pain ridden brain can only arrive at spew or qt; but what the fuck do i know i am high as shit on painkillers.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 04 2016 06:03 GMT
#3677
On January 04 2016 13:56 ExO_ wrote:
I spent most of today with my family. Will be kinda on and off with my activity as I prepare to go back home in 2 days. But I'll be here. I kinda took a step back from the game b/c I was feeling just incredibly disheartened. I need some help getting back into the swing of it.

I haven't read, but we need to lynch palmar today. Artanis/Rayn both thought Palmar was scummy. And with just about every other person I thought was scum dead it's my best lead.

Specifically at Ritoky, what do you think of lynching Palmar today?


i'll lynch palmar, idgaFUCK. the 2 non-confirmed town voting on him are kinda sketch tho. idk i prefer slam cuz i just think he is ezpzmafiasqueezy.

dunno how anyone is voting on 1gu, literal 0 people have rebutted how i basically confirmed him and damdred as town, which was pretty baller. 8/10 woulda been 10/10 if shot hit mafia too.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 04 2016 06:08 GMT
#3678
On January 04 2016 14:59 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 13:52 Trfel wrote:
On January 04 2016 13:08 ritoky wrote:
so you have no read on him, but expect to get one when his only really known mafia meta is to be passive and inactive?????? do you know he is town and gonna post or are you in a qt or something?
What?

This really isn't a complicated idea. Like, not at all.

More time means it's easier to read someone, regardless of what they are doing. However, in NocturneMage's case, more time is especially indicative because he's just replacing into the game.

Like, seriously, I shouldn't have to explain this. Do you want an elementary school explanation?
Sorry, this post was not called for.

There are several potential reasons why NocturneMage's play could be like this as town, as I stated a few posts ago. If NocturneMage's play continues to be the same as time passes, then these explanations are no longer valid, and he is likely mafia. If his play changes significantly, then he could very well be town.

I need to pack my stuff, then I'll try to look at mafia stuff, but I need to wake up at like 4 tomorrow. So I'm hoping to not stay up that late.


i don't understand why you believe waiting and seeing will yield different results; it begs the question why do you believe that? just out of the kindness of your heart? or??????
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 04 2016 06:14 GMT
#3679
basically we should never lynch me, damdred, onegu, coag, and exo today

we should probably not lynch SL or kush mostly cuz they really give fucks

damdred has a boner for shining so i will listen to said boner

which leaves: slam, gb, trfel, NM, OO, palmar, obi

that's the group that should be voted on today pretty much always. i think i would vote on obi last out of that group? i don't fucking know tbh; can we just lynch slam so i can regret my shot on moosy when he flips mafia?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 04 2016 06:15 GMT
#3680
like seriously, not a soul town reads slam and yet it is fucking impossible to get people to vote on this motherfucker; how much more proof of mafia do you need?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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