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and while answering those keep in mind you basically need to shit a town rainbow so hard down my throat that it pours from every orifice of my body to get me to even consider going against an uncc'd red and a cc.
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On December 30 2015 19:38 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2015 19:26 Tictock wrote:On December 30 2015 18:32 ritoky wrote:On December 30 2015 18:21 ExO_ wrote:On December 30 2015 18:16 ritoky wrote:On December 30 2015 18:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 30 2015 18:00 ritoky wrote:
exo are you caught up fully with the thread? For the most part. If I understand correctly: Mafia has 2 kills, and then a 2 shot vig. Which explains the 3 deaths. Onegu is claiming a red check on TT, with no counter claim so far. I'm inclined to believe him b/c of the post TT made with the popcorn. I think TT is scum. Artanis and Rayn were both convinced Palmar was scum. And I tend to agree. I'm in favor of lynching Palmar today for this reason: This means that if somebody CC's Onegu's claim we're not having last minute vote shenanigans again. If nothing changes in regards to TT then I think one of our gunsmith's shoot him. I think I need to go really closely read how the vote switching happened. Who switched. Why they said they switched. I think some clues are there. And I think Artanis/rayn's filter should be read closely as well. Why do you prefer a lynch on a scum read (to which there is a level of uncertainty) versus a player who is red checked by an uncc'd cop and CC'd for the role he claimed (which seems far more definitive)? What's the difference between lynching TT and shooting palmar and why is the opposite preferable? Because rayn/Artanis both felt strongly about Palmar. I think Palmar is regarded well enough to have more influence on the game, and possibly talk his way out of this. TT isn't making it to the end of this game regardless, Palmar might find a way to talk his way out of it. I think Palmar is scum, and I don't want to give him a chance to slip by. If possible I'd like to avoid voting Shenanigans at the end of the day today, and one way I could see that happening is somebody CCing onegu and then we end up lynching the wrong person again. I can't see a world in which somebody would CC onegu, and claim they got a green check on Palmar, it would look to obviously wrong. So if we lynch Palmar, shoot TT we get the most amount of scum, with the least amount of risk. I am having trouble grasping this. It's been nearly half a day and almost every player has been to the thread and posted at least once; so the # of people who a CC to onegu could come from is extremely limited. Further if someone CC's onegu in the final hours, it is just awful play....like really bad; but beyond that it doesn't explain TT getting CC'd on top of the red check by damdred. On top of that TT not claiming GS under impending lynch yesterday makes no sense at all. He will claim under red check but not under imminent death? What? It would take one helluva last minute CC to cause shenanies. Plus as of now I am shooting palmar which was what rayn and i had been saying all night before checks and cc's happened. I didn't want to claim. + Show Spoiler [Stuff you wont believe till later] +
My dumbass decided to post "Lynch Onegu when I flip miller" Rather than just "...when I flip"
At least I'm glad I gave the gun to you kus I'm certain your town based off stuff today. I almost gave it to Damdred.
My EoD posts did have a lot of "You all are gunna be mad at me when I die" stuff.
My perspective right now is that Rayn/Art were onto something with Vivax/Palmar. At least one of them is scum imo and prob an important role.
Only reason it makes sense to have 2 people fake claims to get me lynched today.
Onegu is prob goon and doesn't have much time so is making the 1v1 trade for me.
Damdred Idk about. I'm fairly sure Onegu wouldn't fakeclaim on me outta the blue like this as town. There is some faint tinfoil ideas about Damdred faking a claim as town to get me lynched, it makes sense for him to be convinced I'm mafia here. Like it's a really stupid play for scum!Damdred to fake claim GS to get me lynched when there is already a red check on me.
I'd still put money on SL being scum this game as well, possibly still Ness and Kush. Ness I'm honestly thinking might have legit stormed off from the game though... though I think that's more likely to happen is he's scum here feeling caught rather than a town who just felt under pressure. Idk be interesting to gauge his return.
I need you to explain to me some things: 1) Why claim today when red checked but not yesterday when 7 minutes from lynch? 2) Why is onegu mafia? (other than I am GS and he claimed red) 3) Elaborate on your damdred tinfoil theories; he claimed your role, why isn't he mafia? 4) Why should I believe you when there's an uncc'd cop with a red check?
This is why claims are weird.
You shouldn't, but I know you should...
Also why I'm inclined to listen to Koshi and stop posting
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well then i guess i am not gonna get answers and should just go to bed before the baby wakes up and wrecks my life.
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On December 30 2015 19:38 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2015 19:26 Tictock wrote:On December 30 2015 18:32 ritoky wrote:On December 30 2015 18:21 ExO_ wrote:On December 30 2015 18:16 ritoky wrote:On December 30 2015 18:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 30 2015 18:00 ritoky wrote:
exo are you caught up fully with the thread? For the most part. If I understand correctly: Mafia has 2 kills, and then a 2 shot vig. Which explains the 3 deaths. Onegu is claiming a red check on TT, with no counter claim so far. I'm inclined to believe him b/c of the post TT made with the popcorn. I think TT is scum. Artanis and Rayn were both convinced Palmar was scum. And I tend to agree. I'm in favor of lynching Palmar today for this reason: This means that if somebody CC's Onegu's claim we're not having last minute vote shenanigans again. If nothing changes in regards to TT then I think one of our gunsmith's shoot him. I think I need to go really closely read how the vote switching happened. Who switched. Why they said they switched. I think some clues are there. And I think Artanis/rayn's filter should be read closely as well. Why do you prefer a lynch on a scum read (to which there is a level of uncertainty) versus a player who is red checked by an uncc'd cop and CC'd for the role he claimed (which seems far more definitive)? What's the difference between lynching TT and shooting palmar and why is the opposite preferable? Because rayn/Artanis both felt strongly about Palmar. I think Palmar is regarded well enough to have more influence on the game, and possibly talk his way out of this. TT isn't making it to the end of this game regardless, Palmar might find a way to talk his way out of it. I think Palmar is scum, and I don't want to give him a chance to slip by. If possible I'd like to avoid voting Shenanigans at the end of the day today, and one way I could see that happening is somebody CCing onegu and then we end up lynching the wrong person again. I can't see a world in which somebody would CC onegu, and claim they got a green check on Palmar, it would look to obviously wrong. So if we lynch Palmar, shoot TT we get the most amount of scum, with the least amount of risk. I am having trouble grasping this. It's been nearly half a day and almost every player has been to the thread and posted at least once; so the # of people who a CC to onegu could come from is extremely limited. Further if someone CC's onegu in the final hours, it is just awful play....like really bad; but beyond that it doesn't explain TT getting CC'd on top of the red check by damdred. On top of that TT not claiming GS under impending lynch yesterday makes no sense at all. He will claim under red check but not under imminent death? What? It would take one helluva last minute CC to cause shenanies. Plus as of now I am shooting palmar which was what rayn and i had been saying all night before checks and cc's happened. I didn't want to claim. + Show Spoiler [Stuff you wont believe till later] +
My dumbass decided to post "Lynch Onegu when I flip miller" Rather than just "...when I flip"
At least I'm glad I gave the gun to you kus I'm certain your town based off stuff today. I almost gave it to Damdred.
My EoD posts did have a lot of "You all are gunna be mad at me when I die" stuff.
My perspective right now is that Rayn/Art were onto something with Vivax/Palmar. At least one of them is scum imo and prob an important role.
Only reason it makes sense to have 2 people fake claims to get me lynched today.
Onegu is prob goon and doesn't have much time so is making the 1v1 trade for me.
Damdred Idk about. I'm fairly sure Onegu wouldn't fakeclaim on me outta the blue like this as town. There is some faint tinfoil ideas about Damdred faking a claim as town to get me lynched, it makes sense for him to be convinced I'm mafia here. Like it's a really stupid play for scum!Damdred to fake claim GS to get me lynched when there is already a red check on me.
I'd still put money on SL being scum this game as well, possibly still Ness and Kush. Ness I'm honestly thinking might have legit stormed off from the game though... though I think that's more likely to happen is he's scum here feeling caught rather than a town who just felt under pressure. Idk be interesting to gauge his return.
I need you to explain to me some things: 1) Why claim today when red checked but not yesterday when 7 minutes from lynch? + Show Spoiler +I claim before lynch, I get RB'd and never get to pass out a shot. Also after Vivax had done his stuff I didn't think claiming would help my position much.
Today I still didn't want to claim, but there is no way Onegu has a red check on me, and I don't think he'd fake a red check as town. The rest was shoddy posting while at work and digging my own hole into feeling I had to claim. 2) Why is onegu mafia? (other than I am GS and he claimed red) + Show Spoiler +Onegu is not the easiest guy to read, but when he is town he usually posts semi-nonsense and likes to aggrivate Koshi. My usual way of reading Onegu is how much he's trying to guide things, as town he's a non-factor and does his own shit. Here I think there is a marked difference in his posting. He votes Koshi right off but instead goes off a lot about Rsoul and Coag. He makes a semi push on SL and This post will be interesting if/when he flips mafia because he seems to have a bit of an agenda going on. I also don't believe for a moment that town!Onegu would fake a red check to get someone he has no read on to get them lynched. If he were super tunneled on me maybe, but he mentioned me till today 3) Elaborate on your damdred tinfoil theories; he claimed your role, why isn't he mafia? + Show Spoiler +I'm not sure I can.
It's more me having a hard time believing scum!Damdred would put himself on the line like that, unless scum REALLY want me dead. 4) Why should I believe you when there's an uncc'd cop with a red check?
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Sorry Koshi
I'll fuck off now till EoD.
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Also how did are jailkeeper not get a safe last night? Three most obvious saves got murdered. you suck
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Also why is TT still trying does not make anysense. maybe hes just there vig trying to get another day
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I got the flu and feel like shit. I'm basically checking out until after the break.
Sorry guys
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yeah sorry i didn't save rsoul last night my bad, sl. sleeping etc.
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dt stands for detective aka cop
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ok i forgot to acualy read the thread. tt is obviously mafia or the worst town spewer of all time
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On December 30 2015 18:09 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2015 13:33 ObviousOne wrote:
and finally regarding moosy and his also-suidical level of play i say we have someone with a gun shoot him or we just pretend he doesn't exist.
it's dawning on my how many people are giving so few fucks in a non-banlist game, the last time i was in this scenario was a caller game where everyone had guns. Can you post some reads you feel strongly about? Even if they are TRs. I would like something that isn't maybe this, maybe that. Why would you prefer an afk be shot instead of someone who you scum read? And why moosy over BF/slam/ness anything in particular distinguish 1 of the unengaged over the other?
slam is prob town
koshi is prob town
gb feels different from how he was in haunted mansion mini (where he was town) but not necessarily in a scum way, and i like his war with HF which makes me think town
ness prob town
moosy SHOULD be considered mafia for his behavior which is why he should be shot. we don't waste a lynch where we get no real information and the game gets more solvable
no idea how to read hf, too much post not gonna bother unless its absolutely necessary
ows filter feels like it's full of air, so much oneliner stuff, striking me as someone who is providing commentary rather than content. need to reread after a few more flips.
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I disagree with all those reads.
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I'm taking tt being red pretty hard. Second game in a row i too easily towned him.
Bf...I'm conflicted. His logic is so weird. Too weird to be scum maybe?
Here's some self meta for you guys that suspect me. If I were scum there's no way I would have read this whole game.
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I kinda feel like its too early to make lists but i like these people as town
Coag
gb
dandred
ritoky
ness
vivax
obi
koshi
onegu
Theres probably gonna be one mafia in there tops I think unless fake claims
and im sure this wont be a popular opinion but its where im at
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On December 30 2015 21:16 nooniansoong wrote:
I'm taking tt being red pretty hard. Second game in a row i too easily towned him.
Bf...I'm conflicted. His logic is so weird. Too weird to be scum maybe?
Here's some self meta for you guys that suspect me. If I were scum there's no way I would have read this whole game.
im sort of buying what ur selling
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Gosh you dumbfucks how am I scum. Hf is it. Ez pz lemon squeezy.
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Ok anyway if TT is rber I think we have an exo problem despite all the dumb tells.
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EPT
