Newbie Student Mafia XVIII - Page 19

nooniansoong

1538 Posts

December 30 2015 00:10 GMT

#361

On December 30 2015 09:07 Shapelog wrote:
But why does it matter Kush if GB comes in with something you missed?

hell why are u covering for him?

because if he comes up with an interesting new idea that will help me to townread him.

Kmatt

United States1019 Posts

December 30 2015 00:10 GMT

#362

On December 30 2015 08:29 nooniansoong wrote:
he's ridiculously noncommittal

Since you seem to be more experienced, what would an appropriate amount of "commitment" be here? I know a few people have tossed out votes but most are either joking or not really grounded. I've been reading everyone's posts but without any context (like knowing that X was mafia when we thought they were town at the post time) I don't see much information to commit to.

Granted it's day one, so it seems like winging it on the first lynch is the way to go barring any outstanding evidence.

Shapelog

United States5184 Posts

December 30 2015 00:13 GMT

#363

On December 30 2015 09:10 nooniansoong wrote:

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because if he comes up with an interesting new idea that will help me to townread him.

And his case won't lol? So u want him come up with a new reason why kmatt is scum?

Kush you are making 0 sense to me. Can you explain why u think the new idea with give GB a town read?

nooniansoong

1538 Posts

December 30 2015 00:15 GMT

#364

On December 30 2015 09:13 Shapelog wrote:

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And his case won't lol? So u want him come up with a new reason why kmatt is scum?

Kush you are making 0 sense to me. Can you explain why u think the new idea with give GB a town read?

if gb comes up with a new idea that would help me townread GB, not kmatt. it woudl help me scumread kmat..

Shapelog

United States5184 Posts

December 30 2015 00:18 GMT

#365

On December 30 2015 09:15 nooniansoong wrote:

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if gb comes up with a new idea that would help me townread GB, not kmatt. it woudl help me scumread kmat..

Yet you don't even know what his case is even built around and could be of different reasons already.....

Kmatt

United States1019 Posts

December 30 2015 00:19 GMT

#366

Reading over Giygas through his filter is making me like him less and less. Only post with any content was:

On December 29 2015 10:41 GiygaS wrote:
The joke was forced in that I wanted to post to say "I'm here" basically, but didn't really have much to say.

As for what I think about Irish, slight town lean. Only real suspicion is on GB atm for his very matter of fact town read (I agree with it to some extent but he was very confident in it so early which I thought was weird) and that weird first post.

Which doesn't really tell us anything. He kind of agrees with an unfounded town read but is still skeptical of it and doesn't have any conclusion other than that GB might be scum, but no logic train or evidence of any kind.

I wouldn't mind that so much if it weren't 21 hours ago. The vote comes up tomorrow and he's completely off the radar.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

December 30 2015 00:22 GMT

#367

I think Kmatt's filter has been wishy washy, that's why I voted him. I could quoting and explaining my rwas but I'm actually too lazy right now to put effort

I'm also playing another game which from times to times keeps me from giving my full attention to this one

Kmatt

United States1019 Posts

December 30 2015 00:25 GMT

#368

On December 30 2015 09:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Kmatt's filter has been wishy washy, that's why I voted him. I could quoting and explaining my rwas but I'm actually too lazy right now to put effort

I'm also playing another game which from times to times keeps me from giving my full attention to this one

Well you're right that I haven't gone hard on anyone yet. While I still believe there's not enough evidence to properly decide now, reading through the filters will probably give me enough to make my choice come tomorrow.

For now I'm probably gonna vote GB or Giygas.

Shapelog

United States5184 Posts

December 30 2015 00:32 GMT

#369

So basically a non commitment issue. Yeah that's true.
At least ik what ur prob. is now.

Can u still explain y if i had a read on him matter?

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

December 30 2015 00:36 GMT

#370

On December 30 2015 09:32 Shapelog wrote:

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So basically a non commitment issue. Yeah that's true.
At least ik what ur prob. is now.

Can u still explain y if i had a read on him matter?

I usually delay explanation and post just votes and questions just to have people talking. If I answered you right at that moment I would destroy this premise. So I was just trying to have people talking about it for a longer time.

Shapelog

United States5184 Posts

December 30 2015 00:40 GMT

#371

On December 29 2015 10:11 Kmatt wrote:

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I didn't really mean anything by saying that he was "probably town", just purely the 3/11 (27%) vs 8/11 (73%) chance factor. I actually didn't think about the buddying factor though, since none of the people he was "buddying" came off as suspicious to me. I wouldn't go as far as to say that GB is showing mafia behavior, just that he stood out to me.

If I had to guess right now, his posts would make more sense for a mafia to do. However, that seems like it would be an obvious (mafia) rookie mistake (considering a scrub "caught" him on it), which I wouldn't expect of him. I'm still neutral on it for now.

Kind of the same with Irish. He's certainly putting more ideas out there than a lot of other posters, but nothing that would really swing me either way.

So u have list the chances of him being town, then null him, then put him up for vote?

What has changed? I mean all that has happen is that he scum read u. did you reread and a earlier post seems scummy now or what?

I can understand ur GiygaS Khan vote thou.

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

December 30 2015 00:40 GMT

#372

Vote Count - Day 1

scott31337 (2): Irishbound, NocturneMage
Onegu (1): nooniansoong

Not Voting (9): Kmatt, Shapelog, TheCow, GiygaS, Fidei86, mderg, GlowingBear, Onegu, scott31337

At this time, scott31337 is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on Wednesday, Dec 30 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

Shapelog

United States5184 Posts

December 30 2015 00:42 GMT

#373

On December 30 2015 09:36 GlowingBear wrote:

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Oh wow that is actually really smart.....Wow.....ok well u keep doing that b/c i like meh content ( Even if i am the most of it )

Kmatt

United States1019 Posts

December 30 2015 00:43 GMT

#374

On December 30 2015 09:40 Shapelog wrote:

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I don't think much has changed. To be honest, I did have a scumlean on GB, but I don't want to assert that since I wasn't confident enough in my own "evidence". Looking back over it I think I'm comfortable dropping my scumlean on GB. With that said:

##vote GiygaS

Kmatt

United States1019 Posts

December 30 2015 00:49 GMT

#375

On December 30 2015 09:36 GlowingBear wrote:

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While that seems like an effective tactic, I really can't like using it as town since that fits "make posts that stir up trouble without actually contributing to the thread" to a T. Not five minutes after I toss my scumread...

If you really do have an argument against me, let's get it out into the open. I don't think there's anything to lose by hiding information from all three of us in here right now.

mderg

Germany1740 Posts

December 30 2015 00:55 GMT

#376

Does anyone else feel that kush and GB are doing a pretty good job of avoiding each other?

Shapelog

United States5184 Posts

December 30 2015 01:00 GMT

#377

On December 30 2015 01:40 Shapelog wrote:

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On December 30 2015 01:35 Kmatt wrote:

On December 30 2015 01:30 mderg wrote:

On December 30 2015 01:22 Shapelog wrote:

On December 30 2015 01:10 mderg wrote:

On December 30 2015 00:27 Shapelog wrote:

On December 29 2015 16:58 Irishbound wrote:
@Shape - I've explained my issue with Giygas post as much as I can really. What content specifically are you waiting for and what's stopping you from getting reads from what's been posted thus far?

I Generally like having more then 2 pages (which half of which is either me or opening jokes) to base reads off of. I usually start subtracting the trolololo and add actual useful crap later into the day and into the later days.
100% tryhard mode this game. I promise.

@Fidel ~~Castro~~ (I must tryhard)
I do not know about GB (only play with him in nutcracker for a bit tbh) or NM.

About Onegu, His VT claim is dumb, but from what i heard from other players, this is the norm for him? Idk, I can tell more about him once he starts posting atcual content (if he does.) Last game i played (which was my first) he was more ativce days 1 and 2, but fell off during the later days. This might be because Koshi died thou.

But i really shouldn't jump to conclusions yet based off another game. Especially as i was compared as a rsoul. Smurf (still trying to figure that out)

Also I am not that experience IMO. I played 20 mafia games back in college during freshman year (so like 4-5 years ago) And nutcracker was my 1st forum mafia game ^.^

Personally, this morning I am giving a town read towards Irish and maybe NM. Irish for his general posting and podding questions.

Mderg is another i could place as town. At first i felt his intro post felt a bit scummy and a bit after wards espially with this post:

On December 29 2015 18:32 mderg wrote:
Meh, reading this thread is difficult when you don't know most of those names.

People are quick to jump on GB, I like that because his opening was fishy but I also don't like it because it feels too easy. I'll have to see how that continues.

Don't like GiygaS so far... Has made like 7 posts but I didn't see anything of substance. The fist reads also don't really seem that strong.

I have a slight townread on NocturneMage, he's being out there and being open about his thoughts. He's also asking lots of questions which makes me think he's trying to solve the game. He is a dirty league player, though...

The Bold feels a bit like hes repeating a lot of what people are saying, which indicatives to me mafia trying to look present.

However, hes recent posts on me gives me a bit of a more town feel. I do admit, to me, it is a bit early for filtering, but the fact he is thinking and perhaps doing it makes me want to say he is leaning more to town. I just want to bring up the above fact (repeating).

Koshi died?

I'm pretty sure I've played with Onegu in the past but I don't remember him doing stupid stuff like that. That's why I have no idea what to make of his posts so far.

I can see how the part about GiygaS can be seen as repeating what others have said but I definitely can't see it with my stance on GlowingBear. Can you elaborate more on that?

Yeah Koshi and Kush both died on the same night because mafia unboxed a gun.
Onegu called me, Koshi, and damdred scum all game and on day 3 and up keep saying we were scum and that was it. his only reads were posted on d1 and he tunneled.

Also see above post for Gb.

Right now Onegu is just a huge questionmark for me.

Was just about to say the same. Looks like he waited almost whole IRL day before exposing himself to the thread. Is that a meta thing for him? Not to jump to conclusions, but it seems like he was waiting for a few other people (like Scott, GB, and ShapeLog) to come under a bit of fire before he would garner any attention himself. Not saying I have a lean on him but I'd feel much better if he would share with the class a little.

Onegu questions!
Onegu, what do you think about the game so far?
Onegu, why do you think that?
Onegu, any scum leans?
Onegu, are u going to notice me senpai?

.........still waiting.......... I hope this doesn't turn into damdreds bomb.

TheCow

Canada24 Posts

December 30 2015 01:03 GMT

#378

Okay, finally caught up! Here's my introduction proper.

Hello everyone, I'm TheCow. This is my first game here on the TL site. I have previous experience on other sites such as TownOfSalem and MafiaScum as well as several anime and manga sites such as MangaFox. I look forward to playing here.

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##vote:Kmatt

I am voting Kmatt because I believe he has a reasonable chance of being scum at this time. The specifics of this is up to debate but here are my primary points:

1) Kmatt appears to be sort of inconsistent with his stances in a way which -- in my eyes -- suggests he's playing in a opportunistic manner. First example: Posts 187 and 192.
2) The appearance of minor [active lurking] in that I cannot see many definitive stances, contention points, or general conviction in his filter.
3) Flimsy accusations where they exist (Kmatt->GB, Kmatt->Onegu).

Another scum read I currently have is Scott. Here are some direct quotations from my notes:
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Scott->Irish TR cite " extremely doubtful a newb mafia makes the post above with the information available". After implying GB is scum/bad/some combination thereof. "hmmm..." The posts Scott chooses to look at are the pretty benign one. Looks like he is attempting to appear that he is going through the thread without going through the thread -- active lurking. Need further information, but scumlean for now.

Because of scott's lower activity level and because he is already the leading wagon, I decided to place my vote on my secondary scum read (Kmatt) as I believe it will be far more productive.

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At this time, I have town-leans on Noct, Shapelog, (tentatively) Giygas.

I have null reads on Irishbound (conflicted), Fidei (do not trust myself to read this slot), GB (conflicted), Onegu (do not trust myself to read this slot), mderg (require further reading), nooniansoong. (S,T,T,~,~,S) respectively.

nooniansoong

1538 Posts

December 30 2015 01:07 GMT

#379

S,T,T,~,~,S
Wat

mderg

Germany1740 Posts

December 30 2015 01:08 GMT

#380

On December 30 2015 10:07 nooniansoong wrote:
S,T,T,~,~,S
Wat

I guess it should indicate slight leans on each of those people.