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Damdred
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Rels
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On December 12 2015 15:03 RtaniSoul wrote: Game? I've been mislynched once on this site, in large part because I failed to convince geript that DP was a skeezy scumbucket with a geript in his pocket. Artie remembers Imperial and remembers a more aggressive DP. I glanced through the town game before that just in case replacing in might have had an effect on DP's play, but no dice. Aggressive there right out the starting gate. These are only a few games, but given they support the perception we already have... Where you getting this from, rayn? -waves at DP- Because pointing out that you're buddying people is definitely not worth mentioning or anything ^^ We up for a round two? arsoul: "DP buddies people and is not very aggressive, contrary to what we remember" On December 12 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is the last game i remember playing with DarthPunk when we were both town. This is his filter in the game. Basically i know DP is usually aggressive and i can see where you are coming from. Obviously it's nor out of the realm of possibilities he is mafia here, but i disagree in him not being "aggressive enough" makes him mafia. He treats different people differently, and i know for a fact he buddies to strong players (if you read the filter the "proof" is there). Basically this game is filled with people who in my opinion do not respond well -- or at all -- to pressure, at least unfounded pressure (i mean situations where the game has went on for hours and there is not really anything scummy in thread -- disagree?). At the time you called him out, what in your opinion should he have done as town? Should he have questioned something? Should he have pressured something more? In my opinion, when i read the thread at that point, i didn't see anything wrong -- which is i, myself decided to comment on the only read i could be even semi-sure of. Also bringing up Imperial is in my opinion a bit of a misjudgement (or what the fuck is the word). He replaced into a game on N3...... Of course there is going to be some reads he has rofl. If he hadn't any reads on a thread that is @ N3, he could just quit mafia. Comparing that game to this one (at 6 hours into the game with only 3 people properly even posting) is quite a stretch. rayn: "DP buddying people and not being aggressive enough is not a reason to scumread him" On December 13 2015 01:10 RtaniSoul wrote: P.S. Thanks rayn! I'll take a look at your link...later? Maybe when I'm waiting at the airport to pick up Lex. Also, just to be clear, my point was the buddying and not the aggression...I am well aware that DP can be aggressive as either alignment, and we are both aware that Imperial is different, which is why I looked up the other town game (Avogadro, to be precise). So let me rephrase. Buddying without pushing anything early game is what caught our attention. Now ciao for realz ^^ arsoul: "TY rayn but let me raphrase: buddying without being aggressive is the weird thing". | ||
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Rels
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On December 13 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually they came to a different conclusion than i did so i would not call that "rephrasing". Explain the post above then. Cause to me: - they say X - you say X is not scum indicative - they say "let me rephrase it: we meant X" | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 13 2015 01:59 Rels wrote: Explain the post above then. Cause to me: - they say X - you say X is not scum indicative - they say "let me rephrase it: we meant X" Yeah that's true.  | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Damdred
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Rels
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On December 13 2015 02:24 Damdred wrote: I'm still unsure why this makes him scum? Why is rephrasing a point that you think is strong (but they will check on) scum indicative. And I don't want to say why I think they rephrased anyway. Cause it means they didn't read it carefully, when it was an answer to them. Why would they be "OK rayn but here it what we means: XXX" and rayn said previously to them "XXX don't make DP scum" ? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 13 2015 02:24 Damdred wrote: I'm still unsure why this makes him scum? Why is rephrasing a point that you think is strong (but they will check on) scum indicative. And I don't want to say why I think they rephrased anyway. I actually realize there is town!explanation to this aswell. ^^ But since we srsly need more posting from people that are not posting enough i wanna hold on to some things and let people either towntell or scumtell by themselves.. I'm gonna watch a movie, be back later. Hopefully a wild marvybear appears in the meantime. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 13 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels i have a really hard time understanding your thought process atm so could you walk me through it. There are a couple of things: 1) Your read on Greymist. I actually find it one of the weirdest things in this game that he does not have any sort of read on me. Before your posts two of the three people posting in this game besides him and me have stated they have a townread on me. What i would think Greymist would do is to either agree with the read, or disagree with the read (let it be null/scum for him then). Instead he doesn't do any of this. I consider myself the most vocal person in this game so far besides Damdred --> i would think people would have at least some opinion on me. Apparently you do aswell now, everyone else who has posted (after our morning) does, why is it not weird for you that Greymist doesn't? (that goes to Greymist aswell, i would like to hear an explanation to this) 2) Your read on RtaniSoul. You think they are second likely to be mafia (calling marv mafia here is just straight out bullshit), based on the fact all they did is call your #1 scumread scum?!?!?! How on earth does this make any sense at all? 3) Why is your vote on someone you can't possibly have any read on instead on someone who you DO apparently have a read on, and you legitmately, based on you, think is mafia? I don't have time at the moment to post any follow up analysis, so I will only answer the question directed at me. I did not include any thoughts on you, Ryan, in part because you have been vocal. There is a little more for me to have to figure out and I'd like to not post a read on you until I have. It's going to be a couple more hours still before I'm able to actually post a lot again, but I promise I'm reading and can interject if need be. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 13 2015 03:20 GreYMisT wrote: I did not include any thoughts on you, Ryan, in part because you have been vocal. There is a little more for me to have to figure out and I'd like to not post a read on you until I have. Isn't this like... idk... supposed to help to get a read on someone? I mean them being vocal.. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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I believe it is impossible there is two mafia in DarthPunk/RtaniSoul/Rels. Rels has basically drawn himself into a situation where he scumreads both of the other above and it is really hard to naturally back off from it in case he is accusing a scumbuddy. I also don't believe RtaniSoul would accuse DarthPunk for stuff i find out be "not concrete" and actually argue about it vocally when confronted about it in case they were both mafia. So my believe is there is at most 1 mafia in those three people. RtanisSoul looks the most town of those three anyways, and i would say they are about 80% likely to be town. I believe Damdred is town, and i don't see any reason to believe otherwise. Which brings me to the following. At this point i am certain there has to be at least one mafia in Greymist/marvellosity. marv is not here, has not posted, so discussing him is waste of time atm. Which is why i am very interested in what Greymist has to say about the other people in this game. Idk, maybe it is just a feeling and doesn't mean anything but i feel like he is kinda "holding back" for some reason?!?! So when you have time, Greymist, could you please share your current thoughts on people. I don't care if the reasons are weak or whatever, since i don't really have any strong reasons for any of my reads other than the one on Damdred, but the fact is you could, and should, give us something to work with. | ||
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Damdred
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DarthPunk
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On December 12 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wait DP, do you also think Greymist is town for what he posted so far? Nope. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On December 12 2015 23:10 Rels wrote: I don't like this post. It reads to me like "look I'm doing stuff" @DP Why did you do that and what did you find ? I did it because I have never played a game with you and I have played with everyone else in this game. Basically I just wanted to get a grasp on who you were as a player. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On December 12 2015 23:18 Rels wrote: Another thing from DP I don't like. He says "rayn is town"; nobody questions him about it; 6 minutes later after rayn ignores this post, he posts an explanation. I could see him being scum waiting for someone to ask for his explanation, then posting it anyway. Just my posting style. I post in bits. Although I like the pressure. Keep it up! | ||
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DarthPunk
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Town marv with one post? Don't think so. Things I like: The Hydra Townie. You can see their thought process. Rso is clearly dealing with a healthy case of townie paranoia. The fact that they have to discuss things and the fact that they appear to be having genuine conversations with one another regarding their recollections of my meta. Rayn I guess you would call this a 'tone' read or whatever, but I am pretty darn good at spotting a townie rayn and alot of what he says makes sense. HIs damdred read was godlike and hard to fake as I have said earlier. His questioning of Rels was also good in that it showed one of the tendencies that I can recall rayn having. That being that he loves to really comb through the things people are saying in order to find small inconsistencies or breakdowns of a normal thought Process. Rels Not everything he has posted really makes sense, but he is aggressive and is able to change tack really quickly. I also kinda like the dissonance between what he is saying and where he is voting. Like that is something really obvious that scum would avoid IMO and reads like someone who does not give a fuck. Does not give a fuck = Good Things I don't like: The hydra trying to meta read me. Especially cause it is just RSO posting and she has played in exactly 1! game with me ever. Just don't use meta. You don't know how and it is horrible when used incorrectly. Marv | ||
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DarthPunk
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Marv Is this Bish dead in a ditch? if not town marv does not just afk at the start of a game IMO. GreyMist On December 13 2015 03:20 GreYMisT wrote: I don't have time at the moment to post any follow up analysis, so I will only answer the question directed at me. I did not include any thoughts on you, Ryan, in part because you have been vocal. There is a little more for me to have to figure out and I'd like to not post a read on you until I have. It's going to be a couple more hours still before I'm able to actually post a lot again, but I promise I'm reading and can interject if need be. This smells like bullshit to me. | ||
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DarthPunk
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Damdred
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