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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 13 2015 00:48 Rels wrote: I will vote him as long as he doesnt do something Do you seriously think that this will provoke some sort of different response from marv based on if he is mafia or town? Because i can tell you it won't.. | ||
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Damdred
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 13 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels i have a really hard time understanding your thought process atm so could you walk me through it. There are a couple of things: 1) Your read on Greymist. I actually find it one of the weirdest things in this game that he does not have any sort of read on me. Before your posts two of the three people posting in this game besides him and me have stated they have a townread on me. What i would think Greymist would do is to either agree with the read, or disagree with the read (let it be null/scum for him then). Instead he doesn't do any of this. I consider myself the most vocal person in this game so far besides Damdred --> i would think people would have at least some opinion on me. Apparently you do aswell now, everyone else who has posted (after our morning) does, why is it not weird for you that Greymist doesn't? (that goes to Greymist aswell, i would like to hear an explanation to this) 2) Your read on RtaniSoul. You think they are second likely to be mafia (calling marv mafia here is just straight out bullshit), based on the fact all they did is call your #1 scumread scum?!?!?! How on earth does this make any sense at all? 3) Why is your vote on someone you can't possibly have any read on instead on someone who you DO apparently have a read on, and you legitmately, based on you, think is mafia? 1 - I explained why I thought that: I think townies are more likely to admit they have null reads, especially since there is only a few pages. 2 - yep - it has nothing to do with who they called out. Obviously if dp flips scum arsoultin is super likely town. But without association, I don't think what they did is enough to find them town. 3 - if left alone, scums will either hide between inactive or push mislynch on inactive. I push useless people to play so that can't happen | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Could you tell me your thoughts on gm? And you tr Darth correct? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 13 2015 00:56 Damdred wrote: I am not sure what you want to accomplish with trying to pressure someone that can't be pressured though... I don't care: if Marv doesn't do anything until tomorrow he's most likely scum. | ||
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Damdred
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 13 2015 00:58 Rels wrote: 1 - I explained why I thought that: I think townies are more likely to admit they have null reads, especially since there is only a few pages. 2 - yep - it has nothing to do with who they called out. Obviously if dp flips scum arsoultin is super likely town. But without association, I don't think what they did is enough to find them town. 3 - if left alone, scums will either hide between inactive or push mislynch on inactive. I push useless people to play so that can't happen 1) so your answer is in fact "no, i don't". 2) Excuse me but how do you actually read anyone town in a game if not for "they are trying to lynch people who are likely mafia" or "their reads align with mine"? I don't mean normally in a game, i mean in this game where all people are actually capable of posting good looking posts as mafia. 3) and again, your vote doesn't have any influence to the game (on marv). The only thing it does is that you look bad for not actually committing to push your actual scumread, if i am totally honest here.. On December 13 2015 00:58 Damdred wrote: Rayn I know we are both on the what is rels doing wagon. Could you tell me your thoughts on gm? And you tr Darth correct? My thoughts on Greymist are basically in the post towards Rels i just quoted above. Not sure if he is scum. I don't exactly townread DP. I don't scumread him either. I townread you and RtaniSoul, and Rels looks definitely the worst atm. On December 13 2015 00:58 Rels wrote: I don't care: if Marv doesn't do anything until tomorrow he's most likely scum. Yes, that is true. And you can vote for him tomorrow evening if he doesn't do anything. I will even follow you 100% if that is the case. Rn your vote, however, is not helping much as stated. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
So i suggest you stop if you are town. | ||
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RtaniSoul
552 Posts
So yeah I'm rolling out...the laptop is getting packed now. Lex is in the air. We're not giving reads we haven't discussed just cause ew arguing with yourself in the thread, no bueno. Notes from what we discussed last night: 1. Damdy probably town for feels reasons + no longer ignoring us (me) and because we're easy targets this phase given it started on our travel day and there was no prior positive sentiments in the thread about us (art). 2. DP and rayn probably are not scum together given their interactions. (I don't remember if lex mentioned a read on rayn though so I'll just sit on mine. Or you can read between the lines, whichever you prefer.) 3. Neither of us feel good about DP, but could be conf bias and/or paranoia (on my part). One thing that we both noted was his reaction to us was dismissive. Given his follow-up, he could have thought that everyone knows he buddies as either alignment so my post was the equivalent to him of "humans breathe air," which might justify the response, however he neither tried to probe for our meaning (citing it as "obscure" later) or came to any conclusion about our alignment. It seemed more an attempt to discredit to me. Other reads will come later even though I want to comment now lol >< Have to be good and wait for my second (better?) half to get a chance to catch up. Likelihood is low that we post again before Sunday morning, just as an fyi, but we will if we can. Ciao! P.S. Thanks rayn! I'll take a look at your link...later? Maybe when I'm waiting at the airport to pick up Lex. Also, just to be clear, my point was the buddying and not the aggression...I am well aware that DP can be aggressive as either alignment, and we are both aware that Imperial is different, which is why I looked up the other town game (Avogadro, to be precise). So let me rephrase. Buddying without pushing anything early game is what caught our attention. Now ciao for realz ^^ | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 13 2015 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels i assure you you will not get townread for "too stupid/suicidal to be scum". So i suggest you stop if you are town. Or I do what I want. Now how is me voting for Marv instead of dp when I have suspicions on dp scummy ? | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
I still want you to tell me like I'm five why Darth should be a hard scum read and lynch today. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 13 2015 01:23 Damdred wrote: Because you are basically wasteing your vote when you could be convincing the rest of the thread about Darth being scum? I still want you to tell me like I'm five why Darth should be a hard scum read and lynch today. I don't feel I'm wasting my vote though. I have nothing else than what I wrote earlier. If DP was a hard scum read I would be pushing him. I found weird that: - he mentionned explicitely reading my past games; the scum motivation here is pretend to do stuff, when that stuff is not helpful - he said he had a townread on rayn; rayn posted something; he explained his read. The scum motivation for this is to bait a question with a non explained read to appear townie; but when rayn didn't ask for an explanation, he felt compelled to give it anyway to not have an unexplained post in his filter. Arsoultin also have a scum meta read on him that I want to see rayn answers to. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
P.S. Thanks rayn! I'll take a look at your link...later? Maybe when I'm waiting at the airport to pick up Lex. Also, just to be clear, my point was the buddying and not the aggression...I am well aware that DP can be aggressive as either alignment, and we are both aware that Imperial is different, which is why I looked up the other town game (Avogadro, to be precise). So let me rephrase. Buddying without pushing anything early game is what caught our attention. When you look at Avogadro (i honestly forgot i was even in the game -- probably because i replaced into it) do you see a difference in how DP treats me, VE and geript in that game in contrary to others? Would you want to guess why? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 13 2015 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have already answered that meta read. Rereading, this is fucking true. On December 13 2015 01:10 RtaniSoul wrote: P.S. Thanks rayn! I'll take a look at your link...later? Maybe when I'm waiting at the airport to pick up Lex. Also, just to be clear, my point was the buddying and not the aggression...I am well aware that DP can be aggressive as either alignment, and we are both aware that Imperial is different, which is why I looked up the other town game (Avogadro, to be precise). So let me rephrase. Buddying without pushing anything early game is what caught our attention. rayn already answered that specific point wasn't scum indicative, why are you restating it ? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On December 13 2015 01:38 Rels wrote: Rereading, this is fucking true. rayn already answered that specific point wasn't scum indicative, why are you restating it ? Are you saying that its scum indicative of them? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 13 2015 01:42 Damdred wrote: Are you saying that its scum indicative of them? Yep. They rephrased something rayn answered entirely already. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 13 2015 01:43 Rels wrote: Yep. They rephrased something rayn answered entirely already. Actually they came to a different conclusion than i did so i would not call that "rephrasing". | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On December 13 2015 01:43 Rels wrote: Yep. They rephrased something rayn answered entirely already. can you explain why this instance is scum indicative of them? | ||
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