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On December 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! This is WIFOM. marv was scum, so he did what he wanted to give his team the best chance of success. And here you find weird that marv did not vote me if I'm not scum; but above you say me being scum matches with me switching off him. Why do you not consider the possibility that I'm town seeing the exact thing you're finding weird and decided marv might be town ?
what exactly were you seeing?
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On December 17 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! This is WIFOM. marv was scum, so he did what he wanted to give his team the best chance of success. And here you find weird that marv did not vote me if I'm not scum; but above you say me being scum matches with me switching off him. Why do you not consider the possibility that I'm town seeing the exact thing you're finding weird and decided marv might be town ? what exactly were you seeing?
marv was not voting me when it was the obvious way to survive.
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On December 17 2015 00:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i am back to thinking DP is town.
Fuck this game is hard. Only because you assume Artasoul would roll over and die or concede if they were scum. Show me the townie mindset behind the posts I quoted above.
I FUCKING CAN'T. I don't know if there is a scum motive or town motive, I can't do that either with your posts aswell...
I am waffling like a fucking ping pong ball and i don't even know why.. I don't find your conversation with them useful from either end rn..
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On December 17 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! This is WIFOM. marv was scum, so he did what he wanted to give his team the best chance of success. And here you find weird that marv did not vote me if I'm not scum; but above you say me being scum matches with me switching off him. Why do you not consider the possibility that I'm town seeing the exact thing you're finding weird and decided marv might be town ? what exactly were you seeing? marv was not voting me when it was the obvious way to survive.
Yes, and this points towards you being town how?
Like this is my biggest problem. Why does marv not vote for you if you are town? WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NOT VOTE FOR A TOWNIE WHEN IT WILL SAVE HIM 99
% OF THE TIME?!?!?!
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On December 17 2015 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:33 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i am back to thinking DP is town.
Fuck this game is hard. Only because you assume Artasoul would roll over and die or concede if they were scum. Show me the townie mindset behind the posts I quoted above. I FUCKING CAN'T. I don't know if there is a scum motive or town motive, I can't do that either with your posts aswell... I am waffling like a fucking ping pong ball and i don't even know why.. I don't find your conversation with them useful from either end rn..
This is a weird post.
The scum motivation in Artasoul posts is obvious: appealing to emotions to survive.
If you can't find a townie motivation, I don't see why you are not considering the scum motivation to be likely.
I also don't see how you can not find a townie motivation in my posts. You could be doubtful that it's faked; but you not finding it is weird.
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because i do not think there is scum motive either. AtE is wifom at best. AtE is as much of a scum motive than it is a town motive. BECAUSE IT IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE!!! Otherwise both the hydra and DP would be mafia.
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On December 17 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! This is WIFOM. marv was scum, so he did what he wanted to give his team the best chance of success. And here you find weird that marv did not vote me if I'm not scum; but above you say me being scum matches with me switching off him. Why do you not consider the possibility that I'm town seeing the exact thing you're finding weird and decided marv might be town ? what exactly were you seeing? marv was not voting me when it was the obvious way to survive. Yes, and this points towards you being town how? Like this is my biggest problem. Why does marv not vote for you if you are town? WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NOT VOTE FOR A TOWNIE WHEN IT WILL SAVE HIM 99 % OF THE TIME?!?!?!
It doesn't show I'm town. What I'm pointing out as weird is:
On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
I told lex when I first saw this post that if marv is scum, Rels had a good chance of being his partner for this. It's completely lining up the switch from marv to DP the moment marv posts.
If Artasoul finds weird that marv doesn't vote for me, it's weird they are not considering that I found it weird to and reacted by townreading marv.
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On December 17 2015 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
because i do not think there is scum motive either. AtE is wifom at best. AtE is as much of a scum motive than it is a town motive. BECAUSE IT IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE!!! Otherwise both the hydra and DP would be mafia.
They're appealing to you directly in that post; without checking if their gut feel is true first; and while promising to do a "filter analysis" as soon as you accept.
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Arsoul you accused DP of not having a position, but I don't even know if you're still scumreading DP or if you went back to me. If you could do the "filter analysis" that was promised on both DP and I and make up your mind it would be great.
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On December 17 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 17 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! This is WIFOM. marv was scum, so he did what he wanted to give his team the best chance of success. And here you find weird that marv did not vote me if I'm not scum; but above you say me being scum matches with me switching off him. Why do you not consider the possibility that I'm town seeing the exact thing you're finding weird and decided marv might be town ? what exactly were you seeing? marv was not voting me when it was the obvious way to survive. Yes, and this points towards you being town how? Like this is my biggest problem. Why does marv not vote for you if you are town? WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NOT VOTE FOR A TOWNIE WHEN IT WILL SAVE HIM 99 % OF THE TIME?!?!?! It doesn't show I'm town. What I'm pointing out as weird is: Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
I told lex when I first saw this post that if marv is scum, Rels had a good chance of being his partner for this. It's completely lining up the switch from marv to DP the moment marv posts. If Artasoul finds weird that marv doesn't vote for me, it's weird they are not considering that I found it weird to and reacted by townreading marv.
I don't understand any of the shit you say here in this stream of quotes.
It's like you are talking about two different things and somehow making it seem like they are one thing...
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On December 17 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 17 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! This is WIFOM. marv was scum, so he did what he wanted to give his team the best chance of success. And here you find weird that marv did not vote me if I'm not scum; but above you say me being scum matches with me switching off him. Why do you not consider the possibility that I'm town seeing the exact thing you're finding weird and decided marv might be town ? what exactly were you seeing? marv was not voting me when it was the obvious way to survive. Yes, and this points towards you being town how? Like this is my biggest problem. Why does marv not vote for you if you are town? WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NOT VOTE FOR A TOWNIE WHEN IT WILL SAVE HIM 99 % OF THE TIME?!?!?! It doesn't show I'm town. What I'm pointing out as weird is: On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
I told lex when I first saw this post that if marv is scum, Rels had a good chance of being his partner for this. It's completely lining up the switch from marv to DP the moment marv posts. If Artasoul finds weird that marv doesn't vote for me, it's weird they are not considering that I found it weird to and reacted by townreading marv. I don't understand any of the shit you say here in this stream of quotes. It's like you are talking about two different things and somehow making it seem like they are one thing...
I'm obvious town. But marv WIFOM is a strong argument against me. The end; GG marv.
I still don't understand you. You are 100% sure Artasoul is scum; then they make a bunch of posts that you say "there are AtE so they are NAI!"; and you don't scumread them anymore.
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If Artasoul finds weird that marv doesn't vote for me...
No, that's not what anyone is saying. Hydra is/was saying it most likely makes you mafia!!
...it's weird they are not considering that I found it weird to and reacted by townreading marv.
what the fuck does this mean?
Of course you are not gonna admit/say that marv did not vote for you because you are mafia.
What the fuck is this sentence even TRYING to say?
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On December 17 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 17 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 17 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! This is WIFOM. marv was scum, so he did what he wanted to give his team the best chance of success. And here you find weird that marv did not vote me if I'm not scum; but above you say me being scum matches with me switching off him. Why do you not consider the possibility that I'm town seeing the exact thing you're finding weird and decided marv might be town ? what exactly were you seeing? marv was not voting me when it was the obvious way to survive. Yes, and this points towards you being town how? Like this is my biggest problem. Why does marv not vote for you if you are town? WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NOT VOTE FOR A TOWNIE WHEN IT WILL SAVE HIM 99 % OF THE TIME?!?!?! It doesn't show I'm town. What I'm pointing out as weird is: On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
I told lex when I first saw this post that if marv is scum, Rels had a good chance of being his partner for this. It's completely lining up the switch from marv to DP the moment marv posts. If Artasoul finds weird that marv doesn't vote for me, it's weird they are not considering that I found it weird to and reacted by townreading marv. I don't understand any of the shit you say here in this stream of quotes. It's like you are talking about two different things and somehow making it seem like they are one thing... I'm obvious town. But marv WIFOM is a strong argument against me. The end; GG marv. I still don't understand you. You are 100% sure Artasoul is scum; then they make a bunch of posts that you say "there are AtE so they are NAI!"; and you don't scumread them anymore.
This doesn't make sense.
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On December 17 2015 00:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 17 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 17 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! This is WIFOM. marv was scum, so he did what he wanted to give his team the best chance of success. And here you find weird that marv did not vote me if I'm not scum; but above you say me being scum matches with me switching off him. Why do you not consider the possibility that I'm town seeing the exact thing you're finding weird and decided marv might be town ? what exactly were you seeing? marv was not voting me when it was the obvious way to survive. Yes, and this points towards you being town how? Like this is my biggest problem. Why does marv not vote for you if you are town? WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NOT VOTE FOR A TOWNIE WHEN IT WILL SAVE HIM 99 % OF THE TIME?!?!?! It doesn't show I'm town. What I'm pointing out as weird is: On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
I told lex when I first saw this post that if marv is scum, Rels had a good chance of being his partner for this. It's completely lining up the switch from marv to DP the moment marv posts. If Artasoul finds weird that marv doesn't vote for me, it's weird they are not considering that I found it weird to and reacted by townreading marv. I don't understand any of the shit you say here in this stream of quotes. It's like you are talking about two different things and somehow making it seem like they are one thing... I'm obvious town. But marv WIFOM is a strong argument against me. The end; GG marv. I still don't understand you. You are 100% sure Artasoul is scum; then they make a bunch of posts that you say "there are AtE so they are NAI!"; and you don't scumread them anymore. This doesn't make sense.
Fine. Then call me fucking scum and see how that goes.
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On December 17 2015 00:30 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:23 RtaniSoul wrote:On December 17 2015 00:18 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:10 RtaniSoul wrote:On December 16 2015 23:25 Rels wrote:On December 16 2015 23:20 DarthPunk wrote:On December 16 2015 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:I really don't know what else to say at the moment. If DP is not going to do anything further i am never switching my vote. I understand this is pretty shitty if he is town as we live on the other sides of the world and we have basically not been in the thread at all at the same time due to time zones / constraints.  But still i believe this is the most likely correct answer at this point. it's actually fine for me to die. Just make sure you get the last lynch right. NO ITS NOT FINE UNLESS YOU ARE SURE THAT THE LAST SCUM IS ARSOUL, AND YOU ARE SURE THAT WE WILL LYNCH THEM. COME AND PLAY THE FUCKING GAME what is this rels? I don't know I assume you will tell me soon ? No, explain what you were thinking. I'm thinking that it's not fine he's thinking him getting lynched is fine.
Why not? Only DP and I can be scum to you, right? How does his post merit that sort of reaction?
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On December 17 2015 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:No, that's not what anyone is saying. Hydra is/was saying it most likely makes you mafia!!Show nested quote +...it's weird they are not considering that I found it weird to and reacted by townreading marv. what the fuck does this mean? Of course you are not gonna admit/say that marv did not vote for you because you are mafia. What the fuck is this sentence even TRYING to say?
You're right, it only makes sense from my PoV. This is something that point at me being scum and I can't do anything against it. So it also true it's normal Artasoul didn't consider it from "Rels is town" perspective, whatever their alignement is.
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On December 17 2015 01:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:If Artasoul finds weird that marv doesn't vote for me... No, that's not what anyone is saying. Hydra is/was saying it most likely makes you mafia!!...it's weird they are not considering that I found it weird to and reacted by townreading marv. what the fuck does this mean? Of course you are not gonna admit/say that marv did not vote for you because you are mafia. What the fuck is this sentence even TRYING to say? You're right, it only makes sense from my PoV. This is something that point at me being scum and I can't do anything against it. So it also true it's normal Artasoul didn't consider it from "Rels is town" perspective, whatever their alignement is.
There is no "rels is town" -perspective for anyone because YOUR REACTION IS MOST LIKELY THE SAME REGARDLESS OF YOUR AFFILIATION!!
That is the point.
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On December 17 2015 00:49 Rels wrote:
Arsoul you accused DP of not having a position, but I don't even know if you're still scumreading DP or if you went back to me. If you could do the "filter analysis" that was promised on both DP and I and make up your mind it would be great.
We're trying to get a read on you through interaction, obviously
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On December 17 2015 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:57 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 17 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 17 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! This is WIFOM. marv was scum, so he did what he wanted to give his team the best chance of success. And here you find weird that marv did not vote me if I'm not scum; but above you say me being scum matches with me switching off him. Why do you not consider the possibility that I'm town seeing the exact thing you're finding weird and decided marv might be town ? what exactly were you seeing? marv was not voting me when it was the obvious way to survive. Yes, and this points towards you being town how? Like this is my biggest problem. Why does marv not vote for you if you are town? WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NOT VOTE FOR A TOWNIE WHEN IT WILL SAVE HIM 99 % OF THE TIME?!?!?! It doesn't show I'm town. What I'm pointing out as weird is: On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote:
I told lex when I first saw this post that if marv is scum, Rels had a good chance of being his partner for this. It's completely lining up the switch from marv to DP the moment marv posts. If Artasoul finds weird that marv doesn't vote for me, it's weird they are not considering that I found it weird to and reacted by townreading marv. I don't understand any of the shit you say here in this stream of quotes. It's like you are talking about two different things and somehow making it seem like they are one thing... I'm obvious town. But marv WIFOM is a strong argument against me. The end; GG marv. I still don't understand you. You are 100% sure Artasoul is scum; then they make a bunch of posts that you say "there are AtE so they are NAI!"; and you don't scumread them anymore. This doesn't make sense. Fine. Then call me fucking scum and see how that goes.
No you being super unsure is town indicative actually. But either explain to me what did you find townie a these NAI posts, or realize that it's not logical for you to think that.
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On December 17 2015 00:59 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 00:30 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:23 RtaniSoul wrote:On December 17 2015 00:18 Rels wrote:On December 17 2015 00:10 RtaniSoul wrote:On December 16 2015 23:25 Rels wrote:On December 16 2015 23:20 DarthPunk wrote:On December 16 2015 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:I really don't know what else to say at the moment. If DP is not going to do anything further i am never switching my vote. I understand this is pretty shitty if he is town as we live on the other sides of the world and we have basically not been in the thread at all at the same time due to time zones / constraints. But still i believe this is the most likely correct answer at this point. it's actually fine for me to die. Just make sure you get the last lynch right. NO ITS NOT FINE UNLESS YOU ARE SURE THAT THE LAST SCUM IS ARSOUL, AND YOU ARE SURE THAT WE WILL LYNCH THEM. COME AND PLAY THE FUCKING GAME what is this rels? I don't know I assume you will tell me soon ? No, explain what you were thinking. I'm thinking that it's not fine he's thinking him getting lynched is fine. Why not? Only DP and I can be scum to you, right? How does his post merit that sort of reaction?
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