EPTAre you willing to give up when we flip town?
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RtaniSoul
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Are you willing to give up when we flip town? | ||
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DarthPunk
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Rayn I would love to play one of these games where the mafia team tries a bit harder. It kinda sucks that the game is solved already. Anyway ##vote: RtaniSoul | ||
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RtaniSoul
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On December 16 2015 06:08 DarthPunk wrote: I think the hydra is a better lynch than Rels. Rayn I would love to play one of these games where the mafia team tries a bit harder. It kinda sucks that the game is solved already. Anyway ##vote: RtaniSoul lol | ||
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RtaniSoul
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DarthPunk
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Thanks for your input. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On December 16 2015 06:18 RtaniSoul wrote: If you want to win the game today instead of in 72 hours you should probably lynch Rels instead I don't think rels is more likely to be scum than you are. I actually quite strongly believe the opposite. | ||
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RtaniSoul
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On December 16 2015 06:22 DarthPunk wrote: I don't think rels is more likely to be scum than you are. I actually quite strongly believe the opposite. Then you're quite strongly wrong. | ||
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RtaniSoul
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 saaadness -poofs- | ||
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GreYMisT
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RtaniSoul
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On December 12 2015 23:27 Rels wrote: ##Vote marv Do stuff or die. Otherwise here is my mind atm: rayn Damdred grey Arta/rsoul marv DP I told lex when I first saw this post that if marv is scum, Rels had a good chance of being his partner for this. It's completely lining up the switch from marv to DP the moment marv posts. There's nothing here to suggest he'd even think twice about it or that it's a real scumread. Also, note that this post came well before marv had been absent long enough from the thread to start getting a mountain of votes. Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! Point 3: Rels doesn't actually believe what he's saying when he says our "reasons" are bad for our reads. Specifically, Rels stated in the scum QT of Drams that it made sense that rayn sided (incorrectly) with his fake claim because he was being logical while I sided (entirely correctly) with the real RBer for...his townie tone. Not only did he recognize that rsoultin bases her reads on tone, but he used some of her reads in his towngame that just ended. This is made up to attempt to throw scum on us and he doesn't really believe it. Point 4: Rels is try-harding. Town, unless they believe there is scum in rayn/dp, doesn't need to try-hard. We've won! Bad townies will look at Rels and go damn, he's trying so hard, he must be town. But they're missing the obvious. Only scum needs to try here. Joke's on him, though No amount of try-harding will keep him from being lynched Day 3.When we flip town, reread this amazing case without prejudice, and vote Rels for ultimate justice. And yes...we rock. We don't need to try-hard to win  Ciao | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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DarthPunk
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On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote: Why Rels is scum: I told lex when I first saw this post that if marv is scum, Rels had a good chance of being his partner for this. It's completely lining up the switch from marv to DP the moment marv posts. There's nothing here to suggest he'd even think twice about it or that it's a real scumread. Also, note that this post came well before marv had been absent long enough from the thread to start getting a mountain of votes. Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! Point 3: Rels doesn't actually believe what he's saying when he says our "reasons" are bad for our reads. Specifically, Rels stated in the scum QT of Drams that it made sense that rayn sided (incorrectly) with his fake claim because he was being logical while I sided (entirely correctly) with the real RBer for...his townie tone. Not only did he recognize that rsoultin bases her reads on tone, but he used some of her reads in his towngame that just ended. This is made up to attempt to throw scum on us and he doesn't really believe it. Point 4: Rels is try-harding. Town, unless they believe there is scum in rayn/dp, doesn't need to try-hard. We've won! Bad townies will look at Rels and go damn, he's trying so hard, he must be town. But they're missing the obvious. Only scum needs to try here. Joke's on him, though No amount of try-harding will keep him from being lynched Day 3.When we flip town, reread this amazing case without prejudice, and vote Rels for ultimate justice. And yes...we rock. We don't need to try-hard to win Ciao I actually like this post ##unvote | ||
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DarthPunk
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On December 16 2015 12:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think we need a train. What does this mean? | ||
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Rels
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On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote: Why Rels is scum: I told lex when I first saw this post that if marv is scum, Rels had a good chance of being his partner for this. It's completely lining up the switch from marv to DP the moment marv posts. There's nothing here to suggest he'd even think twice about it or that it's a real scumread. Also, note that this post came well before marv had been absent long enough from the thread to start getting a mountain of votes. This is not a scum indicator; this is a narrative. I would arguee that I wouldn't put a vote on my teammate this early in the game, especially since I had DP as potential scum; but this if WIFOM and cannot be used to determine alignment. On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote: Point 2: marv votes DP and not Rels. Even if we assume that he really did AFK as scum while being lynched after returning to the thread last minute to try to squirm out of a lynch, he was still in the thread when rayn voted Rels at the very least. He did not vote to survive, and we know that this was not because he was town. That makes it very likely that Rels is scum! This is WIFOM. marv was scum, so he did what he wanted to give his team the best chance of success. And here you find weird that marv did not vote me if I'm not scum; but above you say me being scum matches with me switching off him. Why do you not consider the possibility that I'm town seeing the exact thing you're finding weird and decided marv might be town ? On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote: Point 3: Rels doesn't actually believe what he's saying when he says our "reasons" are bad for our reads. Specifically, Rels stated in the scum QT of Drams that it made sense that rayn sided (incorrectly) with his fake claim because he was being logical while I sided (entirely correctly) with the real RBer for...his townie tone. Not only did he recognize that rsoultin bases her reads on tone, but he used some of her reads in his towngame that just ended. This is made up to attempt to throw scum on us and he doesn't really believe it. This is bad. Only once in my rage post did I call you out of a read based on tone; on the very last sentence. You adequating "me saying you have bad reads" and "me saying you have bad reads because these reads are based on tone" is disforming what I've said. Now I've said your GM read is bad: it was based on (1) a townie tone and (2) WIFOM. Guess what. GM himself said he played differently because he was blue, so I have no idea how you could not find his tone "scummy". I know he looked dodgy to me when I interrogated him. Now I return the compliment. rsoultin was able to townread me in a game then scumread me in another based on how I nitpick stuff. Her not being able to see I'm town here when it's obvious to anyone who knows me is another sign that you've probably decided I was the best mislynch to victory. On December 16 2015 12:01 RtaniSoul wrote: Point 4: Rels is try-harding. Town, unless they believe there is scum in rayn/dp, doesn't need to try-hard. We've won! Bad townies will look at Rels and go damn, he's trying so hard, he must be town. But they're missing the obvious. Only scum needs to try here. Joke's on him, though No amount of try-harding will keep him from being lynched Day 3.I always tryhard, so this is NAI. BTW you're the one tryharding right there. (= | ||
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Rels
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RtaniSoul
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On December 16 2015 18:08 Rels wrote: arsoul will you try tomorrow if we lynch me ? I wanna see how you try to get DP lynched. This is extremely tempting. If you get lynched before us and are town there's no way DP will get lynched, no way Rayn will listen to us. We're actually thinking of really going over DP one more time before the flip just to make sure you're the scum, but there wouldn't be a point to that if Rayn is unwilling to consider him. Which means it's actually better for us to get lynched first. So, to Rayn: If we analyze DP and end up thinking he's more likely scum than Rels, will you listen to us after we flip town? ##Unvote ##Vote RtaniSoul | ||
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DarthPunk
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Doesn't make sense from a town perspective IMO. Like i think as town you either care about the game or you don't I don;t think townies will mess around with how they are perceived like the hydra is doing. | ||
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Rels
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RtaniSoul
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On December 16 2015 19:27 DarthPunk wrote: I don't get why if the hydra say they look scummy cause they don;t give a fuck and it doesn't matter, why do they suddenly start giving a fuck while still pretending to NOT give a fuck? Doesn't make sense from a town perspective IMO. Like i think as town you either care about the game or you don't I don;t think townies will mess around with how they are perceived like the hydra is doing. You can stop trying to analyze our alignment now. We're flipping today and are fine with it since it's the only way to legitimize our reads at this point. If we somehow get Rels lynched before us today we're always getting lynched over you if you're scum anyway so this approach seems smarter to us. You should probably focus on burying rels now. | ||
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