On December 17 2015 00:09 Rels wrote:This TS case on me means he's probably scum. He listed a bunch of reasons that don't make me scum; two of which are so obviously NAI that if he had thought about them for 10 seconds he wouldn't have writtent them; and the first reason doesn't make sense.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
Rels There is a lot I don't like. I really dislike how he targeted LS and once LS went half caps lock Rels backed off. To me it looked like Rels was backing off from a fight which I don't think town Rels does.
You semi townread LS for the exact reason I do. But for some reason it makes me scum because "town Rels doesn't back off fights". Well, I don't often back down fights as either alignements, as you should know since apparently you read one of my scum game.
So I have two problems with town!you believing the above:
- Scumreading me for townreading LS based on a caps post; but at the same time half townreading LS for said post
- Saying me backing off fights is my scum meta when you say you've read a scum game of mine
On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
The next thing he does is finds out Onegu's smurf. I clicked the link, it was page 46 of a 134 page game. There's got to be some easy way to do that I can't really believe he went through the database to wade through games.
Are you insinuating I'm scum with Onegu ? 'cause that is the only way I could had "cheated" on that; if I was scum and he was town, I wouldn't have an easier way to find the info than if I was town.
If the answer is YES; it's inconsistent with your Onegu townread, so I won't consider it.
If the answer is NO; as proved above, this is not alignement indicative. So you wrote something that look good but has no impact of my alignement in a series a reason as to why I am scum.
On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
Shit I went through LS games to see if he did the scum/town bold thing and that took forever. (0 instances of his scum games, 4 instances otherwise not counting this one).
What are you talking about, and why is this not in the LS explanation ?
On December 16 2015 23:06 RtaniSoul wrote:
After he backs off LS, I vote him and he goes sort of after GiygaS. Later he cases Damdred then really dislikes me. So everyone of his attacks is against a lurker and OMGUS's.
1 - even if it was true, so ?
2 - you coincidentally forgets that I was OK lynching TT until he looked better at EOD.
On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
I think he opportunisticly exaggerates. The shockingly different games of LS, how he is my only scum read even though I clearly was suspicious of others earlier but I didn't use the magic X person is mafia (funny I never said that about him either just voted). I think he exaggerated Damdreds meta. Damdred doesn't always play the same. If he did then I would think the veterans here would say they read him well or immediately.
I've said what I thought. You agree with the facts as seen by your part on Damdred, you kinda disagree with the conclusion. I don't see how I can be opportunistic when you don't find Damdred town; please show me where I'm opportunistic BTW.
On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
I also feel like he knew GlowingBear would flip town. I also think this play is well within his mafia range. he was prettygood in the witch game I read.
If both GB and kush are town, scum are more likely to not care about the lynch. Me pushing more for kush doesn't make me town, but it clearly doesn't make me scum either.
On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
The big doubt is if Kushm4sta is mafia or town. I don't think Rels was trying very hard to save GB or kill Kushm4sta. if Kush is mafia then I think Rels has to be town. He was consistent that Kush is null while he said GB is carefree town. If Kush is town then Rels can easily be mafia. Easy.
Yep. I can be mafia and I can not be. So that is another NAI point in your case, that you say is NAI.
The caps lock reasons are pure teasing you. What you are saying is that I am also solely TRing Koshi because he had 1 post near EOD that was all caps lock. That's silly. I am most definitely NOT TRing LS because he had half a post that was caps. But I did want to check it. First I saw he didn't use it as scum but then I wondered if he did as town. So, I checked that too. I still think it's a silly reason so I made fun of you for it. For the record I TR LS for his comfortable tone and he has a bigger filter than I think mafiaLS would. I may have stated before but for LS I don't pay too much attention until D2.5/3 because then he is OBVIOUS. His caps lock statement was NAI. Even though he hasn't done it in his 4 scum games, I think he's entirely capable of it. So it's NAI, but apparently for you it overcomes a SHOCKING difference.
The time it took me to do the above made me think how long it would have taken me to find out Sukrit's identity. I'm more curious to hear how you did it. It would take me days so there must be a trick. But the point is you spent time on smurf hunting rather than solving the game while you are not being active. When I have lots of time to solve the game then smurf hunting is fine, but you haven't been that active so you are wasting that limited resource on smurf hunting? Really? At least it wasn't blue hunting so there's that but still.
yeah, you were OK with lynching TT. TT who had heat on him from several of the town leaders. Way to stick your neck out and make a bold read. I don't think townRels backs down from any fight. I think mafiaRels may or may not back down. Your targets were LS, GiygaS, me, TicTock, and lackluster Damdred. Damdred is the only one in that list that wouldn't qualify as an easy target and that's purely based on reputation. Then you vote completely null Kush. you didn't want to put in the work for getting one of your targets lynched. You took the easy way. I think townRels would have done more.
I don't think you cared about the lynch. I'll concede it's possible confirmation bias but the tone I read in your 3-4 posts "hey guys GB might be bad lynch" is just acting. I don't think you cared at all. Now the important information we need to use this indifference is both GB's and Kush's alignment. If Kush is mafia then your indifference makes you town as mafiaRels would care and probably wouldn't be voting teammate Kush. BUT if Kush is town then indifference could be either and with everything else I think this piece sums you mafia. But we dont' know Kush's alignment yet.
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