EPTAnyways, looking through TT filter right now since i remember this post (spoiled):
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On December 17 2015 05:59 Tictock wrote:
Ok so trying to hash out my read on Rit a bit better and I just can't seem to feel confident about him one way or the other.
He makes some solid points and shows some clear thinking, but then other times he talks about stuff like he's got some magic mind-meld read on people. The real issue I have with the mind meld stuff is it only works for Rit (as in will never change other people's minds because it's not based on something tangible) and we just have to take his work on those reads. Similarly I think it's kinda shit that he claims "Only girls have a 100% read on LS" which sounds kinda like he's just leaving himself room to change his read on LS.
I'm also finding Rit's EoD very lackluster. He was around and responding to some of my posts but other than that he only posts these 2 posts to push his own reads.
It looked like Kush was going to be the lynch right up until I voted and Damdred tried to Shenannie, but this was all Rit did to try and get the lynches he wanted (Myself or GB).
It's also pretty shit then how Rit attacks Damdred after EoD for getting GB lynched since GB was his preffered lynch.
Just feels out of place given Rit wanted to flip GB.
Also I must have missed this before, but I'm confused about Rit's read on Kush.
His reads post comes first but this was the post I missed:
So Kush is potentially mafia, but Rit doesn't want to go down that rabbit hole due to Kush townreading him... I have no idea what the last bit is referring to. It's like he's leaving room for Kush to be mafia but gives a handwavy explanation why he doesn't want to push that. Feels really off especially since Rit goes off to defend Kush pretty hard at EoD.
Here we see Rit has Kush as his 2nd most town after Shape
He even explains this read to me and defends it when Rels is asking about it
I've already discussed the weird townread on Shape, and I saw shape make a big tinfoil case on Rit regarding it (need to read that better, only had time to skim it) so that is another point to consider here.
On the other hand Rit's push on me had some good explanations even if it's just making a big deal of me reevaluating my thoughts, and the way that he was interacting with me near EoD feels pretty geniune.
The first part looks very towny to me, especially the bolded:
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He talks about his read on me again here:
The bolded line is not true iirc. I think Shape pointed this out at some point as well, but I was one of the first people to dislike Shapes early posting and the shit about "Snap conceded/fucked off" is obviously laughable now. So in this post Rit is inventing reasons to scum read me. While lining up one of his own townreads as a potential scum and is pushing a now confirmed townie.
I didn't even realize when I started anylizing that post how fucking shit it was. But now that I've looked over #393 pretty carefully I see Rit is pushing 3 mislynchs there while inventing reasons to push them.
I've seen Rit play rather strongly as mafia before in the Newbie game I ran, he is rather good at it. Look this shit over though I think Rit is a soild chance at scum here.
Which brings me up to 3-4 scum reads now in Gig/Rit/Vivax/ and maybe Kush.
I think I need to get back to solidifying my townreads because right now I think if we lynch out these people we win the game.
According to OP I can donate my posts
This is the last of my time today as I have to head to my 2nd job soon. So I'm giving the rest of my posts to Shape.
##Donate 15 posts to Shapelog
Ok so trying to hash out my read on Rit a bit better and I just can't seem to feel confident about him one way or the other.
He makes some solid points and shows some clear thinking, but then other times he talks about stuff like he's got some magic mind-meld read on people. The real issue I have with the mind meld stuff is it only works for Rit (as in will never change other people's minds because it's not based on something tangible) and we just have to take his work on those reads. Similarly I think it's kinda shit that he claims "Only girls have a 100% read on LS" which sounds kinda like he's just leaving himself room to change his read on LS.
I'm also finding Rit's EoD very lackluster. He was around and responding to some of my posts but other than that he only posts these 2 posts to push his own reads.
It looked like Kush was going to be the lynch right up until I voted and Damdred tried to Shenannie, but this was all Rit did to try and get the lynches he wanted (Myself or GB).
It's also pretty shit then how Rit attacks Damdred after EoD for getting GB lynched since GB was his preffered lynch.
Just feels out of place given Rit wanted to flip GB.
Also I must have missed this before, but I'm confused about Rit's read on Kush.
His reads post comes first but this was the post I missed:
So Kush is potentially mafia, but Rit doesn't want to go down that rabbit hole due to Kush townreading him... I have no idea what the last bit is referring to. It's like he's leaving room for Kush to be mafia but gives a handwavy explanation why he doesn't want to push that. Feels really off especially since Rit goes off to defend Kush pretty hard at EoD.
Here we see Rit has Kush as his 2nd most town after Shape
He even explains this read to me and defends it when Rels is asking about it
I've already discussed the weird townread on Shape, and I saw shape make a big tinfoil case on Rit regarding it (need to read that better, only had time to skim it) so that is another point to consider here.
On the other hand Rit's push on me had some good explanations even if it's just making a big deal of me reevaluating my thoughts, and the way that he was interacting with me near EoD feels pretty geniune.
The first part looks very towny to me, especially the bolded:
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I still don't get why everyone blows up at me for thinking about NAI or null things out loud, but I guess I should learn to change that up. Last game GB and Vivax tunneled me the shit out of me D1 for a very similar post, here it is so you can compare for yourself.
On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote:
Hmm?
You might have a point here, especially revealing so early before he could even see the affects of smurfing.
FF tends to play fairly lazily the first few days and picks it up later. Maybe he rolled mafia and was worried people would push him early on?
Course all of this is assuming it's actually FF and not someone trying to mind game us early... that's pretty tinfoily though and would be a pretty silly play.
Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now.
Hmm?
You might have a point here, especially revealing so early before he could even see the affects of smurfing.
FF tends to play fairly lazily the first few days and picks it up later. Maybe he rolled mafia and was worried people would push him early on?
Course all of this is assuming it's actually FF and not someone trying to mind game us early... that's pretty tinfoily though and would be a pretty silly play.
Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now.
He talks about his read on me again here:
The bolded line is not true iirc. I think Shape pointed this out at some point as well, but I was one of the first people to dislike Shapes early posting and the shit about "Snap conceded/fucked off" is obviously laughable now. So in this post Rit is inventing reasons to scum read me. While lining up one of his own townreads as a potential scum and is pushing a now confirmed townie.
I didn't even realize when I started anylizing that post how fucking shit it was. But now that I've looked over #393 pretty carefully I see Rit is pushing 3 mislynchs there while inventing reasons to push them.
I've seen Rit play rather strongly as mafia before in the Newbie game I ran, he is rather good at it. Look this shit over though I think Rit is a soild chance at scum here.
Which brings me up to 3-4 scum reads now in Gig/Rit/Vivax/ and maybe Kush.
I think I need to get back to solidifying my townreads because right now I think if we lynch out these people we win the game.
According to OP I can donate my posts
This is the last of my time today as I have to head to my 2nd job soon. So I'm giving the rest of my posts to Shape.
##Donate 15 posts to Shapelog
Do not know why mafia would give someone who is reading off town to most people more posts. Reason why i looking over filter right now.
