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Rels
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Rels
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- Palmar advocated his lynch - I saw him play a lot of dota and not caring for the game, which is what he did when he was scum with me in sotw Will reread his filter at some point to see if that checks with his posts, but this seems like a good lynch. | ||
Fecalfeast
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what a good towny. Who should I sheep? | ||
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Fidei86
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disformation
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Hm. geript said in the obs QT of last game that if a town player that has very little or no pull with the thread gets nk'ed that most often means he is right. Especially if that player is an experienced one. Palmar had little pull and is an experienced player. So him disliking fidei and/or LS could be a thing. Also don't like that Fidei had no follow up on: On December 05 2015 00:25 Fidei86 wrote: I will. I'll also read DYH's filter this evening. Work is slow today, so I've been able to play a lot of Mafia, but it's all phone posting. That being said I want to check his stance on HtS yesterday and see what he brings after catching up. Will also be looking at DYH, Trfel and LS later, when I am at home. On December 07 2015 20:46 Fecalfeast wrote: lol accidentally fallout until 3:45 what a good towny. Who should I sheep? Dunno, there seem to be a bunch of candidates for today. So you know, you could like... read their (trfel/fidei/disformation) filters and the cases on them and decide which one you like most/least? -.- | ||
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Fidei86
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On December 07 2015 22:17 disformation wrote: post from work: Hm. geript said in the obs QT of last game that if a town player that has very little or no pull with the thread gets nk'ed that most often means he is right. Especially if that player is an experienced one. Palmar had little pull and is an experienced player. So him disliking fidei and/or LS could be a thing. Also don't like that Fidei had no follow up on: That being said I want to check his stance on HtS yesterday and see what he brings after catching up. Will also be looking at DYH, Trfel and LS later, when I am at home. Dunno, there seem to be a bunch of candidates for today. So you know, you could like... read their (trfel/fidei/disformation) filters and the cases on them and decide which one you like most/least? -.- If you look back at my filter, you'll see that in my first or second post, I ping out HTS as being possible mafia based on her approach. I'm pretty proud of my read there. I don't see why I would have posted that early if I was on a team with Dani. I was also one of the first to make the point that Alex's read meant we had to lynch her. It was sort of the focus of my entire D2. As to not following up over the weekend - what can I say. I wasn't enthused to play much. Dani was going to get lynched whatever, and I ended up doing other things all weekend. Given that my filter is already pretty long and I've given tons of reads, I'm not sure that "he went AFK for a weekend" is a good enough reason to lynch me. In fact, it really isn't. | ||
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NocturneMage
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On December 07 2015 21:37 Fidei86 wrote: Morning Rels. Yes I played a lot of dota with Dani over the weekend. Yes I sort of lost interest a bit in the game over the weekend. No I'm not Mafia. Yes I will catch up this evening. Fidei was probably discussing Mafia strategy with HTS in dota land before she was lynched Saturday night. Typical dota players. (that was a complete joke btw...I'm a League player so of course I will say this)  | ||
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NocturneMage
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Damdred was going back and forth, finding reasons for both rationales of town and mafia Trfel. I think Trfel is the right vote today, but if you're that suspicious of Fidei aside from the reasons I looked into him, what were your other arguments? | ||
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Fidei86
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On December 07 2015 22:30 NocturneMage wrote: Fidei was probably discussing Mafia strategy with HTS in dota land before she was lynched Saturday night. Typical dota players. (that was a complete joke btw...I'm a League player so of course I will say this) I asked her to give you a message that I see through all of your many lies, but it was a joke.* *Possibly not a joke. :-) | ||
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Fidei86
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On December 07 2015 22:31 NocturneMage wrote: Rels Damdred was going back and forth, finding reasons for both rationales of town and mafia Trfel. I think Trfel is the right vote today, but if you're that suspicious of Fidei aside from the reasons I looked into him, what were your other arguments? I really need to stop with the meta/tone reads, but this really feels like town Rels to me. Mafia Rels is tryhard Rels. Obviously lynching me because Palmar was struggling with my alignment and because I went afk is a pretty ehh reason to lynch me (especially as I was right from the start on HTS), so it sort of seems like he is dis-interested town more than anything. | ||
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disformation
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But here you are "only" slightly suspicious... and what is a little scum lean between good partners?  On December 01 2015 21:45 Fidei86 wrote: @Rels I have looked over HTS' posts, and I am more okay with #209 now that I've read it a few times. There's nothing particularly objectionable in there. At #219, I disagree with her read on the Palmar / Shining interaction. There is something very strange about Shining's progression, and HTS just skates past it. She then at #224, #237 and #246 goes forward and then back on on Trfel. She asks Shining about people other than Palmar, but noticeably doesn't ask Palmar about people other than Shining. I know that HTS is very much a fan of Palmar's scum play. I know that she has previously had him as a coach and that she generally speaks highly of him as a player. It is strange to me that she almost specifically avoids interacting with him, or making any comments about him. Honestly, if she can't read him, it seems like the rest of us don't have a chance. None of the above is a guaranteed scum-tell. But I find it somewhat suspicious. Town HTS nitpicks as well, but I just always get the sense that she is going somewhere with her thoughts. That seems lacking to me. Still want to look at your whole filter and progression on HtS later tonight. The thing is: someone had to bus her. From my POV two someones have bussed HtS and I am going to find out who.  | ||
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Rels
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On December 07 2015 22:31 NocturneMage wrote: Rels Damdred was going back and forth, finding reasons for both rationales of town and mafia Trfel. I think Trfel is the right vote today, but if you're that suspicious of Fidei aside from the reasons I looked into him, what were your other arguments? None. | ||
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Rels
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On December 07 2015 22:53 disformation wrote: The thing is: someone had to bus her. From my POV two someones have bussed HtS and I am going to find out who. Weird thing to say ? | ||
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disformation
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How so? I am the only one who didn't vote her and unless I have misread my role PM, I am quite sure I am town. Thus, the conclusion that both remaining scummers bussed HtS. This might even include one of the ppl who had an early case/suspicion on her. | ||
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NocturneMage
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On December 07 2015 22:41 Fidei86 wrote: I really need to stop with the meta/tone reads, but this really feels like town Rels to me. Mafia Rels is tryhard Rels. Obviously lynching me because Palmar was struggling with my alignment and because I went afk is a pretty ehh reason to lynch me (especially as I was right from the start on HTS), so it sort of seems like he is dis-interested town more than anything. Meh, I honestly thought Rels was town from merely reading his filter as I was catching up. Anyhow, I think most people from what I realise tend to not play as much on the weekend because it's the weekend - regardless of the d2 lynch, I'm saying for games in general, I've noticed mafia games in general are slower on weekends. | ||
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NocturneMage
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On December 07 2015 20:46 Fecalfeast wrote: lol accidentally fallout until 3:45 what a good towny. Who should I sheep? I completely missed this post....I know this is how you played in the Newbie 17, but still.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. do us all a good favour and start making cases at some point when you were actually arsed to? | ||
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NocturneMage
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NocturneMage
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right now, it's possible LS could be scum but based on the NKs I'm going to put him and DYH aside at this time, as scum and having been scum, you want to really eliminate the biggest threats. the only way this wouldn't apply is if you were universally townread, but that doesn't seem to be the case for any of my scumreads, so.... unless someone wants to make a non-meta based case on Fidei, the only point really sticking out at me is the soft pushing d1, and no offence James, but you know Dani and I well enough, if you DIDN'T sheep me I would have called you out on it, and if I recall right at no point in the game did you scumread me despite calling out my tone for being a "Jack Russell on meth" (lol?). So I really think that is not alignment indicative, you'd do it as town and you'd HAVE to do it as mafia. | ||
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Rels
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On December 07 2015 23:12 disformation wrote: How so? I am the only one who didn't vote her and unless I have misread my role PM, I am quite sure I am town. Thus, the conclusion that both remaining scummers bussed HtS. This might even include one of the ppl who had an early case/suspicion on her. That's true you were the only vote not on HTS. | ||
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NocturneMage
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look I don't know the guy, but from the games I have read where dani has played I understand there is a pattern where some players know each other extremely well. like I look at the database, palmar has shittonnes of games played. does palmar know anyone here so well that he can ping them out well out of the blue even if he is not scumreading them now? is he known as someone who has late game heroics? who in this group might be threatened by him regardless of his reads at any point in the game? I see trfel and ls have approx 18-20 games played, I think recalling, and we know palmar was townreading ls or buying into the modconfirmation thing (which means ls should have no reason to shoot him in theory), dyh about 15, so IDK, ff high 20s, the rest far less than this. trfel is already being suspected by palmar, but thoughts on the rest? I realise this is quite random but I'm just trying to see if he possibly could ferret out another long time player and maybe that person could have been feeling threatened by him or his knowledge of the game. palmar was obviously taking a lazy way of solving the game so who here could have been getting scared of palmar once he decides to pull it together and solve? any takers? 4th game on TL folks. since so many of you are throwing meta out | ||
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