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On December 04 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:I think fidei's passive 'switch to kush' wasn't actually trying to start shenanigans but the way he's playing it off now makes it suspicious. Like he says here (in the nested quote) that he didn't think people would follow him ontoi that shitty lynch. If it was shitty... Why was he there? On December 04 2015 09:27 Fidei86 wrote:On December 04 2015 09:25 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 04 2015 09:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey, I was surprised as everyone else that you all followed me into that shitty lynch. But technically Palmar was the first mover, I was just the first one to urge everyone to switch. Why did I scowl so hard after reading this post? That was weird maybe because it sort of reads like I (a) say you all followed me into the lynch and (b) it actually wasn't my fault. I'm sort of trying to have my cake and eat it. You're right. I wasn't the first person to have the idea, but I probably was the one that caused it. I was wrong and I'm sorry. Then this pandering to me when I call out the post, without actually voicing any concern. Fidei doesn't ask me to explain he knows he looks bad because he's thinking about his image. He even apologizes to me when I literally said nothing of value about his post. The shining, I haven't read his filter tbh but he's got a decent tone in his recent posts that makes me think he's town but I skim a lot lol. HTS was really pushing hard that you(LS) were town and switched to kush pretty easily from what I recall following the EoD before I replaced in. Another filter I'll have to look at. OK so I only have strong feelings on fidei (scummy) right now I will check out HTS and shining This is in response to LS
Fair enough. Let me know what new info you get from reading their filters.
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On December 04 2015 10:36 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:31 NocturneMage wrote:
I don't ever recall playing with you.
And you still aren't answering the question. Who are your scumreads? Names, reasons. let's go. Idk I'll be blunt on that. Maybe DYH if I wrong on him.
So both you and disformation (confirm?) think DYH is bussing HTS?
well answer for yourself...why? in your own words, why?
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EBWOP - or do you not think HTS is scum and you think he's mislynching her? either way what is making him mafia?
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On December 04 2015 10:39 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:36 LightningStrike wrote:On December 04 2015 10:31 NocturneMage wrote:
I don't ever recall playing with you.
And you still aren't answering the question. Who are your scumreads? Names, reasons. let's go. Idk I'll be blunt on that. Maybe DYH if I wrong on him. So both you and disformation (confirm?) think DYH is bussing HTS? well answer for yourself...why? in your own words, why?
Hold your horses I didn't say HTS is scum :o
If I wrong on DYH it's because I thought he was a newbie and Rels case seems okay but not really enough to convince me to vote him right now.
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On December 04 2015 10:41 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:39 NocturneMage wrote:On December 04 2015 10:36 LightningStrike wrote:On December 04 2015 10:31 NocturneMage wrote:
I don't ever recall playing with you.
And you still aren't answering the question. Who are your scumreads? Names, reasons. let's go. Idk I'll be blunt on that. Maybe DYH if I wrong on him. So both you and disformation (confirm?) think DYH is bussing HTS? well answer for yourself...why? in your own words, why? Hold your horses I didn't say HTS is scum :o If I wrong on DYH it's because I thought he was a newbie and Rels case seems okay but not really enough to convince me to vote him right now.
So you think HtS is town?
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On December 04 2015 10:38 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:34 disformation wrote:Ah actually, upon looking at DYH again... Let me bring up Rels case again. Cause it got kinda lost in the forest. On December 03 2015 20:19 Rels wrote:DoYouHas is probably scum: a solid case1. Agreeing to a setup idea that is benefit to scum; without being the first to propose itTalking about this post: On December 01 2015 08:27 Damdred wrote:
Firstly for the roles, nobody should talk about this besides an opinion going forward, if you are a named towny you should claim asap, it narrows down the pool that we lynch from and also gives us more to work with. however if you are the Vet do not claim unless absolutely necessary. If you are shot claim if you aren't shut the hell up. After you use your power claim straight away your findings if you are one shot obviously do not pussy foot away and give mafia the ability to cause town to second guess you. As such thank you for your time in reading this.
On December 01 2015 08:32 DoYouHas wrote:
I second the immediate claim by a boxer if we have one. boxer claiming is (was =X ) bad for town 50% of the time, so this post pushes a scum advantage. Furthermore, he's agreeing with Damdred on that, not taking responsability for the idea. 2. His Trfel's read makes no senseAlready explained here: On December 01 2015 22:22 Rels wrote:I don't like that progression from DoYouHas. On December 01 2015 08:57 DoYouHas wrote:On December 01 2015 08:50 Trfel wrote:On December 01 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.
Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it? Trfel might be mafia since LS clearly posted in the thread why he wouldn't be here till later. Interesting... Okay, what the heck. First of all, if you think about it for a second, you can probably see what I was trying to do. You may not agree with my method, but you know me well enough to see it. Second, why would does this make me mafia in any way? Like, why does the fact that LightningStrike posted that he wouldn't be here at the start of the game have any bearing on my alignment? I assumed your post was a bit of a joke. Reconsidering with how fast you jumped on the defensive here. "Trfel you might be scum." 2 posts later: On December 01 2015 08:57 Damdred wrote:
You are an idiot but you are most likely town.
If you can't explain in a coherent way why I am mafia then obviously I am not. Damdred: "Trfel is most likely town." 1 post later: On December 01 2015 09:00 DoYouHas wrote:
I'm pretty happy with Damdred atm. With the exception of one point in his first post I feel like I've got the mind meld going with him... for now.
TLDR: you crazy trfel "Trfel you're crazy." So Trfel is considered town here. It doesn't add up. ##Vote DoYouHas 3. A total apathy towards the lynchHere are the two posts DYH made after coming back to EOD: On December 03 2015 07:01 DoYouHas wrote:
Catching up now.
I can't see any scum motivation behind Trfel's hard defending of me. It doesn't even look like positioning for my flip is even really a possibility here. I was going after him, voted him, thread sentiment is against me. I'm an easy EASY person for scum trfel to keep the heat on. That he ran the other direction when there is no reason to as mafia is major town points in my book. Unvoting. On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.
##Vote: LS On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is. DYH just didn't care about the lynch. The third post was only made after I tried to get people to vote him. Furthermore, disfo bought a really good point about sheeping his "townreads": On December 03 2015 08:15 disformation wrote:On December 03 2015 08:12 Rels wrote:
I try to shenanni on DYH and nothing happens.
fidei says something about kush and everybody switches.
fuck that I should have yelled Wanted to switch to DYH, but decided to go into his filter and make a post... I kinda want to restate that post, because I think he would be a good lynch so: His reason for voting LS: On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is. Last mention of me in his filter: On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote:
Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped.
Gnight folks
@LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels. So I am kinda asking myself where he got that magical TR on me from... Taking a break now. ConclusionIf we have a vig, you know who to shoot. I don't have a definitive read on Rels yet, but are you suggesting that DYH is bussing HTS for cred? I'm saying this because he's called her out for near identical (and obviously less personal but still just as valid) reasons that I know she is mafia. Then again nearly everyone was scumreading him? Meh I wasn't halfway through the thread when I started breaking on Dani, but what makes you think this?
My big problem with DYH:
Look at his filter. Outside the case on HtS how many reads are there?
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At the EoD1 he says I am a town read of him, when the last mention of me is being in the "middleground-group". So the few reads are kinda magical and can come and go without explanation. And when this is pointed out, he flat out ignores it.
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Mainly the problem I ever had with DYH is mainly just weird vibes from some of his posts but just feelings I guess.
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So for the record: I think DYH is scum. If you are right and HtS is scum, too, then yes he is bussing her. But that is preflip association stuff.
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Hmm okay dis I will check what you saying about his reads and see if you are correct.
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On December 04 2015 10:41 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:39 NocturneMage wrote:On December 04 2015 10:36 LightningStrike wrote:On December 04 2015 10:31 NocturneMage wrote:
I don't ever recall playing with you.
And you still aren't answering the question. Who are your scumreads? Names, reasons. let's go. Idk I'll be blunt on that. Maybe DYH if I wrong on him. So both you and disformation (confirm?) think DYH is bussing HTS? well answer for yourself...why? in your own words, why? Hold your horses I didn't say HTS is scum :o If I wrong on DYH it's because I thought he was a newbie and Rels case seems okay but not really enough to convince me to vote him right now.
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yeah that was from my POV that HTS is scum, because I'm >99% sure she's mafia, but if you don't think she is...
that's a horrible answer though, how is him being a newbie alignment indicative? Why couldn't a newbie try and get someone mislynched, why couldn't Rels make a case on any player of that experience?
I have zero clue what you are trying to say here.
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Hmm his read progression is odd and doesn't seem to come natural. Like you said dis his read progression doesn't really exist from what I checked in his filter. Hmm...
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On December 04 2015 10:45 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:41 LightningStrike wrote:On December 04 2015 10:39 NocturneMage wrote:On December 04 2015 10:36 LightningStrike wrote:On December 04 2015 10:31 NocturneMage wrote:
I don't ever recall playing with you.
And you still aren't answering the question. Who are your scumreads? Names, reasons. let's go. Idk I'll be blunt on that. Maybe DYH if I wrong on him. So both you and disformation (confirm?) think DYH is bussing HTS? well answer for yourself...why? in your own words, why? Hold your horses I didn't say HTS is scum :o If I wrong on DYH it's because I thought he was a newbie and Rels case seems okay but not really enough to convince me to vote him right now. ???????????????????????????????? yeah that was from my POV that HTS is scum, because I'm >99% sure she's mafia, but if you don't think she is... that's a horrible answer though, how is him being a newbie alignment indicative? Why couldn't a newbie try and get someone mislynched, why couldn't Rels make a case on any player of that experience? I have zero clue what you are trying to say here.
It would explain why some of his stuff sounds weird. True mafia loves to lynch town regardless. Sometimes the case is bad?
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Anyways who should we lynch outside of me and HTS and why NM?
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well shit, if you want to make the argument someone is bussing hts and needs the cred, I can see that from a generic standpoint, you had blazinghand in vanilla mafia who pulled that shit off with onegu and people were townreading him for no reason and then damn moosydoosy swindled all of us in newbie 14 by bussing his damn roleblocker all game because he was being scumread by the town leaders in rayn/yamato d1, so, situationally that is plausible.
nothing looked off from the filter but guess I'll re-read in context?
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On December 04 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways who should we lynch outside of me and HTS and why NM?
I'll ask again. So you think HtS is town, I presume? Why? What makes HtS town in your eyes?
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Too make my argument a bit more readable:
- scum is hiding in the middleground
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 08:30 DoYouHas wrote:I don't like a lot about Trfel right now. I don't like that he made a mountain out of a molehill with Damdred and did a snap OMGUS. I don't like how he is sliding between sheeping Palmar and Rels. I don't like how he is complaining that Damdred won't work with him, which should not matter unless his read did a 180 and he is confident Damdred is town, and I really don't like this: Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia. A strong scumread on me with no explanation, even when pressed. Maybe he just doesn't have a good explanation at this point. Side note, he complains that Damdred won't work with him but refuses to work with Damdred when he gets pressed on his reasoning for attacking me. The conciliatory nature of some of Trfels posts gave me pause since he was so bullheaded with his scumgame last time but I would definitely put him top of my list at the moment. I get the town feels from a lot of the movers and shakers this game which makes me think that scum are hiding in the middle ground, so that is where I'm going to look next. P.S. I wasn't trying excuse a lack of posting. I was pointing out that there are large stretches of time where I cannot post. People seemed to be jumping on the wagon simply because I was afk.
- Was reading the middleground ppl (Fid,HtS,LS,disfo), but haven't got anything out of it
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote:
Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped.
Gnight folks
@LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels.
- "Got no scumreads" (really?) "so i am sheeping town" "btw disfo totally town now"
+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.
##Vote: LS On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is.
Wat?
I have pointed this problem out, Rels has pointed this out, but nothing happens.
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On December 04 2015 10:51 NocturneMage wrote:
well shit, if you want to make the argument someone is bussing hts and needs the cred, I can see that from a generic standpoint, you had blazinghand in vanilla mafia who pulled that shit off with onegu and people were townreading him for no reason and then damn moosydoosy swindled all of us in newbie 14 by bussing his damn roleblocker all game because he was being scumread by the town leaders in rayn/yamato d1, so, situationally that is plausible.
nothing looked off from the filter but guess I'll re-read in context?
prob better to read in context. Anyways I know MD had bussed his roleblocker that game because I was just checking it out and pm'd the hosts that Copcake seemed to need a warning or something because her behavior was very unpleasant.
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On December 04 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways who should we lynch outside of me and HTS and why NM?
I'm looking at Fidei and Trfel mainly, Fidei is a combination of association between HTS and overall gameplay and Trfel's constant usage of terrible points to case people just reminds me of his scumgames, but granted, if HTS is one scummer, I have too many people here so obviously I'm wrong on someone.
And there's still others I haven't looked at that I could potentially just be missing or way off target with.
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On December 04 2015 10:51 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways who should we lynch outside of me and HTS and why NM? I'll ask again. So you think HTS is town, I presume? Why? What makes HTS town in your eyes?
I have her null. Like sure she had some weird stuff regarding me and other people but I think it will be easier to get read on her if she is in better health. The HTS I remember when she scum is she hates people trying to lynch her and will look for a lynch that will save her unless her team wants to bus her.
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So DYH could have basically voted anyone D1...
Also the decent posts, where he is looking at HtS, start N1... after NocturneMage got replaced in...
His case is also posted after NM comes in and posts that piece on HtS very likely to be mafia...
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