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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 01 2015 22:27 GMT
#1521
Lynching Onegu or scott is probably correct but I don't feel like pushing anything right now

plus all of the top town + marv are on FF
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 01 2015 22:36 GMT
#1522
Yeah, this is fine

##Vote: ANickelDrink

I agree with TT that he's had no passion about the game after saying that he gives a shit about the game and that he's being incriminated today
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 01 2015 22:38 GMT
#1523
peace out guys, kill yourselves or something
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 04:29 GMT
#1542
On December 02 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, it should be pretty telling that Mafia isn't jumping right on a fair wagon on scott, and that OO can easily lynch lurker Onegu but never ever talks about lurker scott.

It's ridiculous how FF's wagon has piled up

Ridiculous as in mafia-motivated?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 04:31 GMT
#1543
Sorry for being dumb earlier.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 17:16 GMT
#1592
Yeah, Koshi has been saying (mostly) what I'm thinking.

scott and Onegu get lynched this game 100% for doing nothing all game. It might be correct to lynch one of them today but look at FF's filter from today... yeah. If 2/3 of those are town then I'm fine losing this game. Then looking at OO vs GB in LYLO if it gets there.

It might just be FF Onegu scott honestly.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 17:36 GMT
#1594
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 17:37 GMT
#1595
On December 03 2015 02:32 Onegu wrote:
So I am really sick. I feel like shit.

Game says no replacements and it is day 3 anyway. It also says no modkills...

I will throw my vote on koshi again. Maybe will fill better later.

##Vote Koshi

hngggggggggggggggsdf
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 19:17 GMT
#1600
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 21:45 GMT
#1611
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 21:46 GMT
#1612
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 22:01 GMT
#1615
nice
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 22:03 GMT
#1616
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 22:09 GMT
#1619
On December 03 2015 07:06 sicklucker wrote:
I would say town now is the favorite to win but the order of lynches here will be very important

What do you mean? Or is it something that shouldn't be said during night
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 02 2015 22:14 GMT
#1621
Ah okay, wasn't sure what the "order of lynches" meant
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 03 2015 07:25 GMT
#1638
So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions:

On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:
On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim

Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details?



No I am just claiming VT.

Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now.

I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early...

On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.


...

On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:

i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.


that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here

On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that?


ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense...

Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him...

lynch ff for sanity


And this post makes you fairly scum

On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:

Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.

Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.

SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.

Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere

Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know).

scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners.

Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later.

OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2.

GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 03 2015 07:27 GMT
#1639
On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 08:48 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:46 Chromatically wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that?


ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense...

Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him...

lynch ff for sanity

Hmm, I had the opposite reaction. Why would he be afraid of being outed as a smurf?


Ok so ff has a very high perecentage of rolling town. Town is like 80% of the players. Why would he make a smurf when hes only getting mafia like 23% of the time or whatever. Especially when he historically never gets mafia anyway..

lol..


Hmm?

You might have a point here, especially revealing so early before he could even see the affects of smurfing.

FF tends to play fairly lazily the first few days and picks it up later. Maybe he rolled mafia and was worried people would push him early on?

Course all of this is assuming it's actually FF and not someone trying to mind game us early... that's pretty tinfoily though and would be a pretty silly play.

Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now.

Also, I thought it was pretty hilarious how this post looks even worse now that you know it's talking about flipped mafia
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 03 2015 07:33 GMT
#1640
I don't think an scott-Onegu-FF team is unlikely. It feels too easy but I really don't think there's anything wrong with it.

Quoting that post reminded me of how I thought GB's push on TT over the one post was weird. I discounted it at the time because I liked him as town but I should go see how it looks now.

#nightposting #comeatme
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 03 2015 20:59 GMT
#1666
Hmm, that's definitely some good stuff SL (some of it is still in the voting thread btw).

I agree on TT, everyone wasting their vote with him so close to being lynched makes him highly likely town there.

On December 04 2015 04:17 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 06:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Abstimmung - Tag 2


Sn0_Man (2): Koshi, ObviousOne, Tictock, sicklucker
ObviousOne (2): Chromatically, Koshi, GlowingBear
ANickelDrink (2): Koshi, sicklucker

Nicht abgestimmt (7): Sn0_Man, Onegu, boxerfred, ANickelDrink, scott31337, Vengeful Spirits, Benevolent Ghosts

Im Moment werden wir Sn0_Man von der Tour ausschließen!
Dieser Tag endet in um 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Bitte geben Sie ihre Stimme hier ab.
Wir werden nur Stimmen berücksichtigen die von dem Stimmzähler erfasst wurden.
(Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.)

Beachten Sie bitte die Wahlfrist! Wenn nicht Sie nicht abstimmen, werden sie vom Spiel entfernt werden.
(Please mind the deadline. Failure to vote will result in a modkill.)



Gb makes oo the second wagon early day two. This suggests they are probably not team mates

But gb scott and ff all do end up voting for oo in the end. This acualy suggests OO is mafia probably with scott and ff. After reading this vote logic I think we have to move onegu out of are poe list and lynch

Scott
Gb
OO

and thats probably never changing. All three voted together to save OO over sno man on day 2. While onegu did not even vote. This probably means onegu is town and the two mafia are in the other two.

On December 04 2015 04:24 sicklucker wrote:
Conclusion - Since onegu did not vote in any meaningful manner this game I find it very hard to believe hes mafia. Mafia would at least ask his team mates who to vote if he was not playing the game and process to afk vote in a way that gives mafia a chance to win. Onegu did not do this but scott however did.

Onegu is never flipping mafia here and since we only have 2-3 guaranteed lynches we should focus on the other 3 players who have a track record of voting together. Oo might have jsut tricked me with dumbtells ff literally hammered to save him altho how he and scott ended up voting OO should be reread because they both voted Snow_man over OO when it mattered.

I like the first point you make here about scott/FF voting to save OO, that makes a lot of sense.

I disagree on Onegu though. IF OO is mafia, then I agree that Onegu is unlikely to be with him because his teammates would have told him to make a relevant vote D2. But, if OO is town then that means that every single wagon this game has been irrelevant (D1+D2 would be two town and D3 was a runaway wagon), meaning that Onegu has no reason to care about any lynch as mafia. I think this means that Onegu and OO aren't mafia together, but not that Onegu has to be town here.

I should reread the D2 votes for myself to see if it actually makes perfect sense but I really do like the theory of FF+scott trying to swing the votes off of OO. GB is the wildcard for me.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 03 2015 21:02 GMT
#1667
On December 03 2015 23:45 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 23:32 ObviousOne wrote:
i fucking love lists

11. scott31337 - mafia with no apprehension
6. Onegu - mafia with slight apprehension
3. TicTock - need to read again
1. Koshi - koshi, either mafia genius or mad town scientist
4. Chromatically - less strongly but strongly feel town
9. GlowingBear - strongly feel town on this
13. sicklucker - confirmed

just writing it down so i hopefully don't forget to look at tictock again when i wake up


This is a fucking weird list man

Retracting my tentative townread on you..

You afk voted Chrom yesterday and now he's top 3 town?

You have no read on me or Koshi at all, so we end up 3rd and 4th scummiest?

Yeah... scott had two votes yesterday but OO votes me instead? Gives a noncommittal opinion on FF too.

Have to resist tunnel though...
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