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Superbia
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You keep pushing this logic about how Rels would yayvote a mission with a mafia on it, but I really don't see how he could when he scumreads at least one player on the mission and make any sense of it. I would also still like to hear what your reasons are for considering Xata so town. I am trying to say i think Rels would have approached the situation differently. Obviously he "can't yay-vote the team" if you just look at what he posted, but my interpretation is that if he was scum he would not post what he did during the voting phase. My read on Xatalos is based on meta. Like based on the last game i don't really look into small inconsistancies that he posts, or him saying he thinks both me and him (while that i stupid) should be included on the mission 2. If someone wants to prove he is scum feel free to and i am willing to listen, i don't think kitaman's case makes him scum. The fact that (gameplay-wise) sicklucker thinks i have 60%+ chance of being scum and he is arguing why Xatalos is scum instead of why i am scum should be scum-indicative already. At least more than anything Xatalos has posted imo. Like i said, i don't see why anything Xatalos has posted is scummy. What am i supposed to argue about? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:38 Superbia wrote: Like the SL inclusion would be so opportunistic and easy from a scum-rayn POV. I really, really don't understand why he was agreeing so easily with it. Artanis should've been much more obvious from his POV imo. I don't even recall rayn having a strong read on SL pre-inclusion. So now there are three four who can't understand the fact that I NEVER PUSHED SL TO BE ON THE TEAM!!!! fucking retarded. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:23 Superbia wrote: Actually barely have time today, unfortunately. Imo we have to find out which of the three is scum (maybe more). We can't exclude all 3 of them in the team, because if we get a fail we're essentially fucked in the ass. In my world Xatalos is either exclusively with rayn or not scum (though rayn could be independently scum). SL is a fucked-up case, as I really can't see him in the team ever again. His reactions don't help. My other problem is that Artanis/HtS are both on the yes votes despite not being on the team, which kind of means I don't want to include them on the team. The team I would suggest would be: Rayn/Xatalos/Superbia/Kita (or perhaps Artanis instead of Kita, since Kita could be with SL- I'm still a little stuck on who the last member would be- probably someone who is/was on the raynistown-train). Which means that if this team produces a fail rayn would probably be for sure mafia. Yes, I understand that this could be a set up if I'm mafia myself, but get fucked. So to re-iterate: we cannot make a team which excludes all members of the first team at this point in time, as a fail would mean absolutely fuck all. I also know that people had some questions for me: rayn and rels. Rels I don't remember your question so please restate it asap (maybe I'll find it after this post). Rayn, I stated that I had the willies on you and HtS even though you both felt town. I've explained this I believe. Why do you think Xatalos could be town? Read what I posted on him and tell me if you think that makes any sense. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: So now there are three four who can't understand the fact that I NEVER PUSHED SL TO BE ON THE TEAM!!!! fucking retarded. Then why the fuck did you vote yes??? Why not wait until Artanis, who was next, makes the team??? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: So now there are three four who can't understand the fact that I NEVER PUSHED SL TO BE ON THE TEAM!!!! fucking retarded. I quoted two quotes where you clearly did, yes you said otherwise earlier, but there's a reason now why multiple peple are saying this. We all can't be scum rayn....or insane for that matter  | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:36 Superbia wrote: Because you shared the exact same town-reads as me at a certain point. I have a question for you rayn- as you are now starting to push scum onto me. Who am I with? I don't even think you are top 3 scum if you are reading the thread properly.... I am just questioning you of the stuff that doesn't make any sense. If you have not realized i am okkay with you being on the team that would go on a mission rn... | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't even think you are top 3 scum if you are reading the thread properly.... I am just questioning you of the stuff that doesn't make any sense. If you have not realized i am okkay with you being on the team that would go on a mission rn... Good. That was not clear to me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:40 Superbia wrote: Then why the fuck did you vote yes??? Why not wait until Artanis, who was next, makes the team??? Having sicklucker as townread != sicklucker is the best pick as third member of this team. That's what you guys are saying, that's not what i did. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am trying to say i think Rels would have approached the situation differently. Obviously he "can't yay-vote the team" if you just look at what he posted, but my interpretation is that if he was scum he would not post what he did during the voting phase. My read on Xatalos is based on meta. Like based on the last game i don't really look into small inconsistancies that he posts, or him saying he thinks both me and him (while that i stupid) should be included on the mission 2. If someone wants to prove he is scum feel free to and i am willing to listen, i don't think kitaman's case makes him scum. The fact that (gameplay-wise) sicklucker thinks i have 60%+ chance of being scum and he is arguing why Xatalos is scum instead of why i am scum should be scum-indicative already. At least more than anything Xatalos has posted imo. Like i said, i don't see why anything Xatalos has posted is scummy. What am i supposed to argue about? Hmm, I think that Rels maneuvered himself into this corner and couldn't really get out of it anymore when the mission was being voted for. Bussing makes a decent amount of sense in the setup, so I can imagine him bussing SL for things he thinks look very scummy to make himself look better and attempt to get on a team himself. Which, when it fails, will make the other scumbuddy look better and the amount of people on the mission would widen so SL could make it into a second mission. As for Xatalos; I kinda expected you to have something specific you read him on other than him not posting anything scummy given the strength of your read. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:38 ShoCkeyy wrote: You guys need to see how hard rayn is pushing for me to be scum... Like he's desperately trying to sound town and him and data defending each other gives it away even more. He was just on the first mission that got sabotaged and is still trying to target me even though I've already said I don't want to be on a mission. Stfu already rayn, you're mafia and I caught you early on. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:40 Superbia wrote: Then why the fuck did you vote yes??? Why not wait until Artanis, who was next, makes the team??? I would imagine that since he townread me and thought there was a good chance SL was town, I could make the 4-man team with the other three and then win the game. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Until you say something that actually has something to do with people actually being town/mafia you will get scumread and ignored. fact. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I would imagine that since he townread me and thought there was a good chance SL was town, I could make the 4-man team with the other three and then win the game. yes | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Having sicklucker as townread != sicklucker is the best pick as third member of this team. That's what you guys are saying, that's not what i did. you made posts like lol sl is so town then proceded to vote yes with no effort to support artanis | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:45 sicklucker wrote: you made posts like lol sl is so town then proceded to vote yes with no effort to support artanis maybe because XATALOS NOMI*NATED YOU INSTEAD OF ARTANIS?!?!? | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On November 07 2015 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Until you say something that actually has something to do with people actually being town/mafia you will get scumread and ignored. fact. Nah not really, it seems like Artanis Nominated a team I'm fine with. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
C'mon. This is so blatantly the "too easy" trap if you're town. Get more information... The fucking disgusting thing is that some of the scummiest people have the best voting record. | ||
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