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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 04 2015 11:35 GMT
#921
Its also not me being biased the chart says were the top 3 towns more or less as no one scum reads us. I know you town read artanis so from your pov if your town submitting that team makes sense.

No one understands the logic of putting yourself in the team better then me but you also need that team to pass and its only attempt 2 of 5 so people are still very picky like me. Also if the said mission passes it would make a likely town circle of 4 people rather then 3 im not totally sure the mechanics but that seems like a good spot to be in.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 04 2015 11:38 GMT
#922
basically you would win the game for us if all 4 of us are town because we can just keep sending the same people and only scum would want to refuse.

And since you town read all 3 of us why not?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 11:52 GMT
#923
Crap... My phone deleted everything I was writing as I went back to look at filters :/ Now I'll just write from the top of my head..

So yeah, right now I think shockeyy is probably scum (especially if he didn't realize that the votes would be public like sicklucker said..). The remaining scum should be one of HTS/Kita (explained before) and one of Rels/Superbia/Artanis. Tbh Rels hasn't seemed too bad lately considering his constant activity and engagement, while Superbia and Artanis have basically continued semi-lurking for a long time now. Not really confident who there is scum, but that should be resolved as the game progresses.

So overall, not really confident in attempting an all-scum team right now. Probably best just to go with the safe plan of me, rayn and.. sicklucker? He hasn't really done much besides the weird OMGUS on me, but just with PoE, the point about shockeyy and overall his "I don't give a fuck" attitude seem more likely from town IMO. Tentatively:

##Nominate Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker
(That should work?)

I'll be online only very sporadically for a while, but please comment.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 04 2015 11:58 GMT
#924
On November 04 2015 20:52 Xatalos wrote:
Crap... My phone deleted everything I was writing as I went back to look at filters :/ Now I'll just write from the top of my head..

So yeah, right now I think shockeyy is probably scum (especially if he didn't realize that the votes would be public like sicklucker said..). The remaining scum should be one of HTS/Kita (explained before) and one of Rels/Superbia/Artanis. Tbh Rels hasn't seemed too bad lately considering his constant activity and engagement, while Superbia and Artanis have basically continued semi-lurking for a long time now. Not really confident who there is scum, but that should be resolved as the game progresses.

So overall, not really confident in attempting an all-scum team right now. Probably best just to go with the safe plan of me, rayn and.. sicklucker? He hasn't really done much besides the weird OMGUS on me, but just with PoE, the point about shockeyy and overall his "I don't give a fuck" attitude seem more likely from town IMO. Tentatively:

##Nominate Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker
(That should work?)

I'll be online only very sporadically for a while, but please comment.

I'm actually kind of okay with this.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 11:59 GMT
#925
Oh, Artanis posted... Interesting graph you made there.

About Rels, it was mostly about the weak meta-push on rayn and his possible TMI (saying pushing me was bad while null reading me?). But I'm not really sure atm... And he did kind of explain the TMI thing too, I guess...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 04 2015 11:59 GMT
#926
Sicklucker do you put any weight in the fact that shockey's the only one throwing suspicion on Rayn? It kinda makes me antsy.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 12:01 GMT
#927
You're fine with not being on the mission, Artanis?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 04 2015 12:02 GMT
#928
meh I think I have one of the strongest reasons to town read him in my life
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 04 2015 12:03 GMT
#929
Xata you didnt consider the hero play?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 04 2015 12:04 GMT
#930
On November 04 2015 21:01 Xatalos wrote:
You're fine with not being on the mission, Artanis?

I townread all three of you and we're going to have to nominate three people that aren't me in all future missions, so why not?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 12:04 GMT
#931
On November 04 2015 20:35 sicklucker wrote:
Its also not me being biased the chart says were the top 3 towns more or less as no one scum reads us. I know you town read artanis so from your pov if your town submitting that team makes sense.

No one understands the logic of putting yourself in the team better then me but you also need that team to pass and its only attempt 2 of 5 so people are still very picky like me. Also if the said mission passes it would make a likely town circle of 4 people rather then 3 im not totally sure the mechanics but that seems like a good spot to be in.


Yeah the best play now would kind of likely be just going the safe route of picking 3 town and expanding from there. With a bit of luck, we can guarantee a very strong position.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 12:05 GMT
#932
On November 04 2015 21:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 21:01 Xatalos wrote:
You're fine with not being on the mission, Artanis?

I townread all three of you and we're going to have to nominate three people that aren't me in all future missions, so why not?


I guess so :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 12:06 GMT
#933
On November 04 2015 21:03 sicklucker wrote:
Xata you didnt consider the hero play?


I considered, but I can't come to a conclusion about a likely enough 3-scum team...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 12:20 GMT
#934
Btw Superbia I couldn't find out why you voted no after all?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 04 2015 12:29 GMT
#935
Work is burying me today (if I'm lucky I'll finish around 2100 today) so quick comments for now.

1 Above team is fine by me. Would vote yes. No issues with any of Xata's explanations on his team selection.

2 I will vote down any team with Rels on it (and almost certainly will be ignoring him as mafia onwards until something to the contrary jumps at me) assuming we are sticking to the conventional approach of nailing the first mission with three town.

3 I passed/scrapped my team to buy more time.

4 Artanis I think you need to re-read my filter. Unless I'm misunderstanding, you had a fear read on me before, not the other way around. my stance on your alignment is null because your RL situation is NAI and I needed more content to re-evaluate you. Seeing as you've posted more content, I'll re-evaluate after work.

5 Regarding the comments on defensiveness my argument is that for someone normally considered a very good town player Rels is scum reading me for things that do not make me Mafia. The basis for his position is actually pretty poor IMO with the caveat he has never played the game so this could explain (if somehow he's actually town) why he's seeing some things the way he is.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 04 2015 12:31 GMT
#936
I'll do my best if I can buy any time today to pop in and comment on key posts but otherwise it's looking like 2130 or later.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 04 2015 12:33 GMT
#937
EBWOP - forgot one point, obviously voting down any team with Shockey as well.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 04 2015 12:39 GMT
#938
Scumteam for me is Rels, Shockey and third TBD.

As for the association thing, at least when I play in real life, you use deductive reasoning from the most concrete evidence, that being based on whether people upvoted or vetoed the team put up for mission and whether the mission was sabotaged.

IRL we usually query anyone that votes no on any mission team.

If a mission has been sabotaged resistance try and work backwards based on previous missions as well as if there is any recollection of whether certain people on the failed missions upvoted certain missions or not.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 04 2015 12:40 GMT
#939
Back to work for me.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 04 2015 12:40 GMT
#940
On November 04 2015 21:02 sicklucker wrote:
meh I think I have one of the strongest reasons to town read him in my life

You think shockeyy's town?
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