EPT[T][M] Resistance V - Section 31 - Page 46
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On November 04 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote: Rels, that has to be one of the worst posts I've ever read in my time on TL mafia. I normally don't make those types of statements but what you've said shows you've never played Resistance before, or you're trying to very seriously reach for a way to scumread me. What a over defensive reaction. You're contradicting yourself in the same post: On November 04 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote: If you're town, which I am, and there's a group that doesn't trust you on the team, the only way you're going to show that you are town or even get people to remotely trust you is to go scumhunting and put up three people that you've done some reliable legwork on, show you don't have an agenda as to who you are putting up. There's nothing wrong with swapping yourself out for people that are more universally townread provided you have a basis for doing so. If you cannot sell yourself for being on the team for whatever reason or if people are less sure of you as opposed to others then that is one of a few arguments to not have yourself on a team. If I want to test out a group of people (not the case here as it's the first mission) to try and PoE someone that's another reason to leave yourself off since you know what you are. On November 04 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote: My concern isn't really looking good - I've said at least twice now that if my team fails, big deal. My concern is being transparent enough to be read as town and if I can't get on teams, make sure the right people do. *yawn* On November 04 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote: Maybe you have never played Resistance, but wow, I didn't think you'd bottom out like that, but somehow you managed to prove me wrong. And now you had fucking expectations for me ? LOL On November 04 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote: Even rayn said earlier that there are situations you don't want to have yourself on the team so I'm surprised (unless I missed it) you haven't jumped on that point at the time it was made. "You scumread for that when you don't scumread THAT guy for that!" is a classic scum defense. And, sorry, I did. On November 03 2015 06:54 Rels wrote: No I didn't. Let me quote the posts you're talking about. So you're saying rayn didn't defend himself from your read, and didn't even talk to you until you quoted a post of him. But Xatalos did the defending for him. How is rayn not talking to you scum indicative ? I understand how Xata jumping to defend rayn could be scum indicative. But if you think that, what do you think of HTS also defending him in that situation ? Lastly, I don't agree with him saying town should elect themselves in a team where they are leader. I forgot a "not", but I state I don't agree with rayn's ideas that leader not including himself in his team. And just before your post: On November 04 2015 01:29 Rels wrote: Yes of course it's a dumb thing to do. I think you should have not say anything and waited to see what rayn would have done tomorrow though. Not the same subject, but similar. Your post does not explain how your actions are town motivated. Trying to follow the thread sentiment to the point of being OK not being included in the first mission has NO town motivation. | ||
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On November 04 2015 01:55 Xatalos wrote: Kita only attacked scummy players in that game then, or what? Didn't you just say that he makes sense as either alignment..? I think there's a fair scum motivation for pushing "odd" reads to manipulate the mission team selections.. Yeah he only attacked easy mislynches, and was super friendly to the town circle (TT, fidei, me ... and fucking him =X). | ||
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On November 04 2015 04:28 kitaman27 wrote: Half the Sky - Leaning town. At the start of the game, I was concerned with the fact that she essentially posted exactly what I typically hear from scum players 6-12 hours into the game when I rarely choose to participate much. Since then, she has stayed pretty active and shows evidence of reading the thread. At certain points there was a pretty easy opportunity to Yeah I agree. Whe she she could have but she . | ||
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More seriously, if you read her as town, explain to me what town motivation she could have for being so obsessed with looking good she's OK not being part of the team, even if she's leader. | ||
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In this game: - mafia don't die / flip - 1 mafia in the team is enough to make the mission fail (except on mission 4) So it's PERFECTLY OK for mafias to suspect each other. What is probably going to happen: one guy will be read as town, one guy as mafia by the thread sentiment; then when the mission fail, the guy previously read as mafia can say "I told you so!" and gain town cred. On the same vein, it's OK for mafia to hard align, since they will not flip, so no 100% association can be drawn. It seems to me it's less effective since with team results, we might have some good ideas on someone being scum; but there will be no flip. To resume, mafias has very little incentive to not bus compared to a standard game, where putting suspicion on your teammate potentially means his death; and mafias can very well hard align. Association case are a lot weaker in this setup. Now contrary to some of you, I've never played this setup before, so /discuss please. | ||
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On November 04 2015 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels do you think i am scum? Also what are the situations where you do not pick yourself into the team as a leader? No; I don't think it's ever a good idea to not pick yourself into the team. | ||
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On November 04 2015 08:00 Fidei86 wrote: Day 1 Half the Sky Nomination (Half the Sky, raynpelikoneet, kitaman27) Vote Result Half the Sky - NO Xatalos - NO Artanis[Xp] - NO raynpelikoneet - NO ShoCkeyy - YES Rels - NO sicklucker - NO kitaman27 - NO Superbia - NO MISSION IS REJECTED Day 1 Xalatos' Nomination Phase Phase will end in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 4 November 2015. LOL Shockey why did you vote yes ? Kita I'm pretty sure you said you would be voting yes ? HTS why did you vote no ? | ||
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On November 04 2015 09:10 Superbia wrote: Like I understand that pressuring me to read the thread is superobvious from either alignment, but I've had a long day and a long week ahead of me, so no. I'm not going to read shit right now. I also don't want people to hide behind walls of posts and filters. Everyone can keep it short and simple: why did you vote? I think HTS is scum. | ||
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On November 04 2015 11:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Goddamn i am drunk.... But game is easy. Hey Rels how are you?  Pretty good and you ? | ||
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Though I'm sad you didn't answer my easy question. I gave up on HTS answering to anything, but I'm counting on you! | ||
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On November 04 2015 06:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: -waves- Analysis time! Feel free to ask me questions and I'll get to it after. THE LIE On November 04 2015 06:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Actually I rescind what I had on HtS. After rereading it wasn't actually what I thought it was. On November 04 2015 06:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also Kita is town by sheer effort and all that meta business. On November 04 2015 06:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Uh, I think you're missing something here Kita. GREAT ANALYSIS BRO I HOPE YOU INDULGE US WITH SUCH WISDOM AGAIN SOON | ||
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On November 04 2015 19:15 sicklucker wrote: dotas been consuming my life and im 2 wins from 5k. Thats my excuse I will help you tonight if you don't dodge this a second time: On November 04 2015 08:53 Superbia wrote: That being said, sicklucker, what are your thoughts this game? | ||
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![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/l8XDS/c5b4b0ac75.png) Things of note after I went through the filters: -Superbia doesn't have many opinions at all. I don't like it. He was honed into one thing and one thing alone for a while and didn't really come to anything from it. -I actually came off with a pretty strong townread on sl from it, which I was surprised by. He seems very open and aggressive in his posting which I didn't get from him when he was scum. Seems to actually be trying to do stuff. -Surprised so many people scumread Rels still. He seems really active to me and pushing things. Can people explain this? -Still actually kinda leaning scum on HtS. She seems highly defensive, and in hindsight I still don't really like how she mentioned how I didn't have much time, yet still tried to push a fear read based on not doing much. Also, Rayn should be on whichever next mission. I also find it odd that shockeyy's actually suspicious of him, I'm not sure that's actually a good play as mafia to do but eh. Could be newbie scum I suppose. | ||
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