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think harder... | ||
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i don't really bother explaining anything rn, especially to people who think people who do scummy things are townie. My time is better spent watching a movie. | ||
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On November 10 2015 05:53 Rels wrote: rayn though: please consider switching Superbia to shockey unless Vivax amazes everybody. He's the only NO voter I'm doubtful about. never. I will never consider either HtS or Shockeyy town in this game. Regardless of what they say. Period. | ||
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On November 10 2015 05:57 Vivax wrote: I'm still not caught up fully but I just read this like 50 pages back. Why is rayn sending himself with 2 people he thought were mafia? Pardon any ignorance. Obviously because no read can possibly change in 50 pages and 5 irl-days. Also the fact that none of those people were on mission 1 that got failed has obviously nothing to do with my reads, how could it? | ||
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On November 10 2015 06:13 ShoCkeyy wrote: @everyone asking me why I voted yes, if you people would actually read instead of skim, then you would know. K thanks. /wave Vivax I am not sure how to say this nicely but when all 8 other players have no clue how you have ended up on the conclusions you have it's probably your problem instead of everyone else's. So instead of calling me a fucking idiot you should probably try to play resistance. If you don't know how to do that, well again... that's your problem. | ||
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On November 10 2015 06:32 Xatalos wrote: I also literally explained this very same thing already. But you're not even reading my posts anymore so whatever..... Isn't it annoying when someone does that?  Also no, i am not gonna change anything in the team. | ||
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sicklucker is scum anyways so he doesn't count. | ||
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You are wasting your time talking to me as either alignment. | ||
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- there are at least seven instances where she displays she is not reading the thread properly and just saying stuff that is completely incorrect - she is purposefully trying to antagonize me. the stuff she points out is completely wrong and i am gonna go into this tomorrow in more detail, i just don't care to post and dig stuff up rn. Even if she is delusional enough to actually believe in what she says the fact is she reads me town and she has shown she knows what saying things like that (bashing on my play -- especially in games where i actually have played well) do to me. There is absolutely no town motivation to purposefully try to antagonize your townreads. That is a fact. There is only scum motive for that --> to try to make me play not optimally. | ||
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On November 07 2015 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Last time i am going to post this: Here is why ShoCkeyy is mafia: First of all these things go together: + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2015 03:15 ShoCkeyy wrote: I'm pretty much going to reject the xata/rayn combo wombo. I'd rather see the first team mentioned - hts,super,xata go through. At least if a sabotage happens, we definitely have a good chance of finding the mafia until the next mission. Xatalos is null -> that means he has to townread the people i colored green in the post. There is no other possible way he says this. On November 03 2015 22:37 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yea sure why not, I have a better feeling about kitaman and rels than I do of you... Townreads on kitaman and Rels. On November 04 2015 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: @kita you summed it up here: "He doesn't seem comfortable giving out statements which he isn't confident about. This could either mean that truly isn't sure and wants more time until it is clear or that he doesn't want to make a statement that could backfire later on in the game." And also, I have been looking into rayn's previous games. Another thing, I don't need to be on a team, I already know I'm town, so when ever I do get on a team I'll be a 33% chance that it will pass. My current focus atm is trying to find town so when I vote for the teams, I know I'm voting confidently. Look at the bolded part in this post for further reference. On November 05 2015 02:11 ShoCkeyy wrote: You missed that I town read you and rels also. Another thing, why would I say I don't need to get on a team if I was mafia? Wouldn't I want to be on a team if I was mafia in order to sabotage?... You guys don't make any sense. I also don't need to place myself on my own team if I'm confident on who is town. Back to work. Now from these posts we can gather the following: Everyone except rayn/Xatalos/sicklucker is townreads. I don't give a fuck if the dude says "i didn't actually say that" because that is just bullshit. If he townreads five people and he is himself town that literally means he thinks the rest of the people are likely to be mafia. Now let's go to this, what i bolded earlier: Okay so in his opinion, he has found the townies. This doesn't go along with how he ACTUALLY votes for the HtS team. For two reasons: 1) He "knows" there is scum on the team. In fact he should assume there is two scum (me/Xatalos). Yet he still votes yes, while earlier on saying he will refuse that team. 2) Now if he wants to be "tricky" and yay-vote the team because there are 2 scum in it, that would be okay. But that's not why he says he yay-voted it (i could have somehow understood that explanation). To elaborate further onto this all. Shockeyy was okay with there being 1 scum on the team while saying his current focus is finding town -- that doesn't really go along with what he said earlier. A reasonable explanation for the yay-vote should have been "in fact it's better that there are 2 or even 3 scum on the team, as long as we don't send any of those people onto further mission". That's not however his explanation. Onto Xatalos' team. In Shockeyy's opinion this mission had three scum in it. Yet he refused to yay-vote it. Again, his stance is: ... now if he actually believes all of me/Xatalos/SL are mafia, he should upvote this team. Just because then we don't send any of them into further mission --> the town wins, since the town will automatically pick 4 town whoever they pick. Then when the mission passes, the same team gets picked again. Then when the mission passes who cares who is picked onto mission 4. The other possibility is he doesn't actually townread the people he says he townreads, which also doesn't make any sense. TLDR; - His approach to how he votes doesn't line up with WHY he acts in some way in some situations and in another way in other situations. - He doesn't really give any reasoning to his reads. The only reasoning he gives is the scumreads on me and Xatalos, and "he is angry", "they are in the thread at the same time", "they both suspected Rels" is not a reason to scumread anyone. - When he is called out of his reads, he says "i didn't really call you scum" -- i think everyone can see why this is literally bullshit, kitaman already pointed this out. | ||
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On November 08 2015 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: You mean this? Because i can't be 100% sure of which of you two is mafia. If you think Shockeyy/HtS/SL is the scumteam why are you not okay with the current team? Like neither of you is okay with the current team so i think the team is all town. I tried to get a nomination of Artanis/Rels/kitaman/Superbia onto a mission. Both of sicklucker and Xatalos (=one scum in there) instantly refused to vote yes on this team. Literally they were the first players to give an opinion. Now i know for a fact there is one (or two, but that doesn't even matter) scum between them. Both of them had no real reason to say no in the first place, because their reads on some of those people were not clear. But the fact is that AT LEAST ONE MAFIA instantly refused to send those four people onto a mission without "proper" reasons, which makes me think the team is all town. Now i don't - again - care, which one of them had some sort of thought process in their hear and is (probably) town, but i DO know one mafia refused a team that would be most likely yay-voted AND they could not be blamed on it. So yeah, i am pretty sure that's the name of the game here. | ||
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On November 09 2015 07:01 Rels wrote: No here is why arta is probably scum: - voting yes to a failure team while not in said failure team - his read on me is super convenient and is based on nothing strong - he nominated a team without me; rayn tells him to nominate me; he argues that he thinks I am scum, then he nominates me anyway I wanted to ask you about this: I don't think the first two reasons are really good. Or like if you think they are then based on (2) you should probably be scum for your case at the start of the game. (1) is non-alignment indicative in itself. (3) is the most important thing i wanted to ask you about: Why do you think it's scum indicative for Artanis to nominate you instead of me when i ask? Like in your world you should think you are town, right? Now you must at least entertain a possibility that i am mafia based on mission 1. So in your opinion Artanis is switching a "not sure town" to "sure town". Why does he do that as scum? There is absolutely zero reason he would do that so that he could blame you if the mission fails because both me and kitaman already read you as town. I don't understand how you come to the conclusion that's alignment indicative -- not to even mention scummy. | ||
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Let me go read his case on you. | ||
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