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kitaman27
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On November 16 2015 02:16 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:10 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:05 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O Yep. Vivax could have won the game right there and didn't. He was here at deadline, when apparently it was super clear multiple people pushed for the YES. If he's scum, he let a chance to win right there fly by him. I will consider him confirmed town unless something drastic happens. So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. Probably rayn. Just to be clear, do you still feel this was true or was it something you were pushing to "trap" HTS? No I think it's true. If Vivax is scum, he potentially lost the game yesterday. "Vivax is confirmed town because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no." "Kita could be scum because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no, but ....?" What am I missing here, especially considering you had a town read on me and a scum read on vivix prior to the voting results? Where do I say you could be scum ? I'm talking about vivax cause I was scumreading him, so realizing he has to be town changes is a change. No change on you
"So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. "
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kitaman27
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On November 16 2015 02:17 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 02:16 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:10 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:05 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O Yep. Vivax could have won the game right there and didn't. He was here at deadline, when apparently it was super clear multiple people pushed for the YES. If he's scum, he let a chance to win right there fly by him. I will consider him confirmed town unless something drastic happens. So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. Probably rayn. Just to be clear, do you still feel this was true or was it something you were pushing to "trap" HTS? No I think it's true. If Vivax is scum, he potentially lost the game yesterday. "Vivax is confirmed town because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no." "Kita could be scum because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no, but ....?" What am I missing here, especially considering you had a town read on me and a scum read on vivix prior to the voting results? Where do I say you could be scum ? I'm talking about vivax cause I was scumreading him, so realizing he has to be town changes is a change. No change on you "So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. "
Since you say vivax is confirmed town, why couldn't he be a mafia player who was unsure whether the votes would pass and wanted to play it safe?
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On November 16 2015 02:17 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 02:16 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:10 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:05 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O Yep. Vivax could have won the game right there and didn't. He was here at deadline, when apparently it was super clear multiple people pushed for the YES. If he's scum, he let a chance to win right there fly by him. I will consider him confirmed town unless something drastic happens. So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. Probably rayn. Just to be clear, do you still feel this was true or was it something you were pushing to "trap" HTS? No I think it's true. If Vivax is scum, he potentially lost the game yesterday. "Vivax is confirmed town because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no." "Kita could be scum because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no, but ....?" What am I missing here, especially considering you had a town read on me and a scum read on vivix prior to the voting results? Where do I say you could be scum ? I'm talking about vivax cause I was scumreading him, so realizing he has to be town changes is a change. No change on you "So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. "
I have no idea why I said that.
On November 16 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O Yep. Vivax could have won the game right there and didn't. He was here at deadline, when apparently it was super clear multiple people pushed for the YES. If he's scum, he let a chance to win right there fly by him. I will consider him confirmed town unless something drastic happens. So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. Probably rayn.
Oh yeah. Yes, Vivax is 99% confirmed town when you're not by that NO vote, since he was on the team and you were not. If Vivax is scum, there is a confirmed mafia a the team; if you're scum, there isn't a confirmed mafia in the team.
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On November 16 2015 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 02:17 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:16 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:10 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:05 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O Yep. Vivax could have won the game right there and didn't. He was here at deadline, when apparently it was super clear multiple people pushed for the YES. If he's scum, he let a chance to win right there fly by him. I will consider him confirmed town unless something drastic happens. So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. Probably rayn. Just to be clear, do you still feel this was true or was it something you were pushing to "trap" HTS? No I think it's true. If Vivax is scum, he potentially lost the game yesterday. "Vivax is confirmed town because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no." "Kita could be scum because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no, but ....?" What am I missing here, especially considering you had a town read on me and a scum read on vivix prior to the voting results? Where do I say you could be scum ? I'm talking about vivax cause I was scumreading him, so realizing he has to be town changes is a change. No change on you "So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. " Since you say vivax is confirmed town, why couldn't he be a mafia player who was unsure whether the votes would pass and wanted to play it safe?
Cause of this:
On November 16 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O Yep. Vivax could have won the game right there and didn't. He was here at deadline, when apparently it was super clear multiple people pushed for the YES. If he's scum, he let a chance to win right there fly by him. I will consider him confirmed town unless something drastic happens. So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. Probably rayn.
Reading EOD it seemed that the team was going to be accepted. Do you disagree ?
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If you think Vivax might be scum after this, you also think the team had a chance to not be accepted without Vivax' vote right ? And you also think his teammates probably voted YES ?
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kitaman27
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On November 16 2015 02:25 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:17 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:16 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:10 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:05 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:
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Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though.
##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O Yep. Vivax could have won the game right there and didn't. He was here at deadline, when apparently it was super clear multiple people pushed for the YES. If he's scum, he let a chance to win right there fly by him. I will consider him confirmed town unless something drastic happens. So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. Probably rayn. Just to be clear, do you still feel this was true or was it something you were pushing to "trap" HTS? No I think it's true. If Vivax is scum, he potentially lost the game yesterday. "Vivax is confirmed town because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no." "Kita could be scum because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no, but ....?" What am I missing here, especially considering you had a town read on me and a scum read on vivix prior to the voting results? Where do I say you could be scum ? I'm talking about vivax cause I was scumreading him, so realizing he has to be town changes is a change. No change on you "So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. " Since you say vivax is confirmed town, why couldn't he be a mafia player who was unsure whether the votes would pass and wanted to play it safe? Cause of this: Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O Yep. Vivax could have won the game right there and didn't. He was here at deadline, when apparently it was super clear multiple people pushed for the YES. If he's scum, he let a chance to win right there fly by him. I will consider him confirmed town unless something drastic happens. So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. Probably rayn. Reading EOD it seemed that the team was going to be accepted. Do you disagree ?
Well the real reason I'm asking is because Xata voted no, but you don't apply that reasoning to him, but I guess #3143 makes sense now that you explained it.
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kitaman27
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On November 16 2015 02:27 Rels wrote:
If you think Vivax might be scum after this, you also think the team had a chance to not be accepted without Vivax' vote right ? And you also think his teammates probably voted YES ?
No I agree that Vivax looks better after the vote.
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On November 16 2015 02:29 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 02:25 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:17 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:16 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 02:10 Rels wrote:On November 16 2015 02:05 kitaman27 wrote:On November 16 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:
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Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O Yep. Vivax could have won the game right there and didn't. He was here at deadline, when apparently it was super clear multiple people pushed for the YES. If he's scum, he let a chance to win right there fly by him. I will consider him confirmed town unless something drastic happens. So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. Probably rayn. Just to be clear, do you still feel this was true or was it something you were pushing to "trap" HTS? No I think it's true. If Vivax is scum, he potentially lost the game yesterday. "Vivax is confirmed town because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no." "Kita could be scum because he had the chance to win the game and he voted no, but ....?" What am I missing here, especially considering you had a town read on me and a scum read on vivix prior to the voting results? Where do I say you could be scum ? I'm talking about vivax cause I was scumreading him, so realizing he has to be town changes is a change. No change on you "So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. " Since you say vivax is confirmed town, why couldn't he be a mafia player who was unsure whether the votes would pass and wanted to play it safe? Cause of this: On November 16 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O Yep. Vivax could have won the game right there and didn't. He was here at deadline, when apparently it was super clear multiple people pushed for the YES. If he's scum, he let a chance to win right there fly by him. I will consider him confirmed town unless something drastic happens. So yeah, either rayn or you is scum. Probably rayn. Reading EOD it seemed that the team was going to be accepted. Do you disagree ? Well the real reason I'm asking is because Xata voted no, but you don't apply that reasoning to him, but I guess #3143 makes sense now that you explained it.
Sexy trap (=
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Alright going to grab something to eat. See you later (=
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kitaman27
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On November 16 2015 02:08 Rels wrote:
True. But what do you think of these ?
I definitely agree that HTS has made her mind up on certain players alignments that could suggest she knows they are town. This could go back as far as the SL post (spoilered below) that showed almost zero doubt. It was such a strong read that I asked Artanis to comment on her read to see if he saw the same thing (he didn't find any problems at the time). I'd still like that summary on why she feels you are mafia if she is willing.
The biggest problem I'd have is that rayn + HTS really seems unlikely because of the reasoning I mentioned. She even nominated him day one without any hesitation (it was super/xata/myself that she was going back and forth on).
If it's not rayn + HTS then that means it would have to be HTS + SL/xata + vivax/rels...which becomes problematic based on the double NO vote on mission three from you two.
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Kita who was the mafia from mission 2? I didn't see you talk about that. I'm also surprised you think I would vote no as spy there when I already wouldn't have had any reason not to based on my previous reasoning.
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On November 15 2015 21:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I might need a replacement. My time atmp is all used up :/
why would you? all you need is vote you dont have to post anything. this would ruin the game further
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On November 15 2015 23:07 Vivax wrote:Maybe I'm just being stupidly paranoid again, cause this argument is still golden imo: Show nested quote +Noone who was in the failed second mission voted yes, so if SL is scum as you say, there's 1 spy who decided not to win the game by voting yes cause ... ?????? Except that Fidei said not all votes were sent in, so something might be fishy about this. Tbh I think it would be fair to know who defaulted to "no", the voting outcome should be public, but it might be game breaking, idk.
i mean it was probably just coag why did he replace in. shockey dont replace out we dont need another coag and 5 mafia
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On November 15 2015 23:27 Vivax wrote:Lemme think: Shockey and HTS voted yes to every failed mission except shockey on the first. They also voted yes to shockeys nom. But the spy who sabotaged mission two voted no. My tinfoil is on Coag. Day 1 Xatalos Nomination (Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker) Vote Result Half the Sky - YES raynpelikoneet - YESMISSION IS APPROVED Day 2 raynpelikoneet's Nomination (raynpelikoneet, kitaman, Rels, Vivax) Vote Result Half the Sky - YESraynpelikoneet - YESMISSION IS APPROVED Day 3 ShoCkeyy's Nomination (Shockey, Vivax, Half the Sky, sicklucker) Vote Result Half the Sky - YESCoagulation - NO <- probably doesn't even know how the game works. MISSION IS REJECTED In summary, here's an accurate depiction of HTS and rayn this game in regards to failed teams:
except ryan was mod killed for yelling at hts. even if ryand not town hes not with hts.... Like that would be the stupidest thing ever
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now that i think about it theres no scum qt for ryan to channel his hts anger at. But its still a stupid mod kill wut?
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You know what i submitted a no vote vivax but I feel like were gonna throw a good win percentage away here for some unlikely thoerys. shockeys threatening to get replaced and we could lose a town vote (again) I might just change my vote to yes here.
Hts is an unlikely scum. She was pushing people in thread to vote yes but still her team mats did not vote yes. If hts is mafia she should have won already anyway so lets just go with this im over it. Or is this a wifmo attempt? fear me
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Sure feels scummy in the past few pages over here.
Sicklucker, just vote yes. Scum is Rels/Kita/Xata and maaaybe it was Rayn but probably not. None of those are on the mission here.
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I really doubt it's clean. There's HTS in there and even in the off-chance HTS was town, one of Artanis/shockeyy would likely be scum in that case.
Better to reject it than to gamble for no real reason.
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On November 16 2015 04:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Sure feels scummy in the past few pages over here.
Sicklucker, just vote yes. Scum is Rels/Kita/Xata and maaaybe it was Rayn but probably not. None of those are on the mission here.
Do you really think scum kita would feel the need to push me out of the first team by HTS if I was scum with him...?
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On November 16 2015 04:46 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 04:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Sure feels scummy in the past few pages over here.
Sicklucker, just vote yes. Scum is Rels/Kita/Xata and maaaybe it was Rayn but probably not. None of those are on the mission here. Do you really think scum kita would feel the need to push me out of the first team by HTS if I was scum with him...?
Given the first team will rarely actually get the go ahead since the game only just started and HtS was not considered trustworthy, sure, I don't see much of an issue with it.
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