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sicklucker
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Vivax
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On November 16 2015 05:39 sicklucker wrote: likei f hts is scum i want her to win anyway. shes doing things that a scum should not need to do Like saying yes to every failteam and peasant? That sounds like something scum needs to do. Maybe the solution to this game is just to downvote whenever she upvotes and the other way around. Honestly I want to hear more from kita. His voting record is pretty cool besides mission 2 and I don't discard any option when we're close to the endgame. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 16 2015 05:38 sicklucker wrote: kita DO YOU HAVE ANY READS IN THIS GAME? Yeah? Town: Kita HTS Rels Shockeyy (?) SL (based on Xata being in the below group mostly.) Mafia: Artanis Xatalos I'm still trying to think through Vivax and rayn more. | ||
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Wanna know why? Cause it's impossible that any scum on the right team voted no to a scum to the left team, that would be idiotic. That takes back what I said about 1 scum bussing being dangerous. In fact we KNOW that one team has to be spy and the other town. Unless Coag is spy and forgot to vote. Why do you think I was tinfoiling on rayn? Cause Coag isn't playing this game. | ||
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On November 16 2015 05:47 Vivax wrote: The 2 camps I mentioned are all we need to work with for now. Wanna know why? Cause it's impossible that any scum on the right team voted no to a scum to the left team, that would be idiotic. That takes back what I said about 1 scum bussing being dangerous. In fact we KNOW that one team has to be spy and the other town. Unless Coag is spy and forgot to vote. Why do you think I was tinfoiling on rayn? Cause Coag isn't playing this game. if you think the sides are alligned then xatas side is always the scum anyway. but i think arts been potentially trying to town side and its not worth the risk | ||
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On November 16 2015 05:47 sicklucker wrote: combos of teams i see are like xata/rels/art xata/rels/kita thats pretty much it acualy im down to those two But then Artanis would have wanted the left team to pass without any spy being in it. So you will have to stick to Xata/rels/kita, no reason Artanis would want your all town team to pass but he did. | ||
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On November 16 2015 05:43 kitaman27 wrote: Yeah? Town: Kita HTS Rels Shockeyy (?) SL (based on Xata being in the below group mostly.) Mafia: Artanis Xatalos I'm still trying to think through Vivax and rayn more. Same here, why should Artanis in your opinion vote yes to Shockey's team who in your scenario is all town anyway? If I'm mafia why should I vote no? What's there to think about? | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 14 2015 05:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I said that the way he was pushing it, he seemed to be trying to bury Rels. That's how I read it. I read it as you trying to bury shockeyy. On November 14 2015 05:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I've explained this before. I thought all three players were likely town. If I was correct in that, I got to nominate myself the day after with the group and win the game. I took a risk in presuming all three were town and it didn't pay off, but the logic is certainly there. You're simply framing it in a mafia mindset when the townie mindset is obvious. That's such an unnecessary risk though. You could have insisted on being in the group of three, if it passes then you find a forth to bring along. If it fails, then you have a mafia within a pool of two players. By excluding yourself, you double the chance that the first mission fails and have a larger pool to analyze. Furthermore, even if you liked that group of three, the obvious town response is to fail and then send it through again once you have the vote information. On November 14 2015 05:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The chart was a single moment in time. Sicklucker had been open and aggressive. I think Xata is scum, but if he includes me then I'll pass the mission is not an "open" mindset like you explain. You never questioned SL's weird swap and are way too content to have him included over yourself. On November 14 2015 05:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I didn't have time on Day 1. Monday through Wednesday are very busy days for me. I can keep repeating that if you want. Furthermore, no team that I wanted that I could suggest would go through. By sending a mission that would not pass through, there'd be more days to gather information and I'd have more time to actually get more accurate reads as well as make myself townread and get on a mission I favour. If information is the goal here and you want more time, then why didn't that reasoning apply to mission 1 like I say? On November 14 2015 05:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So now I'm being scumread for voting no on a mission with scum on it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you came into this analysis with a made up mind already. I'm sorry that I didn't have the time to push hard on not wanting the mission to go through. That doesn't actually make me scum. Strawman. I'm not saying that you are being scumread for voting no, I'm saying that you are being scum read for not wanting a team to go through, yet doing nothing about it. Even if you don't have the time to push hard, it only takes 30 seconds to share you objection. You take the credit for the voting record yet are content with it going through. On November 14 2015 05:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Outcome does not matter, it's the mindset going into it that matters. I really don't believe any scum player, especially Superbia would come up with the idea of "let's attack Xatalos for some awkward wording he made and keep hammering on about it for no reason, I'm sure that's going to get me so much towncred!" I really don't. Scumreading eachother is also not as big a deal in Resistance as it is in real mafia, since it only matters to get on a mission yourself. Well I'm not arguing that Xata/Super are buddies, so again you are misrepresenting my argument. I'm saying the way you apply their interaction to somehow conclude that I'm mafia is the scummy part. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 16 2015 05:53 Vivax wrote: Same here, why should Artanis in your opinion vote yes to Shockey's team who in your scenario is all town anyway? If I'm mafia why should I vote no? What's there to think about? Well arta town reads each of the nominated players so voting no and then being on the wrong side of a passed mission could lose the game. Similarly, he would have a lot of explaining to do if the mission failed. As for you, if you weren't positive there were enough votes to pass, then you could wifom yourself with the "if I'm scum I could have won last night" argument. That being said, I think you had a valid reason to justify a yes vote so I'm willing to consider that you could be town, which would require rethinking rayn or rels. | ||
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Fidei86
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Rels' Team (Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey) Vote Result Half the Sky - YES Xatalos - NO Artanis[Xp] - YES Coagulation - NO ShoCkeyy - YES Rels - NO sicklucker - NO kitaman27 - NO Vivax - NO MISSION IS REJECTED Day 3 sicklucker's Nomination Phase Phase will end in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 16 November 2015. | ||
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