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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 15 2015 19:51 GMT
#3161
So who's your current scumteam Xata? SL/HtS/Rels or?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 15 2015 19:52 GMT
#3162
Pretty much. Well, I'm not as certain on rayn/Coag as I was, but assuming rayn is town, that should be the team (considering possible combinations).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 15 2015 19:55 GMT
#3163
^^^^^^^^^^

That and the connection between me and rayn is beyond absurd based on my recent and out-of-current-game experience with him.

Like I said before, sicklucker, I express the above team is clean for reasons that have nothing to do with Rels nominating the team, but you mentioned it was on you to figure out Artanis. Thing is, from 3110 Artanis has figured you out (and hilariously Rels is trying to frame that from a mafia perspective) the question is now do you trust him over Rels? That was pretty much your intention for saying what you said before.

Even Rels thinks it's mafia motivated for me to discuss it as a WIFOM attempt when it's clearly not so and he's scumreading Artanis.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 15 2015 19:56 GMT
#3164
On November 16 2015 04:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 04:46 Xatalos wrote:
On November 16 2015 04:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Sure feels scummy in the past few pages over here.

Sicklucker, just vote yes. Scum is Rels/Kita/Xata and maaaybe it was Rayn but probably not. None of those are on the mission here.


Do you really think scum kita would feel the need to push me out of the first team by HTS if I was scum with him...?

Given the first team will rarely actually get the go ahead since the game only just started and HtS was not considered trustworthy, sure, I don't see much of an issue with it.


Meh... I still don't see that as a likely interaction if we really were scum. In any case, kita has voted down every failed team... That's pretty townie in itself. I'd like if you could look at HTS more critically from here. I'm not even really sure how you came to the Xata+kita team.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 15 2015 19:56 GMT
#3165
Bah those arrows were in reference to post #3156, you all ninjaed me.

Also Rels, the whole "not one ounce of tinfoil that SL is scum" makes zero sense. Funny you say that as it was pointed out that prior to mission 1 if the team were to fail, my first look would be AT sicklucker. When the team actually DID fail, I re-evaluated everyone. What is the mafia motivation to look at rayn and question him when I did after mission 1? I mean, Xatalos made SUCH a big deal on that one.

At points in the game, I was the only one townreading sicklucker and I was trying to get people to understand his mindset why he might not be scum. A lot of the incoherence he's displayed is of both alignments.

Keep stretching the truth, I can only hope people will see right through you.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21951 Posts
November 15 2015 19:57 GMT
#3166
On November 16 2015 04:56 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 04:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 16 2015 04:46 Xatalos wrote:
On November 16 2015 04:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Sure feels scummy in the past few pages over here.

Sicklucker, just vote yes. Scum is Rels/Kita/Xata and maaaybe it was Rayn but probably not. None of those are on the mission here.


Do you really think scum kita would feel the need to push me out of the first team by HTS if I was scum with him...?

Given the first team will rarely actually get the go ahead since the game only just started and HtS was not considered trustworthy, sure, I don't see much of an issue with it.


Meh... I still don't see that as a likely interaction if we really were scum. In any case, kita has voted down every failed team... That's pretty townie in itself. I'd like if you could look at HTS more critically from here. I'm not even really sure how you came to the Xata+kita team.


Ok that's just not true. He voted yes to mission #2
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 15 2015 19:57 GMT
#3167
The team are Xatalos/Kita/Rels. Honestly they are just trying to mindfuck whoever to victory.

The way Rels is going on about is borderline pathetic. Somewhere Holyflare is laughing on his retirement chair.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 15 2015 19:58 GMT
#3168
Well I'm gonna be playing Heroes with Rayn and Rsoul now, you folks have fun ^^
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 15 2015 19:59 GMT
#3169
Wait, he really did.... Yeah. Somehow I confused the second mission with the first mission.

Then again, almost everyone voted YES there >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 15 2015 20:01 GMT
#3170
On November 16 2015 04:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Sure feels scummy in the past few pages over here.

Sicklucker, just vote yes. Scum is Rels/Kita/Xata and maaaybe it was Rayn but probably not. None of those are on the mission here.


I am honestly voting yes now because I'm at the point I really don't care anymore. They aren't idiots, all the scummers will vote it down. Rels is trying to work off his alternative theory.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21951 Posts
November 15 2015 20:08 GMT
#3171
On November 15 2015 05:27 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:
On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.

Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation

I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.

I have nothing to hide.

Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though.
##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey


hum this is terrible why not me? im still worried about worlds with hts and artanis especially and I didnt think I would have to make a decision so soon. Cant you just do me and we have 3 more days to decide? im going ot be on the mission 4/5 if this passes anyway so you may as well put me in now...


On November 16 2015 04:30 sicklucker wrote:
You know what i submitted a no vote vivax but I feel like were gonna throw a good win percentage away here for some unlikely thoerys. shockeys threatening to get replaced and we could lose a town vote (again) I might just change my vote to yes here.

Hts is an unlikely scum. She was pushing people in thread to vote yes but still her team mats did not vote yes. If hts is mafia she should have won already anyway so lets just go with this im over it. Or is this a wifmo attempt? fear me


Can you walk me through in one post how you changed this opinion within the cycle?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 15 2015 20:28 GMT
#3172
shockey is asking for a replacement... like im not putting in the effort explaining the game to both coag and his replacement when I can just go with the good odds.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21951 Posts
November 15 2015 20:29 GMT
#3173
This game has largely come down to a

HTS/Shockey/SL/Artanis camp vs the Kita/Rels/Xata/Coag(?) camp, according to voting and behaviour.

The problem is that if only 1 scum is bussing, then sending 1 camp always fails the mission (if you pick the right one).
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 15 2015 20:31 GMT
#3174
if artanis is scum we flame hts postgame. if there together we flame xata I TRIED let go with it. If xatas town hes blowing this by still scum reading me ill never be able to work with him and find an artanis replacement that shockey agrees with
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 15 2015 20:32 GMT
#3175
Vivax like kita/rels/xata all scum read me even tho theres so many reasons im town. I can never work with them theres no logical reason for me to not gamble on this side
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 15 2015 20:36 GMT
#3176
i think the only change im willing to make is artanis for coag. But shockey wont do that and we wont have votes I dont think.

Hts do you not think you could be pocketed here? like your so sure...
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
November 15 2015 20:38 GMT
#3177
On November 16 2015 05:29 Vivax wrote:
This game has largely come down to a

HTS/Shockey/SL/Artanis camp vs the Kita/Rels/Xata/Coag(?) camp, according to voting and behaviour.

The problem is that if only 1 scum is bussing, then sending 1 camp always fails the mission (if you pick the right one).


I definitely wouldn't consider Xata in my "camp", even if he wants to buddy me. At the same time, I've already stated that I'd be willing to include a couple individuals from the first group.

You asked me who I think failed the second mission and I'm not ignoring you, but I'm not really sure. Still trying to figure that part out.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 15 2015 20:38 GMT
#3178
if ones bussing vivax its always artanis. Hts is fighting to put him on the mission ( makes on sense if there both scum) and she was on the mission that did not pass suggesting shes town. That and i have many reasons to town read her
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 15 2015 20:38 GMT
#3179
kita DO YOU HAVE ANY READS IN THIS GAME?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21951 Posts
November 15 2015 20:39 GMT
#3180
Everyone on left camp:

You all voted yes.
Artanis voted yes without being on it.
So he wanted it to pass with you/HTS/Shockey/Vivax being on it, and without himself being on it.

On November 16 2015 05:31 sicklucker wrote:
if artanis is scum we flame hts postgame. if there together we flame xata I TRIED let go with it. If xatas town hes blowing this by still scum reading me ill never be able to work with him and find an artanis replacement that shockey agrees with


So if you think that Artanis can be scum you also have to believe that Shockey's team was "dirty".
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