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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 13 2015 14:27 GMT
#2801
This is a pretty interesting call on Kita by rayn.

On November 06 2015 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well he's gonna vote yes since we are all mafia, then we just don't send any of us into next missions and his town wins.
EZPZ. Unless he wants to claim scum ofc..


On November 06 2015 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 00:35 Xatalos wrote:
I guess I can see the logic if he thinks we're all scum on the mission?

He said if one of me / you were on mission 1 it's okay, because the other two are town, so he would know for sure who is scum. But if me AND you are on the mission, he wouldn't know for sure which one of us is scum. But then he also townreads everyone except for me/you/sl, so why would he need to "figure out which one of rayn/xatalosis mafia" in the first place?


On November 06 2015 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and this points to kitaman being scum.

because i think the real reason was not to "not have both of xatalos/rayn on a mission" but instead have mafia on a mission -> kitaman.


This (assuming rayn didn't misread) actually further lends support to the Xatalos/(whoever)/Kita scum team. Or in the infintessimally small chance that I'm wrong on Xatalos, that Kita is scum without using any meta.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 13 2015 14:28 GMT
#2802
Going to do work now but some interesting reference points there.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 14:31 GMT
#2803
On November 13 2015 23:27 Half the Sky wrote:
This is a pretty interesting call on Kita by rayn.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well he's gonna vote yes since we are all mafia, then we just don't send any of us into next missions and his town wins.
EZPZ. Unless he wants to claim scum ofc..


Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 06 2015 00:35 Xatalos wrote:
I guess I can see the logic if he thinks we're all scum on the mission?

He said if one of me / you were on mission 1 it's okay, because the other two are town, so he would know for sure who is scum. But if me AND you are on the mission, he wouldn't know for sure which one of us is scum. But then he also townreads everyone except for me/you/sl, so why would he need to "figure out which one of rayn/xatalosis mafia" in the first place?


Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and this points to kitaman being scum.

because i think the real reason was not to "not have both of xatalos/rayn on a mission" but instead have mafia on a mission -> kitaman.


This (assuming rayn didn't misread) actually further lends support to the Xatalos/(whoever)/Kita scum team. Or in the infintessimally small chance that I'm wrong on Xatalos, that Kita is scum without using any meta.

rayn is talking about Shockey in those quotes, so you're either considering:
- shockey is scum which point to kita being scum according to rayn
- shockey is town and that doesn't point to anything
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 14:32 GMT
#2804
Then this team is not possible since two scums in it voted NO on the first mission.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 13 2015 14:33 GMT
#2805
On November 13 2015 23:26 sicklucker wrote:
hts you dont have to convince anyone of my alignment. We either lose here or im confirmed town anyway


Eh part of this problem is that townies are scumreading other townies. I still remember NSM6. Town lost because everyone was tunnelling the wrong people for the wrong reasons. I think the same thing is sort of happening here, and people are missing important things.

I was trying to look into Kitaman as well to be honest. Because the way it's looking right now, I might have been wrong here - Vivax is looking more town and Kita not so much.

That last thing by rayn shows something potentially fabricated by Kita and even if I cannot stand the former's way of working with people, his nitpickiness does ferret out key things like this.

Which means we could likely have a team on board - even if it is one that Shockey didn't want - that will successfully complete this upcoming mission.

Shockey/me/Vivax/sicklucker

Right now? I would bet on this.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 14:34 GMT
#2806
On November 13 2015 23:33 Half the Sky wrote:
That last thing by rayn shows something potentially fabricated by Kita and even if I cannot stand the former's way of working with people, his nitpickiness does ferret out key things like this.

I'm pretty sure rayn is talking about shockey in those quotes above, am I mistaken ?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 13 2015 14:35 GMT
#2807
On November 13 2015 22:41 Rels wrote:
HTS where you have goooone
Why are you never answering meeeee
It looks like you are avoiding meeeee
Do you really think I was forced to vote NO to the first voooooote
Can you confiiiiiirm


if your scum your not going ot vote yes on the very first vote unless the three submitted revolved around your townreads. Its day one no need for scum to vote for a win they need 3 wins not 1.

[image loading]

Your rayn and xata townreads check out but I remember you putting alot of crap on me.

Actually its kind of suspicious you didnt vote yes day 1 considering you had 2 town reads and null. im pretty sure im just leveling myself so not gonna give it much value

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 13 2015 14:37 GMT
#2808
Ya I misread the artanis line. So ya you cant vote yes day 1 without claiming scum basically. so your vote does not really prove anything
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 13 2015 14:37 GMT
#2809
er disregard my last post completely
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 14:39 GMT
#2810
On November 13 2015 23:37 sicklucker wrote:
Ya I misread the artanis line. So ya you cant vote yes day 1 without claiming scum basically. so your vote does not really prove anything

Why ? According to this I could.
Actually the reason I didn't vote on mission 1 was that I thought rayn was scum BTW.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 13 2015 14:39 GMT
#2811
On November 13 2015 23:33 Half the Sky wrote:
I was trying to look into Kitaman as well to be honest. Because the way it's looking right now, I might have been wrong here - Vivax is looking more town and Kita not so much.

That last thing by rayn shows something potentially fabricated by Kita and even if I cannot stand the former's way of working with people, his nitpickiness does ferret out key things like this.


You're really starting to become difficult to deal with, which is problematic considering that I want to town read you. Please lets not go through another Aperature

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 14:40 GMT
#2812
On November 13 2015 23:37 sicklucker wrote:
er disregard my last post completely

Man you really are looking for anything to scumread me before realizing it's dumb. Nice try though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 14:40 GMT
#2813
HTS:
On November 13 2015 23:34 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 23:33 Half the Sky wrote:
That last thing by rayn shows something potentially fabricated by Kita and even if I cannot stand the former's way of working with people, his nitpickiness does ferret out key things like this.

I'm pretty sure rayn is talking about shockey in those quotes above, am I mistaken ?

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 13 2015 14:40 GMT
#2814
On November 13 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 23:37 sicklucker wrote:
Ya I misread the artanis line. So ya you cant vote yes day 1 without claiming scum basically. so your vote does not really prove anything

Why ? According to this I could.
Actually the reason I didn't vote on mission 1 was that I thought rayn was scum BTW.


well your reads are not really the point. scum will never go off there reads with the day one vote its too early. they may try to mold them but most people dont think that far ahead
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 13 2015 14:41 GMT
#2815
On November 13 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 23:37 sicklucker wrote:
er disregard my last post completely

Man you really are looking for anything to scumread me before realizing it's dumb. Nice try though.


your so fucking dumb
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 14:41 GMT
#2816
On November 13 2015 23:40 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:
On November 13 2015 23:37 sicklucker wrote:
Ya I misread the artanis line. So ya you cant vote yes day 1 without claiming scum basically. so your vote does not really prove anything

Why ? According to this I could.
Actually the reason I didn't vote on mission 1 was that I thought rayn was scum BTW.


well your reads are not really the point. scum will never go off there reads with the day one vote its too early. they may try to mold them but most people dont think that far ahead

Then why did you think I "cant vote yes day 1 without claiming scum basically" ?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 13 2015 14:42 GMT
#2817
Because voting yes day 1 did not line up with your reads...
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 14:42 GMT
#2818
BTW SL:
On November 13 2015 02:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 01:54 sicklucker wrote:
On November 13 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:
On November 13 2015 01:08 sicklucker wrote:
On November 13 2015 01:00 Half the Sky wrote:
sicklucker, you were mafia in Guardians with rayn, send him a link to the mafia qt for that game.

Now I have to go, and fight the customs battle at JFK. Christ I hate this airport.


i dont see how that relevant. like even if rayns not meta confirmed we have to pick one at some point to have a solid majority so its a good risk to take. theres 3 groups currenly with one mafia confirmed basicly. They are

me rayn,xata
art , hts , rels *
vivax , kita ,rels *

* assumes ryans town

Where does the second group comes from ?


arts weird logic idk. now that i think about it that makes little sense ask him

I don't get it. Why would you write something that you take from a potential scumread of yours (and if I got it, your stronger potential third scum) if you don't understand it / don't believe it's true ?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 13 2015 14:43 GMT
#2819
Rels - re #2813 I am reading backwards - yeah I stand corrected. I'm jumping to post #1019 in that sequence as to where rayn is having a problem with Kita. So scratch #2801 entirely.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 13 2015 14:44 GMT
#2820
im not really that interested in proving my alignment right now. see ya later
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