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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 13 2015 16:26 GMT
#2841
On November 14 2015 01:14 Vivax wrote:
You call himself aligning against Xata an "opportunity". Why? What would be the benefit in that situation?


On November 14 2015 01:14 Vivax wrote:
took away his chances of pushing suspicion on him in case of mission fail.


Don't you answer your own question in your response? Yet instead you're taunting me with stuff like "you can do better than this"?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
November 13 2015 16:29 GMT
#2842
I don't think I'll be pursuing further conversation with you, kita. I'm dead set on you being mafia, you are on me. I'm perfectly fine with just no-voting any future team with you in it, and so should you, this game isn't about lynching.

Just hope to catch you in another game where you're actually town.

HTS/me/Artanis/Coag ftw.
Swap me for Shockey, or Xata if needed.

Btw I hardly see people considering putting Arta on a team, which I really don't get. 1. He looks townish, 2. He's good at resistance.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 13 2015 16:31 GMT
#2843
On November 14 2015 01:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 01:17 Vivax wrote:
On November 14 2015 01:06 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 14 2015 01:03 Vivax wrote:
While thinking to myself that kita is probably 100 % scum for the 100th time, I also realized that SL went super aggressive on me with his shitty push about me voting yes to the team, but he didn't bitch about kita doing the same thing while scumreading my slot, yet they both keep bringing up how they can't be in a team together.

GET DUNKED


I've responded to you about Rels like you asked and posted about Artanis. What do you have to say about those?

Also, based on this post does that confirm that you've read my filter regarding my interaction with SL and still hold the conclusion that we are buddies?


I didn't read your interaction much yet, but I noticed the lack of interaction between you and him when you voted yes on a team I was on, yet he should have been much more worked up about you instead of me if you were having a beef with each other earlier in the game already.


Well when do you plan to? It would take probably five minutes to do a control + F for whenever I mention his name and then come back to the thread with a conclusion. Considering that is the scum team that you seem to be set in stone with, then it really should be a priority over anything else.


^ Dodged.

You don't need to talk to me about this even. Talk with your town reads why this is viable (you can't).
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 16:33 GMT
#2844
On November 14 2015 01:29 Vivax wrote:
I don't think I'll be pursuing further conversation with you, kita. I'm dead set on you being mafia, you are on me. I'm perfectly fine with just no-voting any future team with you in it, and so should you, this game isn't about lynching.

Just hope to catch you in another game where you're actually town.

HTS/me/Artanis/Coag ftw.
Swap me for Shockey, or Xata if needed.

Btw I hardly see people considering putting Arta on a team, which I really don't get. 1. He looks townish, 2. He's good at resistance.

Have you read the first day carefully ? If yes, how likely do you think two scums voted NO to the first team ? What % would you give to that theory ?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
November 13 2015 16:33 GMT
#2845
On November 14 2015 01:26 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 01:14 Vivax wrote:
You call himself aligning against Xata an "opportunity". Why? What would be the benefit in that situation?


Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 01:14 Vivax wrote:
took away his chances of pushing suspicion on him in case of mission fail.


Don't you answer your own question in your response? Yet instead you're taunting me with stuff like "you can do better than this"?


Yes there's no benefit to be had, he could as well just have pushed Xata as town cause he had to.
Yet you say there was some sort of attainable benefit in that situation.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
November 13 2015 16:36 GMT
#2846
On November 14 2015 01:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 01:29 Vivax wrote:
I don't think I'll be pursuing further conversation with you, kita. I'm dead set on you being mafia, you are on me. I'm perfectly fine with just no-voting any future team with you in it, and so should you, this game isn't about lynching.

Just hope to catch you in another game where you're actually town.

HTS/me/Artanis/Coag ftw.
Swap me for Shockey, or Xata if needed.

Btw I hardly see people considering putting Arta on a team, which I really don't get. 1. He looks townish, 2. He's good at resistance.

Have you read the first day carefully ? If yes, how likely do you think two scums voted NO to the first team ? What % would you give to that theory ?


100%
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 16:38 GMT
#2847
On November 14 2015 01:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 01:33 Rels wrote:
On November 14 2015 01:29 Vivax wrote:
I don't think I'll be pursuing further conversation with you, kita. I'm dead set on you being mafia, you are on me. I'm perfectly fine with just no-voting any future team with you in it, and so should you, this game isn't about lynching.

Just hope to catch you in another game where you're actually town.

HTS/me/Artanis/Coag ftw.
Swap me for Shockey, or Xata if needed.

Btw I hardly see people considering putting Arta on a team, which I really don't get. 1. He looks townish, 2. He's good at resistance.

Have you read the first day carefully ? If yes, how likely do you think two scums voted NO to the first team ? What % would you give to that theory ?


100%

Monsieur, I don't dare asking you for but the smallest bit of explanation ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 16:38 GMT
#2848
I'm pretty sure there is a "for" missing somewhere
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
November 13 2015 16:45 GMT
#2849
Oh you mean the mission issued by Xata.
We know for a fact that at least one spy voted no. I can't say more than that with my current knowledge. I know you somehow want me to accept you being on a team but that's not gonna happen by trying to let me spew some percentages.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
November 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#2850
If you're town you'll have to blame rayn for putting kita on a team after he noticed that he was off.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 16:48 GMT
#2851
On November 14 2015 01:45 Vivax wrote:
Oh you mean the mission issued by Xata.
We know for a fact that at least one spy voted no. I can't say more than that with my current knowledge. I know you somehow want me to accept you being on a team but that's not gonna happen by trying to let me spew some percentages.

I don't dare to ask but for the smallest opinion after you read it ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 16:53 GMT
#2852
Leaving work. Vivax please at least state if you think it's more likely there is one or two scums voting NO on the first team after you read that part. Or zero or three for that matter (hint: one of these answers is not possible).
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
November 13 2015 16:54 GMT
#2853
We have time cause this team won't be passing tonight, let me go through this SL stuff kita wants me to read then I'll do one thing at a time before I get into unproductive spamming mode.

I really enjoyed being able to easily find things I said in my filter but that will only work if I stop spamming.

Your servile tone pleases me, Rels. You might make a good butler one day.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 16:57 GMT
#2854
On November 14 2015 01:54 Vivax wrote:
We have time cause this team won't be passing tonight, let me go through this SL stuff kita wants me to read then I'll do one thing at a time before I get into unproductive spamming mode.

I really enjoyed being able to easily find things I said in my filter but that will only work if I stop spamming.

Your servile tone pleases me, Rels. You might make a good butler one day.

You want to know my secret ? I say "I don't dare" WHILE DARING AT THE SAME TIME
Will be waiting for your vote analysis with much anticipation. Don't dodge me bro
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 16:58 GMT
#2855
SHOCKEY can you say what was the team you wanted to nominate pretty please ? Or are you purposefully waiting for the vote to be over before stating it ?
COAG please do stuff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 13 2015 16:59 GMT
#2856
And now I leave. See you later folks (=
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 13 2015 18:25 GMT
#2857
On November 14 2015 01:29 Vivax wrote:
I don't think I'll be pursuing further conversation with you, kita. I'm dead set on you being mafia, you are on me. I'm perfectly fine with just no-voting any future team with you in it, and so should you, this game isn't about lynching.

Just hope to catch you in another game where you're actually town.

HTS/me/Artanis/Coag ftw.
Swap me for Shockey, or Xata if needed.

Btw I hardly see people considering putting Arta on a team, which I really don't get. 1. He looks townish, 2. He's good at resistance.


I really think you are town here, you're wrong on sicklucker v Xatalos - but from what I can tell how you think SL is mafia - but not because your thinking comes from a mafia mindset.

With the associative read from Rels pointing right at Kita it makes me more confident of this. (And then I saw Kita's latest proposed scumteam and I just facepalmed.)

#2 honestly is NAI, but Artanis' posting really doesn't appear to be coming from a mafia mindset.

If people are afraid of sicklucker or cannot decide sicklucker v Xatalos, then pick any 4 of the 5 we're most sure on:

Vivax/Artanis/Coag/Shockey/myself

If anyone's afraid of me, just leave me off. I can trust the other four.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 13 2015 18:29 GMT
#2858
I'm upvoting this team. I am confident on my townread on sicklucker. People afraid of sicklucker should realise the whole contradicting thing is something he does as both alignments, but the manner - if you can trace it - of going back and forth between Rels/Artanis indicates he's not on an agenda. But if everyone's afraid of him, I have the above combination that I feel will be more palatable to town if that's what it takes.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 13 2015 18:33 GMT
#2859
How sure are you that vivax is town
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 13 2015 18:46 GMT
#2860
6000!


And for my 6000th post, it is aimed at Vivax. You stated how Xatalos you thought his mindset was town.

Explain the town mindset from this set of quotes (for full context pages 111-115, when the mission is deemed passed)

On November 10 2015 21:54 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 08:20 sicklucker wrote:
On November 10 2015 06:23 Xatalos wrote:
Is this the final team rayn? Could you replace kita/Rels with myself and perhaps Artanis?

It's just saddening that even though that would improve the chances of success, it would also decrease the chances of the team being approved :/

And then there's shockeyy/Rels/SL's teams coming up.......... I doubt shockeyy/Rels's teams would either get approved or succeed, and SL would just automatically make a failing team... Sigh.


holy shit i might vote yes just to see if the scum team is like xata art +1


Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 08:08 Half the Sky wrote:
So looks like we need to see more from Vivax and then will need to tinfoil Kita, but at the moment (operative words being at the moment) I would upvote this team.

Kita, any followup, shout (#2183). I warn you as I did Rels, work is going to bury me tomorrow (0800-2200 again FML), but I'll do my best.

Good night.


I was considering voting YES (since the next leaders wouldn't most likely suggest anything better than this), but these endorsements really give me the creeps....... Both SL/HTS being excited about the team..... Geh :/ Kind of feels like there could be scum included after all.

Thoughts, rayn?


On November 10 2015 22:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't care. I trust on my reads more on to what mafia might wifom.


You seemed very confident in the earlier me/SL argument though? You mean they could be trying to reproduce that argument now....? I guess it's possible. Still concerns me quite a bit....


On November 10 2015 22:02 Xatalos wrote:
Then again, otherwise this will probably go to SL's decision -> fail..... It's like picking between ebola and AIDS....


On November 10 2015 22:33 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 10 2015 22:02 Xatalos wrote:
Then again, otherwise this will probably go to SL's decision -> fail..... It's like picking between ebola and AIDS....

I don't know why you would be "picking between ebola and AIDS" if you can't even make a case on why i should not include kita/Rels on my team...


Mainly just that I'm not that confident on them + SL/HTS endorsing this team. It's not like it's the worst team in itself. Just not the best, and endorsed by the two most likely scum :/


Then we had this.

On November 11 2015 08:03 Fidei86 wrote:
Day 2
raynpelikoneet's Nomination (raynpelikoneet, kitaman, Rels, Vivax)

Vote Result

Half the Sky - YES
Xatalos - YES
Artanis[Xp] - NO
raynpelikoneet - YES
ShoCkeyy - YES
Rels - YES
sicklucker - NO
kitaman27 - YES
Vivax - YES

MISSION IS APPROVED

raynpelikoneet, kitaman, Rels and Vivax will be embarking on Mission 2
Mission will be completed in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 11 November 2015.


And as we know that mission failed. One thing to note in Xatalos' explanation to rayn (expand the 4th condensed quote) is that he was very vague (again another example of a vague explanation from Xata when he's mafia) in saying "not the very best/worst" as opposed to explaining to rayn why either of Kita or Rels was or was not mafia.

Him not giving a direct response on the individuals up for discussion here (Kita/Rels) and instead using how sicklucker and I reacted to the team shows he's trying to disassociate from them (or at least giving reads on them since for whatever reason he has to watch himself).

Now I voted for this team myself as you can see - yes - but it was after re-reading Rels' filter and re-considering other things, which I came forward with immediately when I saw the voting results.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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